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[0:35] <Journeyman> fms keeps crashing on me
[0:35] <Journeyman> i can't seem to find out why
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[8:18] <Anarhist> help somebody, i'm using salted-hash version of freenet, and i've not downloaded update yet
[8:19] <Anarhist> and i can't because all the peers are too new
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[13:08] <toad_> rehi
[13:17] <Smar> hi
[13:17] <Smar> toad_: should fproxy.bindTo=0.0.0.0 work?
[13:19] <toad_> you shouldn't need it
[13:19] <toad_> i dunno though
[13:19] <toad_> probably
[13:19] <toad_> anyone testing trunk? it would be good to get 1161 out soon
[13:20] <Smar> well, it does bind freenet, fproxy doesn’t want to show anything
[13:20] <Smar> emm, itself
[13:21] <toad_> you need to set allowedHosts as well
[13:21] <Smar> that’s 0.0.0.0 too
[13:21] <toad_> and yes there are settings for fproxy
[13:21] <toad_> for allowedHosts you want *
[13:21] <Smar> oh, okie
[13:22] <Smar> hmm, it doesn’t still give any data
[13:22] <Smar> arh
[13:23] <Smar> yeah, now works
[13:23] <Smar> http://freenetproject.org/faq.html#fproxy-lan :: you should change that to here too
[13:23] <toad_> eh?
[13:23] * toad_ looks
[13:24] <toad_> oh, doh
[13:24] <Smar> :)
[13:25] <toad_> done, thanks
[13:25] <FreenetLogBot> Website is up to date with r22446
[13:26] <Smar> np
[13:27] * toad_ does some code review prior to releasing 1161
[13:27] <toad_> could some folk please test it?
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[13:31] <Cooo> toad_: I am up and running with r22445
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[13:34] <Cooo> toad_: Got a bunch of these in log http://code.bulix.org/u9czbe-68282?raw
[13:38] <Smar> toad_: I can’t easily update my freenet, so don’t expect me to help..
[13:39] <Smar> toad_: btw... I’d like to fix few translation mistakes, so could you ask before you release?
[13:39] <Cooo> Also got a bunch of these http://code.bulix.org/8ccyiz-68283?raw which looks like bug #1957
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[14:08] <Smar> now this get fun...
[14:08] <Smar> /translation doesn’t work at all
[14:12] <Cooo> hmmmm.. works here.
[14:12] <Cooo> test /translation/
[14:13] <Smar> well, my node has some kind of minor troubles :)
[14:14] <Smar> like it just restarted because of out of memory...
[14:15] <Smar> yeah, now /translation works too
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[14:15] <Cooo> Ooo.. OOM ain't that funny :(
[14:15] <Smar> I wonder if that was some kind of bug in that too, but eh...
[14:16] <Cooo> hard to say
[14:16] <Smar> Cooo: well, I have 2G free memory, but I wonder my wrapper.conf will be spared during updates
[14:16] <Smar> maybe I should write some kind of funnies to Tommy[D]’s ebuild..
[14:17] <Cooo> Smar: Usually wrapper.conf should be spared, happened for me once that an upgrade changed it some though
[14:17] <Smar> Cooo: with Tommy[D]’s ebuild?
[14:18] <toad_> node auto-update will change wrapper.conf slightly
[14:18] <Smar> toad_: but it could be blocked with permissions
[14:18] <Cooo> Smar: Dunno what Tommy[D]’s ebuild is.
[14:18] <Smar> gentoo ebuild.
[14:18] <toad_> Smar: in which case the node update will fail
[14:18] <Smar> for installing freenet.
[14:18] <Smar> package manager thingie.
[14:18] <Smar> toad_: well, it didn’t do it before
[14:19] <Cooo> Smar: Ahh.. nope then.
[14:20] <toad_> Smar: it is impossible for the node to update unless it can change the jar filenames in wrapper.conf
[14:20] <Smar> ee... okee..
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[14:20] <toad_> Smar: if you prevent the node from rewriting wrapper.conf, you'll have to use update.sh/update.cmd
[14:20] <Smar> hmm, that way
[14:21] <Smar> well, I don’t even have update.sh, and I haven’t located freenet.jar yet, so... :)
[14:21] <toad_> <Cooo> toad_: Got a bunch of these in log http://code.bulix.org/u9czbe-68282?raw
[14:21] <toad_> Cooo: afaik those aren't new...
