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[2:37] <Luke771> whiiiirrrr....whhiiiiiiirrrr .....whiiiirrr........
[2:37] <Luke771> stupiditi alarm
[2:37] <Luke771> y
[2:37] <Luke771> i can't figure out a thing I have to put in the translation
[2:38] <Luke771> "Security level": Physical: what it 'physical? the sceurity or the level? (I need to understand this because it would be declined differently as the two names have different 'gender'... problems of the languages based on Latin)
[2:40] <Luke771> I guess it would be a level of physical security, not security at a physcal level?
[2:42] <Luke771> yes it would mean pretty much the same thing, I can't really explain what the problem is in English...
[2:48] <Luke771> ah, never mind, I'll take the one that sounds best ("psysical level of scurity")
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[4:21] <Luke771> those new 'security levels' strings are a LOT
[4:21] <Luke771> and long too
[4:21] <Luke771> I'm almost done, tho.
[4:21] <Luke771> possibly later today or tomorrow
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[9:40] <zerwas> It looks like the selfupdate of Freenet does not work properly on my system. Or at least it takes much longer than it should take
[9:47] <nextgens> zerwas> do you have anything queued? if so, what priority are running the requests at?
[9:48] <zerwas> nextgens, nothing queued
[9:49] <nextgens> how long did it take to update?
[9:49] <zerwas> it has not yet updated. (it is running since 4 hours with the message that the node will restart soon because it is updating)
[9:51] <zerwas> i did update.sh now but the message, that freenet is downloading a new version remains
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[9:58] <nextgens> most of my peers have updated here
[9:58] <nextgens> apparently successfully
[9:59] <Cooo> Update was successfull for me too.
[10:01] <nextgens> with or without UoM?
[10:01] <nextgens> did you get a line with SHOULD in wrapper.log?
[10:04] <Cooo> No line with SHOULD
[10:07] <nextgens> cool
[10:11] <Cooo> So it worked for me atleast, Dunno why zerwas has problems though
[10:12] <TheSeeker> Is the salted hash store branch is obsolete now? Can I remove the project and free up some disk space?
[10:19] <nextgens> it's not obsolete, it has been merged
[10:20] <nextgens> just svn switch your working copy
[10:21] <TheSeeker> what's the point of maintaining both trunk AND a salted hash store directory when they point at the same location?
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[10:24] <ordex> hi men
[10:25] <ordex> anyone could explain me what the testdda is?
[10:25] <TheSeeker> tests for direct disk access permissions?
[10:25] <ordex> probably
[10:25] <ordex> but how could i do it?
[10:25] <ordex> frost tell me that probably i should do it
[10:25] <ordex> but dunno how
[10:26] <TheSeeker> http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FCP2p0TestDDARequest
[10:26] <ordex> thank you
[10:26] <TheSeeker> that's fcp
[10:27] <TheSeeker> if you're just a end user, then make sure what ever directory you have set to download to, you have write permissions for
[10:28] <ordex> mh ok
[10:28] <TheSeeker> and set up your node to assume direct disk access and allow access to that directory (or all directories)
[10:28] <ordex> ah ok
[10:28] <ordex> i'm going to check
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[10:30] <ordex> thank you a lot for your explanation ;)
[10:30] <TheSeeker> under the advanced config page: "Directories downloading is allowed to"
[10:31] <nextgens> NO
[10:31] <nextgens> TheSeeker> don't tell users to do that
[10:31] <ordex> which is the negative side of this?
[10:31] <nextgens> if the dda check fails it's because there is a good reason for it to
[10:31] <nextgens> or a bug but in any case disabling it is not the way to go
[10:32] <TheSeeker> dierctory permissions should be set on the OS level, freenet shouldn't have to babysit there.
[10:32] <nextgens> ordex> first of all, are you running the node on the same PC than frost?
