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IRC Log for 2008-07-08

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[4:00] <BobBuilder> Hello.
[4:01] <BobBuilder> Can anyone link me to some good documentation on Freenet + MacOSX?
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[4:54] <LeoStrange> 'Lo
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[5:03] <luke771_afk> LeoStrange: Freenet will work with Mac OSX as it does with any other OS, the only requisite is Java 1.5 or superior
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[5:20] <LeoStrange> luke, see I installed it correctly
[5:20] <LeoStrange> But there is no GUI short of the web browser.
[5:20] <LeoStrange> Which isn't really user friendly.
[5:22] <Luke771> point your browser to http://127.0.0.1:8888
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[5:23] <Luke771> then boomark it
[5:23] <LeoStrange> Yeah, I have a url link on my desktop.
[5:23] <LeoStrange> But its still not user friendly. Is there a gui interface? Thats more user friendly?
[5:23] <LeoStrange> Also, for future reference, how do I uninstall freenet?
[5:23] <Luke771> no, it doesnt automatically add a bookmark, but it does add a friefox profile, so you get a "browse freenet" icon that works as long as you have firefox installed
[5:24] <LeoStrange> Where does this browse freenet icon pop up?
[5:24] <Luke771> there's an 'uninstaller' folder inside the freenet folder, there you should find something to click
[5:24] <Luke771> usually, I simply delete the freenet folder
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[5:25] <LeoStrange> I don't know if I mentioned, but I had installed Freenet 0.5.2... no installer/uninstaller to speak of.
[5:25] <Luke771> the 'brose freenet' icon should pop up on your desktopand in the equivalent of your main menu but I don't know for sure cuz I never used a mac
[5:26] <Luke771> LeoStrange: that's obsolete and usupported
[5:26] <LeoStrange> Yeah
[5:26] <Luke771> I assumed you were talking about 0.7
[5:26] <LeoStrange> Hence why I want to know how to uninstall it.
[5:26] <LeoStrange> So I can install 0.7 :P
[5:26] <Luke771> with 0.5 you're on your own
[5:27] <Luke771> you can get help from the guys who are continuing the development, but I don't know where to get them
[5:27] <Luke771> yeah, install 0.7 is the best choice
[5:27] <Luke771> that's THE freenet now
[5:27] <LeoStrange> Well, mainly I just want to know how to properly remove 0.5
[5:27] <LeoStrange> So that I CAN migrate to 0.7
[5:27] <Luke771> just remove the freenet folder
[5:27] <LeoStrange> Don't want any loose ends in my system.
[5:27] <LeoStrange> Potentially leaching my internet.
[5:28] <LeoStrange> I think its more complicated than that, though. It totally installed itself somewhere, like in some mac version of the windows registrry.
[5:28] <Luke771> afaik freenet 0.5 didnt install anything outside of the freenet folder
[5:28] <LeoStrange> Hrm.
[5:28] <LeoStrange> I'm going to take your word for it.
[5:28] <LeoStrange> Thanks sir!
[5:28] <Luke771> don't
[5:28] <LeoStrange> Oh dear.
[5:28] <Luke771> don't really know what I'm talking about here. You better wait for someone else to confirm or deny
[5:29] <LeoStrange> Ctrl Z
[5:29] <Luke771> I know one thing: that until not long ago freenet 0.7 used to stay inside the freenet folder
[5:30] <Luke771> not any more: now it auto starts and install a freenet profile, and that should be all
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[5:31] <Luke771> I "think" that 0.5 also stay inside the freenet folder but I'm not really 100% sure about it... does MacOS even have some kind of equivalent of the windows registry?
[5:32] <LeoStrange> I think some programs install
[5:32] <LeoStrange> Like Adobe stuff.
[5:32] <LeoStrange> For the MOST part, you can just delete practically every program, cause its self contained.
[5:32] <LeoStrange> But something like apache or freenet, or things that mess with root system settings
[5:32] <LeoStrange> Which I'd imagine freenet would.
[5:32] <Luke771> yeah, that's what I knew about Mac, most programs say in their own folders
[5:32] <LeoStrange> I'm not a hardcore programmer, so I don't really know.
[5:32] <LeoStrange> Better to lean on the side of safe.
[5:32] <Luke771> OK, so start with removin the freenet folder and install 0.7
[5:33] <LeoStrange> If you deleted Adobe CS3 without using the proper uninstaller, you'd be in a world of hurt... because when Macs DO fuck up, they fuck up royally.
[5:33] <Luke771> if you need to do something more, someone will tell you as soon as they see our conversation here
[5:33] <Luke771> now it's a bad time, too early in europe and too late in america
[5:33] <Luke771> well
[5:33] <LeoStrange> I'm in Canada! Perfect time!
[5:33] <LeoStrange> Milk comes in bags here.
[5:33] <Luke771> freenet is not an adobe product
[5:34] <LeoStrange> I know haha.
[5:34] <Luke771> it's supposed to interfere with the system as little as possible
[5:34] <Luke771> bags?
[5:34] <LeoStrange> I was just using that as an example to indicate that not all mac software lacks an installation process.
