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[0:00] <Mr_Giraffe> huh
[0:00] <Mr_Giraffe> there are no 127.0.0.1 or localhost folders
[0:00] <Luke771> still cant send it?
[0:00] <Luke771> hm?
[0:01] <Luke771> maybe it /home/<user>/.thunderbird
[0:01] <Mr_Giraffe> nope, there's only .mozilla-thunderbird
[0:01] <Mr_Giraffe> and the contents of that directory are:
[0:01] <Mr_Giraffe> profiles.ini qrijnmvi.default/
[0:01] <Luke771> and nothing inside it?
[0:02] <Luke771> inside default
[0:02] <Mr_Giraffe> ah ha, here we go
[0:02] <Mr_Giraffe> in default/news/ there's a localhost dir
[0:02] <Luke771> a one?
[0:02] <Luke771> gr
[0:03] <Luke771> not a 127.00.1 one?
[0:07] <Mr_Giraffe> just purged the install and deleted ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[0:07] <Mr_Giraffe> and then reinstalled it, to no avail
[0:08] <Luke771> try switching the server from localhost to 127.0.0.1
[0:09] <Luke771> if that doesn't work either, try Pan (it's in repos) just to check out where the problem is
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[0:09] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, i installed it as 127.0.0.1
[0:09] <Mr_Giraffe> and pan gives me an error too
[0:09] <Mr_Giraffe> error 441?
[0:10] <Luke771> I'm afraid you're doing something wrong
[0:10] <Luke771> I can't telle xactly what but you somehow sound so
[0:10] <Luke771> (can't explain, really)
[0:10] <Luke771> try this
[0:10] <Luke771> first of all, make sure that your web interface is up and usable
[0:11] <Mr_Giraffe> i'm not an idiot :(
[0:11] <Mr_Giraffe> and yeah, web interface is fine
[0:12] <Luke771> then open thunderbird, delete your FMS account and re-configure it making sure that you match all the steps exactly as in freenet apps freesites
[0:12] <Luke771> btw I never said you were an idiot
[0:12] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, well ok, i guess i can try that again
[0:13] <Mr_Giraffe> the only problem is that tutorial doesn't seem to match the steps on the linux install
[0:13] <Mr_Giraffe> or maybe it's for an old version or something
[0:13] <Luke771> I can't do more than telling you all the time the same things as they're already written in that freesite, my FMS knowledge doesnt go any further
[0:14] <Luke771> no. it's not for an old version, the thunderbird configuration for fms never changed since the thing was inventedù
[0:14] <Luke771> well I used windows for the screenshots
[0:14] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, i mean thunderbird changed, not FMS
[0:15] <Luke771> the only difference is that the menu 'preferences' in under 'edit' in Linux and under 'Tools' in Windows
[0:15] <Luke771> possible
[0:15] <Luke771> that was thunderbord 2
[0:15] <Luke771> thunderbird
[0:16] <Luke771> but even if the places where to find stuff has changed between your version and the one that I used for the tutorial, you should be able to find those settings somewhere
[0:17] <Luke771> it's possible that something is in one menu rather than another but there must be a way to configure that stuff or it wouldnt work, and it can't have changed so much
[0:18] <Mr_Giraffe> right
[0:22] <Mr_Giraffe> though if i recall, that's what i tried doing before, and even then it didn't work....
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[0:22] <Luke771> well as I said
[0:23] <Luke771> I don't know anything more than what I wrote in the freesite
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[0:23] <Mr_Giraffe> it's fine, but damn
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[4:14] <zEEbe> hah
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[9:13] <nextgens> is anyone running a recent trunk build?
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[11:33] <aeo> hola
[11:37] <- *aeo* hola
[11:38] <- *aeo* hello
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[11:44] <infinity0> i'm currently using the www in china through an ssh tunnel through cambridge, UK. it's gotten around most of the chinese firewall blocks, but i still can't access freenetproject.org through it... any ideas why?
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[18:37] <Araneidae> About 3 minutes after restarting my node I get: "STATUS | wrapper | 2008/07/27 19:33:10 | JVM requested a restart." followed by a traceback
[18:37] <nextgens> Araneidae> pastebin your wrapper.log
[18:38] <Araneidae> All of it?!
[18:38] <Araneidae> 1.5 MB
[18:39] <Araneidae> Hmm. I'll try and cut down the most recent bit.
[18:41] <Araneidae> Can you point me to a pastebin that will accept uploads? The log file is till 120k (*enormous* backtrace).
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[18:43] <Araneidae> Ok: http://code.bulix.org/fnz4kn-67748?raw
[18:43] <Araneidae> (Or maybe without the ?raw)
[18:45] <nextgens> hmm
[18:45] <nextgens> I dunno what can cause that
[18:45] <Araneidae> One clue. I did relocate the entire directory (with mv) to a different volume (so I could have a bigger store)
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[19:05] <shanmuha> hi
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[19:06] <shanmuha> I have turned insecure mode on... but still no connections..anything I might have missed?
[19:10] <Cooo> shanmuha: How long since you turned insecure mode on?
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[19:13] <shanmuha> Cooo: two days now
[19:14] <Cooo> Ooooch..
[19:14] <Cooo> shanmuha: something is wrong for shure.
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[19:16] <Cooo> Alot of the times these things happens there seems to be an MTU problem. Isn't that right nextgens?
[19:20] <Cooo> shanmuha: I guess you do not have any friend already running FreeNet?
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[19:21] <shanmuha> Cooo: No Cooo :(
[19:22] <Dieppe> shanmuha: what do you see in your wrapper.log file ?
