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[0:00] <gredsen> is freenet faster than it was a couple years ago?
[0:00] <Zorix> yea i figured
[0:00] <Tommy[D]> or will you insert r16800 as 1096?
[0:00] <Zorix> its already inserted as 1096 heh
[0:01] <toad_> no, i'm not putting out 1097 yet
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[0:01] <toad_> 1096 is out
[0:01] <Ratchet> ok
[0:02] <Tommy[D]> toad_, is r16800 something helpfull? should i use r16799 or r16800 for package building?
[0:03] <Cooo> damn. The mirrors is slow today :(
[0:03] <toad_> Tommy[D]: 16800 is trunk i.e. for testing
[0:03] <toad_> we've discovered why the mirrors are slow ... emu is under attack :(
[0:04] <Ratchet> :-(
[0:05] <Cooo> toad_: Not good :(
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[0:11] <FuriousRage> toad_: a suggestion, make it possible to change ALL configs on the fly, even SSL, if it requires the node to restart give that option and still let the user to change it instead of forcing the users to shut down the node and edit the freenet.ini manually
[0:12] <toad_> FuriousRage: agreed, it's a question of priorities
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[0:12] <toad_> FuriousRage: quite a few config options used to be shut-down-and-edit, and are now on-the-fly
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[0:12] <toad_> w.r.t. SSL, it remembers iirc, so you just need to change it and then restart
[0:13] <FuriousRage> annoying linux/java's ways to write crlf's, gah always have to remember to open freenet.ini with a specific program to convert it to real crlf's
[0:13] <toad_> ummm
[0:13] <FuriousRage> no, it stayed disabled with the usually error it couldnt change
[0:13] <toad_> it's pretty standard on the web isn't it?
[0:13] <FuriousRage> not the square boxes instead of crlf's
[0:14] <toad_> yeah, it shows the error, and changes it anyway
[0:14] <FuriousRage> no
[0:14] <toad_> so if you restart it, it will work
[0:14] <FuriousRage> staid disabled
[0:14] <toad_> although it won't work if you don't restart
[0:14] <Tommy[D]> toad_, node traffic does look much better now
[0:15] <FuriousRage> toad_: the fcp.ssl fproxy.ssl is it forced ssl on those or optional when enabled?
[0:15] <Tommy[D]> and pInstandReject too
[0:15] <toad_> FuriousRage: sorry?
[0:15] <toad_> FuriousRage: i might be wrong, i didn't write the patch
[0:16] <toad_> ask ET on Frost to fix it :)
[0:16] <FuriousRage> i was asking
[0:16] <toad_> on the 0.7 bugs board
[0:16] <FuriousRage> not complaining
[0:16] <FuriousRage> i see 4+ ssl options
[0:16] <toad_> well file a bug then
[0:16] <FuriousRage> its not a bug...............
[0:16] <FuriousRage> its a question
[0:16] <toad_> lets see ... the SSL section applies to all of them
[0:17] <toad_> fproxy, tmci, fcp
[0:17] <toad_> but you turn it on or off for each
[0:17] <toad_> does that clarify?
[0:17] <FuriousRage> no
[0:17] <FuriousRage> that i figured out my self
[0:18] <Cooo> toad_: NPE seems to gone now. Could not parse sub-manifest still shows but that is expected?
[0:19] <toad_> probably
[0:19] <toad_> it looks like huge freesite support is flakey, it's worth investigating
[0:19] <toad_> maybe you should file a bug
[0:21] <Cooo> might do that.
[0:23] <Cooo> spider is now using 100% CPU again. Still nothing in myindex7 folder after 18 minutes
[0:24] <FuriousRage> geez, node offline all day and i find ~5 new updates..
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[0:27] <Cooo> FuriousRage: things are happening :)
[0:32] <Cooo> toad_: I am having password troubles. Can't seem to remember the password to the bug tracker neither my mail pass :( Do you have the time to file some kind of bug?
[0:34] <toad_> :|
[0:34] <toad_> Cooo: not really :|
[0:34] <toad_> Cooo: mail devl ?
[0:34] <toad_> i can reset your password
[0:34] <toad_> does that help?
[0:35] * toad_ does
[0:35] <Cooo> I could mail devl as I am using another mail for that one.
[0:36] <Cooo> resetting my pass wuld probably send a new one to my registred mail account?
