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[11:15] <Matrixritter> Hello
[11:15] <Matrixritter> i got an error during installation: java.io.IOException: error=13
[11:15] <Matrixritter> what's going wrong?
[11:21] <toad_> good question
[11:21] <toad_> when exactly during installation?
[11:30] <Matrixritter> moment, i switch to english installation dialogue
[11:31] <Matrixritter> when it comes to "Processing - Setting the Updater up"
[11:31] <Matrixritter> no error logs on console
[11:32] <Matrixritter> and in the windows this error log appears
[11:32] <Matrixritter> "The full error message is :
[11:32] <Matrixritter> #################################################################
[11:32] <Matrixritter> An SSL exception has occured:java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty"
[11:32] <toad_> hmmm
[11:32] <toad_> what version of java do you have installed?
[11:34] <toad_> some versions of openjdk have bugs which cause installation to break ... gcj also has bugs, meaning it's not fully supported
[11:34] <toad_> you need sun java at least version 5
[11:35] <Matrixritter> 1.6.0
[11:35] <Matrixritter> uh
[11:35] <Matrixritter> i need update
[11:35] <toad_> hmm?
[11:36] <Matrixritter> i am confused, because there are several versions of java
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[11:36] <Tommy[D]> What is the output of "java -version"?
[11:38] <Matrixritter> java version "1.6.0"
[11:38] <Matrixritter> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b09)
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[11:39] <Matrixritter> and the path is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[11:39] <Matrixritter> so i am up to date
[11:39] <Matrixritter> no other java versions installed
[11:41] <Matrixritter> google says, another guy asked same question here but no solution
[11:42] <Matrixritter> any ideas?
[11:47] <toad_> Matrixritter: some versions of openjdk have problems with freenet
[11:48] <toad_> Matrixritter: please install the proprietary sun java 1.6
[11:48] <toad_> Matrixritter: i assume you are using ubuntu? if so, you can probably do this:
[11:48] <toad_> apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[11:48] <toad_> update-alternatives --config java
[11:48] <toad_> on a command line
[11:48] <Matrixritter> msg toad_ i will do it
[11:48] <Matrixritter> hu?
[11:48] <Matrixritter> damn opera
[11:49] <toad_> missing /
[11:49] <Matrixritter> argh
[11:49] <toad_> :)
[11:50] <Matrixritter> i thought there were no more proprietary versions of java
[11:50] <toad_> 1.7 may be fully open, I dunno what the situation is
[11:51] <toad_> some versions of openjdk may actually work with freenet, but not the version in ubuntu 8.04
[11:51] <toad_> iirc
[11:51] <Matrixritter> again error but just a windows saying "Error" and no log
[11:51] <Matrixritter> argh
[11:51] <toad_> hmmm
[11:51] <toad_> java --version ?
[11:52] <Matrixritter> java version "1.6.0_06"
[11:52] <Matrixritter> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[11:52] <Matrixritter> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b22, mixed mode, sharing)
[11:52] <toad_> hmmm :(
[11:52] <toad_> when do you get the error?
[11:52] <Matrixritter> same part of installation
[11:53] <toad_> hmmm
[11:53] <toad_> during the processes page?
[11:53] <toad_> lots of text?
[11:53] <Matrixritter> ah
[11:53] <toad_> what was the last thing it said before popping up the error box?
[11:53] <toad_> hmmm?
[11:53] <Matrixritter> File blabla exists
[11:53] <toad_> ah :)
[11:53] <toad_> uninstall first
[11:53] <Matrixritter> i try to remove the folder
[11:53] <toad_> if it got as far as creating an uninstaller then use that
[11:53] <toad_> if it didn't then just delete the folder
[11:53] <Matrixritter> rm -rf / is right?
[11:54] <toad_> :)
[11:54] <toad_> then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ;)
[11:54] <Matrixritter> ^^
[11:54] <toad_> (bad idea)
[11:54] <Matrixritter> ah, seems to work
[11:54] <toad_> hmmmmm?
[11:55] <Matrixritter> it's working
[11:55] <toad_> it successfully installs? you have a browser window pointing to freenet?