[19:22] <Dieppe> and, is your version the 1154 ?
[19:23] <Dieppe> pastebin your wrapper.log in fact
[19:26] <Cooo> http://dark-code.bulix.org/ good for pastebins
[19:26] <shanmuha> Dieppe:pasted at http://code.bulix.org/h78nmv-67749. yes, my version is that Freenet 0.7 Build #1154 r21278
[19:26] <shanmuha> Cooo: Thanks!
[19:31] <Dieppe> hum, I dunno why you can't connect
[19:31] <shanmuha> I am behind a wireless router
[19:31] <shanmuha> but have setup port forwarding
[19:31] <Dieppe> is the ip adresse in the physical.udp field right ?
[19:31] <Dieppe> in your ref
[19:32] <Cooo> nextgens: when reading shanmuha;s wrapper.log above I noticed an NPE in "Entropy Gathering Thread" Dunno if it's already fixed or not, just wanted to point it out if it's not fixed.
[19:34] <Dieppe> Cooo: it has been fixed in the trunk (at least, there is a fix commit ;p)
[19:34] <Cooo> Dieppe: Ahh. great
[19:35] <Dieppe> yep, nextgens is doing great job atm ;)
[19:35] <Cooo> Yes :)
[19:35] <Dieppe> shanmuha: did you have a seednode.fref file in your freenet dir ?
[19:36] <Dieppe> or .ref, I don't remember
[19:36] <Cooo> Dieppe: I think it's .fref
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[19:40] <Dieppe> ok, thx
[19:42] <shanmuha> Dieppe: I have a file seednodes.fref
[19:42] <Dieppe> ok
[19:42] <Dieppe> then, I dunno :/
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[19:44] <Cooo> hrrrrm.. seems like shanmuha;s MTU is 1500 if i read the logfile right.. Now I do not remember where the limit for MTU problems really is..
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[19:44] <shanmuha> Cooo:you are right my mtu is 1500
[19:46] <Cooo> shanmuha: ahh :)
[19:51] <Cooo> shanmuha: I will have a talk with google soon, hopefully there will be some answers. hold on.
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[20:00] <Cooo> Hmmm.. A quick google search says that MTU 1500 should work.
[20:00] <shanmuha> Cooo: Thanks! I have also verified the same
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[20:03] <Cooo> So I guess the MTU is not your problem. hmmm
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[20:13] <Araneidae> Does freenet have to be *quite* so entropy hungry on startup? This is quite a problem for me...
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[20:19] <Cooo> He was in a hurry
[20:27] <shanmuha> :)
[20:29] <nextgens> rehi
[20:29] <nextgens> shanmuha> get someone to give you his opennet reference and see if your node manages to bootstrap itself from it
[20:30] <nextgens> if it does then it's a mtu problem
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[20:33] <nextgens> Cooo> dunno if the NPE is fixed; try to reproduce it using trunk
[20:33] <nextgens> apparently it's a jvm bug
[20:35] <Cooo> nextgens: Ok.. well shanmuha will have to update to trunk and try to reproduce the NPE then.
[21:00] <Cooo> nextgens: Seems like there was an MTU problem when shanmuha tried to connect. Should that even happen when his MTU is 1500?
[21:08] <Cooo> nextgens: I connected to shanmuha over OpenNet for a short time but now we are disconnected and he ain't got no other connection, do my node disconnect him to fast?
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[21:16] <Anonumous> Umm.. Anyone chatting here? I could use some help, but it seems that the freenet-refs channel is no more
[21:16] <Dieppe> Anonumous: ask your question, you'll see if someone answer ;)
[21:16] <Cooo> freenet-refs is nomore, you are right. Try to turn on insecure mode
[21:17] <Anonumous> Insecure mode works fine, I suppose, but where can i find trusted peers without having to resort to persuading my friends to run freenet?
[21:19] <Dieppe> you shouldn't connect to people you don't know in the real life
[21:19] <Cooo> Anonumous: Trusted peers is just that, trusted. Trusted peers shold only be peers that you know and trust,
[21:20] <Dieppe> well, in fact, it depends on what you mean by 'trust'...
[21:21] <Anonumous> Perhaps someone could help me with this one: When I run freenet 0.7, I get connection attempts from a whole range of IP:s on ports that I didn't know existed... Are these "attacks", or are they just peers in the insecure mode?
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[21:22] <Dieppe> Anonumous: I think it's just peers in the insecure mode
[21:23] <Dieppe> you can see them in the connectivity page
[21:23] <Dieppe> on*
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[21:27] <saces> Anonumous: if you have a dynamic ip its more or less normal
[21:29] <Anonumous> So I shouldn't be too worried that the LEA:s are after me? Why doesn't all communication run on just a few ports? Why hundreds of ports?
[21:30] <saces> p2p apps (emule etc pp) have an large (and often old) peer cache, they may try to reach the "ip pre owner"
[21:32] <saces> freenet itself uses only to outgoing ports, one for darknet, one for opennet
[21:32] <saces> to=two
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[21:53] <Anonumous> where can I find people to be my "friends", so that I can disable the promiscuous insecure mode? Do I need to recruit friends IRL?
[21:54] <Cooo> Anonumous: Yep.
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[21:55] <Anonumous> That is obviously the only way to find people that I really trust, but is there no good web-based service where people trade node references?
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[23:04] <nextgens> Cooo> if manual connection worked it's a mtu problem
[23:04] <nextgens> but it's weird that path-folding didn't get new connections
[23:06] <nextgens> bbl
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