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IRC Log for 2008-08-03

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[0:00] <Dieppe> mpo j'v"veux juste des srt pour the walll
[0:00] <Dieppe> -l
[0:04] <StorSnoken> Dieppe ok, do you know any black market site?
[0:05] <Dieppe> StorSnoken: that's not something I can answer if I'm not _really_ dead :p
[0:05] <StorSnoken> lol
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[3:10] <neuman1812> hey question. I just installed Freenet on a ubuntu VM server (no gui) when I point my browswer at the ip 192.168.1.101:8888 it cant find the site... what should I look for?
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[3:15] <neuman1812> I just installed Freenet on a ubuntu VM server (no gui) when I point my browswer at the ip 192.168.1.101:8888 it cant find the site... what should I look for?
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[4:03] <maha> wow its a channel
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[6:25] <TheSeeker> poor neuman. nobody was here to answer his question. I don't think I could've answered it either... has to do with manually adding INI settings to change the allowed hosts (since you can't get to FProxy until you do so)
[6:27] <TheSeeker> Since someone had the brilliant idea of only putting options into the ini file when they are not default, I couldn't tell you what the option is without doing work... and I'm far too lazy for that.
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[6:51] <beala> hmm if by 'no gui' he means no windows manager, he can still browse to 127.0.0.1:8888 through links or lynx on the ubuntu VM server then edit the config through the webpage
[6:51] <beala> he'll have to add he IP as an allowed host for fcp and fproxy
[6:51] <beala> then set it to bind to something other than localhost
[6:52] <beala> and by something other than localhost, i mean the IP of his server.
[6:53] <beala> it's pretty convoluted, tbh
[6:53] <beala> it should be much easier to set up a dediated freenet box
[6:53] <beala> than it is currently.
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[8:07] <nextgens> beala> TheSeeker> either propose something or stfu
[8:08] <nextgens> complaining doesn't serve any purpose except pissing people off (including me)
[8:12] <beala> wow not sure what i said to deserve that. i (1) answered his question, and (2) pointed out that setting up a dedicated box is difficult.
[8:12] <beala> not sure where i went wrong
[8:12] <nextgens> saying that it's convoluted
[8:13] <nextgens> it's documented on the website, including in the faq
[8:13] <nextgens> the instructions from the installer tells him to try to reach fproxy on the loopback address: not any other address
[8:14] <nextgens> by saying that it's convoluted you imply that you thought of a simpler way of doing the same thing, keeping the same level of security
[8:14] <nextgens> what I'm reproaching to you is not to explain to us what it is
[8:14] <nextgens> anyway
[8:15] <nextgens> bbiab
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[8:32] <beala> well fair enough. all i'm saying is that telling people to stfu right off the bat is a good way to lose donations/bug reports.
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[8:39] <pmpp> you say that , but maybe you are not obliged to read and parse this chan's logs all the day long to find atoms of usefull info.
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[8:51] <beala> ...
[8:51] <beala> well i've had just about enough of this channel.
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[9:25] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected a network glitch on http://mirror2.freenetproject.org/ : it has been disabled
[9:37] <FreenetLogBot> r21587 (1154) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
[9:40] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected that http://mirror2.freenetproject.org/ is eligible to be back on the main mirror rotation list. Welcome Back!
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[10:22] <FreenetLogBot> r21590 (KeyExplorer) was built successfully on emu, mirrors are updating
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[11:48] <batosai> saces: ping ?
[11:48] <batosai> do you have a minute ?
[11:49] <batosai> when I try to load a plugin, I get this :
[11:50] <batosai> could not load plugin: http://88.198.34.102/~mirror//alpha/plugins/*@file:///home/freenet/plugins/wot.jar.jar.url
[11:50] <batosai> It looks like the node tries to download it, but it is local.
[11:51] <batosai> Isn't *@file// the good way to tell it it is ?
[11:56] <saces> batosai: you are running trunk or stable?
[11:56] <kork> anybody ever looked at "wuala"? they're building a peer to peer storage network... non-anonymous though and server-backed, so content doesn't fall off
[11:56] <kork> also, it's closed source :|
[11:58] <saces> batosai: the local filename without any prefixes is it.
[11:59] <batosai> OK, thanks. I'll update the wiki page accordingly
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[12:24] <saces> batosai: keyexplorer is a sample how to implement FredPluginFCP
[12:27] <batosai> saces: Thanks, but for now, I'm trying to make it compile and the node load it ;)
[12:28] <batosai> I'm not used to build.xml files and am certainly missing something
[12:32] <saces> a sample http://dark-code.bulix.org/us5ytd-67877
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[12:39] <batosai> saces: this is the one I was using. It works now.
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[14:30] <gwern> so I just started up a fresh node; short of waiting days/weeks for my cache to be populated, and short of doing a lot of manual clicking, is there anyway to force in a lot of content?
[14:34] <reflect> I guess the index which you're warned about that it takes so long might be a good idea.. ?
[14:35] <gwern> heh. but wouldn't that just pull in the front page of the linked sites and nothing else?
[14:40] <reflect> I'm unsure of what exactly it does.. you said you wanted to pull in data, this is probably one way of doing just that
[14:43] <gwern> hm, I was kind of thinking of a spider
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[14:43] <gwern> like a spider to start with indices and travel down until all the links are dead or the cache full
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[16:12] <Tommy[D]> gwern: tried the plugin called xmlspider? (will use much ram)
[16:12] <gwern> Tommy[D]: never heard of it
[16:12] <gwern> but I have 4 gigs, so that should suffice
[16:13] <Tommy[D]> gwern: you might need to edit wrapper.conf to give freenet more ram for this
[16:14] <gwern> where can I find xmlspider?
[16:14] <gwern> google is being unhelpful
[16:14] <Tommy[D]> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/plugins/XMLSpider/
[16:15] <gwern> I want '[ ] XMLSpider-r21550.jar 01-Aug-2008 10:06 20K '?
[16:15] <Tommy[D]> yes
[16:16] <Tommy[D]> place it into your plugin folder
[16:16] <saces> gwern: go to plugin page and choose it from official plugins list
[16:16] <gwern> ok
[16:16] <Tommy[D]> saces: i dont have it in the plugin list...
[16:17] <gwern> Tommy[D]: it's in the dropdown
[16:17] <gwern> 'add an official plugin'
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[16:45] <gwern> ok, so it's installed and apparently running
[16:45] <gwern> any docs on what xmlspider is or how it works?
[16:46] <saces> http://wiki.freenetproject.org/XMLSpider
[16:47] <gwern> thanks
[16:51] <gwern> hm. the wiki pages aren't clear
[16:51] <gwern> does xmlspider start spidering freenet on its own?
[16:51] <Tommy[D]> once you loaded it, it does start, yes
[16:52] <gwern> I see
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[22:45] <gwern> if I download something to download/, and then I delete it, does it still hang around in my datastore as encrypted chunks?
[23:07] <pmpp> yes it can
[23:08] <gwern> 'can'?
[23:09] <pmpp> if not used anymore chunks drops out of datastore with time passing
[23:10] <gwern> oh, yeah/ that makes sense
[23:10] <gwern> but if there is no disk pressure, why would chunks get removed?
[23:12] <pmpp> there is disk pressure
[23:12] <pmpp> when your cache is running for long time , chunks you pass to your peers replace unused one
[23:12] <gwern> but if the cache is set to multi-gigs, and the freenet dir in its entirety is under a gig, then it has space to spare
[23:13] <pmpp> if it's a "new" datastore yes
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[23:33] <user1> refresh nicks
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