[10:32] <ordex> yes
[10:32] <ordex> but with different user
[10:33] <ordex> so freenet directory are not accesible from frost user
[10:33] <nextgens> TheSeeker> it's not babysiting it's multi-user-coherence
[10:33] <nextgens> okay
[10:33] <nextgens> well, that's not a big deal
[10:33] <nextgens> what you need here is the other way around;
[10:34] <ordex> mh
[10:34] <nextgens> you need freenet's user to be able to access the files/directories you want it to have access to
[10:34] <nextgens> they are 4 settings related to that on the config page
[10:34] <ordex> yeah
[10:34] * nextgens suggests you have a look there
[10:35] <ordex> i'm looking :D
[10:35] <ordex> but the directories that i set in freenet config are accesible to freenet user
[10:35] <ordex> infact freenet has no trouble
[10:35] <nextgens> well, pastebin the FCP exchange with frost if you want me to have alook
[10:36] <nextgens> it should say what the problem is
[10:36] <ordex> ok
[10:37] <ordex> http://rafb.net/p/zyTVVX31.html
[10:38] <ordex> mh
[10:38] <ordex> the file indicated in the message does not exist
[10:38] <ordex> is it possible that it was an old downloaded file that has been deleted?
[10:39] <nextgens> hmm
[10:39] <nextgens> in fact I'm not even sure that frost implements testdda
[10:39] <nextgens> saces> does it?
[10:40] <nextgens> ordex> as a temporary, clean workaround, you can disable DDA
[10:40] <nextgens> (that's a setting in frost)
[10:40] <ordex> you think it is better? or could i try to use frost to see any eventual error messages?
[10:42] <nextgens> just disable it untill you see a confirmation from saces that it handles testdda :)
[10:43] <ordex> ok XD
[10:51] <ordex> i used frost justa few times
[10:51] <ordex> is it normal that a message wait in outbox for a lot?
[10:52] <nextgens> yes, it won't be sent until the board has been refreshed
[10:52] <TheSeeker> frost is still getting hammered by broken message spam :/
[10:53] <ordex> and how to look for other boards?
[10:53] <TheSeeker> According to the Frost Stats posts. tens of thousands of broken messages per week, with nearly all boards with any activity being hit
[10:54] <TheSeeker> click the globe to see the known boards, or just add a 'new' board if you know the name.
[10:57] <ordex> and if i don't know? XD
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[10:59] <FreenetLogBot> r22513 (1162) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[11:00] <TheSeeker> ordex: consider frost unusable and use FMS instead?
[11:00] <ordex> could be a good idea :)
[11:02] <FreenetLogBot> Emu wasn't able to build r22514 (WoT) -- see error message on http://emu.freenetproject.org/~svn-build/build-r22514.txt
[11:03] <nextgens> okay, that's better
[11:03] <FreenetLogBot> Emu wasn't able to build r22514 (WoT) -- see error message on http://emu.freenetproject.org/~svn-build/build-r22514.txt
[11:03] <TheSeeker> With the progress being made in the WoT plugin area, Frost could possibly be made usable again. Hard to say though, it would have to radically change in design. There's probably still scaling issues to work out, and the 'community censorship' drama would start all over again.
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[11:30] <ordex> i remember that a few time ago i listed a lot of boards in frost, not only the standard
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[11:31] <ordex> is it still possible?
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[11:34] <mpp> @nextgens
[11:35] <mpp> freenet seems to set setgid execution bit
[11:35] <mpp> this causes freenet to freeze or not even start
[11:35] <mpp> strange
[11:35] <mpp> freenet refused to automatic update so checked
[11:37] <nextgens> mpp> freenet is in java; there is no way of using setgid from it
[11:37] <FreenetLogBot> r22518 (WoT) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[11:37] <nextgens> mpp> unless you have a silly umask of course
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[11:39] <p0s> woot. did anyone try the salt-hash db for some time yet?
[11:39] <sdiz> nextgens: my node keep asking me to update to ext #22
[11:39] <p0s> ahh sdiz is here =)
[11:40] <mpp> strange
[11:40] <mpp> the bit wasn't there before i started freenet
[11:40] <nextgens> sdiz> yeah, and ?
[11:40] <p0s> sdiz: i wanna know how stable salt-hash is. i'm annoyed by node crashes due to bdb corruption. my database is > 70 GiB and it takes over one day to recover the bdb
[11:40] <mpp> ill check on other hosts
[11:40] <ordex> no bad XD
[11:41] <p0s> sdiz: so can you give me a hint please how well tested it is? =)
[11:41] <p0s> sdiz: especially i do not want to lose my 70 GiB datastore, took a long time to get it that large
[11:41] <sdiz> resize is *really* slow, it work well in other aspect
[11:42] <sdiz> if you have a file named 'migrated' datastore/, it won't migrate your db
[11:42] <sdiz> it never delete your old datastore, it should be safe to try...
[11:42] <p0s> sdiz: how fast is the bdb => salt-hash conversion?
