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[0:28] <toad_> there's some fascinating discussions going on on the devl list w.r.t. mixing
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[1:09] <Zorix> hey toad_, want to reconenct to my node again?
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[1:18] <Ayow> hi im lokkin for some nodes for freenet
[1:18] <Ayow> can smbd help me plz?
[1:20] <Ayow> ... :(:(
[1:20] <NEOatNHNG> Ayow, http://wiki.freenetproject.org/OpenNet
[1:20] <Ayow> ill take a look
[1:20] <Ayow> thx NEOatNHNG
[1:21] <NEOatNHNG> you're welcom
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[1:21] <NEOatNHNG> e
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[5:02] <saewhat> hello
[5:02] <saewhat> can anybody help with me starting my node?
[5:03] <saewhat> i keep getting a system error 5
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[9:19] <Jay> hello there
[9:20] <TheSeeker> hi here
[9:21] <Jay> i'm trying get 10 "friends" nodes
[9:21] <Jay> i had this be4, but i can't remember how to get new "friends"
[9:23] <TheSeeker> Usually you meet at social events or places of recreation that tailors to a particular interest, and communication is established with those that have similar ideas and outlooks. those bonds are strengthened over time and develop a level of trust, potentially to the level where you might be comfortable with them having your freenet reference.
[9:24] <Jay> i forgot how to put my "node" in here
[9:24] <TheSeeker> in all seriousness though, collecting 10 random references for darknet does nothing good for the topology of frenet, and is only very marginally more secure than just enabling opennet.
[9:25] <Jay> nvm, i found out how
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[9:25] <Jay> dang it
[9:25] <TheSeeker> pasting references in here will likely get you kicked, or banned :P
[9:26] <Jay> yea, i see that
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[10:08] <Ano36> Any refs out there? http://dark-code.bulix.org/fntm8h-48057?raw
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[13:09] <toad_> rehi
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[13:17] <toad_> hi Zothar_Work
[13:20] <Zothar_Work> howdy
[13:27] <pheenode> toad_: the update mechanism started working when I installed the wrapper on my nodes
[13:27] <pheenode> now I actually seem to have them updating like they should
[13:32] <toad_> pheenode: cool
[13:34] <nextgens> hi
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[14:00] <pheenode> toad_: the problem was really that there isn't any mention of the wrapper
[14:00] <pheenode> in the install guide
[14:01] <toad_> pheenode: which one?
[14:01] <pheenode> in fact I didn't know about the wrapper until I updated to 1091 or 1092 which alerted that I was running without wrapper
[14:01] <pheenode> and updates wouldn't work
[14:01] <pheenode> http://freenetproject.org/install.html
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[15:14] <Albaj> Darknet http://dark-code.bulix.org/bst0ui-64955?raw
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[16:19] <sua> Hi
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[18:28] <Cooo> is this error anything to care about? http://dark-code.bulix.org/568gky-64957?raw
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[20:25] <Cooo> Pretty silent in the channel today!
[20:26] <erado> anyone want to share?
[20:26] <Cooo> erado: You mean refs?
[20:26] <erado> yeah
[20:27] <Cooo> erado: You should use opennet now that it is implemented
[20:27] <erado> oh
[20:27] <erado> thx
[20:27] <Cooo> NP.
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[20:29] <Tommy[D]> Cooo, if you did not get an answer till now: nothing to care about, only inserting will need more cpu because of the missing native FEC for x86_64
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[20:47] <Cooo> Tommy[D]: Thanx alot fot your answer.
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[20:52] <Cooo> Tommy[D]: CPU power probably won't be a problem since I just started up (a few hours ago) my new quad6600 CPU. Anyways, what kind of trouble would it be to code the native FEC for x86_64? anyone knows? I am always interested in saving CPU cycles :)
[20:53] <Cooo> Too bad that toad just left :(
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[21:02] <Allebert> Anyone here to exchange refs?
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[21:05] <Tommy[D]> Cooo, nextgens did some work on it some time ago but gave up at some point, i think, there is some code in svn for x86_64
[21:09] <Cooo> Tommy[D]: Ahhh. gonna look in to it further tomorrow. Thanx
[21:12] <Cooo> nextgens: You here? If you have the time, please read backlog and inform me were we are standing in this issue.
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[22:05] <Cooo> hi toad_
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[22:07] <toad_> brb
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[22:11] <toad_> rehi
[22:11] <Cooo> rehi toad_
[22:13] <toad_> hi Cooo
[22:13] <Cooo> toad_: got my new comp up and running :)
[22:14] <Cooo> Q6600 with 4G ram
[22:14] <toad_> cool
[22:14] <toad_> intel or amd?
[22:14] <FuriousRage> q6600 is intel
[22:14] <Cooo> Q6600 is intel
[22:15] <Cooo> doooh
[22:15] <toad_> ahhh
[22:15] <toad_> cool
[22:15] <Cooo> toad_: as you might remember we talked about it ~1 week ago
[22:15] <toad_> yeah
[22:15] <toad_> the Phenom bug looks *bad*
[22:16] <Cooo> It really does.
[22:16] <toad_> the workaround is to disable the TLB ... ouch!
[22:16] <Cooo> TLB?
[22:16] <toad_> on server apps that could be *really* costly
[22:16] <toad_> translation lookaside buffer. a cache used by the MMU.
[22:18] <Cooo> MMU? damn.. I am not updated in these issues. Please consider that I was running an xp1600 CPU.
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[22:18] <toad_> ahh, they're working on a microcode udate to really fix it
[22:19] <toad_> which will be usable on old phenoms
[22:19] <Cooo> never managed to kill the xp1600+ cpu even though I had motherboards with voltage controls :(
[22:20] <toad_> :)
[22:21] <Cooo> My next goal has to be to kill the q6600 CPU..
[22:21] <toad_> MMU = memory management unit. involved in swapping, memory mapping, and generally essential on any modern OS.
[22:21] <Cooo> ahhhh
[22:21] <toad_> memory protection too
[22:21] <Cooo> ohh
[22:22] <toad_> no TLB = ~ 3 dependant memory reads on every access to a new page
[22:22] <toad_> it's baaaaaaad
[22:23] <Cooo> no overclocking has been done yet. getting to that tomorrow, I need to know where the limit goes when running stock cooling. After that my water cooling case will have to go to work again :)
[22:23] <Cooo> Ouuch :(
[22:25] <Cooo> to bad that I probably wont be able to kill the CPU if I go back to my water cooling. It's effective :)
[22:25] <toad_> they really should recall them, but arguably the hassle of recalling a *CPU* would be a MAJOR issue - you don't want a million people pulling their CPU's, a lot of them will break them
[22:26] <toad_> or even 100k people
[22:26] <Cooo> it's not like recalling a car, drive it to the workshop, wait a few days and get it back.
[22:27] <sur5r> don't those cpus have this funny socket that only works for 3 oder 4 insertions?
[22:27] <toad_> exactly - you can recall a whole computer, but not a cpu
[22:28] <Cooo> hopefully AMD will get a grip on this and catch up to intel. The competition is needed.
[22:28] <toad_> of course they will
[22:28] <toad_> they're not going bust any time soon
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[22:30] <Cooo> Nope. And I really like AMD. I have a person/feeling inside me that tells me not to buy intel.
[22:30] <toad_> Cooo: #freenet-chat
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[23:41] <toad_> hmmm
[23:41] <toad_> how soon can i make this build mandatory?
[23:42] <toad_> i suppose it's generally not THAT urgent, lets call it monday
[23:42] <toad_> i'll make sure i check in on monday to see that it's not busted everything...
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