From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Mon Sep 1 17:59:45 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:59:45 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1159 Message-ID: <200809011859.51608.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1159 is now available. Please upgrade, let us know if auto-update doesn't fetch it for you. This build will be mandatory on Monday the 8th of September. Major changes: - Significant work on the temporary buckets code. This should fix the memory problems that many experienced in 1158. Nextgens has been working on this for a few builds, and it should improve the performance of e.g. fproxy by caching a small amount (10MB by default) of temporary data in RAM to speed things up. - Various other optimisations by nextgens and others. - Language updates for Finnish, German, French and Italian. - Don't use the detected bandwidth limits from UP&P if it's obviously double NATed (i.e. a router behind another router). - A few bug fixes. - Some code tidy-ups. Note that the plugins API has changed slightly. You may need to reload some plugins after upgrading, or if you have recently reloaded plugins on 1158, they may not work. Note also that there is a new freenet-ext.jar. This will be automatically downloaded once the node has upgraded to 1159. The new freenet-ext.jar includes changes to the database used for the datastore that are **not backwards compatible**: once your database has been upgraded, it will not work with older freenet-ext.jar's. Thanks to: batosai j16sdiz Luke771 NEOatNHNG nextgens saces Smar toad In other news, batosai has been working on his Web of Trust plugin, which may now become the basis for an easier to use java-based FMS implementation (saces is working on the middle layer, that part is so far published over Freenet/hg only), j16sdiz continues to work on the salted hash datastore, which should be a significant gain in performance, memory usage and simplicity, and toad (me) continues to work on the database branch; I will send a message soliciting wider testing on that soon, it has more or less reached a usable performance level at least for requests. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you want to help the network, have at least 256kbps upstream bandwidth, and a static IP (or at least a dyndns address), please check in your config that "Be a seednode" is enabled, and send me your node reference. This should significantly improve performance for new nodes, and therefore hopefully get us more users, more content, etc etc. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080901/a22e6b11/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Mon Sep 1 20:20:21 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:20:21 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Request for wider testing of the db4o branch (it's much easier now!) Message-ID: <200809012120.23020.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> The db4o branch of Freenet is rapidly approaching usability, so I'd very much like some more folk to try it out and let me know what they think, especially in terms of performance. I include instructions below. The db4o branch is a version of Freenet with all persistent requests kept in a database, this has several advantages: - Much lower memory usage for large queues. You will need a fixed 3.7MB for every 10GB of queued downloads, plus obviously some temporary space; locally I have 4.86GB queued on a 128MB node memory limit. - Fewer memory-related problems: Many nodes with largish queues have to do garbage collection very frequently, causing high CPU usage, and get OutOfMemoryExceptions and crashes. - Instant request resuming: On restarting, a db4o node will immediately have all of your persistent downloads up and running from exactly where they were before your node was shut down. On the current Freenet, downloads have to start all over again on restart, causing the node to thrash the datastore for a long time, high CPU usage, I/O, and wasting time that could be used to fetch data. Also, startup should be significantly quicker. Possible disadvantages: We may have slightly higher CPU usage if there is plenty of RAM and the node isn't restarted, and there will probably be slightly higher disk I/O. Also, I have put a lot of effort into debugging and optimising downloads, uploads seem to work but may be slow, and I haven't tested directory uploads yet. If you would like to help to test the db4o branch, especially on slow systems, this would be very helpful. Please download the freenet-ext.jar and freenet-cvs-latest.jar from the CHKs below, shut down your node, replace freenet-ext.jar with the downloaded version, and replace freenet-stable-latest.jar or freenet.jar or freenet.jar.new (you may have one or more of these files, they're all the same thing), with the downloaded freenet-cvs-latest.jar. CHK at qOcoVmDoMz2gP03I77~Ax375Ixq-Z~kvmYYEj6aJXG8,FlOIKbkwiIxp5Hl9b~~WzBq7UQD01WUf55g-QU8g7TM,AAIC--8/freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar CHK at hgyAtyRgEujwAnx~U~emgdHHkf6SuXPMP0CnEXAlzH4,P65Gw3WRgxJc~29NkRMGw2yG-WkL5K54DgP4UBl7~3M,AAIC--8/freenet-ext-db4o.jar (based on SVN revision 21903) A few tips once you've got it set up: The db4o testing howto site is now out of date, you can get it working much more quickly. However, you may find it a useful source of testing material to download (see the end); my testing collection includes files listed on the db4o test site, a few other linux ISOs, a few FMS binaries/source files, some pages/images from the Ghost Town mirror, all the CD images from the Resources page on my flog, all the >2MB bibles on TCR and all the big audio zip files from a site linked from TCR. All in an under 128MB memory footprint and ~ 15% CPU. You can test with whatever you want, but bear in mind that ANY BUG REPORTS OR TEST RESULTS FROM USERS OBVIOUSLY ENGAGED IN COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT WILL BE IGNORED AND WILL LOSE THEIR RIGHT TO TECH SUPPORT! USK at hiBur-SUasOR-m7qzR2HmTDLGmVQTuZKzS7va2zUyhQ,lOXQvKathjQzrbAt4Wy~puFsVvmcUDzo5z2Y59isf2c,AQACAAE/db4o-testing-howto/5 CHK at Y7JTTsam8WgSGV5gdDmYq7nEGx6cLOV3MrHpXk3V2Us,HXWDlR9VXU0woUJu~gVpJMuhhpJpo9kwI8GFjJY~NUw,AAIC--8/mandriva-linux-free-2008-spring-cd1-i586.iso CHK at dYbLzaLYhOqVYfQcsJj5o91AwdctrbVwbJMU929P4-0,N5BUpWFeEfi5WpD49jB1XyIcmY-6SZiroUUg0~GOenA,AAIC--8/debian-40r3-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso CHK at 8WY4whItpoVvZN5HPuFi70YokL-ituk1W0Ogaqg~J4o,JJ587LGGbHi9zUqMJ~j1MqPVt0mDuD6uPeAk2fym3B8,AAIC--8/slackware-12.1-install-d1.iso CHK at 1xFD0Pes-2ON5fa2l0g1xCMH5jpRzpljk0n2ZMHZztc,uINsyVsBcuL-O5-ji7ReHiltouMSplUw-PxW1Tx8vLA,AAIC--8/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso Finally, note that I may still have to change data structures in a way which will make upgrading to a new version of the branch impossible without deleting your node.db4o and thus wiping your download and upload queues. I will indicate when this is necessary when I post a new jar. Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080901/bbc90498/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Mon Sep 1 23:51:29 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:51:29 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1160 Message-ID: <200809020051.35036.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1160 is now available. Sorry for the two updates in one day, but you'll like this one. As soon as 1160 is mandatory, on Friday, FOAF routing will be automatically enabled (unless you turn it off in the configuration). Friend-Of-A-Friend routing is a way of taking our peers' peers' locations into account when routing, which all theory and simulation suggests should improve network performance significantly, by cutting the path length needed to find data. There are some security issues with it, but we believe we have adequately addressed them with the code to limit any one peer to no more than 30% of our outgoing requests (provided there are at least 5 connected peers). Please upgrade! And let us know how it goes! There are also a few other minor improvements, including a link to open with KeyExplorer on the not-found-in-manifest page (you should install the official KeyExplorer plugin to take advantage of this), improvements to the translation toadlet, and minor optimisations. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is Freenet running the latest version, 1160? There may have been some versioning problems that would break the plugin until you upgraded... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080904/d2de3ecf/attachment.pgp From freenetwork at web.de Thu Sep 4 16:08:33 2008 From: freenetwork at web.de (freenetwork at web.de) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:08:33 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Official SVN repository - where? Message-ID: <48C00801.5040504@web.de> Hi, The Freenet Project seems to be hosted on multiple repositories: - http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22287, last checkin 12:30:37, 31.08.2008, UUID 3a10de70-7c39-0410-8089-25560844f2f1, obtained from http://freenetproject.org/download.html) - https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22417, last checkin 18:00:12, 04.09.2008, UUID 67a373e5-eb02-0410-a15c-ee090a768436, being the one I used to use) I find it really disturbing to see that there are multiple repositories - with one even being hosted at google and not even with https! Which is the official repository? Are there even more? Please get this straight. Please close down all not official repositores. Please update all references to the official repository. From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Sep 4 22:39:53 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:39:53 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Official SVN repository - where? In-Reply-To: <48C00801.5040504@web.de> References: <48C00801.5040504@web.de> Message-ID: <200809042340.11717.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> We have had a number of denial of service attacks on emu over the years, including against SVN. Hence we decided (reluctantly) to read-only mirror our repository onto emu, and only allow access to emu for developers. Unfortunately google has had some bugs recently, which prevent mirroring from completing, so we've had to re-open emu. We are seriously considering moving to a DSCM (probably Mercurial), which would solve these and a number of other problems, but we haven't done this yet. At this moment in time, google is not being synced, and emu is open. When google syncing works again, we will close emu again. Clear? On Thursday 04 September 2008 17:08, freenetwork at web.de wrote: > Hi, > > The Freenet Project seems to be hosted on multiple repositories: > - http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22287, last > checkin 12:30:37, 31.08.2008, UUID 3a10de70-7c39-0410-8089-25560844f2f1, > obtained from http://freenetproject.org/download.html) > - https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22417, last > checkin 18:00:12, 04.09.2008, UUID 67a373e5-eb02-0410-a15c-ee090a768436, > being the one I used to use) > > I find it really disturbing to see that there are multiple repositories > - with one even being hosted at google and not even with https! > > Which is the official repository? Are there even more? > > Please get this straight. > Please close down all not official repositores. > Please update all references to the official repository. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had expected a electronic spider to put activelinks onto an index page but I read following on top of "Freenet Activelink Index", which surprises me very much: "This index is manually maintained and at the moment I will include pretty much any site that has an activelink, except for xxxx sites......" ? - which to me indicates that freesites are not anonymously announced, and not free of censorship? I am on FMS, but I would prefer a "spider" to announce freesites without any human person interferring? Is it possible to get freesites onto any of the indexes without any censorship? From Volodya at WhenGendarmeSleeps.org Fri Sep 5 08:10:40 2008 From: Volodya at WhenGendarmeSleeps.org (Volodya) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:10:40 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] How to announce a freesite anonymously In-Reply-To: <200809050941.37554.bqz69@telia.com> References: <200809050941.37554.bqz69@telia.com> Message-ID: <48C0E980.7040706@WhenGendarmeSleeps.org> bqz69 wrote: > I have published two small test sites (index.html - activelink.png - an > archive file with some images) - using jsite. > > It works fine, when I download them to myself. > > But how do you get freesites onto the freenet indexes anonymously in the > spirit of Freenet. > > I had expected a electronic spider to put activelinks onto an index page but I > read following on top of "Freenet Activelink Index", which surprises me very > much: > > "This index is manually maintained and at the moment I will include pretty > much any site that has an activelink, except for xxxx sites......" ? > > - which to me indicates that freesites are not anonymously announced, and not > free of censorship? > > I am on FMS, but I would prefer a "spider" to announce freesites without any > human person interferring? > > Is it possible to get freesites onto any of the indexes without any > censorship? Whether or not an index censors its contents depends upon the person who makes an index. If you believe that all indexes are censored, start your own, i will definitely start using it. To get your site in some indexes anonymously you might want to create a throw away identity on FMS and post to the 'sites' (no quotes) board. - Volodya P.S. Unfortunately i see a lot more pro-censorship folks on 0,7 then use to be on 0,5. I don't really know how this happened, but the trend needs to be reversed. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://freenetproject.org/ The Free Network project "None of us are free until all of us are free." ~ Mihail Bakunin From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Sep 5 11:30:14 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:30:14 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] How to announce a freesite anonymously In-Reply-To: <200809050941.37554.bqz69@telia.com> References: <200809050941.37554.bqz69@telia.com> Message-ID: <200809051230.16062.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Friday 05 September 2008 08:41, bqz69 wrote: > I have published two small test sites (index.html - activelink.png - an > archive file with some images) - using jsite. > > It works fine, when I download them to myself. > > But how do you get freesites onto the freenet indexes anonymously in the > spirit of Freenet. > > I had expected a electronic spider to put activelinks onto an index page but I > read following on top of "Freenet Activelink Index", which surprises me very > much: > > "This index is manually maintained and at the moment I will include pretty > much any site that has an activelink, except for xxxx sites......" ? > > - which to me indicates that freesites are not anonymously announced, and not > free of censorship? > > I am on FMS, but I would prefer a "spider" to announce freesites without any > human person interferring? > > Is it possible to get freesites onto any of the indexes without any > censorship? Spiders can only follow links. You need the first link for them to pick your site up. The usual way to get the first link is to announce your site on the sites board on FMS. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080905/b1275ea5/attachment.pgp From garbage_in_garbage_out at hotmail.com Fri Sep 5 18:30:35 2008 From: garbage_in_garbage_out at hotmail.com (gar) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:30:35 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Constant database corruption finally thrashes my hard drive Message-ID: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> My node has been down for several days. I have traced my problem back to a failing hard drive. It was brand new 2 years ago when I dedicated it to freenet. It seems as of late my node was constantly restarting every day or so when it used to run fine for a week or two. I suspect all the constant deleting of 40,000 files every time the node restarts has taken it's toll on the hard drive. I am in the process of trying to salvage my store/nodd. Fortunately it seems all files are ok, except the chk-30507.cache file (40GB ..grrr). When I tried to move it to a new drive windows complained "cannot move the chk-30507.cache file it is corrupt or unreadable" The hard drive is almost dead as the transfer of data to a new drive is sometimes as slow as 30kb per second transfer rate. 25 GB took 8 hours to copy to a good drive :( My question is this: Should I just right off my old store completely? Or should I put all the other datastore files in the datastore directory on my new drive and fire up the node. I realize my cache is gone but the store file is still healthy and 25 GB in size. It would seem a shame to lose all that. Will my node be able to sort out what's happened and re-write the index? Yours truely, ...In a state of suspended confidence in freenet.... From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Sep 5 23:50:03 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 00:50:03 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Constant database corruption finally thrashes my hard drive In-Reply-To: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <200809060050.04616.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Yes, you can replace the cache/store files on the new node with those in datastore/, if you manage to copy the files. The node will happily reconstruct from them. You may have to change the filenames as the new node will probably be on a different port. With regards to thrashing, you might like to try the new "salted hash store" just merged in 1161. Hopefully this will have fewer reconstructions, although it's entirely possible that the frequent reconstructions were caused by the hard disk failing! On Friday 05 September 2008 19:30, gar wrote: > My node has been down for several days. I have traced my problem back to > a failing hard drive. It was brand new 2 years ago when I dedicated it > to freenet. > It seems as of late my node was constantly restarting every day or so > when it used to run fine for a week or two. I suspect all the constant > deleting of 40,000 files every time the node restarts has taken it's > toll on the hard drive. > I am in the process of trying to salvage my store/nodd. Fortunately it > seems all files are ok, except the chk-30507.cache file (40GB ..grrr). > When I tried to move it to a new drive windows complained "cannot move > the chk-30507.cache file > > it is corrupt or unreadable" > The hard drive is almost dead as the transfer of data to a new drive is > sometimes as slow as 30kb per second transfer rate. 25 GB took 8 hours > to copy to a good drive :( > > My question is this: > Should I just right off my old store completely? Or should I put all the > other datastore files in the datastore directory on my new drive and > fire up the node. I realize my cache is gone but the store file is still > healthy and 25 GB in size. It would seem a shame to lose all that. > Will my node be able to sort out what's happened and re-write the index? > > Yours truely, > > ...In a state of suspended confidence in freenet.... > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What does it mean exactly? I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. Thanks From freenet at peterjoosten.nl Sat Sep 6 16:56:41 2008 From: freenet at peterjoosten.nl (Peter J.) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:56:41 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809060050.04616.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> Message-ID: <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: > I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to > use freenet since the last update): > > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > > Should I be concerned about this? > What does it mean exactly? > I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. > > Thanks > > Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. Greetings From freenet at peterjoosten.nl Sat Sep 6 17:18:28 2008 From: freenet at peterjoosten.nl (Peter J.) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:18:28 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> Message-ID: <200809061918.28766.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:56:41 Peter J. wrote: > On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: > > I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to > > use freenet since the last update): > > > > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > > failures) > > > > > Should I be concerned about this? > > What does it mean exactly? > > I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. > > > > Thanks > > Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours > because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I > get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. > > Greetings I'm also getting alot of these messages INFO | jvm 24 | 2008/09/06 19:14:10 | Bogus or unreconstructible key at slot 1019 : freenet.keys.SSKVerifyException: Unknown type byte 0 - lost block 1019 INFO | jvm 24 | 2008/09/06 19:14:10 | Key 1024/8160 OK (0 dupes, 20 failures) From ebaschiera at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 17:20:50 2008 From: ebaschiera at gmail.com (Ermanno Baschiera) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:20:50 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809060050.04616.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> Message-ID: My node is fine. By the way it has 384 MB maximum available. 2008/9/6 Peter J. : > On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: >> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >> use freenet since the last update): >> >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) > > > >> >> Should I be concerned about this? >> What does it mean exactly? >> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >> >> Thanks >> >> > > Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours > because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I > get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. > > Greetings > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Sat Sep 6 17:30:26 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:30:26 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809060050.04616.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> Message-ID: <200809061830.33319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Saturday 06 September 2008 16:49, Mr. Flibble wrote: > I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to > use freenet since the last update): This means that the datastore was corrupted and is being reconstructed. This is normal, but if it happens very often there may be a problem. > > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:59 | Key 4746240/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:19 | Key 4747264/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:38 | Key 4748288/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:02 | Key 4749312/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:29 | Key 4750336/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:05 | Key 4751360/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:32 | Key 4752384/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:00 | Key 4753408/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:27 | Key 4754432/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:02 | Key 4755456/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:29 | Key 4756480/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:55 | Key 4757504/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:17 | Key 4758528/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:40 | Key 4759552/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:11 | Key 4760576/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:35 | Key 4761600/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:59 | Key 4762624/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:24 | Key 4763648/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:57 | Key 4764672/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:20 | Key 4765696/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:51 | Key 4766720/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > > Should I be concerned about this? > What does it mean exactly? > I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. > > Thanks > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080906/2423eea2/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Sat Sep 6 17:32:30 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:32:30 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> Message-ID: <200809061832.31621.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:56, Peter J. wrote: > On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: > > I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to > > use freenet since the last update): > > > > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > > failures) > > > > > > > Should I be concerned about this? > > What does it mean exactly? > > I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours > because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I > get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. 3 questions: 1. Please post your freenet.ini. What's the database memory usage limit setting set to? 2. What's the node's memory limit set to? 3. How much stuff do you have on the queue? Approximate total bytes to download, and total bytes to upload? > > Greetings -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080906/e25ab58b/attachment.pgp From freenet at peterjoosten.nl Sat Sep 6 17:56:36 2008 From: freenet at peterjoosten.nl (Peter J.) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:56:36 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061832.31621.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809061856.42192.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> <200809061832.31621.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200809061956.36738.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> On Saturday 06 September 2008 19:32:30 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > 3 questions: > 1. Please post your freenet.ini. What's the database memory usage limit > setting set to? > 2. What's the node's memory limit set to? > 3. How much stuff do you have on the queue? Approximate total bytes to > download, and total bytes to upload? > > > Greetings 1. freenet.txt attached 2. I have the maximum Java memory set to 508 MiB 3. That could explain alot: ????????download: aprox. 