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[9:47] <smariot> is freenet broken at the moment?
[9:48] <nextgens> define broken
[9:48] <smariot> my node's location has done a 180 and i can't retrieve anything.
[9:48] <nextgens> and you are using stable or a testing build?
[9:49] <smariot> i think it should be stable.
[9:49] <nextgens> current trunk is probably broken, but latest stable (1158) is expected to work
[9:49] <smariot> okay.
[9:49] <nextgens> btw, it's normal for your node to change location
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[9:56] <smariot> this is obviously some huge conspiracy, someone inserted something you didn't like, so you decided to play roulette with everyone's locations so that it could never be retrieved!
[9:58] <nextgens> yeah, that is obvious.
[9:59] <smariot> oh, i know you would never do something like that. it must have been _the new guy_.
[10:02] <smariot> is there a c/c++ fcp library?
[10:06] <smariot> right, i'll make my own then.
[10:09] <smariot> restarting my node seems to have completely fixed it. i should have been smart enough to do that in the first place.
[10:18] <nextgens> there is one but it's incomplete and unmaintained
[10:18] <nextgens> http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/apps/CppFCPLib/
[10:22] <smariot> thanks.
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[10:31] <nextgens> all testers, please upgrade to r22270
[10:32] <phrosty> i made a c++ fcp lib for 0.5, wonder where that code went
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[10:33] <phrosty> i am afraid of code that old :/
[10:33] <nextgens> phrosty> in legacy/
[10:33] <nextgens> http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/branches/legacy/apps/fcptools/ ?
[10:34] <phrosty> nope, i never gave my code out
[10:34] <nextgens> ^^
[10:34] <nextgens> FCPv2 is way simpler than v1
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[12:19] <smariot> it's hard to write safe c code without creating an unreadable mess.
[12:21] <Griffon26> why?
[12:21] <Griffon26> I mean, I know it's hard. Just not why a mess would help =)
[12:22] <smariot> its all my ifs checking for failed memory allocations, mostly.
[12:22] <Griffon26> what do you hope to do in case an alloc fails?
[12:23] <smariot> do my best to restore things back to the way they were before my function failed, and return an error code stating 'i couldn't do that, sorry.'
[12:24] <Griffon26> can you do that without using extra memory?
[12:25] <smariot> yeah, i may have run out of heap space, but i still have the stack to work with.
[12:25] <Griffon26> it depends on the application of course, but if at all possible I rather exit right then and there than try to handle allocation failures
[12:26] <Griffon26> besides, malloc won't fail on linux afaik. The shit only hits the fan when you start using the memory.
[12:27] <nextgens> luckily freenet is written in java and we don't have to deal with that kind of problems
[12:28] <Griffon26> just coz you can't doesn't mean it's better ;)
[12:29] <smariot> malloc will fail for requests for outrageous amounts of memory, but yeah, the requested pages don't actually get allocated until you try to use them.
[12:29] <nextgens> for what it's worth, we do try to rollback the last transactions and reboot the node when such problems happen
[12:31] <nextgens> the jvm's behaviour is way too impredictable when an OOM exception has been thrown
[12:34] <smariot> yeah, its really difficult in highlevel languages; for all you know there isn't enough memory to create the object for the out of memory exception, and it just dies because it throws an exception while in the middle of throwing an exception.
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[15:20] <mpp> hey can anybody help me starting my freenet node
[15:20] <mpp> i have this message about wrapper versions
[15:21] <nextgens> you can ignore it
[15:21] <nextgens> mpp> can you pastebin your wrapper.log file please?
[15:21] <mpp> but freenet does not start
[15:21] <mpp> yes sure
[15:21] <mpp> momo
[15:22] <mpp> where ?
[15:22] <nextgens> http://code.bulix.org for instance
[15:23] <mpp> http://pastebin.com/m4ff43afa
[15:23] <mpp> done :-)
[15:23] <nextgens> okay
[15:23] <nextgens> that's my fault
[15:24] <mpp> why is that ?
