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[0:13] <TheSeeker> wait... does the jar get rebuilt if the website changes?
[0:14] <TheSeeker> oh, duh, nevermind.
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[5:24] <Cooo> Topic really should be changed. #1091 is mandatory this monday.
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[12:26] <nextgens> hi
[12:33] <toad_> rehi
[12:33] <nextgens> hey toad!
[12:33] * nextgens has some questions for you
[12:33] <nextgens> I might have spotted a few bugs
[12:34] <toad_> oooooh
[12:34] <nextgens> the first one will be "is the new download page working for you" ?
[12:35] <nextgens> as in, does it detect that your browser doesn't have JWS ?
[12:35] <toad_> ewwww my node's lost its CSS
[12:36] <toad_> hmmm possibly due to database problems
[12:36] <nextgens> in FCPClient; line 104 ...
[12:36] <nextgens> dropped is *never* null
[12:36] <toad_> 1sec
[12:36] <nextgens> and we check for it to do dropped.dropped()
[12:36] <nextgens> *always* null I should have said
[12:37] <toad_> okay, the download page
[12:37] <toad_> it shows me the "Unix, and Linux" bit
[12:37] <nextgens> ok, fine
[12:37] <nextgens> so autodetection worked :)
[12:37] <toad_> which should really be "Linux and other Unixes"
[12:38] <nextgens> hmm
[12:38] <toad_> I will try it out on a windows PC later
[12:38] <nextgens> well Linux isn't a Unix :)
[12:38] <toad_> Linux and other Unix-like systems?
[12:38] <nextgens> okay, that would do it :)
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[12:39] <toad_> so what happens if i don't have it on windows? it gives me an EXE installer that includes a JVM?
[12:40] <nextgens> yep
[12:40] <nextgens> that's what should happen at least
[12:40] <toad_> can't we bundle the full new EXE with the old launcher and tell it to install a JVM and then launch the new launcher?
[12:41] <nextgens> my other bug: in ClientGet around line 407; wtf are we doing there ?
[12:41] <nextgens> we create a FileOutputStrem, don't use it ...
[12:41] <toad_> aieeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:41] <nextgens> And we pass the finalFilename to the bucket thingy
[12:41] <toad_> my node lost all peers, config, node name, ...
[12:41] <nextgens> whereas we've just renamed the temp file to the final one
[12:42] <toad_> okay, first bug ...we never call dropped() hmmm
[12:43] <toad_> okay well we don't need to call it
[12:43] <toad_> we'd only need to call it if we hit an arbitrary limit and dropped it off the end
[12:43] <toad_> so the correct fix is to delete that code
[12:43] <toad_> second bug
[12:43] <nextgens> last bug, well, you'll see it when you review svn commits (I've put a comment but taken no action)
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[12:45] <toad_> L407 - returnBucket *was* pointing to tempFile, now it's pointing to targetFile
[12:48] <toad_> there is something very odd going on when we're out of disk space
[12:49] * nextgens will try to reproduce the "out of space bug"
[12:49] <toad_> somehow we write successfully and yet get an empty file
[12:49] <toad_> and then we delete the original in order to move the empty file over it
[12:49] <nextgens> that's easy, create a filesystem in a file, mount it on "loopback"
[12:49] <toad_> one option would be to enable the delete-the-original logic only if File.separator == "\\"
[12:49] <nextgens> and then start a node up on it
[12:49] <toad_> but what if we run out of space on windows?
[12:51] <nextgens> maybe we don't check the result of the write itself
[12:51] <toad_> write() is void
[12:51] <toad_> it would throw
[12:51] <nextgens> maybe we catch it then
[12:51] <toad_> unless it threw in close() and we caught it in finally {} - but we don't, we do bw.close() before we enter the finally { } block
[12:53] <nextgens> toad_> still, what should I do in ClientGet ?
[12:53] <toad_> and according to the jdk source, BufferedWriter.close() flush()es and then close()es the parent stream
[12:53] <nextgens> do we need that file output stream ?
[12:53] <toad_> flushes the buffer then closes the parent
[12:54] <toad_> no, it's a relic from when we actually wrote it with an FOS
[12:54] <toad_> delete the FOS and the code using it
[12:54] <nextgens> okay
[12:54] <nextgens> and maybe pass the temp filename and then rename it ?