3.3 Gib ????????upload ? ? : aprox. 2.4 Gib Some information about the used Java version and OS: Maximum Java memory: 508 MiB Available CPUs: 2 Java Version: 1.6.0_07 JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. JVM Version: 10.0-b23 OS Name: Linux OS Version: 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 OS Architecture: i386 Greetings -------------- next part -------------- fproxy.port=8888 fproxy.enabled=true fproxy.allowedHosts=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fproxy.advancedModeEnabled=true fproxy.showPanicButton=false fproxy.ssl=false fproxy.bindTo=0.0.0.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fproxy.allowedHostsFullAccess=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fproxy.css=boxed pluginmanager.loadplugin=JSTUN;SNMP;XMLSpider;ThawIndexBrowser;XMLLibrarian;KeyExplorer;Freemail toadletsymlinker.symlinks=/sl/gallery/%23/plugins/plugins.TestGallery/;/sl/search/%23/plugins/plugins.Librarian/ fcp.port=9481 fcp.allowedHosts=127.0.0.1,192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fcp.persistentDownloadsEnabled=true fcp.ssl=false fcp.bindTo=0.0.0.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 fcp.allowedHostsFullAccess=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 ssl.sslVersion=SSLv3 ssl.sslEnable=false ssl.sslKeyStore=datastore/certs ssl.sslKeyStorePass=freenet ssl.sslKeyPass=freenet node.opennet.enabled=true node.opennet.assumeNATed=true node.opennet.listenPort=19904 node.opennet.alwaysAllowLocalAddresses=true node.opennet.acceptSeedConnections=true node.opennet.bindTo=0.0.0.0 node.testnet.enabled=false node.tempDir=./temp-39242 node.l10n=English node.extraPeerDataDir=./extra-peer-data-39242 node.assumeNATed=true node.outputBandwidthLimit=80KiB node.storeSize=80GiB node.inputBandwidthLimit=-1 node.storeDir=datastore node.ipAddressOverride=83.161.29.2 node.downloadAllowedDirs=all node.listenPort=39242 node.uploadAllowedDirs=all node.name=freenet at somehwere.com node.nodeDir=. node.downloadsDir=downloads node.bindTo=0.0.0.0 console.enabled=false console.ssl=false security-levels.physicalThreatLevel=NORMAL security-levels.friendsThreatLevel=NORMAL security-levels.networkThreatLevel=NORMAL node.updater.extURI=USK at BFa1voWr5PunINSZ5BGMqFwhkJTiDBBUrOZ0MYBXseg,BOrxeLzUMb6R9tEZzexymY0zyKAmBNvrU4A9Q0tAqu0,AQACAAE/ext/21 node.updater.autoupdate=true node.updater.URI=USK at BFa1voWr5PunINSZ5BGMqFwhkJTiDBBUrOZ0MYBXseg,BOrxeLzUMb6R9tEZzexymY0zyKAmBNvrU4A9Q0tAqu0,AQACAAE/update/1161 logger.maxZippedLogsSize=128MiB logger.priority=NORMAL node.load.threadLimit=500 End From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Sat Sep 6 18:46:25 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:46:25 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061956.36738.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809061832.31621.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <200809061956.36738.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> Message-ID: <200809061946.26292.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:56, Peter J. wrote: > On Saturday 06 September 2008 19:32:30 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > > > > 3 questions: > > 1. Please post your freenet.ini. What's the database memory usage limit > > setting set to? > > 2. What's the node's memory limit set to? > > 3. How much stuff do you have on the queue? Approximate total bytes to > > download, and total bytes to upload? > > > > > Greetings > > 1. freenet.txt attached Nothing obvious there. > 2. I have the maximum Java memory set to 508 MiB Hmmm, that's a lot. > 3. That could explain alot: > ????????download: aprox. 3.3 Gib > ????????upload ? ? : aprox. 2.4 Gib That's a fair amount too. The downloads will use a significant amount of RAM, the uploads will use a huge amount of RAM. You might like to try to db4o branch, although there's a good chance the uploads won't work ... I will work on uploads soon... Does increasing the memory limit help, or is it as high as you can go without hitting swap already? > > > Some information about the used Java version and OS: > Maximum Java memory: 508 MiB > Available CPUs: 2 > Java Version: 1.6.0_07 > JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. > JVM Version: 10.0-b23 > OS Name: Linux > OS Version: 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 > OS Architecture: i386 > > > Greetings -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080906/7e1a6e4c/attachment.pgp From mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk Sat Sep 6 19:20:11 2008 From: mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk (Mr. Flibble) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:20:11 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061830.33319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com><200809060050.04616.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org><000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001@deepspace3> <200809061830.33319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <007501c91055$96b5c810$0a7b0001@deepspace3> Hiya, Thanks for the reply. > This means that the datastore was corrupted and is being > reconstructed. This > is normal, but if it happens very often there may be a problem. Ah, weird. Not sure what could have caused the corruption, my node's been up for a few days, without me restarting the service myself. Anyway, a couple of hours later and it seems to have fixed itself. Thanks! From garbage_in_garbage_out at hotmail.com Sun Sep 7 05:52:20 2008 From: garbage_in_garbage_out at hotmail.com (gar) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:52:20 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 36, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48C36C14.7000902@hotmail.com> support-request at freenetproject.org wrote: > Send Support mailing list submissions to > support at freenetproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > support-request at freenetproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > support-owner at freenetproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Support digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Odd startup errors (Mr. Flibble) > 2. Re: Odd startup errors (Peter J.) > 3. Re: Odd startup errors (Peter J.) > 4. Re: Odd startup errors (Ermanno Baschiera) > 5. Re: Odd startup errors (Matthew Toseland) > 6. Re: Odd startup errors (Matthew Toseland) > 7. Re: Odd startup errors (Peter J.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:49:07 +0100 > From: "Mr. Flibble" > Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: > Message-ID: <000f01c91038$1dc36f10$0a7b0001 at deepspace3> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to > use freenet since the last update): > > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:59 | Key 4746240/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:19 | Key 4747264/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:38 | Key 4748288/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:02 | Key 4749312/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:29 | Key 4750336/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:05 | Key 4751360/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:32 | Key 4752384/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:00 | Key 4753408/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:27 | Key 4754432/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:02 | Key 4755456/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:29 | Key 4756480/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:55 | Key 4757504/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:17 | Key 4758528/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:40 | Key 4759552/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:11 | Key 4760576/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:35 | Key 4761600/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:59 | Key 4762624/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:24 | Key 4763648/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:57 | Key 4764672/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:20 | Key 4765696/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:51 | Key 4766720/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 > failures) > > Should I be concerned about this? > What does it mean exactly? > I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. > > Thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:56:41 +0200 > From: "Peter J." > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: <200809061856.42192.freenet at peterjoosten.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: > >> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >> use freenet since the last update): >> >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> > > > > >> Should I be concerned about this? >> What does it mean exactly? >> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> > > Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours > because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I > get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. > > Greetings > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:18:28 +0200 > From: "Peter J." > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: <200809061918.28766.freenet at peterjoosten.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:56:41 Peter J. wrote: > >> On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: >> >>> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >>> use freenet since the last update): >>> >>> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >>> failures) >>> >> >> >> >>> Should I be concerned about this? >>> What does it mean exactly? >>> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours >> because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I >> get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. >> >> Greetings >> > > I'm also getting alot of these messages > > INFO | jvm 24 | 2008/09/06 19:14:10 | Bogus or unreconstructible key at slot > 1019 : freenet.keys.SSKVerifyException: Unknown type byte 0 - lost block 1019 > INFO | jvm 24 | 2008/09/06 19:14:10 | Key 1024/8160 OK (0 dupes, 20 failures) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:20:50 +0200 > From: "Ermanno Baschiera" > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > My node is fine. By the way it has 384 MB maximum available. > > 2008/9/6 Peter J. : > >> On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: >> >>> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >>> use freenet since the last update): >>> >>> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >>> failures) >>> >> >> >> >>> Should I be concerned about this? >>> What does it mean exactly? >>> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >> Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours >> because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I >> get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. >> >> Greetings >> _______________________________________________ >> Support mailing list >> Support at freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >> Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:30:26 +0100 > From: Matthew Toseland > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: <200809061830.33319.toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 06 September 2008 16:49, Mr. Flibble wrote: > >> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >> use freenet since the last update): >> > > This means that the datastore was corrupted and is being reconstructed. This > is normal, but if it happens very often there may be a problem. > >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:59 | Key 4746240/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:19 | Key 4747264/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:35:38 | Key 4748288/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:02 | Key 4749312/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:36:29 | Key 4750336/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:05 | Key 4751360/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:37:32 | Key 4752384/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:00 | Key 4753408/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:38:27 | Key 4754432/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:02 | Key 4755456/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:29 | Key 4756480/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:39:55 | Key 4757504/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:17 | Key 4758528/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:40:40 | Key 4759552/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:11 | Key 4760576/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:35 | Key 4761600/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:41:59 | Key 4762624/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:24 | Key 4763648/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:42:57 | Key 4764672/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:20 | Key 4765696/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:43:51 | Key 4766720/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >> failures) >> >> Should I be concerned about this? >> What does it mean exactly? >> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support mailing list >> Support at freenetproject.org >> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >> Unsubscribe at >> > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > >> Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 827 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080906/2423eea2/attachment.