From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Apr 1 19:07:51 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:07:51 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1131 Message-ID: <200804012008.00039.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1131 is now available, please upgrade. Major changes: - Stop sending the old-format (very large) SSK messages. Other minor changes aimed at avoiding sending huge packets (which frequently cause connectivity problems, excessive resends etc). - Improvements to the stats that drive request the bandwidth liability limiting code. - Add FMS and Publish! to the default bookmarks. - Minor fixes. Release candidate 1 went well, and earned us a slashdot, which the network seems to have survived well, although the same can't be said for our web server! We will try to release another RC on Monday. Please report any bugs you find either to the bug tracker at https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ (if necessary using Tor), or the few remaining working Frost boards, etc, so that we can fix as many bugs as possible before the final 0.7.0. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080401/c317ad9d/attachment.pgp From dbaggett at nsf.gov Tue Apr 1 19:25:34 2008 From: dbaggett at nsf.gov (Douglas Baggett) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:25:34 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] restricting freenet to IPv6 only Message-ID: <1B8238B5-CBD1-4C1E-BCF8-0B90E36097B3@nsf.gov> What would be the easiest way to go about restricting freenet 0.7 to ipv6 only(other than disabling v4 on the network stack)? I'd like to test freenet as an ipv6 only node. thanks! From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Apr 2 11:37:57 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:37:57 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] restricting freenet to IPv6 only In-Reply-To: <1B8238B5-CBD1-4C1E-BCF8-0B90E36097B3@nsf.gov> References: <1B8238B5-CBD1-4C1E-BCF8-0B90E36097B3@nsf.gov> Message-ID: <200804021238.02574.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 01 April 2008 20:25, Douglas Baggett wrote: > What would be the easiest way to go about restricting freenet 0.7 to > ipv6 only(other than disabling v4 on the network stack)? > > I'd like to test freenet as an ipv6 only node. Using iptables/firewall rules to block IPv4 connectivity for the UID Freenet runs as? > > thanks! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From dbaggett at nsf.gov Wed Apr 2 13:04:20 2008 From: dbaggett at nsf.gov (Douglas Baggett) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:04:20 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] Looking for people running Freenet using IPv6 (node references) In-Reply-To: <07FC4D77-29D2-490E-AE84-7E49ED53318E@nsf.gov> References: <1B8238B5-CBD1-4C1E-BCF8-0B90E36097B3@nsf.gov><200804021238.02574.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <07FC4D77-29D2-490E-AE84-7E49ED53318E@nsf.gov> Message-ID: And on that note (lack of IPv6 seednodes) if anybody has a IPv6 enabled version of freenet 0.7 routable on one of the major worldwide academic research networks that are IPv6 enabled and peer (Internet2, GEANT, GLORIAD, etc) I'd be happy to swap node references. On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Douglas Baggett wrote: > Well, that's the "hit it with a club" way :) > > after looking at the .ini file it looks like binding the node and > opennode to my specific v6 address seems to do the trick (although the > lack of IPv6 seeds is going to be an issue). > > thanks! > > -Doug > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 7:37 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 April 2008 20:25, Douglas Baggett wrote: > >> What would be the easiest way to go about restricting freenet 0.7 > to > >> ipv6 only(other than disabling v4 on the network stack)? > >> > >> I'd like to test freenet as an ipv6 only node. > > > > Using iptables/firewall rules to block IPv4 connectivity for the UID > > Freenet > > runs as? > >> > >> thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Paul From hargikas at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 09:08:26 2008 From: hargikas at gmail.com (Charalampos Gkikas) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:08:26 +0300 Subject: [freenet-support] Echo CMS (plugin) Message-ID: Hello All, I am a big newbie in the Freenet, and I am just experimenting with various things, in order to understand how someone can publish easily content on the Freenet. So I found out the Echo Plugin. A step in the right way. But... I tried to write something in Greek in there, and I am getting the following error: Invalid byte 2 of 2-byte UTF-8 sequence. It is probably an encoding error. Maybe you need to created the appropriate headers in order to fully support UTF-8... Best Regards, Harry -- ????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please tell us if you still get downloads progressing quickly > on startup (beyond where they were, check the block count), and then stalling > for long periods afterwards. Please report any other bugs you find so we can > fix them before 0.7.0-final. We will probably do a second release candidate > on Monday. > Freenet 0.7 build 1133 is now available, it fixes a deadlock in 1132, and is also mandatory on Saturday. Please upgrade. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There should be a Browse Freenet icon both on the desktop and on the start menu under "The Free Network Project" or something similar. That should open a copy of firefox which is tweaked for Freenet. If you can't find either, try opening http://127.0.0.1:8888/ - if freenet is running this should open. If that doesn't even work then look in the freenet directory for a file called wrapper.log, and send us it. > > What's procedure for uninstall properly this software for reinstall after?! It depends on how broken it is. > > Thanks, > > Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried to > write something in Greek in there, and I am getting the following error: > Invalid byte 2 of 2-byte UTF-8 sequence. > > It is probably an encoding error. Maybe you need to created the appropriate > headers in order to fully support UTF-8... > > Best Regards, > Harry > > -- > ????? > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080403/4701b6f9/attachment.pgp From andy at twistedindustries.co.uk Sat Apr 5 21:01:35 2008 From: andy at twistedindustries.co.uk (Andy Dixon) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:01:35 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] https and FProxy Message-ID: <658E246C-55C9-4553-B992-253F6EF67D77@twistedindustries.co.uk> Hello, I am running Freenet on a Dedicated Server down in London and accessing it remotely. This way it has a fast connection and at the moment 100gb for caches. Could anyone tell me how to se up freenet so it gets tunneled over https instead of http? Thanks Andy From cyberleo at sdf.lonestar.org Sun Apr 6 04:14:59 2008 From: cyberleo at sdf.lonestar.org (CyberLeo) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:14:59 -0500 Subject: [freenet-support] https and FProxy In-Reply-To: <658E246C-55C9-4553-B992-253F6EF67D77@twistedindustries.co.uk> References: <658E246C-55C9-4553-B992-253F6EF67D77@twistedindustries.co.uk> Message-ID: <47F84E43.7070907@sdf.lonestar.org> Andy Dixon wrote: > I am running Freenet on a Dedicated Server down in London and > accessing it remotely. This way it has a fast connection and at the > moment 100gb for caches. > > Could anyone tell me how to se up freenet so it gets tunneled over > https instead of http? Research a program called 'stunnel'. It supports wrapping any TCP protocol in SSL, with a bunch of features for encryption and authentication, and there are Windows and Posix ports of it. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 6 13:40:05 2008 From: mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk (Mr. Flibble) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:40:05 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] https and FProxy In-Reply-To: <658E246C-55C9-4553-B992-253F6EF67D77@twistedindustries.co.uk> References: <658E246C-55C9-4553-B992-253F6EF67D77@twistedindustries.co.uk> Message-ID: <069101c897eb$bab19c90$0a7b0001@deepspace3> If you mean v 0.7, there seems to be SSL Support built in. If you look at the web config screen, there are various SSL sections, but I get an error when I try and activate this. I'm guessing I have to generate the certs etc myself, but I haven't had time to look into it yet. If you mean 0.5, then you could set up an SSL version of apache on your server and use nph-proxy.cgi to get to it. > -----Original Message----- > From: support-bounces at freenetproject.org > [mailto:support-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Andy Dixon > Sent: 05 April 2008 22:02 > To: support at freenetproject.org > Subject: [freenet-support] https and FProxy > > Hello, > > I am running Freenet on a Dedicated Server down in London and > accessing it remotely. This way it has a fast connection and at the > moment 100gb for caches. > > Could anyone tell me how to se up freenet so it gets tunneled over > https instead of http? > > Thanks > > Andy > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > From tmapj2 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 23:51:38 2008 From: tmapj2 at gmail.com (Grant Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:51:38 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] same old problem Message-ID: <47FAB38A.5010604@gmail.com> Nothing was fixed. When I try to start up freenet I'm still getting the same old message: "cannot use the profile "freenet" because it is in use." Please help. Thanks. From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Apr 10 15:50:53 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:50:53 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1135 and 1136 Message-ID: <200804101650.59620.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1136 is now available. Please upgrade. I forgot to announce 1135; a big part of 1136 is fixing bugs in 1135. Apologies for the recent node crashes... Changes: 1135: - Increase the redundancy on splitfiles from 150% to 200%. Your node only needs to download 100% of this to complete the fetch. The practical effect is that inserts are 33% slower, and hopefully data persistence will be significantly improved. This is partly inspired by Wuala, which uses 500% splitfile redundancy. :) - Reset node locations less often. Hopefully this will reduce location churn and therefore improve data persistence, without causing more keyspace clustering as we saw last year. - Allow an opennet peer 10 minutes after disconnecting for it to reconnect, instead of 5. Many computers take that long to reboot! - Don't forget to disconnect from seednodes once we've finished with them. - Add Identifier's to most messages in FCP that didn't have them. - Hopefully fix changing request priorities causing requests to stall. - Lots of minor bugfixes, some in the web interface, including the Method Not Allowed bug. - Record location changes in loation.log.txt. - One bugfix to location swapping (we were resetting our location if we swapped with a nearby node). - Various internal improvements - comments, synchronization, refactoring etc. 1136: - 1135 would insert splitfiles with wrong metadata, resulting in the node crashing. This is fixed, and we can even download files inserted by 1135. - Prevent old nodes which are unable or unwilling to update from spamming the seednodes forever. - Default to 10% of available disk space in the first time wizard datastore size selection page, if we are running java 1.6. - Minor bugfixes and internal changes (mostly datastore refactoring). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apologies for the recent > node crashes... > Changes: > 1135: > - Increase the redundancy on splitfiles from 150% to 200%. Your node only > needs to download 100% of this to complete the fetch. The practical effect is > that inserts are 33% slower, and hopefully data persistence will be > significantly improved. This is partly inspired by Wuala, which uses 500% > splitfile redundancy. :) > - Reset node locations less often. Hopefully this will reduce location churn > and therefore improve data persistence, without causing more keyspace > clustering as we saw last year. > - Allow an opennet peer 10 minutes after disconnecting for it to reconnect, > instead of 5. Many computers take that long to reboot! > - Don't forget to disconnect from seednodes once we've finished with them. > - Add Identifier's to most messages in FCP that didn't have them. > - Hopefully fix changing request priorities causing requests to stall. > - Lots of minor bugfixes, some in the web interface, including the Method Not > Allowed bug. > - Record location changes in loation.log.txt. > - One bugfix to location swapping (we were resetting our location if we > swapped with a nearby node). > - Various internal improvements - comments, synchronization, refactoring etc. > 1136: > - 1135 would insert splitfiles with wrong metadata, resulting in the node > crashing. This is fixed, and we can even download files inserted by 1135. > - Prevent old nodes which are unable or unwilling to update from spamming the > seednodes forever. > - Default to 10% of available disk space in the first time wizard datastore > size selection page, if we are running java 1.6. > - Minor bugfixes and internal changes (mostly datastore refactoring). > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080410/8eb3074c/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Apr 11 21:07:22 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:07:22 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1138 Message-ID: <200804112207.28365.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1138 is now available. Please upgrade, it will be mandatory on Sunday. Major changes: - Stop trying to contact seednodes after announcement has succeeded. - Make the opennet warning dismissable, but it will come back after a restart. - Some stats fixes that hopefully will help with low bandwidth nodes, and ensure that they will recover if they have used very little bandwidth for a while. - Use all available processors for FEC encoding/decoding, subject to memory and OS limitations. - Record our uptime and calculate what fraction the node has been up for over the last 48 hours. Publish this to other nodes. We will use this to avoid relying on the store of low-uptime nodes once this build has been mandatory for a while. - Various minor fixes, unit tests and refactorings. Thanks to: dbkr j16sdiz luke771 toad wavey -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This build includes various bugfixes and minor features: - Tell the user (a useralert on the fproxy homepage) when a download or upload on the global queue has completed. - Allow the user to hide the NAT warning unless we are sure there is a problem. - Fixes to the sky theme, the bookmark editing code, the stats page, HTML mime type detection, the queue page, the global queue if FCP is disabled and reenabled, the hide-the-opennet-warning button, IP detection when bindTo is set, - Allow the browser to cache static theme data. Actual freesite content still has no-cache headers. - Various minor internal fixes including locking and trivial optimisations, better out of memory handling, more unit tests, and various minor code cleanups. - Various changes to the datastore, including bug fixes, faster (lazy) reconstruction, better handling of free blocks, etc. - Updates to German and French translations. Thanks to all who have contributed to 1140: batosai dbkr j16sdiz NEOatNHNG nextgens toad wavey There is also a new java FCP library (jFCPlib) by Bombe, some work on Thingamablog by dieppe and some work on the KeyExplorer plugin by saces. If you find a bug in Freenet, please report it. Even if you have reported it before, we need to fix as many high priority bugs as possible before 0.7.0. Please use the bug tracker at https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ if possible. The last remaining useful boards on Frost seem to have been spammed out, and I'm not using FMS yet. Thank you for using Freenet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080416/f385e428/attachment.pgp From auto420391 at hushmail.com Wed Apr 16 09:37:46 2008 From: auto420391 at hushmail.com (auto420391 at hushmail.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:37:46 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] vista Message-ID: <20080416093747.2A55115804C@mailserver6.hushmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi. can you use freenet with windows vista thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 3.0 wpwEAQECAAYFAkgFyOsACgkQt1CFonAvQj902wP9FtTkbm82C1JXlDZ/7neYsg4DaF6M BG9jMWpaNJdSopE0fdT19TKAgD7jSpuLoZeK+6Wjf7Zvlm81XR/tBFLQVUnSpcgIQ9nX 5mUrws4rhJYrDTtmdFKgW0ny0pIywHtM6RlbflYtjcR2oP25AfOOynKOE6XAy2v1yZsp KkmDkJE= =vLuq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Click for your daily horoscope, learn about money, love & family. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/Ioyw6h4c4ZAcqnUMhtu7h4XpFIRgEtqid6wnxTqmXmhkcJLMbNHlLf/ From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Apr 18 12:04:10 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:04:10 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] vista In-Reply-To: <20080416093747.2A55115804C@mailserver6.hushmail.com> References: <20080416093747.2A55115804C@mailserver6.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <200804181304.10942.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wednesday 16 April 2008 10:37, you wrote: > hi. > can you use freenet with windows vista > thanks. Probably, however no developer that I know of uses Vista, so support may be a little difficult. Try it and let us know what happens. I have heard reports from users trying it on Vista before, some of them apparently successful. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080418/a112feec/attachment.pgp From aryan.pervaiz at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 13:16:03 2008 From: aryan.pervaiz at gmail.com (aman pervaiz) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:16:03 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] vista In-Reply-To: <200804181304.10942.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <20080416093747.2A55115804C@mailserver6.hushmail.com> <200804181304.10942.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I have been using freenet on vista for ages.It works flawlessly. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 10:37, you wrote: > > hi. > > can you use freenet with windows vista > > thanks. > > Probably, however no developer that I know of uses Vista, so support may be a > little difficult. Try it and let us know what happens. I have heard reports > from users trying it on Vista before, some of them apparently successful. > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Though I know that I know nothing. From bbackde at googlemail.com Thu Apr 24 16:54:06 2008 From: bbackde at googlemail.com (bbackde at googlemail.com) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:54:06 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Node complains: Please forward UDP port xxx Message-ID: Starting with 1142 the node complains that the UDP port is not forwarded. It is actually forwarded, and was forwarded always without problems... Other apps do not complain about their forwarded port. Am I the only one who has this problem? Can I ignore it? From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Apr 24 17:29:46 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:29:46 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Node complains: Please forward UDP port xxx In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804241829.51648.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Thursday 24 April 2008 17:54, bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: > Starting with 1142 the node complains that the UDP port is not forwarded. > It is actually forwarded, and was forwarded always without problems... > > Other apps do not complain about their forwarded port. Other apps are centralised and don't rely so much on it being forwarded. > > Am I the only one who has this problem? Can I ignore it? Freenet will auto-detect whether a port is forwarded, but it is not 100% reliable and it takes at least an hour. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Thursday 24 April 2008 17:54, bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: > > Starting with 1142 the node complains that the UDP port is not forwarded. > > It is actually forwarded, and was forwarded always without problems... > > > > Other apps do not complain about their forwarded port. > > Other apps are centralised and don't rely so much on it being forwarded. > > > > > Am I the only one who has this problem? Can I ignore it? > > Freenet will auto-detect whether a port is forwarded, but it is not 100% > reliable and it takes at least an hour. > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- __________________________________________________ GnuPG key: (0x48DBFA8A) Keyserver: pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Fingerprint: 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A __________________________________________________ From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Apr 24 19:14:46 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:14:46 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Node complains: Please forward UDP port xxx In-Reply-To: References: <200804241829.51648.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200804242015.01606.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Thursday 24 April 2008 18:45, bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: > Ok, that is what the node message says. The point is that I never saw > this message before, and the node now always shows this message, even > when the node runs for >24 hours. So something was changed in the node > code. Possibly. It usually shows it for me. > > I will ignore it. > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Matthew Toseland > wrote: > > On Thursday 24 April 2008 17:54, bbackde at googlemail.com wrote: > > > Starting with 1142 the node complains that the UDP port is not forwarded. > > > It is actually forwarded, and was forwarded always without problems... > > > > > > Other apps do not complain about their forwarded port. > > > > Other apps are centralised and don't rely so much on it being forwarded. > > > > > > > > Am I the only one who has this problem? Can I ignore it? > > > > Freenet will auto-detect whether a port is forwarded, but it is not 100% > > reliable and it takes at least an hour. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support at freenetproject.org > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ > GnuPG key: (0x48DBFA8A) > Keyserver: pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de > Fingerprint: > 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A > __________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You will be able to publish and consume information anonymously, either through your web browser, or through a variety of third party applications. Freenet 0.7 is a ground-up rewrite of Freenet. The key user-facing feature in Freenet 0.7 is the ability to operate Freenet in a "darknet" mode, where your Freenet node will only talk to other Freenet users that you trust. This makes it much more difficult for an adversary to discover that you are using Freenet, let alone what you are doing with it. 0.7 also includes significant improvements to both security and performance. Freenet 0.7 RC2 can be downloaded from: http://freenetproject.org/download.html This release would not have been possible without the help of numerous volunteers, and Matthew Toseland, Freenet's full time developer. Matthew's work is funded through donations via our website (as well as a few larger sponsors from time to time). We ask that anyone who can help us to ensure Matthew's continued employment visit our donations page and make a contribution at: http://freenetproject.org/donate.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080424/b6c812aa/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Apr 24 20:57:54 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:57:54 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1141, 1142, 1143 Message-ID: <200804242157.58579.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1143 was released yesterday, and is mandatory tomorrow. Sorry for the lack of changelogs. Here they are for the last few builds: 1141: - Don't give up so easily when loading plugins. We were having some problems with plugins failing to load. 1142: - Show one-line summaries of useralerts on the homepage, in a single box, rather than showing the full alert. The summary links to the full explanation on the (new) Alerts page. At least one user in usability testing wasn't able to use Freenet because he didn't see the bookmarks for all the useralerts! - Fix long delay enabling opennet in the first-time wizard. - Don't start sending requests until 5 minutes after enabling opennet, not 5 minutes after startup. This is good for new users if they don't complete setup immediately. - Various other web interface improvements. - Bandwidth limiting: rewrite and simplify some code. Hopefully it is more accurate now. - Fix running UP&P and STUN every 5 minutes. - Fix USK at ... sometimes redirecting to a CHK if no trailing slash. - Some optimisations / memory usage reductions. - Some stats fixes, including the infamous off by one in the too-few-peers alerts. - FCP changes: RemovePersistentRequest is now RemoveRequest (the old name works too), and removes non-persistent requests as well as persistent ones (if Global=false). PersistentPutDir indicates what kind of directory upload it is. - Installer: Fix broken plugin downloading, and a bug breaking opening a browser. - There was also work on saces' KeyExplorer plugin, Bombe's jFCPlib and jSite, and dieppe's Thingamablog (with help from nextgens) Credits: batosai dbkr j16sdiz saces toad tommy wavey 1143: - Some improvements to the code that decides whether to accept a request (or start a local one). Freenet now takes into account whether a request is local or not, this should lead to increased bandwidth usage when there are requests queued (it might open up some timing attacks, so it can be disabled; there are other probably easier attacks if you're worried about that though!). - More work on the web interface and useralerts, including a button to remove all notification alerts (download complete, bookmark updated) if there are more than two. - Make maximum memory usage configurable on the config page and in the first-time wizard. - Some wording improvements. - Installer: Tell the user when the process page has finished on Windows (we already do this on linux/mac). - Dieppe did some more work on Thingamablog. Credits: dbkr j16sdiz (mrogers contributed some improved text) nextgens toad wavey -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From jimcook at panix.com Fri Apr 25 06:33:56 2008 From: jimcook at panix.com (Jim Cook) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:33:56 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] Firefox 2 gone after installing Freenet 0.7 Message-ID: <20080425063221.9B70BE4EB@mailbackend.panix.com> I just installed Freenet 0.7, and it seems to have replaced Firefox 2 with Firefox 1. I suspect that, if I reinstall Firefox 2, I may screw up Freenet. Is that so? And if it's so, is there a workaround (other than running Freenet in a virtual machine)? Also, what's up with Google Toolbar? Is that a requirement for running Freenet-tweaked Firefox? Thanks = Jim Cook From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Apr 25 13:24:30 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:24:30 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Firefox 2 gone after installing Freenet 0.7 In-Reply-To: <20080425063221.9B70BE4EB@mailbackend.panix.com> References: <20080425063221.9B70BE4EB@mailbackend.panix.com> Message-ID: <200804251424.36240.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Friday 25 April 2008 07:33, Jim Cook wrote: > I just installed Freenet 0.7, and it seems to have replaced Firefox 2 > with Firefox 1. I suspect that, if I reinstall Firefox 2, I may > screw up Freenet. Have you tried rebooting? Once a firefox window is open, any new attempts to open a firefox window will just copy the first one. > > Is that so? And if it's so, is there a workaround (other than > running Freenet in a virtual machine)? > > Also, what's up with Google Toolbar? 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Maybe peers are experiencing memory issues? > > I have cut my output bandwith in an attempt to mitigate the problem. Can you be a bit more specific? A copy of your statistics page (ideally in advanced mode) for example would be useful. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080425/3e4f89c8/attachment.pgp From level13 at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 15:51:01 2008 From: level13 at gmail.com (Level 13) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:51:01 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] CPU at 100 %, frequent restarts needed Message-ID: <8e767170804250851i2505c735y33deaedb77444451@mail.gmail.com> Some time ago, I had to restart my node once every two weeks or so, because its CPU consumption would grow over time -- and after reaching 90 % or more rendering the computer useless. However, lately these things occur very often. The node starts consuming more and more CPU resources, pushing it to 100 % all together, and this happens at least once every 1-2 days. What's the deal here? Is it due to the latest Java version, or are there other causes? An evil plot to get rid of us who still use version 0.5? :) From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Apr 25 16:35:34 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:35:34 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] CPU at 100 %, frequent restarts needed In-Reply-To: <8e767170804250851i2505c735y33deaedb77444451@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e767170804250851i2505c735y33deaedb77444451@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804251735.39803.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Friday 25 April 2008 16:51, Level 13 wrote: > Some time ago, I had to restart my node once every two weeks or so, > because its CPU consumption would grow over time -- and after reaching > 90 % or more rendering the computer useless. > However, lately these things occur very often. The node starts > consuming more and more CPU resources, pushing it to 100 % all > together, and this happens at least once every 1-2 days. What's the > deal here? Is it due to the latest Java version, or are there other > causes? > An evil plot to get rid of us who still use version 0.5? :) You tell me. We wouldn't do it deliberately! What is the node doing at the time? Do you have any queued requests and/or inserts? Have you tried giving the node more memory? How much is it using now? If it IS a memory problem then it's worrying, vinyl1 also said 1143 seemed to be using more memory... but I don't understand what could have caused that. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Apart from that, we have moved all datastore accesses off the UDP packet receiver thread, so that should prevent some timeouts, made a few minor improvements to the queue page and the useralerts, and limited parallel FEC decodes/encodes to 3 (even on quad core) to avoid running into open files limits. Please upgrade! Thanks. Please report any bugs you find to the bug tracker, or via the relevant FMS boards. Thank you for using Freenet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I currently don't forward any ports through my hardware firewall, and I hesitate to do so without understanding the security implications. I'd appreciate suggestions for further reading re both issues. Thanks again. = Jim Cook From anti_spy at fastmail.fm Mon Apr 28 04:38:14 2008 From: anti_spy at fastmail.fm (Simply Paranoid) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:38:14 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] The site ignores an important FAQ Message-ID: <1209357494.14821.1250184243@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hello fellow paranoids! I've spent ~a good hour on the site trying to find answers for 2 simple yet important questions regarding insecure mode: 1. Can my ISP know what am I downloading/uploading to FreeNet? 2. Can the nodes I download/upload from (Read: NSA in disguise) see what I'm doing? Of course, we assume they don't use correlation attacks or any other ridiculous & unlikely methods. I believe the answer to the second question is "yes until 0.8", though I'm not sure. The first question, however, is essentially unmentioned at all, at least directly*. If both the ISP and connecting nodes can read the content, then I find very little difference between FN and say, Limewire! Anyway it would be nice to see this info on the site in order to compare between FreeNet and similar projects like I2P. Thanks and keep it up :) *http://archives.freenetproject.org/message/20080407.160132.8fa35bc2.en.html touches the issue vaguely. -- Simply Paranoid anti_spy at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web From batosai at batosai.net Mon Apr 28 12:04:54 2008 From: batosai at batosai.net (Julien Cornuwel) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:04:54 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] The site ignores an important FAQ In-Reply-To: <1209357494.14821.1250184243@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1209357494.14821.1250184243@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4815BD66.2040203@batosai.net> Simply Paranoid a ?crit : > Hello fellow paranoids! Hi, > I've spent ~a good hour on the site trying to find answers for 2 simple > yet important questions regarding insecure mode: > 1. Can my ISP know what am I downloading/uploading to FreeNet? No, he can't. This is clearly mentionned in the French documentation. Maybe the official site should clear that point too. > 2. Can the nodes I download/upload from (Read: NSA in disguise) see what > I'm doing? > Of course, we assume they don't use correlation attacks or any other > ridiculous & unlikely methods. IF we assume they don't use sophisticated attacks, they can't either. But I'm not sure it's a good idea to assume they don't try... The Darknet connection mode is here to avoid that particular risk. > I believe the answer to the second question is "yes until 0.8", though > I'm not sure. The first question, however, is essentially unmentioned at > all, at least directly*. If both the ISP and connecting nodes can read > the content, then I find very little difference between FN and say, > Limewire! And that wouldn't have been worth the years of work ;) > Anyway it would be nice to see this info on the site in order to compare > between FreeNet and similar projects like I2P. I second that. 