[14:22] <Cooo> Aha ok.
[14:23] * toad_ will have a look though
[14:24] <Cooo> great
[14:28] <Smar> hmm... is in this chan any finns?
[14:28] <Smar> I would like to have someone to talk how different names should be translated
[14:29] <Llanowyn> So what's all this then? I've just stumbled onto this freenet idea, and I've been reading what's on the website. I understand the 'internet within the internet' idea, but is there enough content available to be worth using?
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[14:32] <toad_> Llanowyn: try it and find out
[14:36] <Llanowyn> ok. Do I need to leave my computer up until all of the initial node references are exchanged? (possibly days?)
[14:36] <toad_> initial node references?
[14:36] <toad_> are you planning to use darknet?
[14:38] <Llanowyn> On the 'connecting to freenet' page under documentation, it says that I need to enable an insecure mode to generate friends, and that the process could take a while to get my node up to speed.
[14:38] <toad_> insecure mode doesn't generate friends, it connects to strangers :)
[14:38] <toad_> but yes it can take a while... it's a good idea to run your node as close to 24x7 as possible in any case
[14:40] <Llanowyn> alright, I'll grab a new router before I try it. The one i have currently cuts out every 6 hours or so. It's very inconvenient.
[14:42] <toad_> Cooo: apparently I don't have enough logging to debug this, I've upgraded my logging and will debug it when possible
[14:42] <toad_> imho it's a long standing issue that doesn't need to be addressed for 1161
[14:43] <Cooo> toad_: Okay.
[14:44] <toad_> Sep 05, 2008 14:43:59:260 (freenet.node.NodeDispatcher, UdpSocketHandler for port 37024(1), ERROR): We received 21 locations from freenet.node.OpennetPeerNode@3eb9b0ed@85.228.169.210:10731@1776c6e93d6bb878d9904e068fb8ca2f5a148d9c05b5e1b5e613f432f0d6c527@3c1fc1a6! That should *NOT* happen!
[14:44] <toad_> hmmm
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[15:16] <toad_> Cooo: i got it, then realised that i hadn't added the logging i thought i had added
[15:16] <toad_> Cooo: i'll fix it eventually :)
[15:16] <Cooo> :)
[15:19] <toad_> other than that, is trunk behaving itself?
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[15:21] <TheSeeker> nothing with stacktraces besides the expected 'native FEC can't load' issue (windows x64 here)
[15:21] <toad_> and using it works?
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[15:22] <TheSeeker> I'm able to load sites, and FMS appears to be getting messages OK.
[15:24] <toad_> hehe, rotating hops, i wonder if it's free to use in themes... http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:USK@rMEifshVu-XOuYT-vtPeIloVanveZBh4nmLkhVbqWc4,jUEphjsclmMet1EPDmBfKY8vKRcrpKWKizRvxbS2pwE,AQACAAE/F_A_Index/30/freenet.gif
[15:24] <toad_> somebody should ask the author if he minds GPLing it so somebody can use it in a theme
[15:24] <toad_> not me of course
[15:25] <toad_> but somebody might want to
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[15:25] <Smar> heh, that’s nice :)
[15:33] <Cooo> I got ~ 170.000 "ERROR): Packet * sent over 168975ms ago and still not acked" in log
[15:34] <toad_> that's another old bug
[15:34] <Cooo> ok.
[15:34] <TheSeeker> WOT plugin + FMS identity keys = centralized WOT ID ... woot
[15:36] <toad_> hmmm?
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[15:37] <TheSeeker> When you create a new identity with the WOT plugin, you are shown the keys before it actually makes the ID, and you can change them too... so I did, to the keys that FMS generated when I made my ID there.
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[15:51] <toad_> TheSeeker: does it work? the trust systems aren't compatible...