[0:36] <toad_> yeah
[0:36] <Cooo> that wont be helpul:( Can't acess the mail I registred with :(
[0:38] <Cooo> I guess I have to swap HDD;s tomorrow and change my mail pass. I love the remember this password function sometimes. :)
[0:42] <toad_> Cooo: well i could change your email address...
[0:42] <toad_> Cooo: /msg me
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[0:46] <FuriousRage> toad_: hows one supposed to use the SSL on the node when its enabled?
[0:46] <toad_> the elenafilotova mirror really ought to include the videos, if they're owned by her
[0:47] <toad_> FuriousRage: no idea, read the documentation :)
[0:47] <FuriousRage> what docs..
[0:47] <toad_> what it says on the config's?
[0:47] <FuriousRage> enable, disasble
[0:47] <Cooo> the elenafilotova thingy is probably faked :(
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[0:47] <toad_> whatever
[0:48] <toad_> Cooo: well, in that she probably didn't ride through it on a motorbike? probably!
[0:48] <toad_> i think the pictures are real though
[0:48] <toad_> mostly :)
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[0:48] <FuriousRage> ..so tossing in stuff you dont even know how to use..
[0:48] <toad_> like i said i didn't write the patch
[0:48] <toad_> but it's straightforward enough
[0:49] <Cooo> toad_: Yep. Sha probably visited with a tour bus. Interesting reading and nice pictures though
[0:49] <toad_> it's a thin wrapper over java's SSL classes
[0:49] <Cooo> *she
[0:49] <toad_> and as such, it will probably require you to manually create certs etc
[0:49] <toad_> it's a first attempt and not complete
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[0:53] <Cooo> toad_: bug filed. https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1957 probably not in the right category though :(
[0:54] <toad_> hmmm that may be caused by old freesites inserted by old buggy versions of the node
[0:54] <toad_> there were some bugs fixed that caused that sort of thing
[0:55] <toad_> i might close the bug on those grounds .. but not tonight
[0:55] <Cooo> Ahhh,
[0:55] <Cooo> I make a note of to the bug.
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[0:57] <Cooo> Now I just need to figure out why the spider doesn't seem to be writing anything to disk
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[4:44] <EricX> when i start my node is says that it can't error code 5, anybody who knows..? (i have had freenet installed before, uninstalled it, and now it can't be installed)
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[6:11] <EriX> anybody wanna be my friend on darknet? :-/
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[6:31] <EricXX> no one here??
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[7:54] <cigarr> hi
[7:54] <cigarr> what happend to refs chan ?
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[9:05] <kob> hi
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[9:16] <cigarr> someone @home ?
[9:16] <EricXX> i am
[9:17] <cigarr> hi
[9:17] <EricXX> waiting for the opennet to connect to strangers
[9:17] <cigarr> me too ;)
[9:17] <EricXX> have waited 3 h..
[9:17] <EricXX> used darknet before
[9:17] <EricXX> reinstalled freenet today, haven't used it for a month
[9:18] <cigarr> looking for the refs channel
[9:18] <EricXX> it's gone
[9:19] <cigarr> hmm whi ?
[9:19] <cigarr> sorri my y is gone ;)
[9:21] <EricXX> where is my node ref for "strangers"? changing the first line so it says opennet=yes instead, everything else the same?
[9:21] <cigarr> i dont know
[9:23] <Ratchet> EricXX: have you downloaded the seednodes.fref file?
[9:24] <Ratchet> or better: check in your freenet dir if the file's there
[9:25] <Ratchet> if not, download it, put it in the freenet folder and restart node.
[9:25] <Ratchet> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/opennet/seednodes.fref
[9:25] <EricXX> no.. there is one in the folder, can i download a newer one?
[9:25] <EricXX> ahh.. thanx
[9:25] <Ratchet> which version of freenet are you running?
[9:27] <EricXX> 0.7, build 1092
[9:27] <Ratchet> upgrade to 1096
[9:27] <EricXX> how?
[9:28] <Ratchet> running linux?
[9:28] <EricXX> no, vista.. is there a button to just press
[9:29] <Ratchet> hm. i don't know how to do it in vista...
[9:29] <EricXX> where's the file..... jar-file...
[9:30] <Ratchet> you could do it manually. download the freenet-stable-latest from http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/
[9:30] <EricXX> you can choose if it's gonna update to the newest version under settings... i have it on true
[9:31] <Ratchet> the automatic update only works if you have node connections
[9:31] <EricXX> ahh.. of course..
[9:31] <EricXX> just replace the current jar-file with the new one after stopping the service?
[9:32] <Ratchet> yes
[9:33] <Ratchet> is there a update.bat or similar in your freenet dir?