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:32:30 +0100 > From: Matthew Toseland > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: freenet at peterjoosten.nl, support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: <200809061832.31621.toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:56, Peter J. wrote: > >> On Saturday 06 September 2008 17:49:07 Mr. Flibble wrote: >> >>> I'm seeing the following (just by accident - I haven't really had time to >>> use freenet since the last update): >>> >>> INFO | jvm 5 | 2008/09/06 16:34:33 | Key 4745216/5346530 OK (308 dupes, 0 >>> failures) >>> >> >> >> >>> Should I be concerned about this? >>> What does it mean exactly? >>> I haven't had chance to see how long this has been happening for yet. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >> Yeah I'm getting this too. Here Freenet stops (crashes) every 2-4 hours >> because it consumes all memory it is allowed to use and when it restarts I >> get these messages. Takes a while before freenet is restarted. >> > > 3 questions: > 1. Please post your freenet.ini. What's the database memory usage limit > setting set to? > 2. What's the node's memory limit set to? > 3. How much stuff do you have on the queue? Approximate total bytes to > download, and total bytes to upload? > >> Greetings >> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 827 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080906/e25ab58b/attachment.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:56:36 +0200 > From: "Peter J." > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors > To: support at freenetproject.org > Message-ID: <200809061956.36738.freenet at peterjoosten.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Saturday 06 September 2008 19:32:30 Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > >> 3 questions: >> 1. Please post your freenet.ini. What's the database memory usage limit >> setting set to? >> 2. What's the node's memory limit set to? >> 3. How much stuff do you have on the queue? Approximate total bytes to >> download, and total bytes to upload? >> >> >>> Greetings >>> > > 1. freenet.txt attached > 2. I have the maximum Java memory set to 508 MiB > 3. That could explain alot: > ????????download: aprox. 3.3 Gib > ????????upload ? ? : aprox. 2.4 Gib > > > Some information about the used Java version and OS: > Maximum Java memory: 508 MiB > Available CPUs: 2 > Java Version: 1.6.0_07 > JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc. > JVM Version: 10.0-b23 > OS Name: Linux > OS Version: 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 > OS Architecture: i386 > > > Greetings > > > -snip out OP's freenet.ini A little off topic... I had exactly the same errors in my logs for about the last few weeks. The node was very often restarting. This would happen more frequently if the were lots of large downloads queued. I had about 10GB queued. No uploads for the most part. Node max Mem is 1GB Max database mem was default 20MiB The hard drive, hence the node, DIED a couple days ago, BUT, Miraculously my datatstore was rebuilt from a partial save of the old one!!??! Somehow fred rebuilt 35GB of cache in less than an hour and it wasn't coming from my peers. How did that happen? and is it really the missing cache data? No, it cannot be because the downloads I had queued and 95% complete have started again at 0%. I am contemplating trying out the new salted-hash datastore. I read that it requires double the amount of space as the size of datastore to do the conversion and i'm sure it will be a time-consuming event, so I will wait for a few days when I have some free time. toad did mentioned in another thread that it may reduce the "thrashing" that the Berkeley DB was doing on my old dead drive. I'm not sure what killed my 2 year old SATA drive that was dedicated purely to my freenet node, but I'm leaning toward the constant cycle of creating and deleting 40,000 odd files upon each re-start. That' gotta take it's toll after a few years of that so maybe the other model of DB will work better. It's worth a try IMOH because I don't want to have to go through re-doing the node if another hard drive craps out. From freenet at peterjoosten.nl Sun Sep 7 15:38:23 2008 From: freenet at peterjoosten.nl (Peter J.) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:38:23 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Odd startup errors In-Reply-To: <200809061946.26292.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <48C17ACB.8080706@hotmail.com> <200809061956.36738.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> <200809061946.26292.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200809071738.23565.freenet@peterjoosten.nl> On Saturday 06 September 2008 20:46:25 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Saturday 06 September 2008 18:56, Peter J. wrote: > > 3. That could explain alot: > > ????????download: aprox. 3.3 Gib > > ????????upload ? ? : aprox. 2.4 Gib > > That's a fair amount too. The downloads will use a significant amount of > RAM, the uploads will use a huge amount of RAM. You might like to try to > db4o branch, although there's a good chance the uploads won't work ... I > will work on uploads soon... > > Does increasing the memory limit help, or is it as high as you can go > without hitting swap already? > Ok, I set the maximum allocatable memory for java to 1016 MiB. I saw the actual allocated memory rise to around 1000 Mib once then it dropped and it is now fluctuating somewhere between 700 Mib and 850 Mib. The node is now running for 6 hours. The computer is swapping some memory (for the first time actually ;) ) but that doesn't really hurt the performance. Maybe if I drop 100 Mib memory it won't use swap anymore but as I don't notice any significant lost of performance I think I keep it this way. Anyway, thanks for the advise. Greetings From Volodya at WhenGendarmeSleeps.org Mon Sep 8 10:13:52 2008 From: Volodya at WhenGendarmeSleeps.org (Volodya) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:13:52 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 36, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <48C36C14.7000902@hotmail.com> References: <48C36C14.7000902@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <48C4FAE0.8030306@WhenGendarmeSleeps.org> > I am contemplating trying out the new salted-hash datastore. I read that > it requires double the amount of space as the size of datastore to do > the conversion and i'm sure it will be a time-consuming event, so I will > wait for a few days when I have some free time. > toad did mentioned in another thread that it may reduce the "thrashing" > that the Berkeley DB was doing on my old dead drive. I'm not sure what > killed my 2 year old SATA drive that was dedicated purely to my freenet > node, but I'm leaning toward the constant cycle of creating and deleting > 40,000 odd files upon each re-start. That' gotta take it's toll after a > few years of that so maybe the other model of DB will work better. It's > worth a try IMOH because I don't want to have to go through re-doing the > node if another hard drive craps out. If you say that you have for the most part lost your datastore than you should do the change sooner rather than later. Personally i have changed after completely losing the whole store, as i had nothing to lose at the time, and i am very satisfied with the way salted-hash worked for me. -- http://freedom.libsyn.com/ Echo of Freedom, Radical Podcast http://eng.anarchopedia.org/ Anarchopedia, A Free Knowledge Portal http://freenetproject.org/ The Free Network project "None of us are free until all of us are free." ~ Mihail Bakunin From level13 at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 21:12:27 2008 From: level13 at gmail.com (Level 13) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 23:12:27 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Changing ports etc. Message-ID: <8e767170809081412l37bf0b0axce0399d698e1b1b4@mail.gmail.com> Is there a short how-to for Freenet 0.7 installation for those who are switching from 0.5? Especially I'm looking for info about: -how to change the default ports (which are already taken by other services on my server, and are not to be used at all), for local access as well as the one visible on the outside, -where to put the hostname.dyndns.xyz info so that you can be reached if you have a dynamic IP? From mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk Mon Sep 8 21:27:31 2008 From: mrflibble at urbantakeover.freeserve.co.uk (Mr. Flibble) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:27:31 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Changing ports etc. In-Reply-To: <8e767170809081412l37bf0b0axce0399d698e1b1b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e767170809081412l37bf0b0axce0399d698e1b1b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <037f01c911f9$b5a41c90$0a7b0001@deepspace3> If you're used to 0.5, then 0.7 should be easy. On the windows version the wizard will sort out things like that, and afterwards, it's all editable via the web interface. Just install it and try it! MrFlibble > -----Original Message----- > From: support-bounces at freenetproject.org > [mailto:support-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Level 13 > Sent: 08 September 2008 22:12 > To: support at freenetproject.org > Subject: [freenet-support] Changing ports etc. > > Is there a short how-to for Freenet 0.7 installation for those who are > switching from 0.5? Especially I'm looking for info about: > -how to change the default ports (which are already taken by other > services on my server, and are not to be used at all), for local > access as well as the one visible on the outside, > -where to put the hostname.dyndns.xyz info so that you can be reached > if you have a dynamic IP? From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 9 09:22:54 2008 From: bqz69 at telia.com (bqz69) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:22:54 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible Message-ID: <200809091122.54788.bqz69@telia.com> I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS minihowto, but I need an important question answered. How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some purpose, add reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet Friends, but is all on his own? This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about adding the very reference node (that I know already) Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find I need it explained in down to earth words? It is a very relevant question I hope. :-) From evanbd at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 13:05:05 2008 From: evanbd at gmail.com (Evan Daniel) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:05:05 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible In-Reply-To: <200809091122.54788.bqz69@telia.com> References: <200809091122.54788.bqz69@telia.com> Message-ID: <4f9383510809090605j48fbc5c8n62461749617d95da@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, bqz69 wrote: > I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS > minihowto, but I need an important question answered. > > How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some purpose, add > reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet Friends, > but is all on his own? > > This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about adding the > very reference node (that I know already) > > Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find > > I need it explained in down to earth words? > > It is a very relevant question I hope. :-) Short answer: you don't. Longer answer: the point of the Friends nodes is that the nodes are run by people you trust (for some value of trust). In order for that to be meaningful, you have to know the person in some context other than as a potential person to swap noderefs with. If you only know them as someone to swap noderefs with, then it's not particularly more or less secure than the automatic Strangers connections -- in either case, the people you're connecting to might be Bad Guys in disguise. So, in order to add Friends nodes in a manner that actually improves your security, you have to find people you know who run freenet -- if you don't know any such, then the best thing to do is convince your friends to run freenet, and swap noderefs with them. There simply isn't a shortcut here; if you want better security than the Strangers mode offers, you need to have some non-freenet-based trust in the person you're connecting to. (However, there's no requirement that you know the person in real life -- online friends who you know from another context work fine too.) Exactly how much you need to trust the Friends you connect to will depend on your personal situation. Hope that clears things up... Evan Daniel From holtrop at xs4all.nl Tue Sep 9 17:15:34 2008 From: holtrop at xs4all.nl (Jelbert Holtrop) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:15:34 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible In-Reply-To: <4f9383510809090605j48fbc5c8n62461749617d95da@mail.gmail.com> References: <200809091122.54788.bqz69@telia.com> <4f9383510809090605j48fbc5c8n62461749617d95da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <75223559-4B6D-408B-97F9-4EB2A88A3C68@xs4all.nl> Would