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However, although I've > read the FAQ and googled some, I'm not clear what sorts of attacks > are possible, other than knowing which sites I've visited. Lots. Read the wiki, start with the security page: http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetZeroPointSevenSecurity > > Freenet also reminds me to forward UDP ports XXXXX and XXXX because > I'm behind a NAT, and so other nodes behind symmetrical NATs can't > connect to my node. However, Freenet seems to be working OK in that > I'm connected to ca. 13 nodes. I currently don't forward any ports > through my hardware firewall, and I hesitate to do so without > understanding the security implications. The result of forwarding the UDP ports is that Freenet can accept incoming connections from nodes which it isn't already sending a packet to. This is necessary for: - Connecting to any node on a dynamic IP address. (You may still be able to connect, but only if the node manages to connect to one of its other peers and ARKs are working). - Connecting to any node behind a symmetric firewall/NAT. - Being a seednode. > > I'd appreciate suggestions for further reading re both issues. > > Thanks again. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080428/d04f09d6/attachment.pgp From level13 at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 18:04:42 2008 From: level13 at gmail.com (Level 13) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:04:42 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] CPU at 100 %, frequent restarts needed Message-ID: <8e767170804281104w649a63e2pe773fddbd6cee03@mail.gmail.com> > You tell me. We wouldn't do it deliberately! I know, I was merely joking. :) > What is the node doing at the time? Do you have any queued > requests and/or > inserts? Have you tried giving the node more memory? How much is it using > now? > > If it IS a memory problem then it's worrying, vinyl1 also said > 1143 seemed to > be using more memory... but I don't understand what could have > caused that. I don't remember if the node was doing anything special at such times. I haven't had much time lately to use it, currently there are 4 files in Fuqid's download queue, so that was about it. As for the memory - I haven't changed any settings about memory. The "Memory Allocation" (in Environment section of web interface) says: Maximum memory the JVM will allocate 130.112 KiB Memory currently allocated by the JVM 130.112 KiB Memory in use 122.215.232 Bytes Estimated memory used by logger None Unused allocated memory 11.017.328 Bytes The computer has 1 GB of RAM. Should I increase the amount of memory to Freenet node? As a side note, Load sometimes gets to values larger than 100 %, but that's usually not a precursor to 100 % CPU, though. From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Mon Apr 28 18:09:40 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:09:40 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] The site ignores an important FAQ In-Reply-To: <1209357494.14821.1250184243@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1209357494.14821.1250184243@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <200804281909.40452.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Monday 28 April 2008 05:38, Simply Paranoid wrote: > Hello fellow paranoids! > > I've spent ~a good hour on the site trying to find answers for 2 simple > yet important questions regarding insecure mode: > 1. Can my ISP know what am I downloading/uploading to FreeNet? Not easily. Your ISP can for example MITM your downloading Freenet in the first place, and replace it with a rootkit. :) Or slightly more subtle, replace your seednodes.fref with a bunch of evil nodes he controls. If you have a trust path to nextgens' SSL cert (with which the installer is signed), or if you build from source (and manually inspect it!), you are a bit safer, but you still have the seednodes replacement threat. One solution to that is to only connect to your friends (but you'd have to exchange noderefs out of band, or encrypted with keys which have been verified out of band e.g. by checking fingerprints over the phone). Note that your ISP can do this with any executable you download from a non-SSL site, e.g. linux graphics drivers. > 2. Can the nodes I download/upload from (Read: NSA in disguise) see what > I'm doing? > Of course, we assume they don't use correlation attacks or any other > ridiculous & unlikely methods. If they don't attack you they can't see what you're doing. That's kinda by definition... :) Unfortunately correlation attacks are far from ridiculous and unlikely. They are feasible for a sufficiently motivated and resourced attacker. They are easier for big files or long-lived Frost identities. Another class of attack is where the attacker is mobile, able to connect to a small subset of the network at any one time. If Mallory can identify which blocks belong to a specific requestor, he can gradually move towards the requestor. > > I believe the answer to the second question is "yes until 0.8", though > I'm not sure. The first question, however, is essentially unmentioned at > all, at least directly*. If both the ISP and connecting nodes can read > the content, then I find very little difference between FN and say, > Limewire! Hopefully 0.8 will improve significantly on request security. However, it was just as bad (give or take a percentage) in 0.5. And 0.7 has darknet, which opens up new options to significantly improve security, as well as network survivability. > > Anyway it would be nice to see this info on the site in order to compare > between FreeNet and similar projects like I2P. > Thanks and keep it up :) You should read the wiki: http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetZeroPointSevenSecurity > > *http://archives.freenetproject.org/message/20080407.160132.8fa35bc2.en.html > touches the issue vaguely. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In other words, my node seems to be working. I haven't seen anything (in the security links that you've posted, or elsewhere) about gaining admin access to other nodes via Freenet. I can't imagine that y'all haven't considered this in coding Freenet. So I'm being unreasonably paranoid, right? Of course, there's always the risk of downloading malware (or getting it from my ISP =-O). Yesterday, I also had a node up for ca. 12 hours on Ubuntu 7.10 in VMware Player. Before I trashed it and went to sleep, it was connected to ca. 15 nodes, and seemed happy. However, although I added this node and my Win NT node to each other as trusted peers, they never connected. Is that a consequence of running in promiscuous mode? How do I tell them to connect? I have a relatively underutilized Win SBS 2003 server, and I'm thinking of setting up a node in Ubuntu/VMware via a dedicated physical NIC. And I'm thinking of running in nonpersistent mode, so that the node and all traces of its activity are lost when I shut it down. Would that be problematic for Freenet, if the node were up for at least a few weeks per instance? Also, I'd appreciate guidance re optimal CPU, memory, storage and bandwidth settings. The server has two 3.6 GHz Xeons and 4 Gb RAM, and I could spare 100 Gb RAID 10 storage and maybe 50 KiB/sec output bandwidth. = Jim Cook From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Apr 29 10:18:06 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:18:06 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] update and more questions In-Reply-To: <20080429024410.05817108C3@mailbackend.panix.com> References: <20080429024410.05817108C3@mailbackend.panix.com> Message-ID: <200804291118.14796.