From cybergothiclove at gmail.com Fri Jan 5 12:31:51 2007 From: cybergothiclove at gmail.com (Shawn Bush) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:31:51 -0500 Subject: [freenet-chat] Freenet Message-ID: <459E4537.2050206@gmail.com> Freenet seemed t work okay, but irc.freenode.net isn't working, so I couldn't get my client to link with the Freenet network... It worked alot better back when it connected to a server to get people to access Freenet. Sommopfle PS - I would love to use Freenet, but couldn't find anyone to connect into the Darknet. From nextgens at freenetproject.org Sun Jan 7 10:16:18 2007 From: nextgens at freenetproject.org (Florent =?iso-8859-1?Q?Daigni=E8re_=28NextGen$=29?=) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:16:18 +0100 Subject: [freenet-chat] Freenet In-Reply-To: <459E4537.2050206@gmail.com> References: <459E4537.2050206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070107101618.GA4015@freenetproject.org> * Shawn Bush [2007-01-05 07:31:51]: > Freenet seemed t work okay, but irc.freenode.net isn't working, so I > couldn't get my client to link with the Freenet network... Works for me ... what doesn't work exactly ? > It worked alot better back when it connected to a server to get people > to access Freenet. Hmmm ... How can you know if you haven't even been connected to the network ? > > Sommopfle > > PS - I would love to use Freenet, but couldn't find anyone to connect > into the Darknet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/chat/attachments/20070109/93b94123/attachment.pgp From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Mon Jan 15 20:21:15 2007 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:21:15 +0000 Subject: [freenet-chat] Finding refs In-Reply-To: <009b01c72a14$7dbd9f00$6401a8c0@oldfaithful> References: <458DA38C.3090300@cogeco.ca> <009b01c72a14$7dbd9f00$6401a8c0@oldfaithful> Message-ID: <20070115202115.GA27930@amphibian.dyndns.org> On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 07:09:48PM -0500, vinyl1 wrote: > While the darknet is what they're testing right now, as I understand it, the > intent is to have an opennet version eventually. > > People in countries where Freenet is legal will be able to connect via > opennet, while others can use the darknet. Hopefully a lot of people in countries where Freenet is legal will also use the darknet, for several reasons: 1. To help the darknet in places where it is illegal. 2. To build a darknet for the inevitable point when it becomes illegal in their countries. 3. For privacy's sake; a true darknet (where you only connect to your friends) is far more secure than an opennet. > Those using darknet will not be > detectable by the authorities. > > But there are many stages of testing to be gone through before this can > happen. > > I'm sure Matthew and/or Ian will chime in if I'm wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 4:45 PM > Subject: [freenet-chat] Finding refs > > > > Having to find and install an IRC package just to connect once to the > > freenet channel for refs is a pain in the ass - so hopefully this list > > will prove useful for that purpose (I have also read where others have > > found little luck getting refs using the IRC channel, even when there > > are many people in the channel). > > > > To be honest, this ref system is a rather tricky and cumbersome system, > > and arguably is rather irrelevant. I mean, is it any more > > secure/safe/better/etc for me to have to put out a mass call for people > > I don't know to ref me, or to simply have the system establish > > connections at random? I don't see the difference. > > > > In any event -- does anyone want to trade refs? If so, please email me > > directly at drriley at cogeco.ca > > > > P.S. Any comments on the benefits (if any) of using the freenet system > > over using Tor/Privoxy? > > _______________________________________________ > > chat mailing list > > chat at freenetproject.org > > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > > Or mailto:chat-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > chat mailing list > chat at freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:chat-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/chat/attachments/20070115/3b99ffc9/attachment.pgp From benedikt at schnutenhund.de Mon Jan 15 22:41:24 2007 From: benedikt at schnutenhund.de (Benedikt Klees) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:41:24 +0100 Subject: [freenet-chat] Finding refs In-Reply-To: <20070115202115.GA27930@amphibian.dyndns.org> References: <458DA38C.3090300@cogeco.ca> <009b01c72a14$7dbd9f00$6401a8c0@oldfaithful> <20070115202115.GA27930@amphibian.