[9:33] <Ratchet> if yes, you could try it with that
[9:33] <Ratchet> sorry, I've never seen a windows install, so that's just guessing :-)
[9:35] <EricXX> okey, let's see.. otherwise.. i can only find the freenet-ext file from Dec 20..
[9:36] <Ratchet> you can use freenet-r16800-snapshot.jar . it's the latest trunk version
[9:37] <EricXX> i'll go with the update.cmd file i found
[9:38] <Ratchet> ok :-)
[9:43] <EricXX> it has said shutting down for three minutes now
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[9:43] <EricXX> did it myself first, but then the update.cmd didn't like that
[9:44] <Ratchet> did the update.cmd do something usefull?
[9:44] <EricXX> the seednodes file was exactly as big as the one I had..
[9:45] <EricXX> it is working still, now 5 minutes.. it says it will take some time "Don't abort!"
[9:46] <EricXX> but now something is wrong.
[9:46] <EricXX> taking too long
[9:47] <Ratchet> hm. I'd just wait a bit more
[9:47] <Ratchet> vrsion 1092 was deprecated. that's the reason you didn't get any connections
[9:48] <Ratchet> sadly i don't have any experience with vista...
[9:48] <EricXX> it said a few lines earlier that freenet-ext.jar.new couldn't be found.. (error message)
[9:48] <EricXX> but the last line before "wait" says: New version found!
[9:49] <EricXX> i can see that the service has been stopped long ago..
[9:50] <EricXX> hm.. i will abort and run again
[9:50] <Ratchet> that's what i would do: download the r16800 jar and the freenet-ext.jar from the download page, replace the files in the freenet dir, and restart the service
[9:50] <EricXX> okey, should i rename the r16... file?
[9:50] <Ratchet> yes, rename it to freenet.jar
[9:50] <Ratchet> but make backup copies of the old files :-)
[9:50] <EricXX> yes, i always do that :)
[9:51] <EricXX> you mean the r16800 snapshot jar file?
[9:51] <Ratchet> yes
[9:52] <Ratchet> it's the latest trunk version of 1096
[9:52] <Ratchet> I'm running it, too
[9:57] <EricXX> now it's up and running with build 1096!!
[9:58] <EricXX> what next
[9:58] <EricXX> do you have peers no
[9:58] <EricXX> now
[9:58] <Ratchet> now wait for some time to get stranger connections
[9:58] <Ratchet> it _should_ happen automatically
[9:58] <Ratchet> if you have activated opennet/insecuremode
[9:58] <EricXX> mm
[9:58] <EricXX> yes i have
[9:59] <EricXX> i have a dyndns address in ip override, good, bad or useless?
[9:59] <Ratchet> good
[10:00] <Ratchet> you could forward your udp ports, that might speed up things. but it's not necessary
[10:00] <EricXX> forward, i have opened the udp ports in the firewall, you mean something else
[10:01] <Ratchet> if you're running the node on the same machine as the firewall, that's enough
[10:02] <EricXX> yes i am..
[10:02] <Ratchet> do you get some message on the fron page that the node is announcing?
[10:02] <Ratchet> front page
[10:03] <EricXX> "The node is currently attempting to connect to seednodes and announce itself to the opennet (Strangers network). This may take a few minutes."
[10:03] <Ratchet> then you just have to wait :-)
[10:03] <EricXX> :)
[10:03] <Ratchet> you can check the "Strangers" page if there are already some connections up
[10:04] <EricXX> nope
[10:05] <Ratchet> it can take up to 30 minutes
[10:06] <EricXX> gonna have a sandwich..
[10:06] <EricXX> big thanks to you if this works.. byw for now
[10:06] <EricXX> bye
[10:06] <Ratchet> bye
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[10:12] <EricXX> curious, what reference "text" should you provide in the strangers section, if you don't want to be automatically connected.. or should you just ignore those fields under strangers.. (i used darknet before with bulix.org etc)
[10:13] <EricXX> i will just wait now, as i said just curious
[10:13] <Ratchet> you can exchange opennet refs similar to darknet refs
[10:14] <EricXX> but how do you get your ref that you're gonna share
[10:14] <Ratchet> isn't there a "My Node Reference (as text)" at the bottom of the strangers page?
[10:15] <Ratchet> there usually is the opennet ref
[10:15] <EricXX> no, only under friends!
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[10:16] <Ratchet> perhaps you can see it, if you activate "advanced mode" in the config page?