[15:24] <mpp> i mean i am quiet a noob regarding freenet and esp. java
[15:24] <mpp> anyways
[15:24] <mpp> help is appreciated
[15:25] <nextgens> it's a bug I have introduced
[15:25] <mpp> </offtopic> does anyone else can't resolve apache.org ?
[15:25] <nextgens> works for me
[15:25] <mpp> so what do we do about this wrapper nextgens ?
[15:26] <mpp> i just need to fire up my node
[15:26] <nextgens> just give me some time to package the new libraries you need
[15:26] <smariot> apache.org is 140.211.11.130
[15:26] <mpp> yep
[15:26] <mpp> seems like i had a temp dns problem
[15:26] <mpp> never mind
[15:26] <mpp> thanx
[15:27] <mpp> has anyone else a working package / even an older one ?
[15:28] <nextgens> it's gonna take 2mins
[15:28] <nextgens> just hold on
[15:29] <mpp> ah
[15:29] <mpp> sure
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[15:31] <nextgens> http://mirror0.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/wrapper_Linux.zip
[15:31] <nextgens> those are the libraries
[15:31] <nextgens> mpp> please replace all the existing files with those and report back :)
[15:32] <mpp> okay
[15:33] <mpp> starting up a clean run
[15:36] <nextgens> so?
[15:38] <mpp> was on the phone
[15:38] <mpp> hang on a second
[15:39] <mpp> nope
[15:39] <mpp> ERROR | wrapper | 2008/08/31 17:37:00 | Startup failed: Timed out waiting for a signal from the JVM.
[15:39] <nextgens> okay
[15:39] <nextgens> well, that's a different issue
[15:39] <nextgens> try to run ./update.sh now :)
[15:40] <mpp> aha
[15:40] <mpp> as the jvm is still running ?
[15:40] <nextgens> btw, when did you install the node?
[15:40] <mpp> today ! fresh install
[15:40] <nextgens> is that on a fresh install or a really old one?
[15:40] <nextgens> hmm
[15:40] <nextgens> I must have screwed things up then :|
[15:40] <mpp> so update.sh said i am up to date
[15:41] <mpp> whats next ? :-)
[15:41] <nextgens> I'm effraid I'll have to dig deeper into the install process and fix it
[15:41] <mpp> i must add that i am running as user nobody
[15:41] <mpp> in the run.sh
[15:41] <nextgens> so you're on linux/x86-32, right ?
[15:41] <mpp> yep
[15:41] <mpp> what else ;-)
[15:52] <mpp> anything else i can provide to help ?
[15:52] <nextgens> no, thanks
[15:52] <mpp> do you have a working package for me for the time beeing
[15:53] <mpp> i would like to start the node in the meanwhile
[15:53] <mpp> maybe an older one
[15:53] <nextgens> you can try the offline proceedure
[15:53] <nextgens> with the tarball
[15:53] <mpp> ahmm..
[15:54] <mpp> where do i get this ?
[15:54] <nextgens> let me restart my browser
[15:54] <Tommy[D]> probably this one: http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/freenet07.tar.gz
[15:54] <nextgens> yes, this one
[15:55] <nextgens> hmmmm
[15:55] <mpp> thats the one i am using all the time
[15:55] <nextgens> here the node did start
[15:55] <nextgens> I've just setup a new node and it worked
[15:55] <mpp> ill try again
[15:55] <nextgens> have you ever tried freenet before?
[15:56] <nextgens> (could be a java web start caching problem and an old installer)
[15:56] <mpp> not on my ubuntu machine - no
[15:56] <mpp> maybe a problem whith the java version
[15:56] <nextgens> what does "java -version" says?
