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[7:04] <HellMind> fcp.allowedHosts=0.0.0.0 <- can i do this?
[7:04] <HellMind> what can I do to access it everywhere
[7:07] <HellMind> how can i access to it !
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[7:12] <Luke771> HellMind, I would use ssh
[7:14] <HellMind> then
[7:14] <HellMind> ?
[7:14] <HellMind> i want to use frost
[7:14] <Luke771> ssh -X ?
[7:14] <HellMind> but i must update that allow host setting everytime i need to connect
[7:15] <Luke771> well
[7:15] <HellMind> and how can i update that
[7:15] <HellMind> if i dont got access from outside
[7:15] <Luke771> first of all, what does "everywhere" mean? Really everywhere, or the same places all the time? Within your LAN or outside?
[7:15] <HellMind> lynx?, or stoping the server editing the ini thats a pain!
[7:15] <HellMind> my node got a single iface
[7:16] <HellMind> the ip (internet one) no lan
[7:16] <Luke771> but is it from the same IP/host (or a few ones)
[7:16] <HellMind> so everywhere is from a place with dynip
[7:16] <Luke771> hm
[7:17] <Luke771> how fast is the connection?
[7:17] <Luke771> could you use ssh -X?
[7:17] <HellMind> 1m
[7:17] <HellMind> how?
[7:17] <HellMind> i got access
[7:17] <Luke771> ssh -X <ip>
[7:17] <HellMind> thats the only way i can configure the server
[7:17] <HellMind> then?
[7:17] <HellMind> Luke771 i want to use frost with that node :@
[7:17] <Luke771> then you can run X apps directly from the shost and display them where you are
[7:17] <Luke771> you can do that
[7:18] <Luke771> if the connection is fast enough
[7:18] <pmpp> or maybe from outside client "ssh -L fcpport:127.0.0.1:fcpport user@mynodehost" and lauch frost from outside client ( can keep it on a usb stick )
[7:18] <Luke771> with ssh -X you get a shell running on your box, with the ability of launching GUI apps
[7:18] <Sid_> anyoneone want to trade refs? here's mine http://code.bulix.org/66bdk8-68165?raw
[7:18] <Luke771> Sid_: enable opennet
[7:18] <HellMind> Luke771 i dont want to launch frost in there :(
[7:19] <HellMind> Sid_ i want to , tell how im noob -> private
[7:19] <Luke771> well, if the IP where you are changes all the time...
[7:19] <Luke771> at least, does the hostname stay the same?
[7:19] <Sid_> ddns
[7:19] <HellMind> i already tried with the hostname
[7:19] <HellMind> and instwork
[7:20] <Luke771> Sid_: HellMind "strangers darknet" is way more insecure than opennet
[7:20] <HellMind> if you enter the host, it saves the resolved ip in the ini
[7:20] <Luke771> if you don't know anyone you trust that runs freenet, just run opennet
[7:20] <Sid_> why's that
[7:20] <Luke771> because darknet peers are trusted by definition
[7:20] <Sid_> broadcasting is insecure
[7:20] <HellMind> maybe i can get along with Sid_ friendship
[7:21] <HellMind> I bet on Sid_
[7:21] <Sid_> hi hell
[7:21] <Luke771> well, the fact that you run freenet is already known because you just came in here and said that
[7:21] <Luke771> now it's even worse, because as you posted your ref, I can tell where you run your node
[7:22] <HellMind> -_-
[7:22] <Luke771> and if many things in life aren't sure, there's one thing that is sure as hell: this channel is monitored
[7:22] <HellMind> by who?
[7:22] <HellMind> god?
[7:22] <pmpp> by FreenetLogBot
[7:22] <Sid_> no god here!
[7:22] <Luke771> so now the NSA/CIA/FBI/Whatever also know where your node is
[7:22] <Luke771> they know where my node is too, but they also know that I'll leave freenet when it becomes illegal
[7:23] <HellMind> i think we are not so important
[7:23] <Luke771> if you plan to stay on freenet when it becomes illegal, you should stay low profile
[7:23] <Sid_> you live outside us then.
[7:23] <HellMind> guys so, with my topic, there is no way to gain access to my freenet server, no password auth method.
[7:24] <HellMind> o maybe with a vpn or tunnel?
[7:24] <Luke771> inside or outside the US is way less important than you think. the whole "free" world is going fascist not the US alone
[7:24] <Luke771> anyhow
[7:24] <Luke771> lets get back on topic
[7:24] <Sid_> i luke you have problems
[7:24] <Luke771> VPN might do it, I don't know for sure
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[7:25] <Luke771> yes I have a big problem, I say exactly what I think, and I think stuff thet people don't want to hear
[7:25] <HellMind> I wonder why nobody need to do what i do
[7:25] <Luke771> (see?)