[12:55] <toad_> hmmm?
[12:55] <toad_> we do still need to change the returnBucket in case we want to access it from within the node e.g. on the queue page
[12:55] <nextgens> pass tempFile to the FileBucket and do the renaming afterwards ?
[12:56] <toad_> no, that won't work
[12:56] <toad_> FileBucket has a File
[12:56] <toad_> File is a filename
[12:56] <toad_> not a filehandle
[12:56] <nextgens> okay
[12:56] <nextgens> what's the correct fix then ?
[12:57] <nextgens> handle the symlink-overwrite protection in FileBucket ?
[12:57] <toad_> hmmm, this is interesting...
[12:58] <toad_> BufferedOutputStream uses FilterOutputStream's close()
[12:58] <toad_> which calls flush() - but IGNORES ITS RESULT
[12:58] <toad_> catches and ignores the exception thrown
[12:58] <toad_> and then closes the parent stream
[12:58] <toad_> hence in full disk, no exception will be thrown
[12:58] <toad_> and we'll think it's succeeded :(
[12:59] <toad_> so we delete the original
[12:59] * toad_ supposes he should file a bug for that ...
[12:59] <toad_> nextgens: what is the problem? the file has already been written, we're just reading from it afaics
[13:00] <nextgens> toad_> why do we rename it then ?
[13:00] <toad_> nextgens: ummm so that it has the correct filename
[13:00] <toad_> the API is we write it to the temp filename while we are still writing/constructing in place/whatever
[13:01] <toad_> and when we're done, we move it to the final filename
[13:01] <toad_> when it is called the final filename, it is readable, complete, you don't have to wait for us to fill it
[13:01] <nextgens> okay
[13:01] <toad_> now, this is all assuming the client layer has already written it to tempFile
[13:02] <toad_> but it will have
[13:02] <toad_> because it has code to make sure that happens
[13:02] <toad_> we used to have that code here instead
[13:02] <toad_> hence the fos
[13:05] <nextgens> toad_> filling a bug in is probably the way to go (regarding the jvm problem)
[13:06] <nextgens> a temporary fix for us would be to call and check the result of flush() ourselves
[13:09] <nextgens> toad_> please have a look to r16636 too
[13:10] <toad_> Complete, compilable Java SOURCE CODE that demonstrates the problem. Do not include an entire application; just provide a test case that shows the problem and nothing else. Be as brief as possible.
[13:10] <toad_> hmmm, this is gonna take a minute
[13:11] <toad_> in fact, our writeTo() method probably shouldn't close() them either... hmmm
[13:12] <nextgens> toad_> in AnnounceSender (even though it's none of my business) are you sure that line 133 is wise ?
[13:12] <nextgens> you check if it's null and then call rnf(null)
[13:16] <nextgens> that static code analyser is handy
[13:16] <toad_> i don't understand
[13:16] <toad_> L133 here says if(next == null) { rnf(next); return; }
[13:16] <nextgens> yeah
[13:16] <toad_> why is this a problem?
[13:17] <nextgens> is rnf(null) handled as it should ?
[13:18] <nextgens> you call cb.nodeFailed(null, ...)
[13:19] <toad_> hmmm lets see
[13:19] <toad_> it should be
[13:20] <nextgens> in Announcer 509 it will npe logging it
[13:20] <nextgens> Logger.error(this, "Announcement to node "+pn.userToString()+" failed: "+reason);
[13:21] <nextgens> but I'm sure it's not the only place it will ^-^
[13:22] <toad_> okay, with those fixes i think we need 1092 :)
[13:22] <nextgens> review r16636 first please :)
[13:22] <toad_> however you said there was some other code needed urgent review?
[13:22] <nextgens> yeah
[13:22] <toad_> okay
[13:23] <toad_> i'm not gonna review everything right now though
[13:23] <nextgens> :)
[13:23] <nextgens> you probably should before you release though...
[13:23] * nextgens suggests you hold on releasing then
[13:23] <toad_> hmmmm
[13:24] <toad_> well i wanna go xmas shopping :)
[13:24] <toad_> can't you handle it?
