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IRC Log for 2008-08-15

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[0:00] <nextgens> it's getting late here
[0:01] <toad_> yeah.. we should have the 3 axis debate on the list
[0:01] <nextgens> posted
[0:01] <nextgens> reply there
[0:01] <toad_> imho we can get it down to 2 though, although maybe there's an argument that on higher levels of network paranoia we should not do risky optimisations even if we do ultimately trust the peer
[0:02] <nextgens> have a look to my message
[0:02] <toad_> ok
[0:02] <nextgens> it's not as clear as I wished
[0:02] <nextgens> but well it's late and my brain gets cloudy
[0:03] <toad_> good night
[0:04] <nextgens> toad_> on a side note: I'm planning to use YourKit on freenet: we can get an open-source license as we are oss
[0:04] <toad_> what's yourkit?
[0:04] <nextgens> shall I contact them myself or do you want to do it as you're an offical representative of FPI
[0:04] <nextgens> a profiller
[0:04] <nextgens> *profiler
[0:04] <toad_> i don't mind if they don't mind
[0:04] <nextgens> http://yourkit.com/overview/index.jsp
[0:05] <toad_> mind you there are bazillions of free profilers
[0:05] <nextgens> both ian and sdiz are using it
[0:05] <nextgens> yeah
[0:05] <nextgens> but their is really kicking asses
[0:05] * nextgens has been coached by a friend about it today
[0:06] <toad_> well cool
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[0:07] <toad_> more profiling is always good
[0:19] <nextgens> bbl
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[6:53] <sdiz> nextgens: which plugin(s) are broken ?
[6:57] <nextgens> sdiz> I think I've fixed it; you had broken StringArrOption.isDefault()
[6:58] <sdiz> oh.. thanks
[6:58] <nextgens> sdiz> imho we shouldn't keep "new String[0]" as the default value but something else
[6:58] <nextgens> like "null"
[7:04] <nextgens> sdiz> but they are still remaining problems with your implementation of the restart thingy
[7:04] <nextgens> if you change the database type once, it works
[7:04] <nextgens> but twice without rebooting it doesn't
[7:05] <nextgens> (and it doesn't throw either)
[7:05] <nextgens> it should either be supported or say that it doesn't work ;)
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[7:06] <nextgens> and well, it should display a user-alert saying to the user that a reboot is needed
[7:06] <nextgens> right now it doesn't
[7:06] <sdiz> hm.. let me look at this..
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[8:30] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, We appear to be having some European connectivity issues this morning, I'm about to do a tiny spot of re-hubbing, it should only hurt for a second! Have a great day and thank you for using freenode.
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[9:58] <FreenetLogBot> r21888 (SNMP) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
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[11:19] <FreenetLogBot> r21895 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
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[11:20] <nextgens> Bombe> dbkr> saces> vivee> I have applied for a yourkit (http://www.yourkit.com/java/profiler/index.jsp) open-source license; if you want one bug me
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[12:21] <FreenetLogBot> r21897 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
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[12:57] <FreenetLogBot> Website is up to date with r21902
[13:00] <FreenetLogBot> Website is up to date with r21903
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[13:30] <toad_> hey folk
[13:32] <nextgens> rehi
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[14:09] <FreenetLogBot> Emu wasn't able to build r21904 (XMLSpider) -- see error message on http://emu.freenetproject.org/~svn-build/build-r21904.txt
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[15:02] <nextgens> can testers upgrade to latest trunk please?
[15:02] * nextgens is willing to release 1156 soon
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[17:11] <Bombe> nextgens, just skipped through their "features" page. I want one! :)
[17:12] <nextgens> heh
[17:12] <nextgens> the email is already sent :s
[17:13] <nextgens> will ask them for another batch in a few days
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[18:32] <Cooo> nextgens: Before you release, do you have the time to look into an Error I got? I tried to do a search with XMLLibrarian and got an "Archive too big" error http://code.bulix.org/tn418a-68027?raw
[18:32] <FreenetLogBot> r21912 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[18:36] <Bombe> nextgens, okay. :)
[18:36] <Bombe> dbkr, do you have a PGP key?
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[18:39] <Bombe> Hmm, actually he seems to have about a dozen.
[18:41] <nextgens> Cooo> that's not the node's fault: it's the plugin
[18:41] <Cooo> nextgens: Ahhh.
[18:42] <nextgens> it needs to set a bigger size, that's all
[18:42] <nextgens> how big is USK@5hH~39FtjA7A9~VXWtBKI~prUDTuJZURudDG0xFn3KA,GDgRGt5f6xqbmo-WraQtU54x4H~871Sho9Hz6hC-0RA,AQACAAE/Search/11/ ?
[18:47] <saces> 88.1 KiB
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[18:57] <nextgens> packetsender hung for 3sec waiting for a lock
[18:57] <nextgens> great
[19:07] <FreenetLogBot> r21915 (XMLLibrarian) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:12] <saces> nextgens: after updating to trunk my logger settings are gone :(
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[19:16] <Bombe> Hey, batosai.