it be possible to run a freenet node in a datacenter, that node will be set up to run with strangers. If I and my friends ( in a dark net) add that node as a friend we are alle connected to freenet and our identity is secure. If I would make such a setup what would be the ammount of data bandwidth (the total amount of send and received data a day/month ) needed for such a node? Is it possible to fix the maximum amount of bandwith used? I would not like to receive a bill for going over my quota. Jelbert On 9 Sep 2008, at 15:05, Evan Daniel wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, bqz69 wrote: >> I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS >> minihowto, but I need an important question answered. >> >> How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some >> purpose, add >> reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet >> Friends, >> but is all on his own? >> >> This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about >> adding the >> very reference node (that I know already) >> >> Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find >> >> I need it explained in down to earth words? >> >> It is a very relevant question I hope. :-) > > Short answer: you don't. > > Longer answer: the point of the Friends nodes is that the nodes are > run by people you trust (for some value of trust). In order for that > to be meaningful, you have to know the person in some context other > than as a potential person to swap noderefs with. If you only know > them as someone to swap noderefs with, then it's not particularly more > or less secure than the automatic Strangers connections -- in either > case, the people you're connecting to might be Bad Guys in disguise. > So, in order to add Friends nodes in a manner that actually improves > your security, you have to find people you know who run freenet -- if > you don't know any such, then the best thing to do is convince your > friends to run freenet, and swap noderefs with them. There simply > isn't a shortcut here; if you want better security than the Strangers > mode offers, you need to have some non-freenet-based trust in the > person you're connecting to. (However, there's no requirement that > you know the person in real life -- online friends who you know from > another context work fine too.) Exactly how much you need to trust > the Friends you connect to will depend on your personal situation. > > Hope that clears things up... > > Evan Daniel > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Sep 10 11:33:59 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:33:59 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible In-Reply-To: <75223559-4B6D-408B-97F9-4EB2A88A3C68@xs4all.nl> References: <200809091122.54788.bqz69@telia.com> <4f9383510809090605j48fbc5c8n62461749617d95da@mail.gmail.com> <75223559-4B6D-408B-97F9-4EB2A88A3C68@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <200809101234.07959.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 09 September 2008 18:15, Jelbert Holtrop wrote: > Would it be possible to run a freenet node in a datacenter, that node > will be set up to run with strangers. If I and my friends ( in a dark > net) add that node as a friend we are alle connected to freenet and > our identity is secure. Your identity is somewhat secure provided the node in the datacenter is secure, and the friends you add are trustworthy. Generally this sort of thing doesn't gain much performance unless it's the only way you can run a 24x7 node; most nodes don't manage output bandwidth over 70K/sec, and many nodes don't manage output bandwidth over 40K/sec. > If I would make such a setup what would be the ammount of data > bandwidth (the total amount of send and received data a day/month ) > needed for such a node? Is it possible to fix the maximum amount of > bandwith used? I would not like to receive a bill for going over my > quota. You would need to set the bandwidth limits accordingly. We don't currently support a transfer limit/average bandwidth limit, but we do support bandwidth limits on both upstream and downstream bandwidth. If you give freenet a 20K/sec output limit, it shouldn't use much more than that, but make sure you include some slack. > > Jelbert > On 9 Sep 2008, at 15:05, Evan Daniel wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, bqz69 wrote: > >> I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS > >> minihowto, but I need an important question answered. > >> > >> How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some > >> purpose, add > >> reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet > >> Friends, > >> but is all on his own? > >> > >> This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about > >> adding the > >> very reference node (that I know already) > >> > >> Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find > >> > >> I need it explained in down to earth words? > >> > >> It is a very relevant question I hope. :-) > > > > Short answer: you don't. > > > > Longer answer: the point of the Friends nodes is that the nodes are > > run by people you trust (for some value of trust). In order for that > > to be meaningful, you have to know the person in some context other > > than as a potential person to swap noderefs with. If you only know > > them as someone to swap noderefs with, then it's not particularly more > > or less secure than the automatic Strangers connections -- in either > > case, the people you're connecting to might be Bad Guys in disguise. > > So, in order to add Friends nodes in a manner that actually improves > > your security, you have to find people you know who run freenet -- if > > you don't know any such, then the best thing to do is convince your > > friends to run freenet, and swap noderefs with them. There simply > > isn't a shortcut here; if you want better security than the Strangers > > mode offers, you need to have some non-freenet-based trust in the > > person you're connecting to. (However, there's no requirement that > > you know the person in real life -- online friends who you know from > > another context work fine too.) Exactly how much you need to trust > > the Friends you connect to will depend on your personal situation. > > > > Hope that clears things up... > > > > Evan Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support at freenetproject.org > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080910/3743f3ac/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Wed Sep 10 11:36:34 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:36:34 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Changing ports etc. In-Reply-To: <037f01c911f9$b5a41c90$0a7b0001@deepspace3> References: <8e767170809081412l37bf0b0axce0399d698e1b1b4@mail.gmail.com> <037f01c911f9$b5a41c90$0a7b0001@deepspace3> Message-ID: <200809101236.37276.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Monday 08 September 2008 22:27, Mr. Flibble wrote: > If you're used to 0.5, then 0.7 should be easy. > On the windows version the wizard will sort out things like that, and > afterwards, it's all editable via the web interface. > > Just install it and try it! I'm not sure about that. The wizard doesn't ask about ports, although the installer will use different ports if the defaults are occupied. I don't think the wizard asks about IP addresses; you will have to go to the Configuration page, and then add it in the Node section. > > MrFlibble > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: support-bounces at freenetproject.org > > [mailto:support-bounces at freenetproject.org] On Behalf Of Level 13 > > Sent: 08 September 2008 22:12 > > To: support at freenetproject.org > > Subject: [freenet-support] Changing ports etc. > > > > Is there a short how-to for Freenet 0.7 installation for those who are > > switching from 0.5? Especially I'm looking for info about: > > -how to change the default ports (which are already taken by other > > services on my server, and are not to be used at all), for local > > access as well as the one visible on the outside, > > -where to put the hostname.dyndns.xyz info so that you can be reached > > if you have a dynamic IP? > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The downloads will use a significant amount of > > RAM, the uploads will use a huge amount of RAM. You might like to try to > > db4o branch, although there's a good chance the uploads won't work ... I > > will work on uploads soon... > > > > Does increasing the memory limit help, or is it as high as you can go > > without hitting swap already? > > > > Ok, I set the maximum allocatable memory for java to 1016 MiB. I saw the > actual allocated memory rise to around 1000 Mib once then it dropped and it > is now fluctuating somewhere between 700 Mib and 850 Mib. The node is now > running for 6 hours. The computer is swapping some memory (for the first time > actually ;) ) but that doesn't really hurt the performance. > Maybe if I drop 100 Mib memory it won't use swap anymore but as I don't notice > any significant lost of performance I think I keep it this way. > > Anyway, thanks for the advise. Let me know if this makes it stable. 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Not sure what could have caused the corruption, my node's been > up for a few days, without me restarting the service myself. > Anyway, a couple of hours later and it seems to have fixed itself. > Thanks! Out of disk space, sometimes out of memory, hardware problems, lots of things can cause it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080910/c86f92c0/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Sep 11 16:45:07 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:45:07 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1163 Message-ID: <200809111745.08894.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1163 is now available. Please upgrade, it will be mandatory in a week. Mostly this is internal code cleanups (and a few internal bugfixes), but there are a few user visible changes: - Fixed the first-time wizard, which was having major problems (showing pages with no CSS, showing the CSS instead of the page etc). - Allow 512M and 1G datastore size in the first-time wizard if we don't autodetect the store size, but 2G is still the default in that case. - Make opennet an advanced setting. Now that we have the security levels, a typical user shouldn't need to worry about it. - Longer, clearer page names on the menu. Feedback is strongly encouraged! We will probably move half of them to a submenu at some point in the not too distant future so that the interface is more focused. - Translation updates for German, Spanish and Italian. Thanks to: caco_patane nextgens sdiz toad tommy xor -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The SHA1 of sha1test.jar matches Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore26969.tmp The CA has been imported into the trustStore Fetching update.sh https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/update.sh.sha1 https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/update.sh Downloaded update.sh Your update.sh is up to date Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore26581.tmp The CA has been imported into the trustStore Fetching freenet-stable-latest.jar https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-stable-latest.jar.sha1 https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-stable-latest.jar Downloaded freenet-stable-latest.jar Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore43069.tmp The CA has been imported into the trustStore Fetching freenet-ext.jar https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-ext.jar.sha1 https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-ext.jar Downloaded freenet-ext.jar Your node is up to date. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So I can know exactly when the alert appeared...] -ermanno From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Sep 12 18:30:41 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:30:41 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] update.sh not working In-Reply-To: <48CA1E70.7050504@exactt.de> References: <48CA1E70.7050504@exactt.de> Message-ID: <200809121930.42231.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Friday 12 September 2008 08:46, Max Giesbert wrote: > hi everyone, > > my node is outdated (build 1160). If I manually run ./update.sh in my > freenet directory I get the message that my node is up-to-date. When i > start it I see it is still build 1160. What's wrong here? You need to manually update your update.sh from downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/update/ There was a serious bug in update.sh. > > thx > > > max > > P.S. output of: > > $ ./update.sh > Updating freenet > Created temporary download directory. > The SHA1 of sha1test.jar matches > Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore26969.tmp > The CA has been imported into the trustStore > Fetching update.sh > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/update.sh.sha1 > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/update.sh > Downloaded update.sh > Your update.sh is up to date > Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore26581.tmp > The CA has been imported into the trustStore > Fetching freenet-stable-latest.jar > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-stable-latest.jar.sha1 > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-stable-latest.jar > Downloaded freenet-stable-latest.jar > Importing startssl.pem into /tmp/keystore43069.tmp > The CA has been imported into the trustStore > Fetching freenet-ext.jar > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-ext.jar.sha1 > https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/freenet-ext.jar > Downloaded freenet-ext.jar > Your node is up to date. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The alert stayed on > for several days, until yesterday I ran update.sh. > Note: my node is a seednode. Maybe is seeding preventing the upgrade? > > [could it be useful to add a timestamp to alerts? So I can know > exactly when the alert appeared...] Is it still broken? It seems to work for me, at least with trunk. If it's still broken please send me your wrapper.conf. > > -ermanno -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080912/d8e25227/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Sat Sep 13 19:07:23 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:07:23 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Anyone able to reproduce the firefox bug? Message-ID: <200809132007.36722.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> When we first introduced the firefox profile created by the browse freenet script, a major worry was that occasionally firefox would decide that the Freenet profile is the default. At the time we thought this happened when the user closed the main firefox window without closing the Freenet window first. We still hear from people where this has happened occasionally, more often in the uninstall survey than on IRC. However, I have been unable to reproduce it recently with Iceweasel 2 and Firefox 3, the latter on both Windows. Using firefox -no-remote -P freenet (as we do in the browse script), Firefox never seems to update the last-profile-used information: it only updates it if you use -ProfileManager and explicitly choose a profile. Can anyone easily reproduce this bug? Maybe it's a 1.x bug, or only happened in some alpha/beta versions? Please contact me if you can. If it is still a big deal, I'm fairly sure I have a way to fix it: check profile.ini to see which is the default profile, and if necessary rewrite it (being careful of line endings). But since I'm not able to reproduce the bug, I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to introduce a potentially dangerous untested workaround. Please could anyone who can produce this bug on demand tell me. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Running XP From captainassholee at live.com Mon Sep 15 04:23:43 2008 From: captainassholee at live.com (Martin Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:23:43 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Trouble Starting Node on Installation Message-ID: I try installing from the web on Windows XP Pro, and I get the following: ====================================================================== Registering .fref file extension "Online installation mode" File '.\bin/' already exists. File '.\lib/' already exists. File '.\bin/cat.exe' already exists. File '.\bin/sed.exe' already exists. File '.\bin/wget.exe' already exists. File '.\bin/wrapper-windows-x86-32.exe' already exists. File '.\bin/netuser.exe' already exists. File '.\bin/Ntrights.exe' already exists. File '.\lib/wrapper-windows-x86-32.dll' already exists. Downloading update.cmd Downloading the Opennet seednode file Setting up plugins -JSTUN -MDNSDiscovery -UPnP -XMLLibrarian -KeyExplorer -ThawIndexBrowser Downloading freenet-stable-latest.jar Downloading freenet-ext.jar Downloading the firefox profile Detecting tcp port availability Installing the wrapper - Creating a user for freenet - Hiding the freenet user from the login screen - Tweaking the permissions of the freenet user - Changing file permissions - Registering Freenet as a system service wrapper | Freenet 0.7 darknet-8888 installed. - Start the node up The Freenet 0.7 darknet-8888 service is starting.................................................................................................................................................. The Freenet 0.7 darknet-8888 service could not be started. A system error has occurred. System error 1067 has occurred. The process terminated unexpectedly. All done, please click Next ====================================================================== I've tried installing this "clean" by uninstalling, removing the darknet service, and deleting all the files and directories, and rebooting, but the same error keeps happening. What to do?? _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How did you try to invoke firefox exactly? start/run/firefox.exe -ProfileManager probably won't do anything because it's not on the path... you need to open a terminal and cd to the correct directory, or do start/run/ "< location of firefox.exe >" -ProfileManager. Sorry for all the hassle, we are still looking into finding a better way to deal with this... > > Running XP -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe this is due to it not downloading properly - originally I had to restart my node as it was displaying the "downloading new version" alert for more than a day, and seemed to be getting nowhere. Cheers, MrFlibble From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Sep 16 13:14:24 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:14:24 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1163 In-Reply-To: <0da201c91789$980a4ca0$0a7b0001@deepspace3> References: <200809111745.08894.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> <0da201c91789$980a4ca0$0a7b0001@deepspace3> Message-ID: <200809161414.25458.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 16 September 2008 00:20, Mr. Flibble wrote: > Just had to update manually. > This seems to happen now and again, where sometimes it will update > automatically after I click on the "Update" request, other times it says > it's downloaded it and will restart, and it just restarts with the same > old version. > Maybe this is due to it not downloading properly - originally I had to > restart my node as it was displaying the "downloading new version" alert > for more than a day, and seemed to be getting nowhere. This looks like the same wrapper bug as with the -ext updating. If so, shutting down the node and then starting it back up should fix it. > > Cheers, > > MrFlibble -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080916/3be3a14c/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Thu Sep 18 12:21:18 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:21:18 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1164 Message-ID: <200809181321.28894.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1164 is out. Please let me know if auto-update doesn't work. The main change in 1164 is no-swap-on-opennet. This should greatly reduce location churn on the majority of the network, and in simulations (thanks vive, code will be committed shortly) improves performance in pretty much all scenarios, with different proportions of the network darknet. What this means is that we should hopefully have greatly improved data persistence/reachability, over the coming months, because any node with opennet enabled will have a fixed location; location swapping is really designed for darknet, and will still work on darknet. Also, there is a startup NPE fix, some fixes to announcement and the auto-updater, the security levels defaults and code (if you didn't use the wizard, the settings were inconsistent), various minor optimisations, a plugin interface for n2nm's, and various internal code tidyups and other improvements. The infamous Ubuntu bug in the installer has also been fixed, and work continues on the Web of Trust plugin, and saces' FMSPlugin, which hopefully will evolve into a fully functional web-based FMS interface. Thanks to: batosai nextgens saces sdiz ratchet toad xor -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080918/b24db70f/attachment.pgp From bqz69 at telia.com Sat Sep 20 09:43:03 2008 From: bqz69 at telia.com (bqz69) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:43:03 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Freemail plugin disappears Message-ID: <200809201143.03489.bqz69@telia.com> Just now when started freenet, my freemail plugin had disappeared. Same thing has happened twice for me, when updating FMS (I think that was the reason). From samael6 at ukr.net Fri Sep 12 16:03:48 2008 From: samael6 at ukr.net (Andrew Surzhenko) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:03:48 +0300 Subject: [freenet-support] About Freenet protocol Message-ID: <20080912190348.b22e8bb2.samael6@ukr.net> Hello, I'm a developer from Ukraine. I have to create small Freenet client (file sharing only), but it seems that it is problem to find Freenet protocol specification. Can you tell me, is it closed protocol, or where can I find this specification if it's possible...? Waiting for any news from you. Thank you for your time. 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There should be at least a note in the INSTALL info file. Regards, Pascal From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Sat Sep 20 22:21:01 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:21:01 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] adding cronjob shoud be optional In-Reply-To: <48D3D7FB.9080006@gno.de> References: <48D3D7FB.9080006@gno.de> Message-ID: <200809202321.02169.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Friday 19 September 2008 17:48, Pascal wrote: > Hi, freenet is a nice piece of software, the new installer is really > easy to use, but it tells nothing about whats going on. I installed > freenet with the run.sh script, and after a restart of my old notebook > with 256 MB RAM installed I wondered why there was a java process, > eating all the memory. > > I found that the installer of freenet on Linux installs a cronjob every > time I start the node without questioning. Since the freenet software > uses a lot of system resources, this should be optional. For adequate performance it is necessary for Freenet to run as close to 24x7 as possible. Unfortunately it is unlikely that Freenet will run well on a laptop, as it is likely to roam and have no fixed IP, always be behind fascist NATs, and have very low uptime. We do in fact have a config option in the installer. However it is not very prominent as it is under "Base system". We should move it out to be more visible. > > Moreover, I think, it is not a nice behaviour for an application to > install autostart procedures without asking or even telling the user. > There should be at least a note in the INSTALL info file. There is a note in the README. However you don't have the readme until after you've installed it, so what's the point? > > Regards, > Pascal -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080920/d2194395/attachment.pgp From luke771 at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 22:29:59 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:29:59 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] adding cronjob shoud be optional In-Reply-To: <48D3D7FB.9080006@gno.de> References: <48D3D7FB.9080006@gno.de> Message-ID: <20080921002959.c601281e.luke771@gmail.com> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0200 Pascal wrote: > Hi, freenet is a nice piece of software, the new installer is really > easy to use, but it tells nothing about whats going on. yes it does. Had you read the text that appeared on each step of the wizard instead of clicking your way straight to 'finish', you would have noticed that plugins, autoupgdate and yes, autostart, are enabled by default but can be disabled during the install process by simply unchecking some checkbox. > I installed > freenet with the run.sh script, No you didnt. You probably installed the node with the new_installer.jar The run.sh script is to start the node with the wrapper. >and after a restart of my old notebook > with 256 MB RAM installed I wondered why there was a java process, > eating all the memory. What you mean 'eating all the memory'? If you gave your node a max allowed memory of 256 MB it will try to use that much (and probably cause a crash, on an old laptop with only 265MB of RAM) You were prompted to choose how much memory you wanted to allow your node to use during the first-time wizard. With a 265MB system you probably want to set your node to use 128MB max. You can still change the settings you chose during the first-time wizard: go to the configuration page, scroll down, read what the settings do and change what you need to change. You may also re-run the wizard visiting http://127.0.0.1:8888/wizard > > I found that the installer of freenet on Linux installs a cronjob every > time I start the node without questioning. The installer did ask you whether or not you wanted to install the cron job. There's a checkbox marked 'autostart' or something similar. Once again, you should read therough the install process, not just click away. Anyhow, I guess the cron job can be removed. >Since the freenet software > uses a lot of system resources, this should be optional. It is. The checkbox is checked by default because Freenet should run as much as possible, possibly 24/7. If your idea of freenet is 'start freenet-browse freesites-shut down freenet', you may as well give it up right away: it won't work that way. Freenet needs to stay up. You may want to shut it down when you really need the resources for something else but