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[15:53] <Tommy[D]> toad_: the third question about computer seized or stolen: Wont freenet encrypt anything with setting low? The description looks like that to me
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[15:53] <toad_> Tommy[D]: right
[15:53] <toad_> Tommy[D]: local temp files won't be encrypted if it's set to low
[15:53] <toad_> so there's a chance that what you've been browsing in fproxy is on disk somewhere in plaintext
[15:54] <toad_> and could be recovered should your disk fall into the wrong hands
[15:54] <toad_> therefore i recommend you use NORMAL
[15:54] <Tommy[D]> so this will only leave tempfiles unencrypted?
[15:54] <toad_> but nextgens says some things (e.g. fproxy) can be significantly faster without the crypto ... i'm not sure that that's the case with the recent work on buckets though
[15:55] <toad_> Tommy[D]: hmmm?
[15:55] <toad_> it might affect the datastore in future but it doesn't now
[15:55] <toad_> it will never affect external communications
[15:55] <toad_> because that's network/friends security
[15:55] <Tommy[D]> toad_: the difference between low and normal is, that with low temp files are not encrypted, nothing else, right?
[15:55] <toad_> at the moment yes
[15:56] <toad_> the physical security choice impacts on local encryption, local paranoia
[15:56] <toad_> stuff relating to what happens if your node is physically seized by the bad guys
[15:56] <TheSeeker> got a bunch of these: http://dark-code.bulix.org/w48gi2-68287
[15:56] <Cooo> toad_: Topic! Isn't #1160 mandatory now?
[15:56] <toad_> indeed
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[15:56] * toad_ fixes
[15:56] * toad_ changes topic to 'http://freenetproject.org/download.html (1160 mandatory), please read before asking for help here. #freenet-refs is no more, turn on insecure mode if you don't have any friends using Freenet | http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions | logs: http://emu.freenetproject.org/irc/ | Tor blocked due to spam (get an op to voice you) | #freenet-fr #freenet-se #freenet-es #freenet-it #freenet-de | paste at http://code.bulix.org'
[15:57] <Cooo> :)
[15:57] <toad_> TheSeeker: known bug, will investigate when possible
[15:57] <TheSeeker> right-o time to start getting ready for work then.
[15:57] <Tommy[D]> toad_: what is additionally shared with friends, if the setting is low?
[15:57] <toad_> at the moment not much
[15:58] <toad_> in future, a lot
[15:58] <toad_> a bloom filter indicating the contents of your datastore, with incremental diffs updated hourly
[15:58] <toad_> that's one proposal
[15:58] <toad_> which is likely to be implemented sooner or later because it could be a largish performance gain
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[16:00] <toad_> maybe other things too
[16:01] <Tommy[D]> contents of your datastore? Will it contain the location keys that are in the datastore?
[16:01] <toad_> for nodes which are offline a lot with high trust levels, we might even send the contents of your persistent queue ... that would be a very interesting optimisation for that case; we might want to make a VERY_LOW setting for it though :)
[16:02] <toad_> Tommy[D]: it'd be a bloom filter - a compressed structure that lets you tell whether a key is in the store with an X% certainty
[16:02] <toad_> where X is configurable - false negatives are not possible, but there is a small chance of a false positive
[16:02] <toad_> so if it says it's a hit, there's a say 99.9% chance that it's a hit in your store
[16:03] <toad_> so it would forward the request to you before routing it
[16:03] <toad_> because most likely your node would be able to satisfy it in one hop
[16:03] <toad_> instead of several
[16:03] <toad_> and because your node may be trusted more than the nodes that the request would have been forwarded to
[16:03] <toad_> so it's even a security gain - IF you can trust the node in question
[16:04] <toad_> most likely all this will be configurable per-Friend
[16:04] <toad_> but i haven't implemented that yet because we don't use it yet
[16:05] <toad_> the other side of all this is that when network security level is at MAXIMUM, or friends security is at HIGH, we can do expensive security enhancing things like tunnels
[16:06] <toad_> which might have such a performance impact that we don't enable them at NORMAL
[16:06] <toad_> (having said that, we will probably enable tunnels at NORMAL, because it lets us enable datastore bloom filters at NORMAL as your local requests don't get cached in your store any more)
[16:07] <toad_> mostly it's for future stuff, right now there are only 5 or 6 settings controlled by the seclevels
[16:07] <toad_> the most important part is the network seclevel, because that determines whether opennet is enabled
[16:11] <Tommy[D]> What is the different between normal and low on network seclevel?
