[freenet-chat] Freenet 0,5 or 0,7

- van2 at vipmail.hu
Sun Aug 27 17:45:27 UTC 2006


I'd like to add to the 0.5 vs 0.7 discussion in the support list, which we
were
asked to move here, so I hope the people from support are reading this!
 
 
Regarding the social networks, the models that exist probably apply to
national
systems only, and probably to a certain social class within that, so I'm not
convinced that they would have any meaning for an underground internet
network.
I.E. how would a darknet of chinese dissidents link up with freedom fighters
in an oppressive latin american regime? And how would any of these link
up with a darknet of german kids wishing to download warez or whatever?
 
But here's the big question: what mechanism can freenet have, for protecting
members of a darknet, when a darknet is infiltrated by a hostile node?
When I talked about infiltrating the darknet, I did not mean breaking it
from the 
outside with some super computers, (which I'm sure is harder to do with 0,7
than
with 0,5), I simply meant posing as an "inside person" and joining it, or
simply
busting one member and capturing his computer. 
 
Toad (I believe) replied to this saying that I might as well hang myself if
I think
that there's noone I can trust in life. But come on, that's not the point,
everyone knows
that spies take on false identities and infiltrate every kind of illegal
network.
That's what they get paid for.
 
Also, it just isn't realistic to think that people will know others in real
life that they
can trust with the kind of things they need anonymity for. A minority 
of people will have such connections, but the majority will not! This will
mean that
for freenet to be viable it will always need to have a public mechanism for
joining.
 
So, again the question is:
What mechanism will 0,7 have for protecting members of the darknet if
one of the nodes is spy? I think this issue seriously needs to be solved!
 
Are "the bad guys" really going to spend millions on high tech
computers to break a network, when all they have to do is join it? Thinking
we can keep them out is absurd! Any current member of 0,7 could just as well
be or become a spy or a narc or whatever.
 
 
 
Van
 
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