[7:25] <Luke771> maybe they do, but fixed it without having to ask, or asked some time ago
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[7:27] <Luke771> I know for usre that ssh -X does the trick but if you don't want to run GUI apps remotely, I don't know. You could try VPN, I never done that but I guess it should work
[7:27] <HellMind> freenet needs an auth method, so if anybody hack/root a server, then can install a freenet node and use it!, like fxp and a lot of stuf
[7:27] <HellMind> Luke771 there is no advantage in runing frost there
[7:27] <Luke771> you can hack a boxk and install freenet on it, why not
[7:28] <Luke771> there is no advantage in riunning frost in the first place
[7:28] <HellMind> cuz then if you want to login, you need to doit from the "allowed host"
[7:28] <Luke771> at least so long it's flooded
[7:28] <HellMind> frost is a cool simple client :S , but isnt a frost problem, is fcp one
[7:28] <Luke771> well
[7:28] <Luke771> I told you what I know
[7:29] <HellMind> Thanks for that
[7:29] <Luke771> ssh does work, vpn may work
[7:29] <Luke771> that's all I know
[7:29] <HellMind> maybe there is another way to doit
[7:29] <Luke771> maybe, yes
[7:29] <Luke771> let us know if you find it
[7:30] <HellMind> but why i cant set that to 0.0.0.0
[7:30] <Luke771> try
[7:30] <HellMind> or a super range
[7:30] <HellMind> isnt work
[7:30] <Luke771> who said you cant?
[7:30] <Luke771> oh, so that's why
[7:31] <HellMind> you can but it isn't work
[7:34] <HellMind> And the worst is I can't find the documentation about fcp.allowedHosts
[7:36] <HellMind> then I will stop runing my 24hs node till I found a way
[7:37] <pmpp> HellMind> what you need is fcp.bindTo=0.0.0.0 AND fcp.allowedHosts=0.0.0.0
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[7:40] <Luke771> OMG! some guy threathened to stop running his node 24/7! Call the cops!
[7:41] <Luke771> jk
[7:41] <Luke771> btw I have to gpo now, I'll be back later
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[7:43] <HellMind> i got all the cp you need so you will regreit :P
[7:43] <HellMind> pmpp its like that but isnt work
[7:44] <pmpp> did you put fcp.allowedHostsFullAccess=0.0.0.0 ?
[7:44] <HellMind> yes
[7:45] <HellMind> I think it got some protection to ignore that
[7:45] <pmpp> it doesn't work then you must use ssh port forwarding
[7:45] <HellMind> ssh port forwarding?
[7:45] <pmpp> and run frost on the client outside
[7:46] <pmpp> ssh -L <fcpport>:127.0.0.1:<fcpport> user@yournodehost
[7:47] <pmpp> that will bring the fcp port on 127.0.0.1 on client for frost
[7:47] <pmpp> with full access
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[7:48] <HellMind> wait, imust execute that where?
[7:48] <HellMind> my client is wxp
[7:48] <pmpp> then use putty
[7:48] <pmpp> putty has options for that
[7:49] <HellMind> its a raw type?
[7:49] <HellMind> nah dunno, putty doesnt gives that option
[7:49] <HellMind> how is that called? tunnel over ssh?
[7:49] <pmpp> it does put not on command line
[7:50] <pmpp> go in config
[7:50] <pmpp> connection > ssh > tunnels
[7:50] <pmpp> "add new forwarded port"
[7:51] <HellMind> mmm
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[7:52] <HellMind> source port is my fcp port right?
[7:52] <pmpp> yes
[7:52] <HellMind> destination is the ssh server?
[7:52] <pmpp> destination 127.0.0.1:<same fcpport>
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[7:53] <HellMind> and now what?
[7:53] <pmpp> that should make a line like L<port> 127.0.0.1:<port> in the box upper
[7:53] <HellMind> its done
[7:53] <pmpp> then connect
[7:54] <pmpp> and tell frost to use localhost with the port
[7:55] <HellMind> my local port is still closed
[7:55] <HellMind> let me try again
[7:56] <HellMind> it works :D
[7:56] <HellMind> now frost
[7:57] <HellMind> I will review all the putty options! thank you man! you are a guru
[7:59] <HellMind> do you use frost?
