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[17:40] <Masquerade> hey?
[17:40] <Masquerade> lol am i in now?
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[17:40] <Masquerade> Euzeta: hey
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[17:41] <Masquerade> well i have a question
[17:44] <Masquerade> heh?
[17:44] <CyberKnet> not a whole lot of people hanging around
[17:45] <Masquerade> CyberKnet: ye
[17:46] <Masquerade> CyberKnet: so... wait
[17:46] <Masquerade> CyberKnet: just say something that i can be sure that im connected
[17:46] <Masquerade> brb
[17:58] <reflect> wow.
[17:58] <reflect> I'm submitting this one to bash
[18:01] <mrdmx> no, its dumb
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[18:02] <reflect> no shit? :)
[18:02] <mrdmx-away> :)
[18:02] <mrdmx-away> cya
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[18:03] <Masquerade> hey all
[18:03] <Masquerade> could someone answer me a question?
[18:03] <Balrog> my router won't work with UPnP (The IGD device we got isn't suiting our needs, let's disable the plugin) ... this is on a PPC Mac ... anything I can do?
[18:04] <reflect> Masquerade, never ask to ask a question - just ask.
[18:04] <Masquerade> reflect: oke^^
[18:05] <Masquerade> well, i just installed freenet on ubuntu hardy (gnome) - in the manual is written that i should visit a particular url, but this url doesnt work
[18:06] <reflect> the http://localhost:8888/?
[18:07] <Masquerade> gimme a second...
[18:07] <reflect> gimme the last line of "java -version"
[18:07] <Masquerade> its http://127.0.0.1:8888/wizard/ and http://127.0.0.1:8888/
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[18:08] <Masquerade> can it be replaced with localhost?
[18:08] <Masquerade> well, it also doesnt work
[18:09] <reflect> what, java -version gives you command not found?
[18:10] <Masquerade> nope, sry.
[18:10] <Masquerade> benjamin@moser-linux:~/freenet$ java -version
[18:10] <Masquerade> java version "1.5.0"
[18:10] <Masquerade> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu6)
[18:10] <Masquerade> then copyright etc follows
[18:10] <reflect> well, that's your problem there.. gij is the gcc java thing.. for freenet, you need a realy java
[18:11] <reflect> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[18:11] <Masquerade> so how to fix this? - lol oke
[18:12] <reflect> after it's installed, try the java -version again
[18:12] <reflect> it should tell you something like "Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 10.0-b22, mixed mode)"
[18:12] <Masquerade> its already installed
[18:13] <Masquerade> and already the newest version
[18:13] <reflect> ok then
[18:14] <reflect> hang on..
[18:14] <Masquerade> k...
[18:14] <reflect> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing the default Java to use
[18:16] <reflect> once you've done that, java -version should not display gij anymore
[18:17] <reflect> and then, you can start freenet
[18:17] <reflect> which is done by entering the Freenet directory and running the script "./run.sh" I believe
[18:18] <Masquerade> benjamin@moser-linux:~$ java -version
[18:18] <Masquerade> java version "1.6.0_06"
[18:18] <Masquerade> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_06-b02)
[18:18] <Masquerade> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b22, mixed mode, sharing)
[18:19] <reflect> (next time, a single line is enough, please)
[18:19] <Masquerade> sorry
[18:19] <reflect> I have never started my node manually before, so if I'm wrong, someone please correct me
[18:20] <Masquerade> the links above still dont work...
[18:21] <reflect> and you ran the ./run.sh script?
[18:22] <Masquerade> entered ./run.sh start, (starting freenet 0.7...)
[18:22] <Masquerade> then again the blinking cursor like its ready
[18:22] <reflect> then you need to paste the contents of wrapper.log to the pastebin in the topic of this channel
[18:24] <Masquerade> if you could give me a short introduction how to use the pastebin
[18:24] <Masquerade> im not very familiar with irc
[18:25] <Masquerade> ah
[18:25] <Masquerade> found it ^^
[18:25] <Masquerade> huh? "1+1=?"
