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[3:15] <infinity0> can someone point me to openDNS's DNS IPs?
[3:16] * phrosty points left
[3:16] <infinity0> er i'm trying to use it to bypass great firewall
[3:16] <phrosty> 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[3:16] <infinity0> but i can't access their website, for obvious reasons
[3:16] <infinity0> ty ^_^
[3:17] <phrosty> good luck :)
[3:17] <infinity0> np
[3:17] <infinity0> wait i mean thanks
[3:18] <Luke771> infinity0: in case opendns is blocked or filtered, you should be able to access the freenet website using the IP directly rather than going thru a dns server (I guess you knew that)
[3:19] <Luke771> besides, did you manage to access it?
[3:19] <infinity0> Luke771: it takes me to the pastebin instead
[3:19] <infinity0> 89.something
[3:19] <Luke771> hm
[3:19] <Luke771> try the ipv6 address
[3:19] <Luke771> wait
[3:20] <infinity0> hmm even with openDNS i'm still getting this:
[3:20] <infinity0> infinity0@infinity0:~$ host freenetproject.org
[3:20] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 209.145.54.50
[3:20] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 216.234.179.13
[3:20] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 64.33.88.161
[3:21] <Luke771> well, my 'show IP' firefox extension shows 2001:41c8:::2+1
[3:21] <infinity0> might be this connection being forced to DNS through chinese nameservers or something
[3:21] <Luke771> possible
[3:21] <infinity0> xl269@pip:~$ host freenetproject.org
[3:21] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 89.16.176.201
[3:21] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has IPv6 address 2001:41c8:102::2
[3:21] <infinity0> freenetproject.org mail is handled by 15 openvpn.freenetproject.org.
[3:21] <infinity0> from my ssh account elsewhere
[3:22] <Luke771> but the point is why couldn't you access it thru the ssh tunnel, you should look like located in UK or wherever that was
[3:22] <infinity0> DNS is blocked
[3:22] <infinity0> my browser looks up freenetproject.org and gets pointed to somewhere else
[3:22] <Luke771> hmpf
[3:22] <Luke771> well
[3:22] <infinity0> also, how do you access IPv6 addresses through thelocation bar?
[3:23] <phrosty> http://[::1]/
[3:24] <Luke771> I could get you a small VM with a GUI and everything that you could access with ssh -X but the problem is that I have an ISP problem and can't accept inbound connection, I'd need to initiate the connection, which means that you should stay connected all the time or you wouldn't be able to reconnect
[3:25] <infinity0> i think my ocnnection is probably too slow to use a -X forward
[3:25] <Luke771> besides, I don't know how to connect an ssh tunnel 'in reverse', with the server contacting the client
[3:25] <infinity0> you need to put GatewayPorts on on the sshd.config or something i think
[3:26] <infinity0> but anyway don't bother with that it won't work too well for me
[3:26] <Luke771> probably not the X
[3:26] <infinity0> also solving this DNS would mean i can play this game too :p
[3:26] <Luke771> but the ssh might work
[3:26] <infinity0> i don't see how? all i have to do atm is bypass DNS
[3:26] <infinity0> then i can use the ssh tunnel that i already have
[3:26] <Luke771> i mean if dns is blocked at your ssh server outside china, you'd need another server with dns accessible
[3:27] <infinity0> oh no, DNS is blocked over here
[3:27] <infinity0> i'm assuming my browser doesn't forward the DNS over the SSH
[3:27] <infinity0> because i can wget the thing through ssh
[3:27] <Luke771> yeah but then why can't you access freenet website thru ssh?
[3:27] <infinity0> but not browse it via the SOCKS proxy
[3:27] <infinity0> > "i'm assuming my browser doesn't forward the DNS over the SSH" :p
[3:27] <Luke771> oh ok
[3:27] <Luke771> hm..
[3:28] <Luke771> is that a chinese version? or a regular english browser?
[3:28] <Luke771> did you get it from a chinese server?
[3:28] <infinity0> regular iceweasel :p
[3:28] <Luke771> hm
[3:28] <infinity0> i'm in china only for 3 weeks, every software here is mine
[3:28] <Luke771> k
[3:29] <infinity0> oh, it would make sense if firefox was using my system's own DNS resolver
[3:29] <Luke771> you tried the ipv6? does it work?
[3:29] <infinity0> not yet, hang on
[3:30] <Luke771> hm?
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[3:31] <phrosty> should have setup a proxy at home before leaving
[3:31] <infinity0> it doesn't even try to load it it just takes me straight to a blank page :/
[3:31] <Luke771> hmpf
[3:31] <infinity0> phrosty: i have a ssh proxy but the trouble is getting my DNS resolver to go through it
[3:31] <Luke771> can you access opendns?