[11:55] <Matrixritter> well done
[11:55] <Matrixritter> yeah, opera points to freenet
[11:55] <toad_> cool, welcome to the free world ... :)
[11:55] <toad_> firefox might work better ... if you're gonna use opera then configure it to use lots of parallel connections
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[11:56] <toad_> it's better to have a separate profile really, we create one in the Browse Freenet script ... there are occasional complications though
[11:56] <toad_> that relies on firefox
[11:57] <Matrixritter> hmm, i will configure opera to use more parallel cennections
[11:57] <Matrixritter> what is a good value?
[11:57] <toad_> 50+
[11:57] <toad_> also, web sites will be able to tell whether you've visited freesites
[11:58] <toad_> unless you use a separate profile
[11:58] <Matrixritter> i dont understand what you mean with separate profile
[11:58] <toad_> a separate opera profile might be optimal
[11:58] <toad_> most browsers let you have different settings for different jobs, and switch between them
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[12:00] <Matrixritter> ok
[12:00] <Matrixritter> now issues with two ports
[12:00] <Matrixritter> need to tweak my modem (castrated router)
[12:01] <toad_> in some ways having a whole separate browser for freenet would be ideal
[12:01] <toad_> anyway
[12:01] <toad_> freenet will try to auto-forward the ports using UP&P
[12:01] <toad_> if that's turned off you will need to do it manually
[12:01] <toad_> quite often UP&P appears to be enabled but doesn't work ... so if you can forward the ports manually then do so
[12:29] <Tommy[D]> I am getting the following message also i am running 1054: The update process seems to have been stuck for over an hour; let's switch to UoM! SHOULD NOT HAPPEN!
[12:34] <sleon> hi
[12:44] <toad_> Tommy[D]: iirc nextgens said that was a false alarm
[12:44] <toad_> sleon: hi
[12:45] <Tommy[D]> toad_: maybe, but it spams my wrapper.log
[12:46] <toad_> well it's fixed in trunk, get trunk if it's a problem
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[13:53] <telephinz> hello guys i am receiving messages on frost from my international boards but none on the freenet board any reasons for this?
[13:53] <telephinz> also is there a good board list out there?
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[14:00] <Luke771> telephinz: the reason is that frost is under heavy flood attacks
[14:00] <Luke771> it has been since months... maybe years
[14:01] <Luke771> most of us are using FMS, the source code is available but no trusted 'freeneter' has reviewed it lately
[14:01] <Luke771> there are binaries for windows linux and mac, and the cource that you can compile. Instructions and downloads on the Freeneet Aplications Freesite
[14:03] <Luke771> some still run Frost but they're few and it can take days to get ot send a message, which also loads the node (lots of "broken messages" (invisible) are being sent all the time... I don't know exactly how it works, all I know is that frost is badly crippled and it doesn't look like it's gonna come back any time soon
[14:05] <telephinz> cool cheers
[14:19] <telephinz> this may be a simple question but how do i view the boards?
[14:21] <Luke771> what boards? in frost?
[14:21] <Luke771> or fms?
[14:26] <telephinz> fms
[14:35] <telephinz> i'm well confused, how do i get a trust list or get on someones trust list?
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[14:47] <Luke771> telephinz: OK for FMS, you subscribe to boards as you would do with a news server: you configure a news reader for it
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[14:47] <Luke771> there are detailed instructions on the Freenet Applications FreeSite, it's one of the default links in FProxy
[14:49] <Luke771> for the trust, just set some trust list trust to 60 or more. read some messages to figure out who to giove high or low trust to, and what's the difference between message trust ands trust list trust
[14:49] <Luke771> also, give yourself a high trust (usually people mark themselves 100/100) so you'll start seeing your own messages sooner
[14:50] <Luke771> in the beginning, you'll see the answers to your messages but not the very messages you sent. That's normal, it happens because your identity doesnt have enough trust yet. After a day or two, you satart seeing most messages,
[14:50] <Luke771> probably all
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[15:02] <Luke771> I don't want to sound like a grammar nazi but I need to ask a question to understand a sentence form the config page
[15:03] <Luke771> the the configuration asks us "Shall we send our peer's location to our peers?" does it mean 'our peer's location' as in 'I am a peer and I'm sending my location', or our peers' location', as in 'sending to peers the locations of other perrs'?
[15:04] <Luke771> in other wordss, what are we sending to peers, our own location or our peers' location?
[15:07] <reflect> the next sentence sort of clarified it for me, "to help routing" or something like that
[15:07] <reflect> thanks for helping me find it, btw :)
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[15:08] <Luke771> reflect: so? it's peers' location?