[18:25] <reflect> yes, that's to counter spambots
[18:26] <Masquerade> lol^^
[18:26] <Masquerade> oke
[18:26] <Masquerade> its in guess
[18:26] <Masquerade> paste #67409
[18:27] <reflect> full url, please
[18:28] <Masquerade> forgive me: http://code.bulix.org/ezkkgr-67409
[18:29] <reflect> someone with significantly more experience than me will have to take over
[18:30] <Masquerade> ^^
[18:30] <Masquerade> oke
[18:30] <Masquerade> so see you
[18:30] <reflect> the last thing it says is "check the logs" so I guess you can go ahead and paste the contents of logs/freenet-latest.log to that pastebin
[18:31] <reflect> that's the only other log I know of
[18:32] <Masquerade> wheres it located?
[18:33] <reflect> in Freenet/logs/
[18:34] <Masquerade> eh.. ~/freenet/logs/?
[18:34] <reflect> look, where you found wrapper.log
[18:34] <reflect> type cd logs
[18:34] <reflect> there you'll find it
[18:34] <Masquerade> there is no log directory^^
[18:35] <reflect> logS
[18:35] <Masquerade> i know
[18:35] <Masquerade> typing error, sorry
[18:35] <reflect> ~/Freenet/logs should exist
[18:35] <Masquerade> it doesnt ^^
[18:36] <Masquerade> cd ~/freenet/logs -> no such file or directory
[18:36] <reflect> and if you try cd ~/Freenet/logs ?
[18:37] <reflect> mine has a capital F
[18:38] <Masquerade> mine hasnt a capital F. the directory isnt even found in the graphical environment, nautilus
[18:38] <reflect> then we'll wait for someone else
[18:39] <Masquerade> just dont have the time
[18:39] <Masquerade> i gonna leave this minutes
[18:39] <Masquerade> but, thank alot for your help!
[18:39] <Masquerade> *thanks
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[19:57] <hatseflats> ah
[19:57] <hatseflats> I see, no friend-exchange
[19:57] <hatseflats> that's a shame
[19:57] <hatseflats> ah well
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[20:03] <reflect> I gather that's cause if you're going to exchange references with random people you meet on irc, you can just aswell just run opennet
[20:03] <reflect> or, you could just leave.
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[21:33] <- *AlgorithmicContr* help
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[21:47] <aer_> hey... need some help over here
[21:48] <Luke771> sure
[21:48] <Luke771> what0's up
[21:49] <aer_> well.. after a hd/os-crash i lost all my jsite data including my url for my freesites. is there any way to recover the data?
[21:50] <Luke771> not from freenet
[21:51] <Tommy[D]> only if you have a way to recover the data from your hdd
[21:51] <aer_> damn
[21:51] <Tommy[D]> else everyone else could take over your freesite
[21:51] <Luke771> if you can recover other data, you can probably reciover jsite data too
[21:51] <Luke771> oh
[21:51] <Luke771> ok tpommy said it fiorst
[21:51] <Luke771> I'm helping a guy on another channel
[21:52] <aer_> thanks anyway guys
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[22:09] <spm_Draget> Is it normal that even after an hour I still get the 'you probally did not open UDP port XXXX' warning, eventho I am forwarding this port on my nat router?
[22:09] <Tommy[D]> is that port your darknet port?
[22:11] <spm_Draget> I think so, yes. The warningtitle is, freely translated, 'Connectionproblem: Please forward the UDP Port xxxx (eventually you already did that)'
[22:19] <spm_Draget> Und ich bekomm es auch nicht hin, von einem zweiten Rechner in meinem LAN auf die Freenet proxy Seite zuzugreifen =( Ich hab FPROXY allowed hosts aber 192.168.x.0/24 gegeben =(
[22:20] <Luke771> wrong window?
[22:20] <Luke771> #freenet-de
[22:20] <spm_Draget> Sorry
[22:20] <Luke771> np
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[22:21] <spm_Draget> Lets try english for a change :P So if I add 192.168.0.0/16 to the hosts that are allowed to connect to fproxy, and I still cannot connect in my lan to my freenet server, what am I doing wrong?
[22:22] <Tommy[D]> did you bind freenet to your local lan ip?
[22:23] <Tommy[D]> for german help use /join #freenet-de
[22:23] <spm_Draget> nope, using the standard setting, loopback (127.0.0.1). Must I bind it to its real LAN ip?
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[22:24] <Tommy[D]> you must add the LAN ip, yes (at least fproxy)
[22:25] <Tommy[D]> *to fproxy
[22:26] <smurfjob> anyone have any tips for using freenet with a m0n0wall router?