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[10:23] <EricXX> how many peers do you have
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[10:23] <Nogaso> with opennet it's capped at 20 by default
[10:24] <Ratchet> EricXX: yes, the opennet ref only show up after activating "advanced mode" in config page
[10:24] <EricXX> okey, tried to find it, what does it start with? it's not like 20 lines like with darknet right?
[10:24] <Ratchet> it looks similar to the darknet ref
[10:26] <Nogaso> you can find it at the Strangers page (like Ratchet said) or at /strangers/myref.txt
[10:26] <Ratchet> "advanced mode" is in the FProxy section of config page
[10:27] <Ratchet> set it to "true", then check strangers page again
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[10:29] <EricXX> ahh.. yes.. when i checked the strangers section again there it was
[10:29] <EricXX> ratchet, wanna exchange with me?
[10:30] <Ratchet> my peers list is full, my node would reject your connection
[10:30] <EricXX> okey
[10:31] <EricXX> "The node is currently attempting to connect to seednodes and announce itself to the opennet (Strangers network). This may take a few minutes. We have recently sent 0 announcements, 0 of which are still running, and added 0 nodes (0 nodes have rejected us). We are currently connected to 0 seednodes and trying to connect to another 2. For the next 18 seconds, the node is waiting for the nodes that it just announced to to connect, if there
[10:31] <EricXX> informative, but it seems slow still.. but i just have to wait i guess
[10:31] <Ratchet> yes
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[10:36] <Nogaso> my node starts announcing, then says no seednodes.fref found (it's there) :(
[10:37] <EricXX> ratchet: can you add people under friends so that you are both in darknet AND opennet at the same time?
[10:37] <Ratchet> yes
[10:38] <Ratchet> you should start with opennet and then gradually add trusted peers
[10:38] <EricXX> mm
[10:38] <Ratchet> when you have enough darknet friends, deactivate opennet
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[10:41] <EricXX> yes, and couldn't it be quite safe to disable opennet when you have 20 people, one of them might be an evil guy.. but I don't know that many people that I REALLY can trust as FRIENDS so it doesn't seem to make a big difference
[10:42] <EricXX> is it easier to lose connection with strangers than friends..
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[10:42] <Ratchet> yes, opennet nodes come and go :-)
[10:42] <Ratchet> but your node will look for fresh ones
[10:42] <EricXX> okey..
[10:43] <EricXX> most due to dhcp right? people should use dyndns or similar more?
[10:44] <Ratchet> there's a mechanism that dynamic ips don't have to use dyndns accounts. having one just makes it a little faster after ip change
[10:45] <EricXX> aha, they are identified in another way..
[10:45] <EricXX> than the IP
[10:45] <Ratchet> the node periodically sends ARKs (Adress Resolution Keys) through the network
[10:46] <EricXX> aha
[10:46] <EricXX> my node announcing is still having zeroes everywhere :-(
[10:47] <Ratchet> that's strange
[10:48] <EricXX> there were some 3s 4s and 5s but not a single real connection
[10:48] <p0s> where is freenet-ext in the svn tree?
[10:49] <Nogaso> /trunk/contrib/
[10:49] <EricXX> is there nowhere to exchange refs now after the channel is gone
[10:50] <Nogaso> pms mostly, and a board on frost (not that it helps you...)
[10:52] <p0s> thanks
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[11:01] <Nogaso> EricXX: try dark-code.bulix.org :)
[11:01] <Ratchet> bulix doesn't accept refs at the moment
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[11:02] <Ratchet> "Please don't spam the pastebin!"
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[11:10] <Nogaso> what is it your trying to post here?
[11:10] <Ratchet> nothing, we're in a /query
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[11:49] <thehappypingpong> hello
[11:49] <thehappypingpong> i installed freenet
[11:49] <thehappypingpong> but cant seem to get it to work
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[11:49] <thehappypingpong> can anyone please help me?
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[11:49] <Nogaso> work as in connect or starting the node?
[11:50] <thehappypingpong> Connecting
[11:50] <thehappypingpong> the homepage says "no peers found"
[11:50] <thehappypingpong> which has a critical icon
[11:50] <Nogaso> ok, have you tried to enable opennet/insecure mode?
[11:50] <thehappypingpong> "Warning: Promiscuous Mode Enabled: Your node will connect to Strangers"
[11:50] <thehappypingpong> which has an ! icon
[11:50] <Nogaso> which version are you using?