[11:44] <p0s> O(n) ? =)
[11:44] <sdiz> 4000 CHK key / minute, 1000 SSK key/minute
[11:44] <sdiz> O(n)
[11:45] <p0s> nice. on what hardware was that?
[11:48] <sdiz> P4 2.4 GHz, sata harddisk
[11:48] <nextgens> you need twice the space you have right now though
[11:48] <nextgens> that's probably going to be a big blocker for many people :/
[11:49] <p0s> uhm. i got a p3 700 mhz and around 2 million keys ...
[11:50] <Cooo> Yeah. Twice the size for the conversion means that I need to buy me a new HDD.
[11:50] <Cooo> But it's on my list of things to buy though. Not right now though
[11:52] <p0s> is there any place where changelogs for all released builds are available? i am missing freenet-announce on frost :(
[11:52] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected that http://mirror1.freenetproject.org/ is eligible to be back on the main mirror rotation list. Welcome Back!
[11:52] <nextgens> p0s> @cvs
[11:53] <p0s> nextgens: hmmz. in my opionion there should be a public, easy to use changelog.
[11:54] <p0s> nextgens: first of all, people want to know what has changed. further, if there is a changelog available, people can see that the project is still making progress :)
[11:56] <nextgens> p0s> edon'tcare
[11:56] <p0s> ?
[11:56] <nextgens> EDONTCARE
[11:56] <nextgens> is that clearer this way? :)
[11:57] <p0s> well yes :) who is responsible for the website then^^
[11:57] <nextgens> if people are interrested in the changelog they can read commit messages
[11:57] <nextgens> everyone
[11:57] <nextgens> the website is hosted in the svn repository
[11:57] <p0s> if someone wants to figure out whether the project is still alive he probably will just go to freenetproject.org and see that the last news is from june... =(
[11:58] <p0s> so i suppose having a changelog there would be nice3
[11:58] <nextgens> we had one for years
[11:58] <p0s> but it died? :D
[11:58] <nextgens> and it wasn't any more maintained than the website itself
[11:58] <nextgens> so at some point we got rid of it
[12:00] <sdiz> p0s: `svn log http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/Version.java` and you will get a nice changelog
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[12:00] <p0s> sdiz: okay thanks
[12:01] <p0s> sdiz: moving to salt-hash now. over 2 minutes per 1000 keys. doh =(
[12:05] <sdiz> if you don't want to migrate, create an empty file `datastore/migrated`
[12:06] <p0s> i want to.
[12:06] <p0s> well its faster now, i shut down all other daemons.
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[12:53] <ordex> hi men
[12:53] <ordex> anyone could explain me how to use the fms thunderbird extension?
[12:54] <ordex> should i subscribe to a newsgroup?
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[13:40] <sdiz> ordex: there is a video tutorial on fms freesite
[13:41] <ordex> found thanks
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[14:56] <ordex> 64bit damn damn damn
[14:56] <ordex> is there some realtime chat on freenet like irc?
[15:04] <caytchen> nope, but it was proposed before.
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[15:08] <iznotsobad> hello
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[15:29] <Tommy[D]> iznotsobad: How is your node running?
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[15:45] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: yes it is still running after a break yesterday night
[15:46] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: I'm currently monitoring the firts downloading: blocked to 99.9% for the moment
[15:47] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: firts=first
[15:50] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: but otherway, it has a 30.8KBD ans 46.7KBU speed for 12 unknown connected: good
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[18:24] <ordex> hi men
[18:24] <ordex> hi men
[18:33] <Cooo> hello
[18:36] <ordex> hi Cooo
[18:37] <ordex> you know anyplace to exchange refs? coz its difficoult to got friends in the first period :P
[18:37] <Cooo> hi there ordex
[18:37] <Cooo> ordex: You should only exchange refs with people you know and trust.
[18:38] <ordex> right
[18:38] <Cooo> ordex: The best you can do it so enable opennet
[18:38] <ordex> yeah, it what i'm doing right now
[18:38] <ordex> so the only way is know people and become trust user :)
[18:39] <Cooo> good.. Once opennet is enabled everything should work.
[18:39] <ordex> yeah it is :)
[18:40] <ordex> i0m trying to get involved in fms and frost boards :P
[18:40] <Cooo> You should only exchange refs with people you know (since most Freenet users nowadays do not know anyone else using freenet, opennet was created.)