[22:27] <spm_Draget> I guess 'localhost' does npt work...
[22:27] <Tommy[D]> no extra tips, forward the ports and you should be done
[22:28] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: no, must be something like "127.0.0.1,192.168.x.x" where the second one should be the local ip where freenet is running
[22:28] <smurfjob> ya, having trouble doing that tho :( maybe my monwall install is borked
[22:30] <Tommy[D]> i have no access to that router, so i am not able to tell you :)
[22:30] <smurfjob> heh true. meh, i'll try it again. for some reason port forwarding sometimes works and sometimes doesn't work with monowall..
[22:34] <smurfjob> damn i wish they'd implement upnp on it
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[22:40] <spm_Draget> Ah, now it works. Thanks Tommy!
[22:41] <spm_Draget> Now it's just this connectionproblem-warning that I am worried about... isn't there some indicator if this port works for freenet or not?
[22:43] <Tommy[D]> What warning exactly?
[22:47] <spm_Draget> "Connection problems: Please forward UDP port 32xxx (you may have already done this)."
[22:50] <spm_Draget> I cannot find it in the documentation... when I enable ssl for my fproxy, how do I connect to it using ssl? https on the same port (8888) did not work
[22:51] <spm_Draget> Ops, wait a second
[22:52] <spm_Draget> Got it =)
[22:55] <spm_Draget> "sslEnable Cannot enabled ssl, config error" <.<
[23:03] <ZerothVortex> so what's the point in adding friends on freenet?
[23:04] <spm_Draget> ZerothVortex: : Eventho your peers cannot read the data you get from then, i.e. the websites you surf, then still know that you use freenet and can do traffic-usage analysis or eventually if some weakness in the protocoll is discovered, abuse it withotu your knowlege
[23:05] <ZerothVortex> spm_Draget: um
[23:05] <ZerothVortex> I don't understand how to navigate around Freenet
[23:05] <ZerothVortex> where are all the ebooks and stuff? heh
[23:06] <spm_Draget> So if you only have friends, you can be sure that they will not try to break anything and it is not a problem that they know that oyu use freenet
[23:06] <spm_Draget> Nobody else - if you only ocnnect to friends - will even know that oyu use freenet. Even oyur ISP with only see jibberish data then. So it is not needed, but advised.
[23:07] <spm_Draget> every site in the freenet has it's link. Sites that dynamically updated do not work. So new versions of websites have new links.
[23:07] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: remember you need to trust your friends, else there is no difference to normal Opennet
[23:07] <spm_Draget> Usually this is solved by having large indexes which link to even more indexes and stuff.
[23:07] <spm_Draget> A few general index-sites are on your entry-page of the proxy, ZerothVortex
[23:08] <spm_Draget> Tommy[D]: Yep, I know. And it is really hard to find more than 2 people who use freenet regularly who I can trust =(
[23:09] <spm_Draget> Actually just one... I know just one person so far =(
[23:09] <BamaTalker> can someone help me with a java pblm?
[23:09] <spm_Draget> Who has freenet up regularly
[23:11] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: tell us something about it and we tell you if we can help you ;)
[23:12] <BamaTalker> k, thnx...
[23:12] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: i have, but who tells me i can trust you? :)
[23:13] <ZerothVortex> I don't see many files on freenet
[23:13] <BamaTalker> i have j2sdk1.4.2_08, jdk1.5.0_14 and jre1.6.0.06 installed in /usr/java/
[23:13] <spm_Draget> You really should not trust me xD
[23:13] <BamaTalker> freenet installer only see 1.4.2
[23:13] <spm_Draget> Well, having contacts from the freenet IRC is still better than using purely random contacts, tho
[23:14] <BamaTalker> is there a switch that will tell the installer where to find 1.5 or 1.6?
[23:14] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: not really, those from IRC could be the bad guys trying to get into your friends list ;)
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[23:15] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: java --version does tell you what?
[23:15] <Tommy[D]> java -version
[23:15] <BamaTalker> k, moment pls
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[23:15] <spm_Draget> If I understood this correctly, using untrusted mode means my freenetclient is running around, shouting that it is a freenet client. So it only can get better, or?
