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<DIV>I'd like to add to the 0.5 vs 0.7 discussion in the support list, which we were</DIV>
<DIV>asked to move here, so I hope the people from support are reading this!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regarding the social networks, the models that exist probably apply to national</DIV>
<DIV>systems only, and probably to a certain social class within that, so I'm not</DIV>
<DIV>convinced that they would have any meaning for an underground internet network.</DIV>
<DIV>I.E. how would a darknet of chinese dissidents link up with freedom fighters</DIV>
<DIV>in an oppressive latin american regime? And how would any of these link</DIV>
<DIV>up with a darknet of german kids wishing to download warez or whatever?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But here's the big question: what mechanism can freenet have, for protecting</DIV>
<DIV>members of a darknet, when a darknet is infiltrated by a hostile node?</DIV>
<DIV>When I talked about infiltrating the darknet, I did not mean breaking it from the </DIV>
<DIV>outside with some super computers, (which I'm sure is harder to do with 0,7 than</DIV>
<DIV>with 0,5), I simply meant posing as an "inside person" and joining it, or simply</DIV>
<DIV>busting one member and capturing his computer. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Toad (I believe) replied to this saying that I might as well hang myself if I think</DIV>
<DIV>that there's noone I can trust in life. But come on, that's not the point, everyone knows</DIV>
<DIV>that spies take on false identities and infiltrate every kind of illegal network.</DIV>
<DIV>That's what they get paid for.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also, it just isn't realistic to think that people will know others in real life that they</DIV>
<DIV>can trust with the kind of things they need anonymity for. A minority </DIV>
<DIV>of people will have such connections, but the majority will not! This will mean that</DIV>
<DIV>for freenet to be viable it will always need to have a public mechanism for joining.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, again the question is:</DIV>
<DIV>What mechanism will 0,7 have for protecting members of the darknet if</DIV>
<DIV>one of the nodes is spy? I think this issue seriously needs to be solved!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Are "the bad guys" really going to spend millions on high tech</DIV>
<DIV>computers to break a network, when all they have to do is join it? Thinking</DIV>
<DIV>we can keep them out is absurd! Any current member of 0,7 could just as well</DIV>
<DIV>be or become a spy or a narc or whatever.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Van</DIV>
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