[11:51] <thehappypingpong> and "Unknown external address", which has an ! icon
[11:51] <thehappypingpong> version 0.5.2.8
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[11:52] <thehappypingpong> Last time i came #freenet-refs was still open
[11:52] <thehappypingpong> and i added some people
[11:52] <thehappypingpong> but it could never connect to them
[11:53] <thehappypingpong> actually, the homepage has a different version: Freenet 0.7 Build #1070 r15591
[11:53] <thehappypingpong> Freenet-ext Build #17 r14866
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[11:53] <Nogaso> right, that makes more sense :)
[11:53] <thehappypingpong> I got the 0.5.2.8 from the little dolphin icon in my notification area
[11:53] <Nogaso> anyway, you should upgrade to #1096
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> ok
[11:55] <TheSeeker> so yo're running 0.5 and 0.7 side-by-side?
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> am I?
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> Lol
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> I have no idea what I'm doing :S
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> i think i put 0.7 in
[11:55] <TheSeeker> if you have a blue-bunny in your tray that says 0.5.2.8 ... sounds like 0.5 to me >_>
[11:55] <thehappypingpong> then someone said 0.5 was beter
[11:56] <thehappypingpong> so i ended up putting both on
[11:56] <Ratchet> then someone had no clue :-)
[11:56] <thehappypingpong> i think the argument was that there are more people on 0.5 or something
[11:56] <thehappypingpong> so i should uninstall 0.5?
[11:56] <TheSeeker> that's debatable. but the bottom line is that it's no longer officially supported.
[11:57] <thehappypingpong> i see
[11:57] <p0s> and since 0.7 also has opennet support now you'll be able to use it like 0.5
[11:58] <TheSeeker> if you can live with the persistent 'warning' about running in opennet mode...
[11:58] <thehappypingpong> i dont mind that, as long as it works :P
[11:58] <thehappypingpong> I'm installing 0.7 now
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[11:59] <TheSeeker> I thgouth it was already isntalled o.O you mean updating?
[11:59] <thehappypingpong> I went to the freenode website and just clicked "install freenet 0.7"
[11:59] <thehappypingpong> I assume that's the latest version?
[11:59] <TheSeeker> gah, too tired to type. 4 am, have to get up for work in 4 hours... zzz
[12:00] <thehappypingpong> lol, I know that feeling Seeker
[12:00] <Nogaso> should be latest version
[12:00] <TheSeeker> [03:53.08] <thehappypingpong> actually, the homepage has a different version: Freenet 0.7 Build #1070 r15591
[12:00] <TheSeeker> [03:53.13] <thehappypingpong> Freenet-ext Build #17 r14866
[12:00] <TheSeeker> [03:56.07] <thehappypingpong> so i ended up putting both on
[12:00] <TheSeeker> ... so you already have 0.7 installed... or did you uninstall both?
[12:01] <thehappypingpong> I didn't uninstall anything
[12:01] <thehappypingpong> I just started installing freenet 0.7 over the top
[12:01] <TheSeeker> then why are you running the install for 0.7 again when it's already running? x_x
[12:01] <thehappypingpong> I though I had to get the latest version
[12:02] <thehappypingpong> java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL: http://www.acc.umu.se/~cyberdo/freenetmirror/alpha/plugins/XMLLibrarian/XMLLibrarian-r16479.jar
[12:02] <thehappypingpong> I'm getting lots of errors like that
[12:02] <p0s> i think maybe you should just uninstall everything, delete all remaining files manually after that, and then install just 0.7
[12:02] <TheSeeker> quit the isntaller. shut down the node. run the update script.
[12:03] <TheSeeker> uninstall 0.5 and then restart the 0.7 node.
[12:03] <thehappypingpong> Ok, i've shut down both nodes
[12:03] <TheSeeker> g'nite
[12:03] <thehappypingpong> I'm running an update script from the freenet directory
[12:03] <p0s> bye
[12:04] <Nogaso> good night
[12:04] <thehappypingpong> Bye seeker, thanks for your help
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[12:44] <Nogaso> thehappypingpong: how did the update go?
[12:46] <thehappypingpong> still going
[12:46] <thehappypingpong> I uninstalled and its reinstalling
[12:46] <thehappypingpong> It's up to 11/11 - downloading jsite
[12:46] <thehappypingpong> I also ran the wizard on the freenet proxy page
[12:47] <thehappypingpong> I've got two warnings - one about being in insecure mode, and the other one says "Port restricted cone NAT detected"
[12:47] <thehappypingpong> It also says "The node is currently attempting to connect to seednodes and announce itself to the opennet (Strangers network). This may take a few minutes."