[19:22] <saces> nextgens: opennet was also turned off.
[19:25] <FreenetLogBot> r21916 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[19:26] <saces> nextgens: seems the entire opennet conf was trashed.
[19:27] <nextgens> saces> which build did you update from?
[19:28] <saces> was few commits (3~5)after 1155
[19:32] <saces> nextgens: after shutdown node and fix the port in ini, its gone again
[19:39] <nextgens> well, enable logging at minor on freenet.config and grab logs
[19:39] <nextgens> works for me
[19:40] <nextgens> btw sdiz has been doing most of the work on the conf. framework, not me :)
[19:48] <Cooo> hmmmm. r21914 is now showing any pictures when I try to broswe freenet..
[19:48] <Cooo> now / not
[19:51] <Cooo> And most of the freepages I try to visit gives me "Parse error: Missing ':' in request header field"
[19:53] <FreenetLogBot> r21917 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[20:02] <nextgens> hrrrm
[20:02] <nextgens> so it's broken?
[20:02] <Cooo> seems to be.
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[20:23] <FreenetLogBot> r21918 was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[20:25] <batosai> hi Bombe
[20:25] <batosai> hi all in fact ;)
[20:25] <Cooo> hi
[20:28] <saces> nextgens: the log minor setting is ini after shutdown, but reset to normal on startup. i cant produce logs :(
[20:30] <nextgens> saces> get r21920
[20:30] <nextgens> there was an obvious coding mistake
[20:32] <FreenetLogBot> r21920 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[20:39] <saces> no changes :(
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[20:50] <saces> nextgens: this looks not ok to me: new SubConfig("node.opennet", config);
[20:50] <nextgens> why?
[20:51] <nextgens> check your logs for exceptions
[20:52] <saces> how to distinguish from new SubConfig("node", config) in ini-file while loading?
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[20:53] <saces> the new SubConfig("node", config) is created first, get all node.* items.
[20:54] <saces> the later created new SubConfig("node.opennet", config) appaers now empty (items already in "node")
[21:02] <saces> nextgens: no exceptions.
[21:08] <Cooo> saces: Logging level?
[21:09] <saces> Cooo: setting is lost on startup.
[21:10] <saces> opennet setting too.
[21:12] <nextgens> with current head?
[21:14] <Cooo> Yeah.. I see now.. I upgraded from latest stable and my opennet is gone too.
[21:15] <nextgens> okay, that's bad
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[21:16] <nextgens> let's fix it
[21:16] <Cooo> Oooo. My node might be fcuked really bad :( I did run FreePlay3 a few weeks ago and my current log is reffering to freeplay now?
[21:16] <Cooo> hmmm
[21:18] <Cooo> that is really not good.
[21:19] <nextgens> but well, it works for me
[21:20] <nextgens> and freesite browsing works too
[21:20] <nextgens> show me your freenet.ini guys
[21:20] <Cooo> hmmm...
[21:20] <nextgens> I hope you have backups :)
[21:20] <Cooo> will do.
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[21:20] <Cooo> somewhere
[21:22] <Cooo> http://code.bulix.org/fctl75-68031?raw
[21:23] <Cooo> node.load.threadLimit=500 normally is set to 1800 on my node.
[21:25] <Cooo> I guess we had a rewrite of some of the configs sometime from latest stable till now.
[21:25] <nextgens> fproxy.passthroughMaxSize=6553599TiB
[21:25] <nextgens> that's probably causing problems
[21:25] <nextgens> as it's above Long.MAX_VALUE, no ?
[21:26] <nextgens> node.opennet.listenPort=-1
[21:26] <nextgens> that's why opennet got reset
[21:26] <nextgens> Cooo> do a ls in the directory and figure out what the port was
[21:26] <nextgens> try forcing it when the node is down
[21:27] <nextgens> maybe sdiz broke the "start from scratch" code when refactoring the conf. framework
[21:27] <Cooo> nextgens.
[21:28] <Cooo> I got the port so that is no problem
[21:29] <nextgens> okay, so what's the problem?
[21:29] <nextgens> is the node starting up properly now?
[21:29] <nextgens> the build was broken at some point
[21:29] <nextgens> so if you've upgraded in the timeframe it might have corrupted freenet.ini
[21:29] <nextgens> upgrade to trunk and restore a backup
[21:29] <nextgens> that should work and solve all your problmes
[21:30] <nextgens> if it doesn't tell me :)
[21:30] <Cooo> By "I got the port" I mean that I know what my opennet port is.. And Yep. I have an backup of freenet.ini , gonna try that.
[21:32] <Cooo> starting up with "original" (backed up) freenet.ini now.
[21:37] <Cooo> Damn.. my node is a slow starter :(
[21:43] <Cooo> ~10 minutes just to start the node. On a fast comp. Only the hdd that is somewhat older (400G SATA disk)
[21:45] <reflect> I'd doubt it won't do 70mb/s anyway.. as fast as they get, more or less
[21:45] <nextgens> hrrm
[21:46] <nextgens> trunk should startup way faster than stable
[21:47] <Cooo> nextgens: I really need to try this again as I might have missed something, but for now it seems that r21920 is changing my freenet.ini
[21:49] <Cooo> nextgens: sometimes the node starts in a minute or so but up to 10 minutes is normal for me and has been for a long time (6 months or even more) 300GB dedicated to store/cache
[21:51] <Cooo> this time the node started in ~one and a half minute..