[15:09] <reflect> yes, as I understand it.
[15:09] <reflect> the peers you see, are sent out to each of those peers, to help with routing
[15:10] <Luke771> ok
[15:10] <Luke771> someone should file a bug for the apostrophe in the wring place :P
[15:11] <Luke771> gotta go ffk now, cya later
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[16:12] <nextgens> hi
[16:12] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> 1154 doesn't have such a log message iirc
[16:12] <nextgens> aren't you running trunk?
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[16:27] <trickster06> Hi everybody, nextgens i still got the problem for installing after i uninstall and reinstall and change my internet settings to static ip instead of dhcp
[16:28] <trickster06> never knows
[16:31] <nextgens> trickster06> sorry, I'm not sure anymore; what was your problem again?
[16:31] <toad_> trickster06: you were on solaris, right?
[16:33] <reflect> need more testers for that? if so, let me know.. have something here available for testing
[16:33] <toad_> hehe
[16:33] <toad_> well, it's likely to have its own unique problems, that's all
[16:33] <toad_> nextgens is better able to deal with it than me probably
[16:34] <Tommy[D]> nextgens: yes, i am running trunk, just testing the latest trunk now
[16:34] <trickster06> yes i m on solaris express
[16:35] <trickster06> errors are "Not found, let's ignore that mirror" several times and "No mirror is available at the moment, please try again later"
[16:35] <trickster06> and it says that i have a buggy jvm
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[16:35] <nextgens> and that computer has a "real" internet access, right?
[16:36] <nextgens> it's not behind a proxy or something like that?
[16:36] <trickster06> sorry but what do you mean by real internet access ?
[16:36] <trickster06> no no proxy
[16:37] <nextgens> they are several things which can go wrong
[16:40] <trickster06> it must be a connection problem from the message i have in jvmerror no ?
[16:40] <nextgens> not necessarily
[16:40] <trickster06> and what can i check ?
[16:40] <nextgens> it might be a different, OS-specific problem
[16:41] <TheSeeker> http://dark-code.bulix.org/bgnf07-67694 Trunk compile error
[16:41] <nextgens> I'm not really willing to spend time debugging it right now :)
[16:41] <TheSeeker> and now I'm late for work again >_X
[16:41] <nextgens> but I'll have a look to it when I get my hand on a box running solaris
[16:42] <trickster06> alright so what i have to do is be patient or change my os
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[16:43] <nextgens> TheSeeker> ant clean
[16:43] <nextgens> trickster06> or alternatively attempt to debug it yourself :)
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[16:44] <trickster06> i would like to but now i dont really have time either between study and work and it would be too hard to :)
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[16:45] <nextgens> trickster06> I suggest you create a ticket on the bug tracker so that you'll be noticed when I fix it :)
[16:45] <nextgens> include the exact name/version of the OS you are using
[16:45] <nextgens> and the full error message
[16:46] <nextgens> trickster06> https://bugs.freenetproject.org
[16:46] <trickster06> alright but i will probably update my os soon too as soon as a new release come out
[16:46] <nextgens> unless toad_ wants to fix it himself of course :)
[16:46] <nextgens> what's solaris express?
[16:46] <nextgens> I've never heard of it
[16:47] <toad_> nextgens: fix what?
[16:47] * nextgens googles it
[16:47] <nextgens> toad_> the installer's issue on solaris
[16:47] <toad_> not likely :)
[16:48] <nextgens> well, we agreed that at some point you would take over the maintainance of the installer
[16:48] <nextgens> ;)
[16:48] <trickster06> its an OpenSolaris based distrution
[16:48] <toad_> it's not like it affects an OS used by more than 1% of our users :)
[16:49] <toad_> what's the bug exactly?
[16:49] <trickster06> you can find information on sun site
[16:49] <nextgens> dunno, that's the problem
[16:49] <nextgens> I suggest the big catch(Exception) in Sha1test to hide something
[16:49] <trickster06> it's the world most advanced os ;)
[16:49] <nextgens> but I'm not motivated enough to investigate it
[16:50] <nextgens> trickster06> I've never played with open solaris... I've used solaris a bit though :)
[16:50] <nextgens> and will probably have to professionally soon
[16:51] <toad_> nextgens: so the next step is to change Sha1Test to tell the user what the problem is?