[16:16] <Tommy[D]> btw: perhaps most of it was in my cache, but the activelink-index (preloading version) did load within a minute :)
[16:16] <toad_> there isn't much between normal and low on network seclevel atm
[16:17] * toad_ can find out for you ...
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[16:19] <toad_> LOW disables oneConnectionPerIP on opennet, that's about it
[16:19] <toad_> other than that it's like NORMAL
[16:20] <toad_> NORMAL or LOW enables opennet, that's the most important thing; you *can* set MAXIMUM and then enable opennet manually on the config, but you're a fool if you do
[16:22] <toad_> if HIGH or MAXIMUM *and* friends threat level is HIGH, FOAF is disabled
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[16:25] <toad_> friends.HIGH turns off allow local IP addresses in darknet refs, as well as the FOAF impact I mentioned; and physical.LOW turns off tempfile encryption
[16:25] <toad_> that's it at the moment
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[17:34] <iznotsobad> hello
[17:35] <Cooo> hi
[17:38] <iznotsobad> I've started a node 4 days ago and Freenet is stopping at least one time a day
[17:38] <iznotsobad> is there a debug mode?
[17:41] <Tommy[D]> "stopping"? Does it restart or really quits?
[17:43] <iznotsobad> it quits and a need to restart manually
[17:44] <iznotsobad> I in opennet with an ubuntu and Java v "1.6.0_06
[17:45] <Tommy[D]> Can you nopaste your wrapper.log?
[17:46] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: http://pastebin.com/m1f5bb204
[17:47] <iznotsobad> it's for the las time and there nothing interesting before
[17:49] <Tommy[D]> Which version of freenet are you running?
[17:49] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: 0.7
[17:50] <iznotsobad> I suppose the last one downloaded one the freenet site with installer
[17:50] <Tommy[D]> iznotsobad: the start page should tell something like build #1158 or similar
[17:50] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: Freenet 0.7 version #1160 r22339M
[17:53] <Tommy[D]> hm, i had something similar with previous versions, but not with #1160
[17:53] <Tommy[D]> Can you nopaste your wrapper.conf?
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[17:53] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: http://pastebin.com/m1f5bb204
[17:54] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: sorry,
[17:55] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: here it is: http://pastebin.com/d25fcca9c
[17:58] <Cooo> iznotsobad: You could try to change wrapper.jvm_exit.timeout=120 to a higher value, something like 420 or mabye even more might help if your comp is heavily loded from time to time.
[18:00] <iznotsobad> I've tried an update. I will only see the results in 24H and I will try wrapper.jvm_exit.timeout=420 because my processors are always 100%
[18:00] <Cooo> 100% cpu probably is the problem..
[18:01] <Cooo> Is it freenet or something else that is using the CPU?
[18:01] <iznotsobad> Cooo: something else
[18:01] <Cooo> ok...
[18:02] <Cooo> Setting a higher value to wrapper.jvm_exit.timeout might help you then.
[18:02] <iznotsobad> I've some distributed.net clients working 24H/day
[18:04] <Cooo> Ooooh... Make sure The distributed clients is working at a lower nice level than Freenet
[18:05] <iznotsobad> Cooo: they work with a nice of 19
[18:06] <Cooo> I think Freenet is working at nice 12 or something like that.. You really should set the distributed clients to a really low level.
[18:06] <nextgens> hi
[18:06] <Cooo> hi
[18:09] <iznotsobad> Cooo: how do we check freenet's level?
[18:11] <Cooo> iznotsobad: I do it with system monitor in ubuntu.
[18:12] <iznotsobad> Cooo: what's name? I'm working with wmaker
[18:14] <Cooo> dunno.
[18:14] <Tommy[D]> iznotsobad: check the file called run.sh
[18:15] <Tommy[D]> check PRIORITY=??
[18:15] <Tommy[D]> that is the base nice level freenet uses
[18:15] <nextgens> you can use top
[18:17] <iznotsobad> Tommy[D]: run.sh:PRIORITY=10
[18:18] <Cooo> wouldn't it be a good idea to set distributed.net to a really low nice? Lower than anything else? It would get all free CPU cycles anyways?