[5:34] <Luke771> not cardboard thingies that i HATE? (where are the good old bottles?)
[5:34] <LeoStrange> http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/milk3.jpg
[5:35] <Luke771> and canada is america in the contenst of times
[5:35] <LeoStrange> This is what a bag of milk looks like
[5:35] <LeoStrange> I know it is.
[5:35] <Luke771> argh
[5:35] <Luke771> that's ecen worse than the cardboard thingies
[5:35] <Luke771> I WANT MILK BOTTLES BACK
[5:35] <LeoStrange> Haha
[5:36] <Luke771> with the good old milk man that fucks your wife when you're not around
[5:36] <Luke771> er.. no maybe not that
[5:36] <Luke771> ok, back on topic
[5:36] <LeoStrange> Haha.
[5:36] <LeoStrange> Touchy subject?
[5:36] <Luke771> hm... not really
[5:36] <LeoStrange> Better ask your wife just ot make sure
[5:36] <LeoStrange> :P
[5:37] <Luke771> I used to be "the milkman" mpore than "the husband"
[5:37] <Luke771> but that's also OT
[5:37] <LeoStrange> Overtime?
[5:37] <Luke771> ok, let's switcjh to #freenet-chart for the OT
[5:38] <Luke771> here, let's stick to freenet
[5:38] <Luke771> the channel is logged, even if no one is around, too much OT can be annoying when someone browses the logs looking for info
[5:39] <LeoStrange> OT?
[5:39] <LeoStrange> I'm in #freenet-chart :S
[5:39] <LeoStrange> *is so confused*
[5:39] <Luke771> chat
[5:40] <Luke771> lol I typed wrong
[5:40] <Luke771> it's #freenet-chat
[5:40] <Luke771> I suffer frm fat fingers syndrome
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[5:42] <Luke771> anhyhow
[5:43] <Luke771> I think you can safely delete the freenet directory and install freenet 0.7.
[5:43] <Luke771> stick around so someone else can warn you if you need to do something, just in case
[5:43] <LeoStrange> Aight
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[15:09] <Anarhist> hi, where can i find more about the format used to transfer e-mails by freemail?
[15:10] <dbkr> the freemail freesite
[15:10] <dbkr> but it's deeply unexciting
[15:10] <dbkr> there's an id header, and then just the message
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[18:54] <Rlph> hello?
[18:55] <CryingFreeman> hello.
[18:56] <Rlph> Do you know under what circumstances it would be advisable to make sure that it can not be discovered that one is using freenet?
[18:56] <CryingFreeman> when in china, for example. :)
[18:56] <Rlph> how 'bout mexico?
[18:57] <CryingFreeman> i haven't got many clues about what goes on in mexican legislation. sorry.
[18:58] <Rlph> Well. if you have never heard of problems, it is probably a good bet that it is ok.
[19:00] <CryingFreeman> If cryptography is not outlawed, then perhaps it's safe. However, you could probably get caught for doing certain things on Freenet, since all types of content is allowed there.
[19:00] <CryingFreeman> s/types/kinds/
[19:01] <CryingFreeman> -s ... yay, my english is superb today.
[19:01] <Rlph> It is very good.
[19:01] <Rlph> I don't think it is likely they will mess with me here. They like my money too much.
[19:02] <Rlph> Also, it is relatively cheap to buy your way out of trouble.
[19:03] <CryingFreeman> Whatever the case, it might be wise not to advertise the usage too much. Bribing is a luxury I don't have.. Lucky bastard. ;)
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[19:04] <Rlph> I've been watching freenet for years, and I might actually give it a try at this point. it sounds like it has matured a lot.\
[19:04] <Rlph> Well, I think that is very good advice, about staying quiet.
[19:06] <Rlph> Thank you very much.
[19:06] <CryingFreeman> Yeah, it really has matured quite a bit. But as long as documentation and manuals are missing, the joe users (and therefore future developers) will stay off it for a while longer.
[19:06] <CryingFreeman> No problem. :)
[19:08] <Rlph> If I git it running, maybe I'll put some effort into writing docs some day. If I ever have any free time.
[19:09] <CryingFreeman> that's the issue, isn't it? writing docs is both boring and timeconsuming. :)
[19:10] <CryingFreeman> well. i'm off. Good luck with your freenetting.
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[22:09] <pseudochaos> Has anyone got freenet working on fedora core 8?
[22:10] <Tommy[D]> Why should there be a problem?
[22:11] <pseudochaos> The installer doesn't seem to work on it.
[22:11] <pseudochaos> Half-way through the text stops showing up, and I get an I/O error.
[22:12] <pseudochaos> Hold on, it may just have been an old version of java.
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[22:15] <pseudochaos> Ja, that was the problem.
[22:17] <mrdmx> how r u doing
[22:26] <pseudochaos> Quite well; and yourself?
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[22:28] <mrdmx> fine
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[23:41] <infinity0> any plans to put tango into a debian package?
[23:41] <infinity0> also, the debian package gdc is version 0.25, which seems to be newer than the 0.24 advertised here...
[23:42] <infinity0> whoops, wrong window :|
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