[18:41] <Cooo> frost is probably still spammed so I would say go for FMS
[18:41] <ordex> fms seems also more userfrienldy, in frost i still can't lit all boards :/
[18:41] <ordex> *list
[18:44] <ordex> could you explain me how does sign work in fms?
[18:47] <Cooo> I am not using FMS, there might be someone else around to help you though.
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[18:47] <Cooo> hello p0s : How is your salt-hash conversion going?
[18:48] <p0s> hi Cooo
[18:49] <p0s> the log just said "kve at block 284109" and thats why i came here - to ask what that means?
[18:50] <Cooo> hmmm. Can't help you there
[18:50] <Cooo> and sdiz logged of about 2 and half hour ago.
[18:51] <p0s> mmhk
[18:51] <p0s> well i suppose its no severe problem, it's still continuing to convert the stuff
[18:51] <p0s> my svn account does not seem to work anymore, anyone here who can fix it?
[18:53] <Cooo> Ahh.. Probably just a lost block then.
[18:56] <p0s> svn works, i was wrong with the username
[18:57] <Cooo> :)
[18:58] <ordex> :p
[18:58] <nextgens> p0s> that's the bloom filter creation iirc
[18:59] <p0s> (excuse me but my password library contains over 180 accounts now ;)#
[18:59] <p0s> nextgens: oh okay thanks
[18:59] <nextgens> arguably it coult probably be done during the migration phase
[19:00] <nextgens> *could
[19:00] <p0s> whats the progress of the FMS plugin, now that the WoT plugin was moved to official?
[19:00] <nextgens> it hasn't yet
[19:01] <nextgens> and well, ask saces, he's the author
[19:01] <p0s> hehe i already typed "is being moved" but then hit backspace...
[19:01] <p0s> saces, are you there?
[19:04] <nextgens> so, how's the network behaving now that FOAF is enabled?
[19:05] <p0s> if my database was not borked i'd tell you =)
[19:16] <mpp> does increasing the datastore size affect the already stored keys ?
[19:16] <ordex> guys, in your opinion is thaw still utilizable?if yes is better than frost?
[19:16] <p0s> mpp: define "affect"
[19:16] <Cooo> mpp: It shouldn't
[19:17] <mpp> do i lose the data inn it ?
[19:17] <mpp> okay
[19:17] <nextgens> ordex> it's better than frost
[19:17] <mpp> whats the average size regular freenet users set the datastore besides the default of 1G ?
[19:17] <mpp> any suggestions
[19:18] <Cooo> 300G here
[19:18] <Cooo> only 200G of it used so far though
[19:18] <p0s> mpp: no you don't lose it
[19:18] <p0s> 128 GB here
[19:18] <mpp> what about performance issue ?
[19:19] <mpp> in terms of disk i/o
[19:19] <ordex> nextgens: thanks
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[19:19] <nextgens> mpp> switch to the new datastore backend if you plan on having a big store
[19:19] <mpp> how do i do that ?
[19:19] <Cooo> mpp: Did you send a mail to devl yeasterday? If it was you then I must say that I find your idea interesting :)
[19:19] <mpp> what exactly ? Cooo
[19:20] <nextgens> mpp> it's available in the options
[19:20] <nextgens> on the config toadlet
[19:20] <Cooo> mpp: Thaw index as an fs allocation .....
[19:20] <mpp> ah nope
[19:21] <mpp> digging the config
[19:21] <nextgens> Cooo> you're looking for pmpp here
[19:21] <Cooo> nextgens: Yeah. Saw that now.. Comfusing when they have almost the sam nick
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[19:22] <Cooo> *confusing
[19:22] <mpp> there are three type of backend ...
[19:22] <mpp> whats the *new* one ?
[19:22] * nextgens doesn't remember how it's called
[19:23] <mpp> hold a sec
[19:23] <p0s> salt-hash
[19:23] <nextgens> but it's obviously not the one you're using right now and not the ram one
[19:23] <mpp> bdb-index
[19:23] <nextgens> it's salt-hash
[19:23] <mpp> ah ...
[19:24] <mpp> does it convert from bdb -> salt-hash =
[19:24] <mpp> does it convert from bdb -> salt-hash ?
[19:24] <nextgens> yes
[19:25] <nextgens> anyway, brb
[19:25] <mpp> at which size is it recommended ?