[21:52] <Cooo> and now I am shure I used the ol freenet.ini , still it got overwritten with new settings on startup.
[21:53] <Cooo> I guess this needs to be dealt with before a new release.
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[22:00] <nextgens> sure
[22:00] <nextgens> but if there is no log nor exception I need to be able to reproduce it
[22:00] <nextgens> and so far I haven't managed to
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[22:07] <Cooo> I could try to set some logging levels when the node is not running but if it is like saces says that might be with no luck :( You know of any "Detailed priority thresholds" that I could set?
[22:16] <nextgens> freenet:MINOR
[22:16] <nextgens> or freenet.config:MINOR
[22:17] <Cooo> trying freenet.config.MINOR then.
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[22:22] <nextgens> Cooo> any result yet?
[22:22] <FreenetLogBot> r21924 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[22:23] <nextgens> what's taking so long for your node to startup?
[22:23] <nextgens> switch to the ram database if needed
[22:23] <nextgens> we want to test the code here ^-^
[22:25] <Cooo> Just started the node. I got hung up on other things :( Dunno what is taking so long for my node to startup, sometimes itÅ› fast but usually it is slow :(
[22:26] <Cooo> hmmm.. RAM database.. Mabye I should test it someday :)
[22:26] <nextgens> get a thread dump if it's stuck
[22:26] <nextgens> otherwise tail -F wrapper.log and tell me where it takes time
[22:26] <nextgens> alternatively pastebin your wrapper.log
[22:28] <Cooo> Node is up and running but I lost the logging levels during startup :(
[22:29] <Cooo> And this time it started pretty fast :)
[22:31] <Cooo> And my node still ain't loading any pictures when I try to browse freepages :(
[22:32] <Cooo> Parse error: Missing ':' in request header field
[22:33] <Cooo> when visiting some freesites
[22:33] <nextgens> okay
[22:33] <nextgens> which browser are you using?
[22:33] <Cooo> and nothing obvious in logs
[22:34] <Cooo> firefox
[22:34] <nextgens> hrrrrmmm
[22:34] <nextgens> why does it work here then??
[22:34] <nextgens> do you have the error when you stay on fproxys' pages?
[22:34] <Cooo> nope
[22:35] <Cooo> fproxy pages even load pictures
[22:35] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected a network glitch on http://mirror1.freenetproject.org/ : it has been disabled
[22:35] <nextgens> hrrrmm
[22:35] <nextgens> give me a url which doesn't work
[22:38] <Cooo> Hmm.. Ephiphany browser works.... SeaMonkey gives me "Parse error: Missing ':' in request header field" when I try to visit Fproxy
[22:38] <Cooo> USK@QRZAI1nSm~dAY2hTdzVWXmEhkaI~dso0OadnppBR7kE,wq5rHGBI7kpChBe4yRmgBChIGDug7Xa5SG9vYGXdxR0,AQACAAE/frost/7/ does not work in firefox
[22:50] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected that http://mirror1.freenetproject.org/ is eligible to be back on the main mirror rotation list. Welcome Back!
[22:52] <nextgens> okay
[22:52] <nextgens> now I can reproduce :))
[22:52] <Cooo> woooaw. Something is really wrong.. freenets java process is taking ~ 60 - 70 % of my Q6600 CPU
[22:52] <Cooo> great :)
[22:53] <Cooo> shutting down FreeNet
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[23:03] <nextgens> Cooo> get what I've just commited
[23:03] <nextgens> should fix it
[23:03] <Cooo> nextgens: will do
[23:05] <FreenetLogBot> r21925 (1155) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[23:06] <Cooo> nextgens: Activelink pics loaded :)
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[23:10] <Cooo> forgot to copy freenet.ini backup.. restarting node with the backup
[23:12] <Cooo> Or not :( Seems like I moved freenet.ini instead of copying last time.
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[23:13] <Cooo> Hrrrm. I guess I need to get a recovery program for that. :(
[23:13] <Cooo> Still, I can try if it works by changing freenet.ini manually bafore starting the node
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[23:16] <Cooo> seems to be working. I changed Running threads to 1800 manually and the node picked it up.
[23:17] <nextgens> the testcase isn't up to the level
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[23:18] <Cooo> ?
[23:19] <Cooo> "Maximum size for transparent pass-through in fproxy" Ain't working though :(
[23:19] <FreenetLogBot> Emu wasn't able to build r21926 -- see error message on http://emu.freenetproject.org/~svn-build/build-r21926.txt
[23:28] <Cooo> I'm sorry but I really need to go to bed now, I will be back tomorrow and I am reading backlog if there is something that needs to be tested. Thanx for now and godnight.

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