From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Oct 3 15:29:34 2006 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (toad) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:29:34 +0100 Subject: [freenet-chat] Adding more index sites Message-ID: <20061003152934.GA32039@amphibian.dyndns.org> We should add some more index sites. Currently we only have the Darknet Index: USK at PFeLTa1si2Ml5sDeUy7eDhPso6TPdmw-2gWfQ4Jg02w,3ocfrqgUMVWA2PeorZx40TW0c-FiIOL-TWKQHoDbVdE,AQABAAE/Index/40/index.html The problem with this is it hasn't been updated in ages. There is the public index (which is always up to date, it seems), but IMHO it would be unwise to link to something which is globally writable; somebody may replace it with a redirect to the goat man, or worse, in the middle of us being /.ed or doing a major release. USK at 60I8H8HinpgZSOuTSD66AVlIFAy-xsppFr0YCzCar7c,NzdivUGCGOdlgngOGRbbKDNfSCnjI0FXjHLzJM4xkJ4,AQABAAE/index/83/ Then there is Indicia. This has activelinks, but offensive activelinks are censored. It has descriptions for every site, although some of them are ambiguous, and it is categorised. And it's updated regularly. A first time user browsing Indicia will only run into porn if they want it, and as far as I can see there is no outrageous child porn at the moment, and even if there was it would almost certainly be labelled properly. USK at c55vMxUl-T-lD3nv0iOaXF%7eG1hnY6pOMRbzZSwACMmY%2cyd8%7euwUmGm164-ipStoiBOJVjkbbYXJMlD%7eH5ftPxIA%2cAQABAAE/Indicia/31/ And there is Another Index. This is uncensored, no pictures, with no manual descriptions, although it may be manually categorised. The problem is that on the Porn section it links to a site called "kp", without explaining the (sadly well-known amongst freenet users) acronym. USK at e4TEIN5l1nkn6kjl63XBgYTYobmwGvtnyK2YW0b0ajo,hv-2~OfetXkb0FhDuPxorWIf0wXeZKPEfdIhwyh-mhk,AQABAAE/AnotherIndex/27/ Which of these should we put on our homepage? Ian has stated that our policy must be to link to those indexes which will best help users to find content, without prejudice to the nature of that content. Indicia scores very high on this count, by virtue of having descriptions. IMHO another, related requirement we should impose is that newbies won't run into child porn without being warned about it at some stage. So should we include AnotherIndex, or not? If we do, should we include a warning that it doesn't provide descriptions and there may be objectionable content? If we're going to put warnings on, should we include the Public Index as well? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kuijn wrote: > >> On Wednesday 27 September 2006 18:41, Ian Clarke wrote: >>> Apparently there was an article about Freenet in Dutch newsweekly >>> Nieuwe Revu about a month ago, written by a journalist who >>> infiltrated a child pornography ring on Freenet. He interviewed me >>> for the article several months ago. >>> >>> Has anyone seen this, and can anyone provide an English translation? >> I haven't seen it, but I am sure I'll be able to look this up. It >> will be an >> honour to translate it for you. > > I would really appreciate that. > > Kind regards, > > Ian. Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. phone: 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/chat/attachments/20061003/c32c641e/attachment.htm From lars.j.nielsen at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 18:27:34 2006 From: lars.j.nielsen at gmail.com (Lars Juel Nielsen) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:27:34 +0200 Subject: [freenet-chat] More fingerprinting in the UK Message-ID: This can only go wrong... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/20/pub_fingerprints/ From scarreigns at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 03:58:25 2006 From: scarreigns at gmail.com (Taka Khumbartha) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:58:25 -0700 Subject: [freenet-chat] More fingerprinting in the UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45399AE1.9040902@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lars Juel Nielsen @ 2006/10/20 11:27: > This can only go wrong... > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/20/pub_fingerprints/ how so? could you explain? i sense deep down you are right, but i can't realize it. the article doesn't go into much detail about the system. it seems to be a good solution. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBRTmaxV4XwiTbvfKgEQLuJgCbBVM/MzxwVcVaefz9DrodNpB85YUAoN1D KdteTwmS2Tl8f3AxowSi2RNk =SMM5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ian at locut.us Fri Oct 27 22:34:47 2006 From: ian at locut.us (Ian Clarke) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:34:47 -0700 Subject: [freenet-chat] Freenet on Newsnight Message-ID: <1E715D37-DBCA-4F34-B285-A8FB872153E5@locut.us> Freenet was just featured prominently on Newsnight, the BBC's flagship nightly news programme. The show will be online until Monday, while it is you can watch it here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm The Freenet segment is right at the start. Theo did a really great job of explaining the project (take it from me that it isn't easy when you only have a few seconds), and hopefully this will result in significant new interest in the project. Ian. Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. phone: 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/chat/attachments/20061027/3aa8bbb6/attachment.htm