[3:31] <Luke771> er, you should, because it's not thru dns, you use the ip
[3:32] <infinity0> yeah but i'm pretty sure it's being redirected to chinese nameservers
[3:32] <Luke771> unless it's blocked some other way
[3:32] <infinity0> infinity0@infinity0:~$ host freenetproject.org 208.67.222.222
[3:32] <infinity0> Using domain server:
[3:32] <infinity0> Name: 208.67.222.222
[3:32] <infinity0> Address: 208.67.222.222#53
[3:32] <infinity0> Aliases:
[3:32] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 202.181.7.85
[3:32] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 202.106.1.2
[3:32] <infinity0> freenetproject.org has address 209.145.54.50
[3:32] <infinity0> and that's not what i get when i do the same command on my ssh account
[3:32] <infinity0> oh i see
[3:32] <Luke771> well if you can wget the website you can download it all and read it offline... kind of a PITA but it should work
[3:33] <infinity0> need an unblocked DNS server then
[3:33] <infinity0> yeah through my SSH lol
[3:33] <infinity0> is there a way to forward DNS requests over the SSH tunnel?
[3:35] <Luke771> dunno
[3:36] <Luke771> here
[3:36] <Luke771> network.proxy.socks_remote_dns
[3:36] <Luke771> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/18/tunnel-web-and-dns-traffic-over-ssh/
[3:37] <Luke771> (hopefully you get that page)
[3:37] <infinity0> aha :D thanks i'll try that
[3:37] <Luke771> you have a linux system I hope?
[3:38] <infinity0> yeah
[3:38] <Luke771> vool
[3:38] <Luke771> er cool
[3:38] <infinity0> YES IT WORKS :D
[3:39] <Luke771> otoh even on windows or mac, ssh is ssh anyway, the commands should be pretty much the same...
[3:39] <Luke771> yay
[3:39] <Luke771> fangoo gov't
[3:39] <infinity0> now to find a way to do that for all programs so i can play this game ¬.¬
[3:39] <infinity0> hehe
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[7:33] <ZwareShag> hi there
[7:34] <ZwareShag> since 6 hours or so my node has 12-16 "strangers" connected, but there is no traffic neither in nor out (netmeter), what happend ?
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[7:38] <ZwareShag> solved! :), wrong U/D speed settings...
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[8:14] <nextgens> infinity0> socks5 forwards dns requests as well
[8:14] <infinity0> oh, well firefox wasn't, i had to change a setting in about:config
[8:16] <nextgens> network.proxy.socks_remote_dns
[8:16] <nextgens> that's the setting you want to set to "true" :)
[8:16] <nextgens> and network.proxy.socks_version to 5
[8:16] <infinity0> yeah
[8:16] <nextgens> freenet ought to work even behind the great firewall out of the box
[8:17] <infinity0> yeah it does
[8:17] <nextgens> provided you use the offline installer
[8:17] <nextgens> the problem is accessing it at the first place I gues
[8:17] <nextgens> +s
[8:17] <infinity0> i got it before i came to china :p
[8:18] <infinity0> also, the freenet website works fine through firefox with a socks proxy plus the dns forward
[8:19] <nextgens> at some point they did block our ip addresses as well
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[8:19] <infinity0> whoops, did you say sometihng?
[8:20] <infinity0> oh yeah the IPs are blocked but i'm tunneling through SSH
[8:24] <nextgens> even the new ips are blocked?
[8:27] <nextgens> could testers upgrade to latest trunk please?
[8:27] * nextgens is willing to release a new build soon
[8:27] <infinity0> oh it's fine i can ping it
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[8:38] <Luke771> r21441
[8:38] <Luke771> should I look for something in particular?
[8:38] <nextgens> bugs :p
[8:38] <Luke771> yeah, i guessed so
[8:39] <Luke771> how much of a PITA would it be to implement plugins loading over freenet rather than from the website?
[8:39] <Luke771> OK, I don'0t really need to know that
[8:40] <Luke771> the idea was that I think that it would be a nice thing to have
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[8:40] <nextgens> it's quite straightforward
[8:40] <nextgens> but I'm not gonna do it
[8:40] <Luke771> sure. you do a lot of stuff already
[8:40] <nextgens> saces is working on plugins; ask him :)
[8:40] <Luke771> k
[8:41] <Luke771> so, saces how bout plugins loading over freenet?
[8:41] <Luke771> wouldn't that be great?
[8:56] <nextgens> that's planned
[8:58] <infinity0> is there like an overview of how the code works, or there only the source code?
[8:59] <nextgens> they are papers describing how freenet works
[8:59] <nextgens> but there is no technical description of how the code works
[8:59] <nextgens> source code speaks for itself :p
[9:00] <infinity0> yeah but a lot to read :(
[9:00] <Luke771> one line at a time...
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[12:01] <saces> morning, all.
[12:05] <saces> just loaded a plugin from chk
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[13:01] <nextgens> saces> that's the old url for plugins downloading
[13:01] <nextgens> saces> the new url is https://checksums.freenetproject.org/latest/
[13:02] <nextgens> and you can put the plugin's name right after it (no need for subdirectories there)
[13:02] <saces> you may want fix it?
[13:03] <nextgens> well, my working copy isn't commitable atm
[13:03] <nextgens> I would prefer you to :)
[13:04] <nextgens> btw it would be a good idea to check the sha1sum the server provides
[13:04] <nextgens> at least for official plugins
[13:13] <saces> hm. the new url failed due https :(
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[13:20] <Sign`Violence> hi
[13:25] <nextgens> saces> it would be great if we could use a secured link
[13:25] <nextgens> what's the problem?