[23:16] <BamaTalker> [root@philsfc6 philtr]# java --version
[23:16] <BamaTalker> java version "1.4.2"
[23:16] <BamaTalker> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20070626 (Red Hat 4.1.2-13)
[23:16] <spm_Draget> The Java Virtual Machien supports a -server parameter, which optimizes the hotspot compiler and virtual machien for running a programm for a longer time, like a server tool. Does freenet use this option?
[23:17] <BamaTalker> that's per the java log file
[23:18] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: so your system java vm is set to gij-1.4.2
[23:19] <BamaTalker> evidently...can't seem to change that :(
[23:19] <BamaTalker> or should say, don't know how to
[23:20] <spm_Draget> It is sad that SSL support is broken... =/
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[23:21] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: i dont know if the installer and freenet will work with gij, but the command from a web search should be the following:
[23:21] <Tommy[D]> update-alternatives –config java
[23:21] <Tommy[D]> you must probably running it as root or with sudo
[23:22] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] ,can i run that from the terminal?
[23:23] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: yes, where else would you type it? :)
[23:24] <BamaTalker> well some pgm do allow from the browser. 'web search' kinda threw me
[23:24] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: you joined #freenet and asked for help, so who is shouting more about running freenet, you or your client? :)
[23:25] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: i did search the web and found that command
[23:25] <BamaTalker> k Tommy[D] , i'm playing with it now
[23:26] <spm_Draget> You know what I mean... when it is running in untrusted mode
[23:26] <BamaTalker> had to do 'su -' first
[23:28] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] i got:...
[23:28] <BamaTalker> usage: alternatives --install <link> <name> <path> <priority>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> [--initscript <service>]
[23:28] <BamaTalker> [--slave <link> <name> <path>]*
[23:28] <BamaTalker> alternatives --remove <name> <path>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> alternatives --auto <name>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> alternatives --config <name>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> alternatives --display <name>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> alternatives --set <name> <path>
[23:28] <BamaTalker> not sure what to do next
[23:30] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: if you know what i mean... It does not help, if an app is "best secured" while there are other easy ways to get something known or to get in
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[23:31] <dbkr> [00:15] <spm_Draget> If I understood this correctly, using untrusted mode means my freenetclient is running around, shouting that it is a freenet client. So it only can get better, or?
[23:31] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: What did you enter?
[23:31] <spm_Draget> Jup. But still I think the risk of adding someone you do not want to add is lower if you connect to people who you talked to on IRC then connection to completely random people
[23:31] <dbkr> it's better now - you just don't use opennet
[23:32] <dbkr> but if you don't know other people using freenet, there's no other option
[23:32] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] , i typed ' update-alternatives –config java' and got the above output
[23:33] <Tommy[D]> spm_Draget: if i want to do something bad to specific people and dont know much about freenet, the easiest way would be to hang around at IRC and ask for friends or similar things :)
[23:33] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: add another - before config
[23:33] <spm_Draget> Dont worry buddy, we will not swap refs :-P
[23:35] <Luke771> on the other hand, you may hand around for a while and possibly exchange ref with someone after you have gottent to know each other, even tho only thru irc, well enough to hm... "kinda trust" each other
[23:35] <Luke771> but just pop up "hi guys anyone want to swap refs?" is pointless. That's what Opennet is for
[23:36] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] , I got: *+ 1 /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.4.2-gcj/bin/java
[23:36] <BamaTalker> Enter to keep the current selection[+], or type selection number:
[23:40] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] , '/usr/lib/jvm' doesn't show either 1.5 or 1.6
[23:41] <BamaTalker> only 1.4
[23:43] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: you are sure you have the other versions installed?
[23:46] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] , they show in Synaptic Pkg Mgr as being installed
[23:48] <BamaTalker> Tommy[D] ... [philtr6@philsfc6 ~]$ rpm -q jdk
[23:48] <BamaTalker> jdk-1.5.0_14-fcs
[23:48] <BamaTalker> [philtr6@philsfc6 ~]$ rpm -q jre
[23:48] <BamaTalker> jre-1.6.0_06-fcs
[23:48] <BamaTalker> [philtr6@philsfc6 ~]$
[23:49] <BamaTalker> Gawd! I luv linux!!
[23:49] <Tommy[D]> BamaTalker: better ask in #fedora how to change the java version as i dont know the details of that distribution
[23:50] <BamaTalker> k, Tommy[D] thnx for the help :)
[23:51] <BamaTalker> i'll give it a try
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