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 29 April 2008 03:44, Jim Cook wrote: > Thank you again, Matthew (and Volodya) for your patience with my > naive questions. Regarding the Firefox issue, I've found a Win BAT > file that > facilitates running multiple instances with different profiles. Running multiple instances with different profiles is trivial, the problem is that if you don't want unpleasant surprises you have to change the link the user normally launches FF from to include -no-remote. Which is not something we really want to do... > > I've had a node up on a Win NT box for ca. 24 hours in promiscuous > mode. It's connected to ca. 20 nodes, and is slow but > acceptably-responsive. When I'm not browsing, input and output rates > are 16.1 KiB/sec and 18.6 KiB/sec respectively. Although output > tends to mirror input, there are frequent output spikes that seem to > originate from my node. In other words, my node seems to be working. > > I haven't seen anything (in the security links that you've posted, or > elsewhere) about gaining admin access to other nodes via Freenet. I > can't imagine that y'all haven't considered this in coding > Freenet. So I'm being unreasonably paranoid, right? Of course, > there's always the risk of downloading malware (or getting it from my ISP =-O). We may have exploitable bugs, but on that level, I doubt it. Java isn't subject to buffer overflows or heap corruption. > > Yesterday, I also had a node up for ca. 12 hours on Ubuntu 7.10 in > VMware Player. Before I trashed it and went to sleep, it was > connected to ca. 15 nodes, and seemed happy. However, although I > added this node and my Win NT node to each other as trusted peers, > they never connected. Is that a consequence of running in > promiscuous mode? How do I tell them to connect? They're on the same LAN. There are options you need to set to make that work. > > I have a relatively underutilized Win SBS 2003 server, and I'm > thinking of setting up a node in Ubuntu/VMware via a dedicated > physical NIC. And I'm thinking of running in nonpersistent mode, so > that the node and all traces of its activity are lost when I shut it > down. Would that be problematic for Freenet, if the node were up for > at least a few weeks per instance? Not if it was online for a reasonable time, although obviously it would be better for the network if it was just up. > > Also, I'd appreciate guidance re optimal CPU, memory, storage and > bandwidth settings. The server has two 3.6 GHz Xeons and 4 Gb RAM, > and I could spare 100 Gb RAID 10 storage and maybe 50 KiB/sec output bandwidth. Sounds nice. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For now, the only solution is to stop the node each time I want to play. Not a good thing for the network. I can try to reduce Freenet's bandwith even more, but I don't think it will help much. Any thoughts ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080429/8039b03f/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Apr 29 13:09:03 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:09:03 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet's impact on online gaming In-Reply-To: <4816FEC2.4020008@batosai.net> References: <4816FEC2.4020008@batosai.net> Message-ID: <200804291409.09214.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 29 April 2008 11:56, Julien Cornuwel wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sure a lot of users are interested about that. I've got 128KB/s > upload and Freenet limited to 40. Freenet runs on a dedicated computer > so resources consumption is not an issue. For normal operations, I've > got no problems. But when it comes to online gaming, weird things happen : 1 megabit upload? > > Other players see my ping as normal (a bit high but nothing I should > worry about) but I've got lags and sometimes, I completely loose the > connection. The game freezes, other players yell at me, I stop Freenet > and everything's back to normal. :| This would be easier if we had a rabbit icon. > > For now, the only solution is to stop the node each time I want to play. > Not a good thing for the network. I can try to reduce Freenet's bandwith > even more, but I don't think it will help much. > > Any thoughts ? The current bandwidth limiting code is not completely accurate. It only throttles data packets: not resends, not normal messages. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yep. 14 down, 1 up. >> Other players see my ping as normal (a bit high but nothing I should >> worry about) but I've got lags and sometimes, I completely loose the >> connection. The game freezes, other players yell at me, I stop Freenet >> and everything's back to normal. > > :| > > This would be easier if we had a rabbit icon. Not for me (the node is on another box), but maybe for others. >> For now, the only solution is to stop the node each time I want to play. >> Not a good thing for the network. I can try to reduce Freenet's bandwith >> even more, but I don't think it will help much. >> >> Any thoughts ? > > The current bandwidth limiting code is not completely accurate. It only > throttles data packets: not resends, not normal messages. And you think it could create such long spikes ? Last time I forgot to stop it, my account had been silent for almost a minute until I stop the node... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For normal operations, I've > >> got no problems. But when it comes to online gaming, weird things happen : > > > > 1 megabit upload? > > Yep. 14 down, 1 up. What's the fastest download speed you've seen? That's a seriously asymmetric connection... > > >> Other players see my ping as normal (a bit high but nothing I should > >> worry about) but I've got lags and sometimes, I completely loose the > >> connection. The game freezes, other players yell at me, I stop Freenet > >> and everything's back to normal. > > > > :| > > > > This would be easier if we had a rabbit icon. > > Not for me (the node is on another box), but maybe for others. Sure, again I'm optimising the common case. :) > > >> For now, the only solution is to stop the node each time I want to play. > >> Not a good thing for the network. I can try to reduce Freenet's bandwith > >> even more, but I don't think it will help much. > >> > >> Any thoughts ? > > > > The current bandwidth limiting code is not completely accurate. It only > > throttles data packets: not resends, not normal messages. > > And you think it could create such long spikes ? Last time I forgot to > stop it, my account had been silent for almost a minute until I stop the > node... Hmmm, one minute is over the top, I accept that ... long lived spikes can be caused by resending a lot of data to a peer (usually opennet) which has serious MTU problems... I dunno what else... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Don't give them any help unless they get *really* stuck. Report their complaints, and anywhere where they got stuck: these are bugs, but it's probably best to report them here. The last lot of usability testing I did threw up a couple of biggish bugs: the user couldn't see the bookmarks because of all the useralerts, so didn't know what to do with Freenet; and plugin downloads were taking ages during install. Both are fixed now. After 0.7.0, we will move towards 0.7.1. Thanks to Google, we have a breathing space for 6 months, and we intend to use this to get more users by making Freenet faster, easier to use, and more secure. In roughly that order: most of the ease-of-use low-hanging-fruit has been dealt with for 0.7.0, which means performance is the main thing. Security is important but some of the big changes we need to do will take considerable time so should be postponed for 0.8.0. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regarding the Firefox issue, I've found a Win BAT > > file that > > facilitates running multiple instances with different profiles. > >Running multiple instances with different profiles is trivial, the problem is >that if you don't want unpleasant surprises you have to change the link the >user normally launches FF from to include -no-remote. Which is not something >we really want to do... In retrospect, it's trivial. And I get why you've included a freenet Firefox profile and made it difficult to edit. However, given the default "Don't ask at startup" setting in Firefox's profile manager, and the fact that I'd never run multiple profiles, I was blindsided, and thought that Freenet had trashed my Firefox setup. Now I know to create Firefox shortcuts for my normal and freenet profiles with targets of the form "" -P -no-remote. What's the downside of doing that during Freenet installation? Or, if that's hard to implement, it'd be great to include an explanation of how to do that in the readme or FAQ. > > I've had a node up on a Win NT box for ca. 24 hours in promiscuous > > mode. It's connected to ca. 20 nodes, and is slow but > > acceptably-responsive. When I'm not browsing, input and output rates > > are 16.1 KiB/sec and 18.6 KiB/sec respectively. Although output > > tends to mirror input, there