[8:01] <nextgens> try a wildcard
[8:01] <nextgens> *
[8:01] <nextgens> 0.0.0.0 matches nothing
[8:02] <HellMind> nah, pmpp way is more secure
[8:02] <nextgens> of course it is.... but it's not freenet related
[8:03] <HellMind> its a lack usability of freenet
[8:04] <nextgens> why did you dig 0.0.0.0 from?
[8:04] <nextgens> it's not matching
[8:04] <nextgens> if you used 255.255.255.255 it would have worked
[8:04] <HellMind> 0.0.0.0 is stantard
[8:04] <nextgens> for the bindTo
[8:04] <nextgens> but not for matching
[8:05] <HellMind> I think there are another aplications that 0.0.0.0 means everyone
[8:05] <HellMind> maybe i get it from there
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[8:14] <HellMind> I only know frost, is there any other app like that but better?
[8:15] <TheSeeker> FMS is better for some definitions of better.
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[8:23] <HellMind> where can I get FMS?
[8:26] <HellMind> or fms is like a forum on the webside?
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[8:46] <HellMind> give me info about fms
[8:47] <saces> hi.
[8:47] <saces> nextgens: does the theme problem still exist?
[8:58] <TheSeeker> sorry, fms is only on freenet ... lets see if I can get a current address before someone else does.
[9:01] <saces> TheSeeker: its in the default bookmarks: Freenet related software and documentation -> Freenet Message System
[9:07] <TheSeeker> yeah, but I didn't have freenet running, and I'm distracted by doing programming on another project atm
[9:08] <TheSeeker> started freenet after my last message, then promptly forgot I was supposed to be using it for something :P
[9:08] <TheSeeker> USK@0npnMrqZNKRCRoGojZV93UNHCMN-6UU3rRSAmP6jNLE,~BG-edFtdCC1cSH4O3BWdeIYa8Sw5DfyrSV-TKdO5ec,AQACAAE/fms/78/
[9:10] <TheSeeker> and now I look dumb. saces, you could have directed your comment toward HellMind instead of me >_>
[9:23] <HellMind> when linux guys will learn to do human's webpages
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[9:51] <nextgens> hi
[9:52] <nextgens> saces> it's affecting both plugins and fproxy here, but it might be related to my local changes
[10:02] <nextgens> saces> it's my local changes in fact, forget it :)
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[10:23] <TheSeeker> my node is too old to connect, and SVN is borken ;_;
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[13:47] * nextgens would appreciate testing of his last commit
[13:47] <nextgens> but update your backups first :)
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[14:46] <p0s> whats the progress of java FMS/frost alternative?
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[14:54] <saces> p0s: sloly ongoing... you want join/help? ;)
[14:54] <toad_> saces: would it be possible for you to implement revocation on plugins-over-freenet reasonably quickly?
[14:55] <toad_> saces: it would be great to have that for 0.8; granted it would be great to have a working fms java thingy too, but that's a much bigger project imho
[14:55] <toad_> saces: once we have revocation, we can make official plugin update happen over freenet, that's something we should have for 0.8
[14:56] <p0s> saces: i would like to but unfortunately my reallife is really annoying me and i got no time =(#
[14:58] <p0s> is it a big deal?
[14:58] <toad_> FMS/java? yes that's a big deal
[14:58] <toad_> it would be very helpful to have it for 0.8
[14:58] <p0s> it would be a damn killer feature
[14:59] <toad_> yeah
[14:59] <toad_> it would be much easier to use than FMS, and we could inline it in freesites
[15:00] <p0s> i talked to quite a few people and easy to use messaging would make them try freenet even though they are not into computer stuff at all
[15:00] <p0s> just because of the anonymity and stuff
[15:00] <toad_> well, ian has decided that it's a separate project so i can't spend any time on it ... feel free to argue with him, he's around now temporarily
[15:01] <toad_> but if saces and others can get it working, that'd be awesome
[15:01] <toad_> i am willing/allowed to do code review if it's an official plugin
[15:01] <toad_> but not actually hack on it
[15:01] <toad_> anyway i don't have time to hack on it
[15:01] <p0s> so was there an decision to also have the UI be a webinterface thing and no normal GUI like frost?
[15:02] <toad_> there can be a normal GUI too
[15:02] <toad_> the architecture as far as people have said is to have it accessible via FCP
[15:02] <p0s> ok
[15:02] <toad_> so you'd have WoT -> FMS -> FMS-web
[15:02] <toad_> or WoT -> FMS -> FCP -> Frost
[15:03] <p0s> kk
[15:04] <p0s> i mean there were like 2 or 3 people on frost talking about doing a java implementation
[15:04] <p0s> so saces you are the only one who actually did something or what?
