[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

[Matthew Toseland]

(Moved to chat)

On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 04:35:18PM +0000, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote:
> Evan,
> 
> You are right - there is a lot of data to show that social networks do 
> expand in the method being said here, but that data is based on known, 
> non-anonymous social networks. In an anonymous network the rule of thumb is 
> trust no one.

If you trust nobody then you won't get very far in life. ALL practical
systems, INCLUDING TOR, are based on some trust in somebody or some
structure.
> 
> If an openet is not the solution, neither is posting information with an 
> embeded IP number the solution. I don't know how the openet is hackable, 
> especially if node connections pr paths through nodes change randomly 
> (TOR-like), but with a manually established network it only takes capturing 
> 1 node and the entire freenet is at risk. 

With an opennet all it takes is capturing one node, and you can
electronically spider the network. You don't need to go bust more doors
down. You don't even need to do traffic analysis to see what connections
span out from connected nodes. All you have to do is run a slightly
hacked node and you can harvest most of the network very quickly. Note
that this is even easier on I2P as there is a global DHT of nodes; Tor
likewise has a global list of nodes.

> I would be more inclined to 
> exchange node information with someone if the information were encrypted - 
> private/public key. In an anonymous social network I would be more inclined 
> to expand that network to others because my node information is encrypted.

If you want your node to do something then it will at some point have to
connect to somebody. That means each of you must know the other's IP
address. Full stop, end of story.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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