[12:47] <thehappypingpong> Actually, ignore that last bit
[12:48] <thehappypingpong> I refreshed the page and the last bit disappeared
[12:48] <Nogaso> if you go to Strangers, what does the numbers say?
[12:48] <thehappypingpong> Current activity: * Inserts: 0, Requests: 3, Transferring Requests: 0
[12:49] <Nogaso> in the title, something like (x/y/z/...
[12:49] <thehappypingpong> Strangers -> peer statistics: Connected:9, Busy: 3, never connected: 2
[12:49] <Nogaso> ok, then you should be fine
[12:49] <thehappypingpong> Thanks very much
[12:49] <thehappypingpong> Now I just have to figure out how to use it lol
[12:49] <thehappypingpong> I need to use thaw or frost or something right?
[12:50] <Nogaso> you don't _need to_, but its a good starting point
[12:52] <Nogaso> btw, when (if) you start using frost, there will be a lot of nonsense...
[12:52] <Nogaso> its spam, just ignore it...
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[13:17] <beelio> Hello?
[13:18] <p0s> hi
[13:18] <beelio> hi p0s
[13:18] <beelio> ive got freenet installed
[13:18] <beelio> Im not sure what to do next though
[13:18] <beelio> It seems to be working, Im getting messages come in through frost
[13:20] <p0s> fine :)
[13:20] <p0s> 0.7 ? opennet enabled?
[13:20] <p0s> or darknet?
[13:21] <beelio> 0.7
[13:21] <beelio> darknet I think
[13:21] <p0s> did you add nodes to darknet?
[13:22] <beelio> maybe it's opennet then
[13:22] <beelio> Currently I have "Warning: Insecure Mode Enabled: Your node will connect to strangers" on the homepage
[13:22] <beelio> and there are 9 people connected to me
[13:22] <p0s> then it's opennet
[13:22] <p0s> so you're ready to use freenet
[13:23] <beelio> I feel like I've just got a car but dont know how to drive yet :P
[13:23] <p0s> browse it by selecting one of the index pages linked at your nodes home page
[13:23] <p0s> or use frost
[13:25] <beelio> ok, thanks
[13:25] <beelio> How do I use frost to find something?
[13:26] <beelio> do I have to wait for it to be mentioned on the boards?
[13:26] <p0s> well i just started using frost, too
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[13:26] <p0s> i guess you have to tell it to update the boards and wait for this to happen
[13:27] <beelio> I've got it on automatic update
[13:27] <beelio> I'm actually downloading a file :P
[13:27] <Nogaso> also, you might want to look at Thaw
[13:30] <beelio> ok, thanks
[13:30] <beelio> I see, I went through the website and found an index
[13:31] <beelio> Then I picked one of the options, which was some pictures
[13:31] <beelio> Now a page is loading with some linked pictures on it
[13:31] <beelio> The page is very very slow though
[13:33] <p0s> freenet requires some patience, yes :)
[13:34] <p0s> i don't know whether this is correct [i.e. i didnt read this anywhere, its just my common sense which told me] but i'd let it run for a few days to get "integrated" into the network well
[13:34] <beelio> ok
[13:34] <p0s> also its cache will increase
[13:34] <beelio> thats ok, i have time
[13:34] <beelio> :)
[13:37] <Nogaso> p0s: i don't think the integration is as important as it was with 0.5
[13:38] <beelio> Oh....that's a bad sign then!
[13:38] <Nogaso> how so?
[13:38] <beelio> It's taking forever...
[13:39] <p0s> well if thats true then we just need more nodes in the network ;)
[13:39] <beelio> Hmmm...it kind of goes against the old saying...."no nodes is good nodes" lol
[13:40] <Nogaso> freesites with lots of pics are generally slow...
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[13:41] <beelio> Is that because they are more popular?
[13:42] <Nogaso> no, pictures are usually big(er than text)
[13:42] <Nogaso> more popular stuff should be faster...
[13:42] <beelio> Aha
[13:43] <Nogaso> btw, have you changed connection limits in your browser
[13:43] <Nogaso> it might help with those sites
[13:44] <beelio> I might have, I cant remember...I did something in the wizard at the start
[13:45] <beelio> I remember, it asked what connection speed I have
[13:45] <beelio> I said "slower"
[13:45] <beelio> I only have adsl connection
[13:45] <Nogaso> nothing like that, settings that apply to your browser, not the node
[13:46] <beelio> You mean firefox? Everything in firefox is just the default
[13:48] <Nogaso> ok, look at http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=faq#connections
[13:48] <Nogaso> helps a lot if you use tabs and browse sites with lots of pics
[13:49] <beelio> Thanks!