[16:51] <toad_> nextgens: if I make the change, will you compile it? :)
[16:52] <nextgens> it involves updating hashes in various places
[16:52] <nextgens> compiling it is trivial; deploying it isn't
[16:52] <toad_> hmmm
[16:53] <toad_> afaics we do log the exception in the current code
[16:53] <reflect> there's Solaris.. then there's Solaris express, which is ahead of Solaris.. and finally, you have opensolaris.. the trunk, if you will :) Express is just a polished tag of opensolaris
[16:53] <nextgens> iirc I asked trickster06 to do a basic test with it and it worked
[16:53] <nextgens> hence I don't understand what's going on
[16:53] <toad_> } catch(Exception e) {
[16:53] <toad_> System.err.println("Error while handling the CA :" + e.getMessage());
[16:53] <toad_> e.printStackTrace();
[16:53] <toad_> System.exit(3);
[16:53] <toad_> is that the Exception you're referring to?
[16:54] <nextgens> atm the class returns 0 and "no mirror found"
[16:54] <toad_> nextgens: can't you just send him a testing jar compiled locally?
[16:54] <nextgens> last time I asked him to test a jar interractively it worked
[16:55] <toad_> hmmm
[16:55] <toad_> so it only breaks when it's called from the installer?
[16:55] <toad_> GUI or console?
[16:56] <toad_> trickster06: are you using the GUI installer or the tarball?
[16:57] <trickster06> yesterday i tried to test sha1test.jar from the console and it worked
[16:58] <trickster06> when i try to install Freenet i do it via javawebstart
[16:59] <trickster06> so GUI
[17:00] <trickster06> would it change something if i try to install through the console ?
[17:00] <toad_> nextgens: is Sha1Test as deployed pre-20941 then??
[17:03] <trickster06> for solaris express http://developers.sun.com/sxde/faq.jsp#q_3
[17:05] <nextgens> toad_> dunno
[17:08] <nextgens> it's definitly post r20270
[17:08] <nextgens> whether it's r20941 or not, I dunno
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[17:34] <trickster06> how about installing in offline mode ?
[17:35] <nextgens> you could try it
[17:35] <nextgens> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer_offline.jar
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[17:44] <trickster06> i have a different message
[17:44] <trickster06> Offline installation mode wrapper_SunOS.zip does not exist. chmod: AVERTISSEMENT: impossible d'accéder à lib/*
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[17:56] <nextgens> ah
[17:56] <nextgens> okay
[17:56] <nextgens> doh he is gone
[17:57] <nextgens> reflect> what does uname -s give on open-solaris?
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[18:03] <reflect> SunOS
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[18:05] <reflect> nextgens, SunOS
[18:07] <nextgens> okay
[18:07] <nextgens> that explains it
[18:07] <reflect> you expected Solaris?
[18:08] <nextgens> yeah
[18:08] <nextgens> it's fixed now :)
[18:08] <nextgens> what does it give on freebsd/netbsd/obsd ?
[18:08] * nextgens can fix it while he is at it
[18:08] <kork> $ uname -s
[18:08] <kork> FreeBSD
[18:09] <reflect> OpenBSD
[18:09] <reflect> I'm guessing NetBSD :)
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[18:10] <nextgens> okay, fixed too
[18:11] <nextgens> trickster06> please retry the installer; I might have fixed your bug
[18:11] <nextgens> and don't forget to report back :)
[18:12] <trickster06> ok
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[18:14] <trickster06> the offline installer ?
[18:14] <reflect> I'd try the normal one first
[18:20] <trickster06> it seems to be better but i still have pb ... with the shell script that i have to modified each time and run again the installer
[18:21] <trickster06> The message i have is this
[18:21] <trickster06> The installer isn\'t meant to run more than once in the same directory
[18:21] <trickster06> and the problem with the script is
[18:21] <trickster06> if test -e
[18:21] <trickster06> i have to replace it with if test -f
[18:22] <trickster06> and also i have to make install_updater.sh executable
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[18:47] <zerwas> Is it possible to upgrade FMS without losing the settings?
[18:48] <zerwas> or: Where is the file to import the identity
[18:49] <zerwas> Oh, i have to export it first.