[19:25] <mpp> ill stick with < 1TB ;-)
[19:26] <Cooo> mpp: Any size I guess. But you need to have twice the disk space of your current datastore to do the conversion if I get things right.
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[19:29] <Cooo> Errr. I mean. You need to have atleast the size of your current datastore as free space on your disk for the conversion.
[19:30] <mpp> allright thanx guys
[19:30] <Cooo> np.
[19:31] <kork> err, is it normal that the newest freenet-ext is 6 meg?
[19:34] <p0s> mine is also that large
[19:35] <nextgens> it features my secret backdoor, that's why
[19:35] <Cooo> kork: Nextgens and toad was talking about that yeasterday and yep I think everything is like it should. I think the new -ext contains db40 files thus making it that large
[19:35] <kork> oh, ok
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[19:41] <Cooo> Ooooh. I see we got a guest user on the bugtracker that likes the word "lame"
[19:42] <nextgens> hmmm
[19:44] <nextgens> wanna bet on who it is?
[19:45] <Cooo> Hmm.. I think both you and me are thinking about the same user.
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[19:52] <pmpp> hi all, yes Cooo it's me
[19:52] <Cooo> pmpp: Hi. Interesting mail :)
[19:52] <pmpp> thx
[19:53] <Cooo> and ofcourse an interesting use of Freenet.
[19:55] <pmpp> but not very useable atm, as i said io are blocked till chk got fully fetched
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[19:56] <pmpp> my personnal use is based on torrent like files so fcp give regularly small fetched blocks
[19:57] <pmpp> that allow seeking in files even if not fully retrieved
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[19:59] <Cooo> Yeah. Even if it is somewhat limited at the moment I think the idea is interesting (The way Freenet can be used needs to be explored)
[20:03] <pmpp> yes, imho thaw indexes is a good way to emerge quickly a well ordered filesystem , because everybody use them already
[20:05] <pmpp> so even if filesystem is not finished or buggy that doesn't matter
[20:05] <nextgens> saces> I have been trying to clone your FMSPlugin unsuccessfully; may you push it once again please?
[20:09] <Cooo> pmpp: Right. I hope too see more code from you regarding this.
[20:09] <nextgens> hmm, something seems to be seriously broken
[20:09] <Cooo> Now I need to go to bed.. Se ya all later.
[20:10] <Cooo> nextgens: Hmmm..
[20:10] <nextgens> the incomming request specialisation is weird,
[20:10] <nextgens> the node has bootstrapped and got only long links
[20:11] <Cooo> :(
[20:15] <saces> nextgens: hg ... USK@MYLAnId-ZEyXhDGGbYOa1gOtkZZrFNTXjFl1dibLj9E,Xpu27DoAKKc8b0718E-ZteFrGqCYROe7XBBJI57pB4M,AQACAAE/FMSPlugin-hg/17
[20:16] <nextgens> okay
[20:16] <mpp> hey guys i need a short note on how to use ssk usk
[20:16] <mpp> usk in particular
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[20:17] <pmpp> usk is an ssk with -0 at the end
[20:17] <nextgens> saces> for some reason the node doesn't want to deal with it starting with 3 as an index number
[20:18] <mpp> okay ...
[20:18] <saces> the key is only requested by you and me, so the older version are follen out, maybe.
[20:20] <Cooo> nextgens: saces: I tried the key to without luck
[20:21] <mpp> pmpp: how do i insert an usk on the webinterface ?
[20:22] <pmpp> sorry i don't know
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[20:22] <mpp> it gives me an error like /nonexist .....
[20:22] <pmpp> you try to insert with usk@xx or ssk@xxxxx/blah-0 ?
[20:23] <mpp> usk...
[20:23] <mpp> because its updatable - right ?
[20:23] <pmpp> for first edition use ssk@xxx/blah-0
[20:23] <mpp> allright
[20:23] <pmpp> then usk@xxx/blah/0 will work
[20:25] <mpp> do i have to configure a directory somewhere
[20:25] <saces> Cooo: FMSPlugin-hg/17 was just inserted.
[20:25] <saces> 10 minutes ago.
[20:27] <Cooo> hrrrm. Seems that I didn't manage to get my ass out of the chair :P
[20:28] <Cooo> saces: Ok
[20:28] <Cooo> getting an not in archive error for the file
[20:30] <Cooo> Shouldn't I be getting a DNF?