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[14:01] <beelio> So if i install freenet 0.5 at the same time as 0.7, will they both work?
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[14:24] <Nico_32> ----[my ref]----
[14:25] <Nico_32> opennet=false
[14:25] <Nico_32> identity=UJ0lCeHHb32uowcwVoLHoLLPkB7~e-EAKUFILPsU958
[14:25] <Nico_32> location=0.1791100722894825
[14:25] <Nico_32> testnet=false
[14:25] <Nico_32> myName=Isodora
[14:25] <Nico_32> lastGoodVersion=Fred,0.7,1.0,1094
[14:25] <Nico_32> sig=356295628d55be89f8f2e8c44d536d0f322fbdcd50f56c3fbe6b58c440849990,16365424980d7c92875fdad977f9b25da0f26ba30cd48d52311b4ce93bea8f11
[14:25] <Nico_32> version=Fred,0.7,1.0,1096
[14:25] <Nico_32> dsaPubKey.y=Dk5~Dr8ywW~dTACZkeVcJx9zA~wNEn3GDGnwUC8KM7KmLEv-HEIrhYeyOtwVsCXPwd6YyLrAL-L~NcoqqKk7dafYReTUcUtkXfs2iaBuYGGTSVU3eybg8wF-ZBMstY0ZyAjpj6PFfzBvg~xIQ9TI8VtHyBOFaKItFeEEkoxljN~pQoGRamn7WQqMgsrLmnqU0f9FIc71guahW0E-1d~yKdlsyo7-bBJVbtakKspwTKIwZAOvAGgxffWDtQy-zzv9CpcJu9fNgWOQXYjPgTj1d9zpmz1-U3sIjLNSiCkThpOmCmJFQSHJVF0OglLZmMq3PPTeGg453DCyAtG8Kk1MrA
[14:25] <Nico_32> physical.udp=damip.thenico.fr.eu.org:13825;2001:0:53aa:64c:0:3d9c:ad09:7dbc%11:13825;82.246.130.67:13825
[14:25] <Nico_32> dsaGroup.g=UaRatnDByf0QvTlaaAXTMzn1Z15LDTXe-J~gOqXCv0zpz83CVngSkb--bVRuZ9R65OFg~ATKcuw8VJJwn1~A9p5jRt2NPj2EM7bu72O85-mFdBhcav8WHJtTbXb4cxNzZaQkbPQUv~gEnuEeMTc80KZVjilQ7wlTIM6GIY~ZJVHMKSIkEU87YBRtIt1R~BJcnaDAKBJv~oXv1PS-6iwQRFMynMEmipfpqDXBTkqaQ8ahiGWA41rY8d4jDhrzIgjvkzfxkkcCpFFOldwW8w8MEecUoRLuhKnY1sm8nnTjNlYLtc1Okeq-ba0mvwygSAf4wxovwY6n1Fuqt8yZe1PDVg
[14:25] <Nico_32> dsaGroup.q=ALFDNoq81R9Y1kQNVBc5kzmk0VvvCWosXY5t9E9S1tN5
[14:25] <Nico_32> dsaGroup.p=AIYIrE9VNhM38qPjirGGT-PJjWZBHY0q-JxSYyDFQfZQeOhrx4SUpdc~SppnWD~UHymT7WyX28eV3YjwkVyc~--H5Tc83hPjx8qQc7kQbrMb~CJy7QBX~YSocKGfioO-pwfRZEDDguYtOJBHPqeenVDErGsfHTCxDDKgL2hYM8Ynj8Kes0OcUzOIVhShFSGbOAjJKjeg82XNXmG1hhdh2tnv8M4jJQ9ViEj425Mrh6O9jXovfPmcdYIr3C~3waHXjQvPgUiK4N5Saf~FOri48fK-PmwFZFc-YSgI9o2-70nVybSnBXlM96QkzU6x4CYFUuZ7-B~je0ofeLdX7xhehuk
[14:25] <Nico_32> ark.pubURI=SSK@76MLEAsZO079i~4L9el7licfhvDPq5H33mLu2q-exU0,6XFe59~T6ZwI51Kjv0tGBJheBDLvAVLfItEIOEvcJFc,AQACAAE/ark
[14:25] <Nico_32> ark.number=69
[14:25] <Nico_32> auth.negTypes=2
[14:25] <Nico_32> End
[14:25] <Nico_32> ----[end]----
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[15:10] <Tommy[D]> Nico_32, 1. dont tell everyone your ref
[15:10] <Tommy[D]> 2. if you dont know trusted friends, enable opennet, that will give you peers the automatic way
[15:11] <Nico_32> Tommy[D]: it was an error
[15:11] <Nico_32> i paste the ref in the false window
[15:12] <Tommy[D]> Nico_32, still you should not trade darknet refs with strangers or do you have a good reason for that?
