From nextgens at freenetproject.org Wed Jun 21 15:55:41 2006 From: nextgens at freenetproject.org (nextgens at freenetproject.org) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Darknet-tools] Testing Message-ID: <20060621155541.D5D089C90A@emu.freenetproject.org> testing the new mailing list From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Jun 21 16:25:51 2006 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:25:51 +0100 Subject: [Darknet-tools] New mailing list: darknet-tools Message-ID: <20060621162550.GA6359@amphibian.dyndns.org> We have created a new mailing list, the darknet-tools list. This is for discussion of tools for reference exchange. Primarily by this I mean: - Plugins for IRC clients, IM clients, etc to make it easy to exchange node references - generally with people you already know. - Functionality needed by the node to support such plugins. - Standards for such plugins (e.g. there may be 10 different IRC plugins). - Anything else related to expanding the darknet. I have two volunteers to write IRC plugins. What would be really nice would be some plugins for instant messaging systems, as these are a close match to what we are trying to do; AIM, GAIM, etc, have plugin APIs, we just need people to write them. Anyone interested in getting involved - you don't have to know java! - subscribe to the list and explain your interest. People who have prior experience of writing plugins for these things are especially welcome, but if you are interested in the topic then please subscribe to darknet-tools. http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/darknet-tools/ -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/darknet-tools/attachments/20060621/043c1626/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Jun 21 16:39:46 2006 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:39:46 +0100 Subject: [Darknet-tools] IRC plugins Message-ID: <20060621163946.GA6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> We have two volunteers to write IRC plugins: David McNab (aum) has been working on a bot to do reference exchange (which I don't entirely support!), and said he'd look into writing a plugin for darknet ref exchange for xchat. FuriousRage said he would write a darknet ref exchange plugin for mIRC (I think). Would anyone else like to write an IRC plugin? Or an AIM/GAIM/Jabber/etc plugin? :) -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/darknet-tools/attachments/20060621/74ff8c8c/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Jun 21 16:41:46 2006 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:41:46 +0100 Subject: [Darknet-tools] IRC plugins: standards Message-ID: <20060621164146.GB6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> What exactly should an IRC plugin do? What mechanisms should it use? E.g. should it try to use DCC if /msg doesn't work because the user isn't registered? Or even a dedicated exchange channel? And can we standardize its format so that two different IRC plugins can talk to one another transparently? Note that the plugin ought to be able to usefully talk to a human being too! -- Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/darknet-tools/attachments/20060621/8a12f368/attachment.pgp From stefan at tspse.net Wed Jun 21 16:47:32 2006 From: stefan at tspse.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Gr=F6nberg?=) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:47:32 +0200 Subject: [Darknet-tools] IRC plugins In-Reply-To: <20060621163946.GA6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <20060621163946.GA6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <44997824.7050209@tspse.net> Ya, i can take the mIRC script. Matthew Toseland wrote: > FuriousRage said he would write a darknet ref exchange plugin for mIRC > (I think). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Darknet-tools mailing list > Darknet-tools at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/darknet-tools > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/darknet-tools/attachments/20060621/e793be7a/attachment.htm From Colin at sq7.org Wed Jun 21 16:59:48 2006 From: Colin at sq7.org (Colin Davis) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:59:48 -0400 Subject: [Darknet-tools] IRC plugins: standards In-Reply-To: <20060621164146.GB6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <20060621164146.GB6432@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: The most importaint is that bots have some way to recognize other bots, so that they don't get stuck in a /msg loop with one another.. I've already seen that happening with Aum's bot, and a version someone modified. I think the easiest way to do that is via a question/response. Something that works in human terms as well. Something like /msg XXX Are you a bot /msg YYY Yes, using protocol 1.0 After that point, you can know to stop answering it after X requests, etc, so you avoid a loop. On Jun 21, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > What exactly should an IRC plugin do? What mechanisms should it use? > E.g. should it try to use DCC if /msg doesn't work because the user > isn't registered? Or even a dedicated exchange channel? And can we > standardize its format so that two different IRC plugins can talk > to one another transparently? > > Note that the plugin ought to be able to usefully talk to a human > being > too! > -- > Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > _______________________________________________ > Darknet-tools mailing list > Darknet-tools at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/darknet-tools