[13:26] <saces> sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target
[13:28] <nextgens> ah, right; that's because startcom's CA isn't reconized by the JVM yet
[13:28] <nextgens> the solution is to force-load it like we do in Sha1Test.java
[13:28] <nextgens> but that doesn't work with free jvms afaic
[13:32] <Sign`Violence> i really don't understand how to setup a freemail. can someone help me? thx
[13:35] <dbkr> Sign`Violence: what's unclear in the guide?
[13:36] <Sign`Violence> well, i follow the plugin setup instructions. i load the plugin from the list and it just asks me to setup my account (username, password). then what do i do?
[13:37] <Sign`Violence> i find it unclear because im unfamiliar with a lot of it.
[13:37] <Sign`Violence> =newb
[13:39] <dbkr> you have the mail client setup instructions after that, right?
[13:39] <Sign`Violence> you mean on the freemail site? no
[13:39] <Sign`Violence> yes* even
[13:40] <Sign`Violence> but they invlude entering the email addy you're given
[13:40] <Sign`Violence> include*
[13:41] * dbkr looks
[13:42] <Sign`Violence> Type in the name and either the long Freemail address you were given, [i wasn't given one]
[13:44] <Sign`Violence> hence im not sure i created on when i tried. also in that case it asked for 'domain'
[13:44] <Sign`Violence> one*
[13:48] <dbkr> okay, well, which address would you like to use?
[13:49] <Sign`Violence> my node username
[13:50] <dbkr> okay - hopefully you've entered that in the 'domain' field of the account creation form?
[13:52] <Sign`Violence> ah
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[13:52] <Sign`Violence> i see now
[13:55] <dbkr> ah, cool
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[13:56] <dbkr> (the days of the temporary account creation form hack should be severely numbered by now)
[13:59] <Sign`Violence> so when i write it into thunderbird i type nodeusername@nodeusername ?
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[14:01] <dbkr> anything@domain.freemail
[14:04] <Sign`Violence> works. cheers!
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[14:18] <Tommy[D]> nextgens: r21441 does still try to fetch the latest jar via UoM
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[14:24] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> when?
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[14:44] <Tommy[D]> nextgens: since hours, it is fetching the jar, gets the jar offered by some more peers, then either fails to download or got the download and within minutes starts again with downloading the main jar
[14:49] <nextgens> is that a new behaviour or was it already like that previously?
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[14:51] <Tommy[D]> it started with or shortly after stable 1054
[14:51] <Tommy[D]> i did not test latest trunk before stable 1054
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[15:11] <saces> if someone want to test pluginloading from freenet: CHK@G~aGBPH9v1ns-6bIJ7zdzl1q3y9s62H4MOa8Eg~1PDM,pie6q2CBYez2OEErAwV~IaXvPWQzSpgkmkw82Z0L0ms,AAIC--8/ThawIndexBrowser-r21420.jar:
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[15:57] <Tommy[D]> nextgens: and now i got many lines with "Fetching main jar from ...." all with 1 ip following now by lines with "Offered main jar by ... (already fetching from 0), but will use this offer if our current fetches fail)." << fetching from 0
[16:01] <saces> nextgens: how to deal with the cert? hardcode it?
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[16:34] <nextgens> saces> yeah, bundle it
[16:34] <nextgens> saces> it's valid until 2036 iirc
[16:35] <nextgens> and copy it into a file called "startssl.pem" if it doesn't exist already (the installer should set it up)
[16:35] <nextgens> or better; check if it exists
[16:36] <nextgens> if it does, use it... if it doesn't ask the user to download it and to verify its fingerprint
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[19:07] <nextgens> hi
[19:07] <nextgens> saces> I would have bundled the .pem file into the jar file instead of hardcoding it into a .java file
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[19:07] <nextgens> btw, you probably want it to be "static final" and not only "final" :)
[19:18] <toad_> hi nextgens
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[20:23] <saces> nextgens: put the pem into staticfiles? so it is aviable for other apps/clients
[20:23] <nextgens> yeah
[20:23] <nextgens> and create it/permanently store it in freenet's directory
[20:24] <nextgens> the update.sh script does the same; so should the windows one
[20:25] <saces> nextgens: you commit the pem? its maybe better for trust...
[20:26] <nextgens> copy it from the installer so that the trust chain is kept :)
[20:27] <nextgens> it's in new_installer/res/startssl.pem
[20:27] <nextgens> do it on a single commit if possible
[20:27] <nextgens> just svn cp and then commit
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[21:44] <nine9nevermind> exit
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[23:21] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected a network glitch on http://mirror3.freenetproject.org/ : it has been disabled
[23:36] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected that http://mirror3.freenetproject.org/ is eligible to be back on the main mirror rotation list. Welcome Back!
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[23:59] <FreenetLogBot> The monitoring script has detected that http://mirror2.freenetproject.org/ is eligible to be back on the main mirror rotation list. Welcome Back!
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