[15:12] <Nico_32> isodora == my public node
[15:13] <Nico_32> opennet enabled
[15:13] <Nico_32> so having Isodora's darknet ref in the wild
[15:13] <Nico_32> is not a problem
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[16:08] <makomk> Oops. Accidentally interrupted the conversion of my Frost database the first time. Apparently, it wasn't designed to give a second chance...
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[16:30] <TheSeeker> they do say to make a backup...
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[16:40] <cezane> hello!
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[16:43] <rusto> hello my config in darknet, y whant echange my refs, sorry for my english ; )
[16:47] <Nogaso> if you want to connect, you might want to try opennet/insecure mode/Strangers
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[16:54] <kobbay> hello
[16:54] <kobbay> i try ti run freenet 0.7 but have some problems
[16:54] <kobbay> some one to help me ?
[16:56] <Nogaso> sure
[16:57] <rusto> <Nogaso> im very parano, because i live in france ; )
[16:58] <Nogaso> ok, but trading darknet refs with random people here is probably just as bad as opennet...
[16:59] <kobbay> ok, thanks, i run the last ubuntu, i downloaded freenet 0.7 and started it with ./run.sh start
[16:59] <kobbay> but then when i type ./run.sh stop
[17:00] <Nogaso> rusto: anyway, #freenet-refs has been removed (in favor of opennet) so I guess your pretty much on your own...
[17:00] <kobbay> i get Freenet was not running
[17:01] <Nogaso> anything in wrapper.log?
[17:01] <Nogaso> that might tell you why it didn't start
[17:02] <rusto> sorry i traduct via google traduct is very long
[17:02] <kobbay> ok, i'll check the log
[17:03] <Nogaso> traduct?
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[17:03] <Nogaso> btw, have you tried to see if there are anyone in #freenet-fr
[17:03] <rusto> i not speak english
[17:04] <Nogaso> #freenet-fr is french
[17:04] <rusto> i knows , not echange refs
[17:07] <rusto> thank for you service, i return more time
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[17:09] <TIRC_4471> #freenet-it
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[17:11] <TIRC_4471> italian?
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[17:24] <Nogaso> kobbay: did you find anything?
[17:25] <Cooo> Hi all.
[17:25] <Nogaso> hi
[17:26] <Cooo> I see thereis mostly ref related speak going on today.
[17:28] <Nogaso> i guess thats what you get for assuming that opennet is easier :P
[17:29] <makomk> Hmmmm... http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/23/1432216 looks like it might affect Australian use of Freenet.
[17:30] <kobbay> yes, it seems i have a problem with jre : Error: A JNI error has occurred, please check your installation and try again
[17:30] <kobbay> i'm currently re-installing
[17:31] <Nogaso> are you using gnu java by any chance?
[17:31] <kobbay> how to check ?
[17:31] <kobbay> java -version ??
[17:32] <Nogaso> probably
[17:32] <kobbay> IcedTea Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b21)
[17:32] <kobbay> IcedTea Server VM (build 1.7.0-b21, mixed mode)
[17:32] <kobbay> java version "1.7.0"
[17:32] <Nogaso> ok, try to install sun java instead
[17:34] <kobbay> ok > sun-java6-jdk
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[17:35] <Nogaso> that one, yes
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[17:59] <kobbay> ok, i did that and the log in now smaller ! Error: A JNI error has occurred
[18:00] <kobbay> is ok now
[18:00] <kobbay> but i still have : JVM exited while loading the application.
[18:00] <kobbay> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter
[18:03] <Nogaso> not sure how to fix that one, sorry
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[18:28] <kobbay> ok
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[18:50] <kobbay> i don't find update.sh
[18:50] <kobbay> where i get this file ?
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[18:51] <kobbay> don't find it in freenet directory
[18:53] <Cooo> strange. It should be in your Freenet directory
[18:59] <kobbay> i used wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/freenet07.tar.gz
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