[18:19] <Tommy[D]> so freenet should use nice levels between 10 and 19, mostly 14 and 16
[18:21] <iznotsobad> Cooo: I've say 19 because I think it's the lowest one
[18:21] <iznotsobad> but with a top, java is always at top
[18:22] <Cooo> Isn't 19 the highest one?
[18:23] <Tommy[D]> no, that is -19
[18:23] <iznotsobad> Cooo: I think it's -20 the highest one. No?
[18:24] <Cooo> Hrrrm. So I have gotten this the wrong way then?
[18:27] <Tommy[D]> to app can create child processes with a higher priority than itself has, so freenet would not be able to create processes with prio 14 or 16 while itself starts with 10 :)
[18:27] <Tommy[D]> eh
[18:28] <Tommy[D]> an app cannot create child processes with a higher priority than it has itself
[18:29] <iznotsobad> Cooo: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-change-a-running-processes-priority-with-renice/
[18:31] <Cooo> Thanx..
[18:32] <Cooo> Wonder how I could have gotten this wrong.. Now I might have to rethink some prios on my comp.
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[18:50] <nextgens> let's do some l10n merging before toad releases
[18:50] <Cooo> Yeah.. please do :)
[18:53] <nextgens> done
[18:53] <FreenetLogBot> r22472 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:53] <Cooo> nextgens: Great :)
[18:53] <FreenetLogBot> r22473 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:53] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (JSTUN) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <Cooo> nextgens: Something broke while merging.. Swedish letters ain't working :(
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (KeyExplorer) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (Librarian) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (MDNSDiscovery) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (TestGallery) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (ThawIndexBrowser) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> Emu wasn't able to build r22474 (UPnP) -- see error message on http://emu.freenetproject.org/~svn-build/build-r22474.txt
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (XMLLibrarian) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:55] <FreenetLogBot> r22474 (XMLSpider) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:57] <nextgens> doh
[19:02] <FreenetLogBot> r22475 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:02] <FreenetLogBot> r22476 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:03] * nextgens should switch his laptop to utf8 for real
[19:03] <Cooo> :)
[19:04] <nextgens> Cooo> retry with r22478 please
[19:05] <FreenetLogBot> r22477 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:06] <Cooo> nextgens: :( Still not shure it's right
[19:06] <FreenetLogBot> r22478 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:06] <nextgens> hehe
[19:06] <nextgens> well, be sure please :)
[19:11] <Cooo> nextgens: I am shure.. It's not right
[19:11] <nextgens> hmm
[19:11] <nextgens> where/when did I screw up then ? :d
[19:11] <Cooo> double checked it with reflect in the swedish channel
[19:12] <Cooo> swedish letters is replaced with ?
[19:12] * nextgens will read the diffs
[19:12] <nextgens> are you sure the files you sent me are in utf8?
[19:13] <Cooo> Strange.. As reflect says.. r22476 is now like it should be. 78 is not
[19:13] <nextgens> r22476 was a revert
[19:13] <Cooo> yeah.. you are right..
[19:14] <nextgens> okay
[19:14] <nextgens> let's revert once again then
[19:14] <Cooo> 76 is the old translation.
[19:14] <Cooo> 78 is not right
[19:14] <Cooo> finnish translation ***77 aint right either
[19:16] <nextgens> hmmmmmm
[19:16] <toad_> bbiab
[19:18] <nextgens> Cooo> retry with r22479 please
[19:18] <nextgens> sorry about that
[19:19] * nextgens found the local issue
[19:20] <Cooo> nextgens: 79 works..
[19:20] <FreenetLogBot> r22479 (1160) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:20] <Smar> Cooo: finnish too?
[19:20] <nextgens> both should have been dealt with
[19:21] <Smar> well, I should spot errors sooner or later. :)
[19:21] <Cooo> Yeap.. 79 deals with finnish too
[19:22] <Smar> nice :)
[19:23] <Cooo> nextgens: It seems to be working now...
[19:25] <Cooo> nextgens: Thanx.