[15:57] <mpp> java version "1.6.0_06"
[15:57] <mpp> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[15:57] <mpp> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 10.0-b22, mixed mode)
[15:58] <nextgens> that should be fine
[15:58] <mpp> i guess so
[15:58] <nextgens> okay
[15:58] <nextgens> so:
[15:58] <nextgens> java -jar Freenet/Uninstaller/uninstaller.jar
[15:58] <mpp> other java apps work good
[15:58] <nextgens> that's the command line you need for uninstalling
[15:58] <mpp> ahm.. okay
[15:58] <nextgens> when it's done you can get a fresh installer from:
[15:58] <nextgens> wget http://mirror0.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar
[15:59] <nextgens> then to start it:
[15:59] <nextgens> java -jar new_installer.jar
[15:59] <mpp> i'll give it a shot
[15:59] <mpp> is it normal that detecting the ports takes a long time ?
[15:59] <mpp> like 5 minutes or so
[15:59] <nextgens> no it's not
[16:00] <mpp> ah
[16:00] <nextgens> is your loopback interface set up properly?
[16:00] <mpp> like ?
[16:00] <nextgens> what does "sudo ifconfig lo" gives?
[16:00] <nextgens> -s
[16:00] <mpp> 127.0.0.1
[16:00] <nextgens> I mean, can you pastebin the full output please?
[16:00] <mpp> 127.0.0.1
[16:10] <nextgens> mpp> still around?
[16:10] <nextgens> which version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:10] <mpp> yep
[16:10] <mpp> im on it
[16:10] <mpp> 8.04.1
[16:13] <mpp> hm..
[16:13] <mpp> on another machine it works just fine
[16:16] <nextgens> well if you could find out what's going on on the non-working computer, that would be great
[16:16] <mpp> what is the wrapper actually good for if 1run.sh points to just "java"
[16:16] <mpp> of course
[16:16] <mpp> already digging in the deep
[16:17] <nextgens> if the port-detection stuff is taking 5mins there is already something bad going on
[16:17] <nextgens> you can start your investigation there
[16:17] * nextgens can provide the needed jar to test
[16:17] <mpp> bring it up mate !
[16:18] <nextgens> you already have it in fact: "java -jar Freenet/bin/bindtest.jar 8888"
[16:18] <nextgens> that should return fast
[16:19] <nextgens> if it doesn't you should kill -INT the pid of the process
[16:19] <nextgens> and capture the output
[16:19] <mpp> okay..
[16:22] <mpp> not even as root it's responding
[16:22] <mpp> i can only kill it with -9
[16:22] <nextgens> okay
[16:22] <nextgens> try -QUIT on it
[16:23] <mpp> hold on
[16:23] <nextgens> it should print a thread dump
[16:24] <mpp> http://pastebin.com/m2900d384
[16:25] <nextgens> huh
[16:25] <nextgens> stuck on "new ServerSocket()"
[16:25] <nextgens> okay
[16:25] <nextgens> so let's assume it's not a jvm problem and focus on the problem itself
[16:26] <nextgens> can you do "strace java -jar Freenet/bin/bindtest.jar 8888" please?
[16:26] <nextgens> (what matters is not the beginning but the end of the output)
[16:26] <nextgens> when it's stuck in fact :)
[16:26] <nextgens> what is it blocking on?
[16:27] <mpp> gee
[16:27] <mpp> how much of the output do you need
[16:27] <nextgens> the last 2 lines for instance
[16:27] <mpp> mmap2(NULL, 331776, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7d9a000
[16:27] <mpp> mprotect(0xb7d9a000, 4096, PROT_NONE) = 0
[16:27] <mpp> clone(child_stack=0xb7dea4c4, flags=CLONE_VM|CLONE_FS|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_SIGHAND|CLONE_THREAD|CLONE_SYSVSEM|CLONE_SETTLS|CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID, parent_tidptr=0xb7deabd8, {entry_number:6, base_addr:0xb7deab90, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}, child_tidptr=0xb7deabd8) = 5418
[16:27] <mpp> futex(0xb7deabd8, FUTEX_WAIT, 5418, NULL
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[16:30] <nextgens> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434938
[16:31] <nextgens> apparently it's a ubuntu-centric bug
[16:31] <nextgens> yetAnotherOne
[16:31] <mpp> cool so downgrade is out of the question
[16:31] <mpp> so freenet is out.
