[freenet-dev] Help!!!!!

Wed Mar 26 02:11:56 UTC 2008

* David Sowder (Zothar) <freenet-devl at david.sowder.com> [2008-03-25 19:13:13]:

> On approach, at least to avoid the stats page not returning after 
> starting the loading of 10 freesites on separate tabs, might be to 
> separate the node control/stats parts of FProxy from the key fetching 
> parts by placing one of the two on a separate TCP port.

/me grins about top-posting once again

I've investigated that and the problem with that solution is that many
misconfigured firewalls allow traffic from 127.0.0.1/32 but not
127.0.0.0/8 as they are supposed to ...

> 
> Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > Okay, having investigated this, I'm fairly confident of the current theory:
> > - If a copy of Firefox is already running with the default profile, and we 
> > launch a copy with our profile (-no-remote -P <profile name>), everything 
> > works fine (as long as our copy exits before the default one does).
> > - The default Firefox obviously doesn't have the -no-remote command line 
> > option. We do.
> > - If the default profile is NOT running when we load our copy of firefox with 
> > our custom profile, when the link to firefox is clicked on, it coalesces with 
> > our copy and opens a new window using our profile and not the default 
> > profile. Therefore, it appears that the user's firefox has been damaged and 
> > we've deleted all their bookmarks etc etc.
> >
> > You can replicate this easily enough: create a custom theme (e.g. by 
> > installing freenet), exit all copies of firefox, launch one 
> > with "firefox -no-remote -P <profile name>", then launch a second copy with 
> > just "firefox". The second will assume it is supposed to be an extra window 
> > for the first, and will use the custom profile, not the default profile. If 
> > however you exit the custom profile first, the second instance will use the 
> > default profile.
> >
> > As far as I can see, we have three options:
> > 1. Don't ship a custom firefox theme. Ask users to tweak their firefox theme 
> > for better freenet performance, knowing full well that it is a security risk 
> > and a waste of bandwidth when accessing the regular web. Anyway, nobody will 
> > even if we DO ask them to: people are lazy, and it involves somewhat arcane 
> > config setting.
> > 2. Ship a copy of Portable Firefox (~ 6MB), or some other self contained 
> > browser. Find some way to auto-update it.
> > 3. Give up and hope people will realise that opening 10 freesites in separate 
> > tabs and then trying to get to the stats page isn't a good idea. No, they 
> > won't realise this, they'll assume Freenet is broken - our own regular users 
> > do this on the IRC channel.
> >
> > Anyone got any better ideas?
> >
> > On Tuesday 25 March 2008 19:41, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >   
> >> Sorry, I'm the idiot who decided to create a firefox profile. I was simply 
> >> trying to avoid some major performance issues we have because the default 
> >> settings are not good for Freenet, and asking users to change them globally 
> >> also sucks.
> >>
> >> Freenet has not destroyed any data, it has simply created a second profile. 
> >>     
> > It 
> >   
> >> launches it with -no-remote so it shouldn't be remembered by firefox, but 
> >> somehow in your instance it was ... what you have to do is open a command 
> >> line (start, run, type cmd), cd to the directory firefox is installed in, 
> >> e.g.:
> >> cd c:\program files\mozilla firefox
> >> Then:
> >> firefox -ProfileManager
> >>
> >> You will then be presented with a list of installed profiles, including one 
> >> called default and one called freenet. Click on the one called default and 
> >> then click on the button to start firefox using that profile.
> >>
> >> Sorry.
> >>
> >> Matthew Toseland,
> >> Chief Developer for Freenet on behalf of Freenet Project Incorporated.
> >>
> >> PS support at freenetproject.org is usually the right place for these sorts of 
> >> issues.
> >>
> >> To CC's: WTF are we going to do about this?
> >>
> >> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 19:13, Brian Walsh wrote:
> >>     
> >>> I recently decided to try Freenet. Just the act of installing it has
> >>> destroyed my internet connectivity. Freenet took over Firefox, wiping out
> >>> all of my bookmarks and extensions. I uninstalled Freenet and Firefox will
> >>> not start. I have reinstalled Firefox and it still will not start. I
> >>> desperatly need Firefox to work on my system. You must have seen this
> >>> before, do you know how to fix it? Or has Freenet so thoroughly hosed me
> >>> that I need to reinstall my system. Please help if you can, I installed
> >>> Freenet in good faith and didn't expect it to so badly harm me.
> >>>       
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