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[19:28] <Cooo> Now if we only could solve my "Restarting node: MessageCore froze for 3 minutes!" issue I would be really glad :)
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[20:30] <toad_> re
[20:36] <nextgens> I suggest we reset the survey when 1161 is released
[20:36] <nextgens> (back it up and reset it)
[20:36] <nextgens> or just open a new document and update the link to it
[20:37] <nextgens> ^L
[20:37] <nextgens> clear
[20:37] <nextgens> reset
[20:37] <nextgens> sync
[20:37] <nextgens> sync
[20:37] <nextgens> reboot
[20:38] <kork> lol
[20:38] <toad_> :)
[20:38] <toad_> rm -Rf / :)
[20:42] <harryv> toad your bad
[20:49] * nextgens is still wondering what made his screen blackout
[20:50] <nextgens> I guess I'll never know
[20:50] <Tommy[D]> are your disks blanked? :)
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[20:51] <toad_> harryv: the smiley suggests that actually running the command (as root) isn't intended
[20:52] <nextgens> ah? it's not a parameter to the rm command ?
[21:04] <nextgens> toad_> how far are we from the release?
[21:04] * toad_ still reviewing
[21:05] <nextgens> ok
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[21:13] * toad_ has reviewed the saltedhashstore merge, yay
[21:13] * toad_ has a bunch of things to say about it, but none of them is catastrophic
[21:13] <toad_> so i will continue to review stuff for now
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[22:01] <TheSeeker> should the warning for amount of traffic being sent to a peer (and resulting backoff) be disabled if the peer is local?
[22:02] <nextgens> no
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[22:07] <TheSeeker> Are there any ISPs put all their subscribers on a local network where they are visible to eachother under a private network block? (10.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16.0.0/12 ?)
[22:08] <nextgens> of course they are
[22:08] <nextgens> ask ph00 :)
[22:10] <TheSeeker> wait, isn't there already an option to disable bw limiting on local connections? x_x duhr.
[22:12] <TheSeeker> next oddball question... I'm running two nodes, and they see eachother just fine, but they see eachother as the external IP, not as 127.0.0.1:port or 192.168.x.x:port ... how do you force a peer to see you with a LAN IP instead of an external IP?
[22:14] <nextgens> you can't
[22:14] <nextgens> but it should do it by itself
[22:15] <Tommy[D]> TheSeeker: to both nodes include the local ip in their noderef and did you enable local connections for both nodes?
[22:22] <TheSeeker> local connections are enabled for both nodes, but I'm not sure if that was the case when I first traded refs... local IP is in the noderef, but again, not sure if that was the case when first traded refs. maybe I should just drop the refs and start over? nah, that'd be too easy :P
[22:24] <TheSeeker> intersting... I removed the peer on one node, and it disappeared from the other node's friends list as well.
[22:27] <TheSeeker> re-added the refs, and get the same result: using the external IP ... I think this might be because I'm using dyndns as an IP address override, and that's the first entry on the physical.udp line.
[22:31] <TheSeeker> and now I'm super-confused, because I'm connecting to my second node with a port that's different than the one I've set o.O I think one of the routers is doing dynamic port remaping or something, even though I'm in the DMZ >_<
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[22:39] <TheSeeker> my physical.udp on my main node looks like: physical.udp=dyndnsaddr:FNPport;127.0.0.1:FNPport;192.168.x.x:FNPport;externalIP:FNPport;externalIP:somerandomport
[22:39] <nextgens> toad_> is the release still planned?
[22:39] <TheSeeker> and my second node is connecting on the somerandomport port o.O *boggle*
[22:42] <toad_> nextgens: yes, soon, i'll do it
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[23:08] <toad_> very soon now
[23:08] <toad_> if anyone has any last minute testing of trunk before i do the release, now would be a good time to do it
[23:13] <TheSeeker> 22481 seems to be working OK here. chrome whitelist for fproxy is fine, not sure what else to look for after upgrading from 22450
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[23:21] <FreenetLogBot> r22482 (XMLSpider) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[23:24] <toad_> released 1161
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[23:43] <toad_> okay, sent announcement as well
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[23:50] <toad_> good night folks
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[23:50] <Smar> oyasumi
[23:51] <zerwas> ?
[23:51] <Smar> err, night
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