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[16:32] <nextgens> well, that's not what I meant :)
[16:59] <smariot> distros shouldn't add their own bugs, they should come standard with the software so that everyone can experience them.
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[19:14] <Barvinok> hi all. is there any way to make freenet 0.7 understand absolute pathnames in freenet.ini ? (0.7 , windows)
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[19:19] <Barvinok> whenever i set something like this : node.extraPeerDataDir=D:\FreeNet\extra-peer-data
[19:19] <GhostDog> anybody home?
[19:19] <Barvinok> an error pops out in a wrapper log : INFO | jvm 1 | 2008/08/31 22:10:42 | freenet.node.NodeInitException: Could not find or create extra peer data directory (22)
[19:20] <nextgens> Barvinok> it should understand absolute directories
[19:20] <nextgens> my guess is that the freenet user doesn't have the rights to create d:\freenet
[19:20] <nextgens> hence it doesn't work
[19:21] <Barvinok> shame on my balls
[19:21] <Barvinok> I thought exactly that few seconds before you answered...
[19:21] <Barvinok> thanks anyway
[19:21] <GhostDog> please, could you explain how to add friends?
[19:21] <nextgens> GhostDog> do you have friends who use freenet?
[19:22] <GhostDog> yes
[19:22] <nextgens> okay, cool
[19:22] <GhostDog> only 1 indeed
[19:22] <nextgens> then you can exchange your node's reference with them
[19:22] <GhostDog> where should I put it?
[19:22] <nextgens> go to http://localhost:8888/friends/
[19:22] <nextgens> there is a box there
[19:22] <GhostDog> sec
[19:22] <GhostDog> yup
[19:23] <nextgens> well, cut and paste his reference there and then click "add"
[19:24] <nextgens> you need to send him back your node's reference (the one you can find below the box) and he needs to do the same with yours for your nodes to connect
[19:24] <GhostDog> ohh... I do need to browse some file, do I?... I just didn't get what it is
[19:24] <nextgens> a node's reference is a big chunk of text
[19:25] <nextgens> you can exchange it over email for instance
[19:25] <nextgens> you don't need to put it into a file
[19:25] <nextgens> but you can :)
[19:26] <GhostDog> ok, thank you, mate :)
[19:31] <Barvinok> nextgens, if two freenet clients previously working in insecure mode pair in the aforementioned manner, are they considered part of darknet or just an isolated pair?
[19:32] <Barvinok> I mean, is there a solid continuity consisting of darknet users?
[19:34] <nextgens> there should be
[19:34] <nextgens> whether there is or not is an open question
[19:34] <nextgens> long-term only a darknet network can survive
[19:35] * nextgens is willing to release 1159
[19:35] <nextgens> testers should update and report bugs before I do :)
[19:37] <Barvinok> so you're saying that there may actually be not a solid darknet but a large number of smaller sub-darknets not connected to each other?
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[19:43] <Cooo> My node is still reconstructing the database after all the errors I got earlier (testers channel) before that is done I can't test anything..
[19:44] <Cooo> Still ~500.000 keys to go through
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[21:22] <FreenetLogBot> r22288 (1158) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
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[21:28] <Barvinok> i accidentally added a key to a blacklist using thaw. how do i remove it from a blacklist?
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[22:45] <kryl> hi
[22:49] <kryl> http://code.bulix.org/o0avs7-68226 < exchange refs please
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[23:36] <Kedlun> hey I am having some trouble installing fms on linux can anyone help me out?
[23:37] <Kedlun> when i type: " cmake -D I_HAVE_READ_THE_README=ON ." I get the error "CMake Error: The source directory "~/.Freenet/fms-linux-i386-bin-0.3.18" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt."
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[23:38] <Kedlun> I installed cmake through synaptic cleanly so I dont htink it is that. Poco, too
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