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[0:03] <sanity_> I don't see why we need any images. if it weren't for the original and now obsolete motivation for activelinks, we'd never even consider it
[0:04] <toad_> sanity_: don't links often have images?
[0:08] <sanity_> occasionally, not often
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[0:12] <batosai> sanity_: bookmark does, and people are used to them
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[0:12] <sanity_> batosai: these aren't bookmarks, they are hyperlinks
[0:12] <sanity_> if they want to bookmark the pages then their browser provides that functionality already
[0:13] <batosai> makes sense
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[0:25] * toad_ apologises to Dieppe, sanity_ and batosai, /me is trying to turn pmpp's project into something feasible
[0:26] <batosai> toad_: then you don't have anything to apologize for ;)
[0:26] <toad_> :)
[0:27] <Dieppe> toad_: don't apologize, the reading is quite informative :)
[0:27] <Dieppe> (and then interesting)
[0:28] <toad_> :)
[0:28] <Dieppe> lol
[0:29] <Dieppe> when I talk to pmpp, that's exactly the response I get :p
[0:31] <toad_> hmm?
[0:33] <Dieppe> I said something to pmpp to an another channel like 10 min ago, and he answered me : :)
[0:33] <Dieppe> just like you...
[0:34] <Dieppe> ok, it's not fun when explained (especially when bad explained...), but it's quite fun to see :p
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[1:14] <thesnark> Anybody want to share cool or interesting USKs?
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[2:43] <mib_gbx72j> Somewhat off topic, but I'm curious if anyone might be able to suggest a place to look-
[2:43] <mib_gbx72j> I'm looking for an image-bashed hashing package.. Something that can generate a digital fingerprint for an image.
[2:43] <mib_gbx72j> There's a lot of research on it.. But I haven't seen many pre-existing packages ;(
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[3:40] <pmpp> mib_gbx72j> google for gift (gnu image find tool perl+c) and isk-daemon( imgseek python+c)
[3:45] <mib_gbx72j> Thanks, pmpp!
[3:47] <mib_gbx72j> The server version of ImgSeek seems perfect!
[3:47] <pmpp> well but gift is more lib oriented
[3:47] <pmpp> and web oriented
[3:47] <pmpp> http://viper.unige.ch/demo/php/demo.php
[3:50] <mib_gbx72j> Hrmm.. That's not ideal. The viper demo won't load for me, but I'll certainly read the docs.
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[9:00] <osh__> Cooo: Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
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[10:38] <nextgens> hi
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[16:39] <Luke771> THE-Apophis: around?
[16:39] <THE-Apophis> yes Luke771
[16:40] <Luke771> you probably remember me as ph00
[16:40] <Luke771> anyhow
[16:40] <Luke771> is that publicly accessible node still working?
[16:41] <THE-Apophis> I was gone for half a year and I shut it down before that
[16:42] <Luke771> hm that would explain why I couldnt find it
[16:42] <Luke771> are you going to start it again?
[16:42] <THE-Apophis> and at the moment I have problems to even run the normal local node, which insists that there is no connection to another node
[16:42] <THE-Apophis> I havent decided yet... maybe... should I?
[16:42] <Luke771> (really 11/2 year?!? man!)
[16:42] <Luke771> yes you should
[16:43] <nextgens> Luke771> no; we don't want gateways
[16:43] <Luke771> a publically accessible node to show people freenet content before they install freenet is good
[16:43] <Luke771> nextgens: why not?
[16:43] <THE-Apophis> oh yeah the nextgens-effekt ;)
[16:43] <nextgens> Luke771> because it's not what freenet is about
[16:44] <nextgens> we need the network to grow; we don't need people accessing it through gateways
[16:44] <Luke771> right
[16:45] <Luke771> but my idea was that some limited gateways could act as shop-windows
[16:45] <nextgens> and on top of that we don't want uber-nodes (something gateways have to be to provide decent performances)
[16:45] <nextgens> your idea is bad :p
[16:45] <Luke771> when accessing freenet content through someone's gateway you wouldn't be anonymous and you'd be warned about that, it's kinda like a preview
[16:45] <nextgens> gateways behaving like normal nodes will suck because they will have to serve much more requests
[16:45] <nextgens> and uber-nodes aren't something we want
[16:45] <nextgens> so exit the idea of gateways
[16:45] <Luke771> ok, that makes sense
[16:46] <Luke771> the ubernodes thing
[16:46] <nextgens> Luke771> a slow preview if the node is behaving like others
[16:46] <nextgens> in any case not something we want.
[16:46] <Luke771> I can't come up with a way of offering preview without ubernodes
[16:47] <Luke771> so maybe better drop the whole thing as you say
[16:47] <Luke771> what could be done is off-line previews, with screenshots etc
[16:48] <Luke771> not real preview, doesnt involve ubernodes, doesnt provide access, only a teaser
[16:48] <nextgens> do a screencast.
[16:48] <THE-Apophis> well if nextgens is here... why is my node not connecting? I have /normal/normal/low settings
[16:48] <THE-Apophis> and open net worked in the past...
[16:49] <nextgens> dunno but your logfiles might
[16:54] <THE-Apophis> maybe i am missing a seedfile? ... must I do something for that? or should it be done automatically?
[16:56] <nextgens> if you used the installer it should be there
[16:59] <THE-Apophis> yeah but 6 months old... probably no one left on it
[17:00] <kork> Store Cache
[17:00] <kork> Keys 63,267 460,333
[17:00] <kork> Capacity 460,332 460,333
[17:00] <kork> this means my cache is full, right? so it won't grow any larger
[17:00] <nextgens> yeah
[17:00] <kork> hm :| there's lots of disk space left. how come it filled up?
[17:00] <nextgens> THE-Apophis> download a fresh version then
[17:00] <kork> is there a way to increase the capacity?
[17:01] <nextgens> sure but the process takes time
[17:01] <kork> database reorganization I assume
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[17:09] <THE-Apophis> nextgens, I probably just reinstall it :P its probably faster than finding the url
[17:10] <kork> THE-Apophis: http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/opennet/seednodes.fref
[17:10] <THE-Apophis> ty
[17:11] <nextgens> THE-Apophis> now I remember why I wasn't missing you
[17:11] <kork> xD
[17:11] <THE-Apophis> nextgens, my pleasure
[17:12] <toad_> THE-Apophis: you probably need to reinstall or at least manually update
[17:12] <kork> toad_: look at my last few lines in #freenet-chat :D
[17:12] <THE-Apophis> I did a manual update before even trying =)
[17:12] <THE-Apophis> ty
[17:13] <toad_> THE-Apophis: there have been some bugs in update.sh/update.cmd
[17:13] <THE-Apophis> yeah ok, I try with the new seednodes and if its not working I start from scratch
[17:13] <THE-Apophis> ty
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[17:22] <toad_> anyone here able to build firefox themes?
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[19:40] <p0s> 1163 seems borked:
[19:40] <p0s> Output Rate: 4.91 KiB/sec (of 100 KiB)
[19:40] <p0s> Total Output: 2.67 GiB (17.6 KiB/sec)
[19:40] <p0s> preemptive rejection: 121243 Output bandwidth liability
[19:41] <p0s> doesnt use the available bandwidth. 1162 did.
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[20:59] <ordex> nextgens: u there?
[21:00] <ordex> i got a strange problem
[21:01] <ordex> .-.
[21:02] <ordex> resolved :P
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