as soon as you're done you should restart it. The more it stays up the better it will work. > > Moreover, I think, it is not a nice behaviour for an application to > install autostart procedures without asking or even telling the user. It does ask, it does tell. The checkboxs are checked by default but you can uncheck them. Next time you install a program, read the text that appears one each page of the installer, look at the options that are given to you, choose what you want, and THEN lcick 'next'. The user is in full control during the install process, you just failed to notice. You can blame it on our developers if you don't even bother checking out what your options are. Your point about giving the user control during the install process was discussed long ago and the developers did a good job: now the user IS in control. Well, actually, the user was already in control; the difference is that now just about any user is in control no matter how computer illiterate s/he is: the new installer give you all the options with checkboxes and all you have to do is to read what each checkbox does and then check/uncheck according to your own preferences. What do you expect? A mind-reading installer that knows what the user wants and automatically chooses what to install and how? I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit more for that; in the meantime you can READ the options that the current installer gives you. Really. You can even choose the language they're displayed in. > There should be at least a note in the INSTALL info file. Fair enough. Write a new version of the INSTALL file and post it to the dvelopment list devl at freenetproject.org If it's good it will be used. > Regards, > Pascal Thx for the input, hope my answer helped Luke From sich at cafe-philo.net Sun Sep 21 07:35:44 2008 From: sich at cafe-philo.net (sich) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:35:44 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] About Freenet protocol In-Reply-To: <20080912190348.b22e8bb2.samael6@ukr.net> References: <20080912190348.b22e8bb2.samael6@ukr.net> Message-ID: <48D5F950.8000102@cafe-philo.net> Andrew Surzhenko a ?crit : > Hello, > > I'm a developer from Ukraine. > I have to create small Freenet client (file sharing only), but it seems that it is problem to find Freenet protocol specification. > Can you tell me, is it closed protocol, or where can I find this specification if it's possible...? > Waiting for any news from you. > > > Thank you for your time. > > With Best Regards, > Andrew Surzhenko You can look here : http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0 How will you build your client ? The best way I think is to build a new plugin for fproxy. sich From bqz69 at telia.com Sun Sep 21 23:59:00 2008 From: bqz69 at telia.com (bqz69) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:59:00 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] New version of Freenet Minihowto published on http://www.minihowto.org Message-ID: <200809220159.00821.bqz69@telia.com> New version of Freenet Minihowto published on http://www.minihowto.org Please note that on this site you can also learn how to install ubuntu encrypted. Please feel free to publish the site link at your liking From listy at skxpl.eu.org Mon Sep 22 09:44:29 2008 From: listy at skxpl.eu.org (skx) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:44:29 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Autostarting Freenet on FreeBSD server Message-ID: <200809221144.29784.listy@skxpl.eu.org> How can I get Freenet to start when system starts? I tried Freenet_enable="YES" in rc.conf and @reboot entries in crontab but it seems that Freenet starts too early and it is missing dependencies. Then I wrote my own script to run run.sh with a slight delay #! /bin/sh sleep 90 sh /usr/freenet/freenet/run.sh start and put @reboot /usr/freenet/freenet.sh in freenet's crontab but it still doesn't start on boot. I am using FreeBSD 7, have freenet installed in /usr/freenet/freenet and run it as user freenet. It works perfectly well (including binding to port 80 and custom ip address, great piece of software) when run manually. -- skx From fastartc at telus.net Sun Sep 21 02:16:19 2008 From: fastartc at telus.net (Art Charbonneau) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:16:19 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? Message-ID: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080920/7863fc85/attachment.htm From urza9814 at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 21:05:35 2008 From: urza9814 at gmail.com (urza9814 at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:35 -0400 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> References: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> Message-ID: <35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com> Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how Freenet works. On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote: > On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active > even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something > amiss? > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I > can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere? > > Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista. > > Thanks > Gofer > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Get Firefox! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080922/61504acc/attachment.htm From fastartc at telus.net Mon Sep 22 23:56:13 2008 From: fastartc at telus.net (gofer) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? References: 35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com Message-ID: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080922/0759eda9/attachment.htm From apostle at peculiarplace.com Tue Sep 23 03:44:29 2008 From: apostle at peculiarplace.com (Edward Langenback) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:44:29 -0500 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> <35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D8661D.8060106@peculiarplace.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: > Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how > Freenet works. > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau > wrote: > snip > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item > 'Tools', so I can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this > somewhere? I've also noticed a lack of, among other things, the tools menu on the 0.7 firefox profile. 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X / \ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSNhmHXV+YnyE1GYEAQh1tAgAl65nxMKBjyR6UKte30fo8g4mTAruGn3c en4BhwhzTlt6p6saLmcVfNuzZFiIZzIezf42QK48jVPfqaZEPditUDI+N7CyLGny 4c/rbrIYceVFzJ3bq07yrfOZJ5NKOf7mPah/kf99I8xpyE3G+EeER2ksnf8ek7QU /TnlpuyfJ5NSrlurW8cLO/8hyS5ISBX3v9d1C7Uhd/T8EVU8QxEDMAVm+2imWhbP WjDmKhZ60C0Z2k7gEESjzfhvkxOkv7ZXgAG2IJ8JJ/+fBM7/z7vapWUV61sO4/ak rvIpMd6G43ZoyMAbhV2YfWtbnA3HsLbUfPQtM5us/cK5KT5haXdn3Q== =KlEV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 04:03:13 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:03:13 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> References: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> Message-ID: <20080923060313.0cd2c4ff.luke771@gmail.com> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:16:19 -0700 Art Charbonneau wrote: > On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something amiss? You sure you didnt start the uploads from another app, like Thaw? -- From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 04:08:11 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:08:11 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> <35af28770809221405i37b630aax9957624f5c60046d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080923060811.9dd23f0a.luke771@gmail.com> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:35 -0400 urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: >On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote: >> On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active >> even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something >> amiss? > Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how > Freenet works. No it's not. I've been using freenet for years and I never heard about other people'd download showing up as uploads in your freenet page (why should they? They're not downloading from you as they would on say eMule) If those uploades are queued, somebody or something added them to the queue. What probably happened is that the uploads were initiated in Thaw or Frost. -- FAFS - The Freenet Applications FreeSite USK at ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/27/ freemail: luke771 at MJWEES3VJBMS2ZKMIJUECT3SJB3UK5SBKBAVQYJQO5FXGWSROE2USNDKNMZU2SK2ORXUKLDZJYWXQUSNMRYUCWD6IF3HAULWKRKWW2SJJVEGQQTDNNKGYMRWKFZW6V3ONNIDKQ3DKR3SYQKRIFBUCQKF.freemail From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 04:29:10 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:29:10 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> References: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> Message-ID: <20080923062910.827f40e9.luke771@gmail.com> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700 gofer wrote: > My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably >Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring Requests'. Ah, that's what you meant? I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my answer to the other thread you initiated. >I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'. Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we often refer to as an upload. > So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing? Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet. An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident from the contest (if not, just ask) > > Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other folders on my computer 'shared'? Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using your node as a transit point along a route. NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't really understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS). -- FAFS - The Freenet Applications FreeSite USK at ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/27/ freemail: luke771 at MJWEES3VJBMS2ZKMIJUECT3SJB3UK5SBKBAVQYJQO5FXGWSROE2USNDKNMZU2SK2ORXUKLDZJYWXQUSNMRYUCWD6IF3HAULWKRKWW2SJJVEGQQTDNNKGYMRWKFZW6V3ONNIDKQ3DKR3SYQKRIFBUCQKF.freemail From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Sep 23 13:54:13 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:54:13 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> References: <48D5AE73.50400@telus.net> Message-ID: <200809231454.14319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:16, Art Charbonneau wrote: > On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something amiss? > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere? They should already be disabled. > > Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista. > > Thanks > Gofer > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20080923062910.827f40e9.luke771@gmail.com> References: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> <20080923062910.827f40e9.luke771@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809231456.23880.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:29, Luke771 wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700 > gofer wrote: > > > My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. > > for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably > > >Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring Requests'. > > Ah, that's what you meant? > I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page > If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my answer to the other thread you initiated. > > >I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'. > > Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we often refer to as an upload. > > > So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing? > > Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet. > > An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident from the contest (if not, just ask) > > > > > Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other folders on my computer 'shared'? > > Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using your node as a transit point along a route. > > > NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't really understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS). And most of it is. :) There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* inserts, being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking about high level inserts originated by you. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is not a closed protocol, but it is continually evolving and not well documented. I don't believe that rewriting Freenet in C (or assembler for that matter) would dramatically improve performance, and a pure client will probably not be well integrated into the network i.e. be slow. Your best bet is probably to work on Freenet itself and then build a nice filesharing GUI (which can be proprietary if you need it to be), and bundle Freenet with it. > > Thank you for your time. > > With Best Regards, > Andrew Surzhenko > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080923/0c030066/attachment.pgp From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 23:36:43 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:36:43 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <200809231456.23880.