[20:36] <saces> Cooo: its a mercurial repos, no default doc
[20:36] <Cooo> saces: Might explain it. Stupid me :P
[20:37] <saces> Cooo: load the KeyExplorer plugin and reload the key ;)
[20:37] <Cooo> saces: will do
[20:38] <Cooo> saces: Works :)
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[20:40] <mpp> am i missing something .. how do insert a ksk via the webinterface ?
[20:41] <mpp> i now hvae uploaded a file with KSK@
[20:41] <mpp> that should be something else ... ?
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[20:51] <Cooo> mpp: You checked the KSK box before uploading? and entered a name in the box? like KSK@mpp
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[20:53] <kork> w00t
[20:53] <kork> a 133 meg file I added weeks ago (or something) just finished downloading
[20:54] <Cooo> :)
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[21:06] <ordex> goodnight men
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[21:13] <saces> after svn update eclipse is whining: http://dark-code.bulix.org/90nzss-68298
[21:16] <saces> also problems on wot plugin: http://dark-code.bulix.org/ygpo0k-68299
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[21:34] <saces> hm.
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[21:35] <saces> the first one is resolved, ugly situation.
[21:36] <saces> eclipse put a micro marker on conflicting files and hold the old version.
[21:37] <saces> it would be better to break the build to get users attention to resolve the conflict.
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[21:42] <ordex> hi men
[21:42] <ordex> =)
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[21:44] <ordex> why shouldn't be possible to assign a short email address?
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[22:28] <zerwas> I think i need some help. On trying to do "./run.sh start" i get "Starting Freenet 0.7...", but there is no process running it
[22:29] <zerwas> In which log should i have a look to analyze this?
[22:43] <mpp_> looks like the setuid phenomena
[22:43] <mpp_> i had that one too
[22:43] <mpp_> check the permissions of the freenet directory
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[22:50] <zerwas> mpp, thanks. huh... the permissions automatically change back
[22:57] <zerwas> performed update.sh, now it works ... strange.
[22:58] <mpp> yep
[22:58] <mpp> nextgens suspected that is was my umask
[22:58] <mpp> but there are some shell scripts in freenet
[22:58] <mpp> especially when running under nobody / nogroup
[23:00] <zerwas> hm
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[23:06] <mpp> whats you os zerwas ?
[23:06] <mpp> linux i guess
[23:06] <zerwas> yep
[23:06] <mpp> what distro ...
[23:06] <mpp> lmg ubuntu / debian
[23:07] <zerwas> Ubuntu 8.10
[23:07] <mpp> me 2
[23:07] <mpp> took me some time to figure this permissions stuff out
[23:07] <mpp> als had related bug with openfire
[23:08] <mpp> allthoug also java it uses some shell scripts
[23:08] <mpp> and root user - but same problem there
[23:08] <mpp> so check your java apps wich are running under nobody / nogroup or the like
[23:09] <zerwas> hm, we really need an ubuntu repository for Freenet. want to help? ;)
[23:09] <mpp> ahm...
[23:10] <mpp> have no plan on debian / ubuntu reps ..
[23:10] <mpp> like what should be done exactly ?
[23:10] <mpp> :-)
[23:11] <zerwas> In theory it's not that hard to do. i made a pidgin debs some time ago, but i think Freenet won't be that easy because it is not the standard procedere configure,make,make install ...
[23:11] <zerwas> mpp, everything. first it has to be packaged
[23:13] <mpp> i have absoloutly no plan on debian / ubuntu packaging
[23:13] <mpp> to be honest ....
[23:17] <zerwas> no problem! :)
[23:18] <mpp> thanx for asking
[23:18] <mpp> im kinda user only to freenet
[23:19] <zerwas> that's what freenet needs too
[23:21] <mpp> appreciate
[23:21] <mpp> could do some package for t2-project though
[23:21] <zerwas> (btw: i am user only too ;))
[23:22] <zerwas> t2?
[23:22] <mpp> t2-project.org
[23:22] <zerwas> oh, i see
[23:22] <mpp> i could think of building vms customed for freenet or the like
[23:26] <zerwas> sounds interesting
[23:27] <mpp> which part
[23:28] <mpp> ?
[23:30] <zerwas> t2. I don't know what you mean by VMS ...
[23:31] <mpp> virtual machines build with t2 targeted for freenet
[23:32] <mpp> like those tor vmware virtual appliances and stuff
[23:35] <zerwas> aah ok
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