are frequent output spikes that seem to > > originate from my node. In other words, my node seems to be working. > > > > I haven't seen anything (in the security links that you've posted, or > > elsewhere) about gaining admin access to other nodes via Freenet. I > > can't imagine that y'all haven't considered this in coding > > Freenet. So I'm being unreasonably paranoid, right? Of course, > > there's always the risk of downloading malware (or getting it from my ISP >=-O). > >We may have exploitable bugs, but on that level, I doubt it. Java isn't >subject to buffer overflows or heap corruption. That's very good to know. Even so, I'm still nervous about running Freenet on a machine that I use for work. And that's why I'm planning to run it in a virtual machine in nonpersistent mode. > > Yesterday, I also had a node up for ca. 12 hours on Ubuntu 7.10 in > > VMware Player. Before I trashed it and went to sleep, it was > > connected to ca. 15 nodes, and seemed happy. However, although I > > added this node and my Win NT node to each other as trusted peers, > > they never connected. Is that a consequence of running in > > promiscuous mode? How do I tell them to connect? > >They're on the same LAN. There are options you need to set to make that work. OK, I get that (and from Volodya's reply). It was just an experiment to learn adding friends. I'm about ready to start enrolling real friends. > > I have a relatively underutilized Win SBS 2003 server, and I'm > > thinking of setting up a node in Ubuntu/VMware via a dedicated > > physical NIC. And I'm thinking of running in nonpersistent mode, so > > that the node and all traces of its activity are lost when I shut it > > down. Would that be problematic for Freenet, if the node were up for > > at least a few weeks per instance? > >Not if it was online for a reasonable time, although obviously it would be >better for the network if it was just up. Would it be better for the network if I paused it as a snapshot whenever I needed to reboot? I don't reboot often, just as part of installing updates or when messing with hardware. > > Also, I'd appreciate guidance re optimal CPU, memory, storage and > > bandwidth settings. The server has two 3.6 GHz Xeons and 4 Gb RAM, > > and I could spare 100 Gb RAID 10 storage and maybe 50 KiB/sec output >bandwidth. > >Sounds nice. It's my SQL slave :-) >* Unknown Key >* 0xE43DA450 = Jim Cook From vinyl1 at earthlink.net Wed Apr 30 01:47:56 2008 From: vinyl1 at earthlink.net (vinyl1) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:47:56 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] Countdown to 0.7.0 References: <200804292124.10612.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <003001c8aa64$37686860$7f01a8c0@oldfaithful> I think the lack of a reliable messaging system is really going to impact interest in Freenet. Unfortunately, FMS is not easily usable by ordinary end users, and it is not packaged with the core software. I don't know what to do about this problem, other than figure out some way to get Frost working again. This is really too bad, because the core functionality of Freenet seems to be improving. All the popular sites load very quickly, it is almost getting to be like the regular internet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Toseland" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: [freenet-support] Countdown to 0.7.0 From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Apr 30 11:36:06 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:36:06 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Countdown to 0.7.0 In-Reply-To: <003001c8aa64$37686860$7f01a8c0@oldfaithful> References: <200804292124.10612.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <003001c8aa64$37686860$7f01a8c0@oldfaithful> Message-ID: <200804301236.10666.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wednesday 30 April 2008 02:47, vinyl1 wrote: > I think the lack of a reliable messaging system is really going to impact > interest in Freenet. Unfortunately, FMS is not easily usable by ordinary > end users, and it is not packaged with the core software. Nothing we can do. FMS and Frost are separate projects. We're not bundling Frost because it doesn't work, and we're not bunding FMS for other reasons. And we don't want to delay the release while waiting for third party devs who may or may not get their act together. > > I don't know what to do about this problem, other than figure out some way > to get Frost working again. This is really too bad, because the core > functionality of Freenet seems to be improving. All the popular sites load > very quickly, it is almost getting to be like the regular internet. Cool. High bandwidth? High uptime? What about the older/less popular sites? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080430/6c0032b0/attachment.pgp From batosai at batosai.net Wed Apr 30 12:40:53 2008 From: batosai at batosai.net (Julien Cornuwel) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:40:53 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet's impact on online gaming In-Reply-To: <200804291835.11573.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <4816FEC2.4020008@batosai.net> <200804291409.09214.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <4817406A.6030900@batosai.net> <200804291835.11573.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <481868D5.6020105@batosai.net> Matthew Toseland a ?crit : >>> 1 megabit upload? >> Yep. 14 down, 1 up. > > What's the fastest download speed you've seen? That's a seriously asymmetric > connection... It's quite common in France. At least in big cities. On Freenet, I never saw more than 65-70 KB/s. On the web, the best I saw was downloading and ISO from my ISP mirror, it was 1.5MB/s. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 252 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080430/22113ec9/attachment.pgp From bbackde at googlemail.com Wed Apr 30 13:11:07 2008 From: bbackde at googlemail.com (bbackde at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:11:07 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Countdown to 0.7.0 In-Reply-To: <200804301236.10666.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <200804292124.10612.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <003001c8aa64$37686860$7f01a8c0@oldfaithful> <200804301236.10666.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 30 April 2008 02:47, vinyl1 wrote: > > I think the lack of a reliable messaging system is really going to impact > > interest in Freenet. Unfortunately, FMS is not easily usable by ordinary > > end users, and it is not packaged with the core software. > > Nothing we can do. FMS and Frost are separate projects. We're not bundling > Frost because it doesn't work, and we're not bunding FMS for other reasons. > And we don't want to delay the release while waiting for third party devs who > may or may not get their act together. Currently I am very busy with my real life. The question to toad could be: what could YOU do to support reliable messaging systems? I am not sure if fms using ULPRs is the final solution for freenet messaging... The problem started when the spammer used KSK redirects to invalid or missing data. What was the reason not to add a KSK like key type that works like on 0.5? Maximum size 32K, must be inserted in one piece. Wouldn't this help? I think so. > > > > > I don't know what to do about this problem, other than figure out some way > > to get Frost working again. This is really too bad, because the core > > functionality of Freenet seems to be improving. All the popular sites load > > very quickly, it is almost getting to be like the regular internet. > > Cool. High bandwidth? High uptime? What about the older/less popular sites? > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- __________________________________________________ GnuPG key: (0x48DBFA8A) Keyserver: pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Fingerprint: 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A __________________________________________________ From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Apr 30 14:26:10 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:26:10 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Mac using volunteers needed! Message-ID: <200804301526.19230.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Could anyone who has access to a MacOS/X box please contact us? We need to test the new startup script for the installer, so that when we release 0.7.0, it will work out of the box even with a reboot (like it does on windows). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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FMS and Frost are separate projects. We're not bundling > > Frost because it doesn't work, and we're not bunding FMS for other reasons. > > And we don't want to delay the release while waiting for third party devs who > > may or may not get their act together. > > Currently I am very busy with my real life. > > The question to toad could be: what could YOU do to support reliable > messaging systems? > I am not sure if fms using ULPRs is the final solution for freenet messaging... > > The problem started when the spammer used KSK redirects to invalid or > missing data. > What was the reason not to add a KSK like key type that works like on 0.5? > Maximum size 32K, must be inserted in one piece. Wouldn't this help? I think so. Why would it help? > > > > I don't know what to do about this problem, other than figure out some way > > > to get Frost working again. This is really too bad, because the core > > > functionality of Freenet seems to be improving. All the popular sites load > > > very quickly, it is almost getting to be like the regular internet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080430/d02f481d/attachment.pgp From ebaschiera at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 15:39:43 2008 From: ebaschiera at gmail.com (Ermanno Baschiera) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:39:43 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] towards Freenet 0.7.0 Message-ID: Hi, In my opinion a good bandwidth control system should be necessary. I read that at the moment it's not very accurate. I think that all people with low bandwidth can benefit from an accurate bandwidth control. I mean... think about new comers who want to give a try running Freenet... They keep the node up for some days... their MSN starts to disconnect every 5 minutes, surfing becomes slow and they often have to reload pages... even if they set their node's output bandwidth to a resonable value. I'm afraid they at last could give up and unistall freenet. I had those problems, but with the last 3-4 builds, it happens much less often, and I can't exclude that it could be my isp's fault (maybe throttling?) or something else, not Freenet. Anyway, an accurate bandwidth control cannot hurt. -Ermanno Baschiera From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Apr 30 17:11:35 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:11:35 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] update and more questions In-Reply-To: <20080429232710.522E011C76@mailbackend.panix.com> References: <20080429024410.05817108C3@mailbackend.panix.com> <200804291118.14796.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <20080429232710.522E011C76@mailbackend.panix.com> Message-ID: <200804301811.40912.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wednesday 30 April 2008 00:27, Jim Cook wrote: > At 06:18 AM 4/29/2008, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > >* PGP Signed by an unknown key > > > >On Tuesday 29 April 2008 03:44, Jim Cook wrote: > > > Thank you again, Matthew (and Volodya) for your patience with my > > > naive questions. Regarding the Firefox issue, I've found a Win BAT > > > file that > > > facilitates running multiple instances with different profiles. > > > >Running multiple instances with different profiles is trivial, the problem is > >that if you don't want unpleasant surprises you have to change the link the > >user normally launches FF from to include -no-remote. Which is not something > >we really want to do... > > In retrospect, it's trivial. And I get why you've included a freenet > Firefox profile and made it difficult to edit. You mean in that we disable the config related menu items? > However, given the > default "Don't ask at startup" setting in Firefox's profile manager, > and the fact that I'd never run multiple profiles, I was blindsided, > and thought that Freenet had trashed my Firefox setup. Yeah, Firefox is a problem. Not using it is a worse problem. Hopefully we can find a better solution... > Now I know to > create Firefox shortcuts for my normal and freenet profiles with > targets of the form "" -P > -no-remote. What's the downside of doing that during Freenet > installation? Or, if that's hard to implement, it'd be great to > include an explanation of how to do that in the readme or FAQ. It is difficult to implement. It is also unnecessary if you do what you're told! We open a browser window with a page explaining that it's a really bad idea to close this page before closing the browser running Freenet ... if you close it anyway, Bad Things happen - namely your firefox profile default gets reset. > > > > I've had a node up on a Win NT box for ca. 24 hours in promiscuous > > > mode. It's connected to ca. 20 nodes, and is slow but > > > acceptably-responsive. When I'm not browsing, input and output rates > > > are 16.1 KiB/sec and 18.6 KiB/sec respectively. Although output > > > tends to mirror input, there are frequent output spikes that seem to > > > originate from my node. In other words, my node seems to be working. > > > > > > I haven't seen anything (in the security links that you've posted, or > > > elsewhere) about gaining admin access to other nodes via Freenet. I > > > can't imagine that y'all haven't considered this in coding > > > Freenet. So I'm being unreasonably paranoid, right? Of course, > > > there's always the risk of downloading malware (or getting it from my ISP > >=-O). > > > >We may have exploitable bugs, but on that level, I doubt it. Java isn't > >subject to buffer overflows or heap corruption. > > That's very good to know. Even so, I'm still nervous about running > Freenet on a machine that I use for work. And that's why I'm > planning to run it in a virtual machine in nonpersistent mode. > > > > Yesterday, I also had a node up for ca. 12 hours on Ubuntu 7.10 in > > > VMware Player. Before I trashed it and went to sleep, it was > > > connected to ca. 15 nodes, and seemed happy. However, although I > > > added this node and my Win NT node to each other as trusted peers, > > > they never connected. Is that a consequence of running in > > > promiscuous mode? How do I tell them to connect? > > > >They're on the same LAN. There are options you need to set to make that work. > > OK, I get that (and from Volodya's reply). It was just an experiment > to learn adding friends. I'm about ready to start enrolling real friends. > > > > I have a relatively underutilized Win SBS 2003 server, and I'm > > > thinking of setting up a node in Ubuntu/VMware via a dedicated > > > physical NIC. And I'm thinking of running in nonpersistent mode, so > > > that the node and all traces of its activity are lost when I shut it > > > down. Would that be problematic for Freenet, if the node were up for > > > at least a few weeks per instance? > > > >Not if it was online for a reasonable time, although obviously it would be > >better for the network if it was just up. > > Would it be better for the network if I paused it as a snapshot > whenever I needed to reboot? I don't reboot often, just as part of > installing updates or when messing with hardware. Why not just restart it each time? The only reason to recreate it on each startup is in case the datastore contains something incriminating... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They keep the node up for some days... their MSN > starts to disconnect every 5 minutes, surfing becomes slow and they > often have to reload pages... even if they set their node's output > bandwidth to a resonable value. I'm afraid they at last could give up > and unistall freenet. > I had those problems, but with the last 3-4 builds, it happens much > less often, and I can't exclude that it could be my isp's fault (maybe > throttling?) or something else, not Freenet. Anyway, an accurate > bandwidth control cannot hurt. I'm surprised that it would impact MSN messenger... What's your bandwidth limit? What is your node's output limit set to? A *really* accurate bandwidth limit will not be implemented until after 0.7.0. But you have a point, we need one. > > -Ermanno Baschiera -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Today I got an upgrade on my line, and now it's 20KB/s on a 384Kbit/s uplink. -Ermanno Baschiera From bishonennixa at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 00:00:44 2008 From: bishonennixa at gmail.com (Ian Roan) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:00:44 -0500 Subject: [freenet-support] Cannot detect location of firefox Message-ID: <641a01790804271700r192207e4s8797a8611eba108d@mail.gmail.com> How do i fix this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080427/b229254b/attachment.htm