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> <20080923062910.827f40e9.luke771@gmail.com> <200809231456.23880.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20080924013643.667055c2.luke771@gmail.com> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100 Matthew Toseland wrote: >> . I 'think' I have understood >> some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until >> someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS). > > And most of it is. :) > > There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* inserts, > being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking > about high level inserts originated by you. Well that's pretty much what I said, so why BS? Look, you say two opposite things in that last sentence: 1 - there is no difference, and 2 - insert originate by you, upload go through your PC (some of them may be originate by you?) I was saying #2 without #1. -- FAFS - The Freenet Applications FreeSite USK at ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/27/ freemail: luke771 at MJWEES3VJBMS2ZKMIJUECT3SJB3UK5SBKBAVQYJQO5FXGWSROE2USNDKNMZU2SK2ORXUKLDZJYWXQUSNMRYUCWD6IF3HAULWKRKWW2SJJVEGQQTDNNKGYMRWKFZW6V3ONNIDKQ3DKR3SYQKRIFBUCQKF.freemail From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 23:42:01 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:42:01 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <200809231456.23880.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <48D8309D.2040104@telus.net> <20080923062910.827f40e9.luke771@gmail.com> <200809231456.23880.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20080924014201.896fe7ac.luke771@gmail.com> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100 Matthew Toseland wrote: > There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* inserts, > being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking > about high level inserts originated by you. OK, disregard my previous message, I finally realized the sense of Toad's answer. I had added that 'insert' vs. 'upload' distintion that I had made up. The UL/DL page is only abouot insert (or uploads) originated by you, while the stats page is about inserts (or uploads) that your node uploads, no matter who originate them, but calling the former 'inserts' and the latter 'uploads' is bogus. (it is right now, but it could be an idea) -- FAFS - The Freenet Applications FreeSite USK at ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/27/ freemail: luke771 at MJWEES3VJBMS2ZKMIJUECT3SJB3UK5SBKBAVQYJQO5FXGWSROE2USNDKNMZU2SK2ORXUKLDZJYWXQUSNMRYUCWD6IF3HAULWKRKWW2SJJVEGQQTDNNKGYMRWKFZW6V3ONNIDKQ3DKR3SYQKRIFBUCQKF.freemail From fastartc at telus.net Wed Sep 24 15:56:03 2008 From: fastartc at telus.net (gofer) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:56:03 -0700 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? References: 200809231454.14319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org Message-ID: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080924/0a4c6b38/attachment.htm From apostle at peculiarplace.com Wed Sep 24 16:36:24 2008 From: apostle at peculiarplace.com (Edward Langenback) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:36:24 -0500 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> References: 200809231454.14319.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> Message-ID: <48DA6C88.7070502@peculiarplace.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 gofer wrote: > On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> > >> > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item > 'Tools', so I >> can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere? >> >> They should already be disabled. >> > > > Thanks for the reply, Matthew. > > Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled ...but history is not. All my > recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I > occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then > select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled > entirely. How do I do that? > > gofer > > I appreciate the idea that a secure profile is provided for freenet browsing but I don't get why various menu options have been disabled. Thus my question remains: Why have they been disabled and how can I turn the FULL toolbar back on? 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X / \ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBSNpsiHV+YnyE1GYEAQg1cgf/VKHZGanSi+pD0P/I+JjDSDans4eD/KXq rpNL56+mgQ0CmC25S/rede0suQ3QUiwGqa3gnXFBy969jzp25R9UcrAXdC6XK1Ro c9kwmeYy8oU62JpYIlm8LvlH66LBv55BR7AMJtYXux+mlxSsAXqYpZW1N7EpAFSy kmnXurqs8Q1Us1sDvhXsFuwqRD+7kIKCny6z/WRgUw/ISDASm93FR6rNHgq2GjCT DMwegQMlIamSHzTk0UJAjV0XRrMWqogQxbrWi1VDxTTatGVcswrY2omDU90kVn1z lwOzfpw85Dqd5UmlMTedIo0a61hVv6H99KmFbvgBS1nBwpuZznvgnQ== =ZVUR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Sep 26 12:13:12 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:13:12 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1165 Message-ID: <200809261313.24651.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> Freenet 0.7 build 1165 is now available. Please let me know if the auto-update doesn't fetch it, I will insert it soon (but feel free to update manually first and report bugs!). Changes include: - Hard bandwidth limiting for *all* packets, and fairer scheduling between peers and between transfers. This should mean Freenet 1) never uses much more than the outgoing bandwidth limit, and 2) doesn't waste all its bandwidth/time constantly resending packets to a single peer, to the exclusion of all others. - ipAddressOverride fixes: NPE on startup, DNS name not appearing in noderefs. - Various minor improvements to the web interface. - Various improvements to the salted hash store: Much faster maintenance (bloom filter rebuilding), change format to a single .hd file for both headers and data (sorry, this will be the last such change; automigration is in place but may use significant disk especially on Windows; it saves us a seek, which is a big deal), preallocate storage filled with random data (on Windows or Mac this costs us nothing except a bit of CPU; on *nix arguably it's overkill, it's turned off on *nix if physical security is LOW). - Hopefully fix bug #2582 (accumulating CHK offer replies causing the node's performance to collapse). Other recent goings on in SVN include: - Fixing a major bug in the Browse Freenet script (browse.cmd) on Windows, which was causing it not to work at all. - Make auto-start a top level option in the installer, but explain why it's a good idea. - Various improvements to the website. - Lots more work on the Web of Trust plugin by batosai and xor (saces is working on the FMS plugin). - Merged recent stable builds back into the db4o branch. It should work now, but I'll merge 1165 into it, and then post a jar for wider testing. Please pass this on to FMS, I'm not using FMS at the moment: I have heard various reports of it crashing, which suggests buffer overflows, the version I was using was too old to communicate now anyway, and I don't have time to review 0.3. Sadly saces' plugin isn't a fully functional FMS replacement yet. Thanks to: luke771 toad tommy sdiz smar xor yongjhen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080926/0af3a678/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Fri Sep 26 12:22:47 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:22:47 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> References: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> Message-ID: <200809261322.47684.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote: > On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I > > can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere? > > > > They should already be disabled. > > > > > Thanks for the reply, Matthew. > > Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled? ...but history is not. All my recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do that? Filed bug for history not disabled: https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2644 > > gofer > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080926/cb756125/attachment.pgp From holtrop at xs4all.nl Tue Sep 30 09:26:04 2008 From: holtrop at xs4all.nl (Jelbert Holtrop) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:04 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] thaw Message-ID: <4206E11C-A92C-4297-8E2F-358442D6E16A@xs4all.nl> Hi all, I'm looking for Thaw. on USK at TIIZD-axvwg68FnLojP~c- G~nW4SBUo7Aj0cRUBNK2A,JB8a9cI4zsY7Zrgh84~NXHKQwDB1bADEY6VE9umf7- Y,AQACAAE/thaw-howto/1/ I read that Thaw.jar should be in het freenet directory. However the file is not there. I use a mac and seached for it using finder and locate in the terminal: noname:freenet jp$ locate Thaw /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.8/MLDBM/Serializer/FreezeThaw.pm noname:freenet jp$ im running: Freenet 0.7 Build #1165 r22843M Freenet-ext Build #22 r22506 The solution is probably very simple but somehow I cant find it. Can you help me? Greetings, Jelbert From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Sep 30 10:55:07 2008 From: bqz69 at telia.com (bqz69) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:55:07 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] thaw In-Reply-To: <4206E11C-A92C-4297-8E2F-358442D6E16A@xs4all.nl> References: <4206E11C-A92C-4297-8E2F-358442D6E16A@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <200809301255.07572.bqz69@telia.com> On Tuesday 30 September 2008 11.26.04 Jelbert Holtrop wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for Thaw. on USK at TIIZD-axvwg68FnLojP~c- > G~nW4SBUo7Aj0cRUBNK2A,JB8a9cI4zsY7Zrgh84~NXHKQwDB1bADEY6VE9umf7- > Y,AQACAAE/thaw-howto/1/ I read that Thaw.jar should be in het freenet > directory. However the file is not there. I use a mac and seached for > it using finder and locate in the terminal: > > noname:freenet jp$ locate Thaw > /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.8/MLDBM/Serializer/FreezeThaw.pm > noname:freenet jp$ > > im running: > Freenet 0.7 Build #1165 r22843M > Freenet-ext Build #22 r22506 > > The solution is probably very simple but somehow I cant find it. Can > you help me? > Greetings, > > Jelbert > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or > mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe http://127.0.0.1:8888 -> choose second last link "The Freenet Applications Freesite" -> "Thaw Basics" -> "Getting Thaw" From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue Sep 30 18:23:37 2008 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:23:37 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload? In-Reply-To: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> References: <48DA6313.3090201@telus.net> Message-ID: <200809301923.42558.toad@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote: > On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I > > can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere? > > > > They should already be disabled. > > > > > Thanks for the reply, Matthew. > > Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled? ...but history is not. All my recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do that? This has recently been fixed. New copies of the installer will turn off history. > > gofer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20080930/1c65c3e0/attachment.pgp From luke771 at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 21:53:29 2008 From: luke771 at gmail.com (Luke771) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:53:29 +0200 Subject: [freenet-support] thaw In-Reply-To: <4206E11C-A92C-4297-8E2F-358442D6E16A@xs4all.nl> References: <4206E11C-A92C-4297-8E2F-358442D6E16A@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20080930235329.1bea88fb.luke771@gmail.com> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:26:04 +0200 Jelbert Holtrop wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for Thaw. on USK at TIIZD-axvwg68FnLojP~c- > G~nW4SBUo7Aj0cRUBNK2A,JB8a9cI4zsY7Zrgh84~NXHKQwDB1bADEY6VE9umf7- > Y,AQACAAE/thaw-howto/1/ I read that Thaw.jar should be in het freenet > directory. However the file is not there. I use a mac and seached for > it using finder and locate in the terminal: > > noname:freenet jp$ locate Thaw > /System/Library/Perl/Extras/5.8.8/MLDBM/Serializer/FreezeThaw.pm > noname:freenet jp$ > > im running: > Freenet 0.7 Build #1165 r22843M > Freenet-ext Build #22 r22506 > > The solution is probably very simple but somehow I cant find it. Can > you help me? > Greetings, > > Jelbert > Simple indeed: that howto is outdated. Thaw is not bundled with Freenet any more. You can download Thaw from the Freenet website at this address: http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/Thaw/Thaw.jar <==Official download, recommended Or, you can download it anonymously from Freenet, but that's an unoffical download that you can only trust as much as you trust the uploader (that would be me) CHK at QBWNlqisjhnijDewFxL5xnYjpEi09KSm7hEdYPFWomQ,1FBWXDAWJ98PBLBPu8uSxO0Zc2dpiyE8mfYi6nWDko0,AAIC--8/Thaw.jar -- FAFS - The Freenet Applications FreeSite USK at ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/36/ freemail: luke771 at MJWEES3VJBMS2ZKMIJUECT3SJB3UK5SBKBAVQYJQO5FXGWSROE2USNDKNMZU2SK2ORXUKLDZJYWXQUSNMRYUCWD6IF3HAULWKRKWW2SJJVEGQQTDNNKGYMRWKFZW6V3ONNIDKQ3DKR3SYQKRIFBUCQKF.freemail