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[18:55] <dokwerk> when I try to install freenet (new_installer.jar) Iget an error. "java.io.IOException: Cannot runprogram*/home/freenet/bin/install updater.sh*:java.io.IOException:rerror=13, Permission denied
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[18:55] <dokwerk> what have I made wrong?
[18:56] <toad_> dunno
[18:56] <toad_> is /home/freenet/bin/install_updater.sh executable? does it exist at all?
[18:56] <toad_> is /home mounted noexec?
[19:03] <dokwerk> the install_udater.sh is there and executable
[19:04] <dokwerk> how can I see how /home is noexec or not?
[19:05] <reflect> type mount, find the partition where you home directory is located on, and search for "noexec" on that line
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[19:06] <dokwerk> /dev/sdb5 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[19:06] <dokwerk> dev/sdb5 is my home partition
[19:07] <reflect> what OS are you using+
[19:08] <dokwerk> Ubuntu Hardy
[19:08] <reflect> and that's what.. 8.04?
[19:08] <dokwerk> yes
[19:09] <reflect> was thinking perhaps there was some SELinux enabled or something.. not sure if that's in there for ubuntu or how it works
[19:12] <dokwerk> I think its a problem between preinstalled Open java and sun-java
[19:13] <dokwerk> how kann I point the installer to sun-java?
[19:13] <dokwerk> *can
[19:14] <reflect> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:15] <dokwerk> thx a lot
[19:15] <reflect> that's usually not the error you get if you're running the wrong java, though
[19:15] <reflect> permission denied points to something more fundamental
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[20:01] <Tommy[D]> zerwas: What is the problem with upgrading FMS? Just compile it (perhaps in an extra place) and copy the new binary over the old one
[20:01] <zerwas> Tommy[D], oh... okay, that would have been much easier. Didn't know i can do it that way
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[20:06] <nextgens> dokwerk> did you use the graphical installer or the tarball?
[20:06] * nextgens doesn't understand why it would not be executable
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[20:36] <zerwas> Tommy[D], thanks again, worked perfect
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[22:21] <Cooo> LOL. Got an email (in swedidh) from a friend telling me that "Bill Gates(microsoft owner) is sharing his fortune, If I do not take the mail seriousley I will regret myself"
[22:22] <Cooo> For every redistribution of the mail I would earn 245 EURO
[22:23] <Tommy[D]> that one is old ;)
[22:23] <Cooo> If I get the mail and redistribute it I would earn 243 EURO ??? Hrrrm.. wasn't that like 245 EURO just a line above?
[22:23] <Cooo> Tommy[D]: Guessed so..
[22:24] <Cooo> Seems like that mail got translated to norwegian somewhere before it got translated to swedish and sent to me.
[22:25] <Cooo> Worst thing, my mail address is not CC;ed when she sends it out to ~20 persons :(
[22:26] <Cooo> the mail I got contains somewhere around 100 addresses that probably is in use :P
[22:30] <Cooo> BCC;ed I mean
[22:35] <Tommy[D]> nice catch for spammers :)
[22:39] <Cooo> O yes..
[22:40] <Cooo> Well. Mailed back to tell her that my mail address should be BCC;ed from now on.
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[22:41] <Cooo> And. Yeah. I asked hear if she is that "blueeyed" (easy to trick)
[22:54] <Cooo> Ööööö... In /queue/. Look under filename on "downloads in progress". Why does it say "downloads/RedFlag-dt6-sys.iso" ? Isn't "downloads/" unnesecary information when download is started with FProxy? Download folder should be stated somewhere else, Filename should only be filename IMO... This is with latest DB4O but I guess that normal Freenet looks the same.
[22:55] <Tommy[D]> it is the same with normal freenet
[22:56] <Cooo> Tommy[D]: Ok..
[22:57] <Cooo> You see any use of this?
[22:58] <Tommy[D]> I dont see any atm
[22:58] <Cooo> IMHO the filename collum shall only have filenames in it.
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[23:03] <Cooo> Could this be a security risk? would a download with Frost or Thaw give away where the files is being saved? Havent really thought about this earlier,
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[23:22] * Cooo is off. sleep is unfortunateley needed :(
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[23:42] <kali_jr> hi freenet newbie with question about frost. Is this the right forum to ask?
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[23:58] <Tommy[D]> kali_jr: you can ask, but you should know that frost is almost dead because of a spammer making it unusable
[23:59] <kali_jr> yeah - I've seen that...
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