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1311988482.20070115234124@schnutenhund.de> Hi, > 3. For privacy's sake; a true darknet (where you only connect to your > friends) is far more secure than an opennet. and this is what I do not understand. How do I make friends, when I have no way to communicate? As long as I don't know anyone that runs a node I have to peer with foreign nodes. Isn't that a way to attack the freenet by trying to make this first contact to unknown nodes impossible? Regards Benedikt From sitharus at sitharus.com Mon Jan 15 22:51:08 2007 From: sitharus at sitharus.com (Phillip Hutchings) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:51:08 +1300 Subject: [freenet-chat] Finding refs In-Reply-To: <1311988482.20070115234124@schnutenhund.de> References: <458DA38C.3090300@cogeco.ca> <009b01c72a14$7dbd9f00$6401a8c0@oldfaithful> <20070115202115.GA27930@amphibian.dyndns.org> <1311988482.20070115234124@schnutenhund.de> Message-ID: On 1/16/07, Benedikt Klees wrote: > Hi, > > > 3. For privacy's sake; a true darknet (where you only connect to your > > friends) is far more secure than an opennet. > > and this is what I do not understand. How do I make friends, when I > have no way to communicate? > As long as I don't know anyone that runs a node I have to peer with > foreign nodes. Isn't that a way to attack the freenet by trying to > make this first contact to unknown nodes impossible? You make friends outside freenet. It is a chicken/egg problem if you don't have an existing network, which is why we have the opennet - people join the opennet, find people with similar interests and then start moving to the darknet. The important thing is people you know in real life are more trustworthy than those who you don't know at all. Plus if you've defined the connections you're more likely to notice patterns, such as law enforcement trying to become your only peer. -- Phillip Hutchings http://www.sitharus.com/ From bridge0507_1 at ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU.panta-rhei.eu.org Wed Jan 31 21:10:26 2007 From: bridge0507_1 at ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU.panta-rhei.eu.org (bridge0507_1 at ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU.panta-rhei.eu.org) Date: 31 Jan 2007 21:10:26 -0000 Subject: [freenet-chat] Freenet source and the GPL Message-ID: 'Anonymous' on freenet thinks I'm a troll, however My question about freenet source availability is genuinely sincere. Aside from that, I gotta admit that "Boob Routing" sure sounds appealing! > ----- bridge0507_1 at ufaMAQJPPswIdhaO_YUiPBCY1lU ----- 2007.01.30 - 14:22:10GMT ----- > > What I find interesting is that all this backandforth flap about freenet source and it's availability is that I have not yet seen one word about it by Toad or Ian. Where do they stand on this? > > Why can't each release have an accompanying source tarball? Is not their subversion thingy capable of providing this? If it is not, then I suggest that it's broken by design (or the lack thereof). > > ----- Anonymous ----- 2007.01.30 - 14:59:13GMT ----- > > Ian (sanity) and Matthew (toad) have better things to do than to read Frost messages written by trolls. > > ----- Anonymous ----- 2007.01.30 - 20:28:51GMT ----- > > Like nothing. > > ----- Anonymous ----- 2007.01.30 - 21:21:16GMT ----- > > Not true, they are off on sabbatical at the titty bar with Freenet donation money to meticulously plan the 'theoretical foundations' of the 0.7 network between lap dances. > > ----- Anonymous ----- 2007.01.30 - 22:40:07GMT ----- > > a) It's a new design called "Boob Routing". > b) Ian is gay. > > ----- Hahahaha at LsMVnhN_BvN2ybL7Wt_cf_MUIvg ----- 2007.01.31 - 01:39:02GMT ----- > > ROTFLMAO!!!!! -- "An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great nation. 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