[15:12] <nextgens> p0s> batosai is working on a trust-plugin
[15:12] <nextgens> but something more generic: the WoT part toad_ told you about
[15:12] <p0s> and saces fms plugin works on top of it?
[15:12] <nextgens> yeah
[15:12] <p0s> okay, fine
[15:13] <p0s> ... by the way, for the past week or so my node has been crashing every day.
[15:13] <p0s> i didnt really change anything, i even gave it more memory now.
[15:14] <saces> p0s: i heard this talking too, but did not seen code or so...
[15:14] <nextgens> p0s> get lattest trunk and see if it fixes it with your low mem setting :)
[15:15] <nextgens> *latest
[15:15] <p0s> STATUS | wrapper | 2008/08/25 05:45:08 | JVM requested a restart.
[15:15] <p0s> thats all, then it does a thread dump
[15:20] <nextgens> p0s> with current trunk?
[15:22] <nextgens> I wouldn't be surprised if it breaks things though
[15:22] <p0s> with current stable
[15:24] <saces> p0s: you find my code scribble here: USK%40MYLAnId-ZEyXhDGGbYOa1gOtkZZrFNTXjFl1dibLj9E,Xpu27DoAKKc8b0718E-ZteFrGqCYROe7XBBJI57pB4M,AQACAAE/FMSPlugin-trunk/7/
[15:33] <saces> toad_: how long is the time to 0.8?
[16:00] <toad_> saces: approx 4 months to alpha 1
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[16:29] <Ufxpoi> Hello
[16:31] <Ufxpoi> Fuck This
[16:31] <Ufxpoi> I wanna use freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenet
[16:31] <Ufxpoi> MAn
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[16:38] <nextgens> testers should update to r22138, previous builds were broken
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[16:52] <Tommy[D]> nextgens: previous = ? Beginning with which build?
[16:53] <nextgens> my first commit today
[16:53] <nextgens> but well, stable is broken too; it OOMs
[16:57] <nextgens> here the node starts in 18secs
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[19:01] <Iso-Nisse> so devs.... if i get alot of : Caught exception, closing database: chk-cache- (java.io.IOException: Datafel (CRC-fel, Cyclic Redundancy Check))
[19:01] <Iso-Nisse> in my wrapper.log file
[19:02] <Iso-Nisse> and the node want start up
[19:02] <Iso-Nisse> untill i erase my store
[19:03] <Tommy[D]> Can you nopaste your wrapper.log?
[19:05] <Iso-Nisse> sure any good place?
[19:05] <Tommy[D]> http://rafb.net/paste
[19:10] <Iso-Nisse> http://rafb.net/p/r5376f21.html
[19:10] <Iso-Nisse> have started to happan very often now last month
[19:11] <Iso-Nisse> is it a freenet problem or maybe a hardrive/computer problem?
[19:12] <Tommy[D]> Iso-Nisse: How much free space is on that disc and how big is your database?
[19:14] <Iso-Nisse> well right 49gb free
[19:14] <Iso-Nisse> and data store is set to 40
[19:17] <Tommy[D]> toad_ / nextgens: You know something more about this exception?
[19:20] <Iso-Nisse> it was not long time ago i erases my store last time so i cannot be very big atm
[19:20] <Tommy[D]> i dont know the exact error, my only idea was some out-of-disc-space error
[19:23] <Tommy[D]> now probably between 10 and 15GB (you can check by checking the size of the datastore dir inside the freenet dir
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[19:35] <nextgens> Iso-Nisse> your hard drive is dying
[19:35] <nextgens> or your FS got corrupted
[19:35] <nextgens> either way you'd better do some serious backuping
[19:36] <Iso-Nisse> oh i see
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[23:19] <Lykos> HI would you say its good to run a freenode for about 6 hours a day
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[23:39] <toad_> Lykos: maybe
[23:52] <Lykos> Ok its better than nothing... Are there some people who would like to share their contacts?
[23:53] <Lykos> i have to find people, at least 5, because i dont like the opennet
[23:54] <Lykos> pleaze contact me over wolfgang.brehm@brehm-rv.de
[23:54] <Lykos> or over skype:arachidonylethanolamid
[23:57] <toad_> doing that reduces performance significantly for no significant improvement in security
[23:57] <toad_> how do you know the people on this channel aren't the NSA
[23:57] <Lykos> because i talk to them?
[23:58] <Lykos> so not
[23:58] <toad_> eh?
[23:58] <toad_> that doesn't make sense
[23:59] <toad_> if you know them, then add them
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