[freenet-dev] Fwd: [freenet-support] Usability?testing?on?Windows XP

[Florent Daignière]

* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-04 12:34:58]:

> On Wednesday 04 June 2008 05:42, Florent Daignière wrote:
> > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-03 17:24:48]:
> > 
> > > On Monday 02 June 2008 15:13, Florent Daignière wrote:
> > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02 15:03:37]:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Monday 02 June 2008 14:47, Florent Daignière wrote:
> > > > > > * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2008-06-02 
> 14:15:02]:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Okay, what issues do we have here?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1. The processes page takes longer than the copying files page. In 
> > > fact, 
> > > > > most 
> > > > > > > of the time of the installer is occupied by the processes page.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > IMHO the solution to this is to bundle everything which is 
> essential 
> > > with 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > base installer. Then the processes page will take much less time. 
> Also 
> > > we 
> > > > > > > won't need a separate bundle-installer, so it will be easier to 
> use in 
> > > > > places 
> > > > > > > where the Freenet website is blocked. The downside is the 
> installer 
> > > will 
> > > > > be 
> > > > > > > significantly bigger.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm not convinced about that
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why? It won't be huge, if we don't bundle any unnecessary Huge Stuff 
> (see 
> > > > > below). And it's not small now.
> > > > 
> > > > That means we will have to generate new installers on a regular basis...
> > > > I don't like that :p
> > > 
> > > Is there any good reason for this dislike?
> > 
> > Downloading stuffs during the install process actually tests the user's
> > connectivity; If we don't do that we will end up with more support
> > requests from users having non-freenet-related issues.
> > 
> > Moreover, if we want the "trust-chain" in between us and the newbies to
> > be established, we HAVE TO distribute the installer from emu and not
> > from mirrors... meaning that it has to be as small as possible if we
> > intend to stand a slashdoting.
> > 
> > Arguably we don't distribute the installer ourselves yet... but I was in
> > the process of changing that.
> > 
> Well then we'll have to make it a lot smaller than even 3.6MB: we'd want some 
> sort of minimal shell that downloads a hash from emu and then fetches the 
> rest from a mirror.

I have been working on that; it's 1.5MB now...
I am not sure I can strip it down much more without getting rid of
functionalities or language files.
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