[13:24] <nextgens> just before you leave :
[13:24] <nextgens> regarding r16656
[13:24] <nextgens> I'm not sure that "renaming without closing the fd" is handled on windows
[13:24] <nextgens> iirc that's why I did close fds there
[13:24] <toad_> it looks ok to me ... we create the SSI then retry it ... does it delete any resources before calling onFailed() ?
[13:25] <toad_> i think we do similar things elsewhere...
[13:25] <toad_> yeah, that's fine
[13:25] <toad_> now writeTo() flushes and closes
[13:25] <toad_> so you don't need to
[13:25] <nextgens> ok
[13:25] <toad_> the problem was that we need to call flush() explicitly to get the error
[13:25] <toad_> if disk is full
[13:25] <nextgens> understood
[13:26] <toad_> re 16636, i dunno
[13:26] <toad_> maybe you'd like to test it
[13:26] <toad_> i don't see it as a priority
[13:27] <toad_> okay, we use SSI.schedule() to re-try an insert elsewhere - in NodeClientCore.queueRandomReinsert
[13:27] <toad_> so it's probably okay
[13:27] <toad_> oh
[13:27] <toad_> yeah it is okay
[13:27] <toad_> we have an array of MySendableInsert's
[13:27] <toad_> just because one fails we don't want to retry all of them!
[13:27] <toad_> so delete/update the comment
[13:27] <toad_> anything urgent else?
[13:28] <nextgens> nope
[13:28] <toad_> ok, cya
[13:29] <nextgens> may testers update to trunk and see if they are any obvious bugs before we release ?
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[14:19] <pheenode> toad_: slight issue
[14:19] <pheenode> when your node upgrades to a new version
[14:20] <pheenode> it'll reject my node
[14:20] <pheenode> and my node then won't upgrade
[14:31] <pheenode> of course, not unless I run upgrade.sh then
[14:31] <pheenode> and then I need to do that to all my nodes
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[16:30] <dsl_> hi all
[16:31] <dsl_> i install now freenet from java installer
[16:31] <dsl_> but when i open my browser on 8888 port i cant see freenet
[16:31] <dsl_> do i run somethink?
[16:32] <FuriousRage> PhilKC you there?
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[17:00] <Aldof666a2> what does node location value mean? average of all locations in node's data store?
[17:05] <sbc> Why can't I find my nodes open-net ref under /strangers/ ?
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[17:09] <nextgens> sbc> because they are under /friends/ ?
[17:09] <nextgens> Aldof666a2> no, it's used for routing purposes
[17:09] <sbc> nextgens: Is there not supposed to two? One for friends and one for strangers?
[17:10] <sbc> to *be* two?
[17:11] <nextgens> they are two refs
[17:11] <Ratchet> the opennet ref appears under "strangers"
[17:11] * nextgens doesn't get what you guys are talking about
[17:12] <nextgens> which version of the node are we talking about here ?
[17:12] <Ratchet> i tested opnnent with current 1091. i got a second ref for opennet which appeared on the bottom of the "strangers" page
[17:13] <Ratchet> the darknet ref is under the "friends" list
[17:14] <nextgens> okay
[17:14] <NEOatNHNG> that's how it used to be since opennet was introduced
[17:15] <sbc> That is excatly my problem. I can't find my open-net ref. It's not on the strangers page (or anywhere else for that matter).
[17:15] <nextgens> and what does the strangers page show ?
[17:15] <Ratchet> that's strange :-)
[17:16] <nextgens> did you enable the advanced mode ?
[17:16] <nextgens> why do you need to know your opennet ref now that toad has implemented announcement ?
[17:16] * nextgens still don't get it
[17:16] <NEOatNHNG> sbc, do you get it if you give it that url?: http://127.0.0.1:8888/strangers/myref.txt
[17:17] <sbc> NEOatNHNG: That get's it, yes.
[17:17] <sbc> I want to find it since my node is not connecting to any nodes by it self... it worked yesterday
[17:17] <NEOatNHNG> mhh and you're shure it isn't there?
[17:18] <nextgens> it's not displayed anymore unless you're in advanced mode I think
[17:18] <nextgens> and that's on purpose
[17:18] <NEOatNHNG> sbc, which version do you have?
[17:19] <sbc> Freenet 0.7 Build #1091 r16593
[17:19] <sbc> Freenet-ext Build #17 r14866
[17:19] <sbc> yes, I'm sure. You want a screen shot? :)
[17:19] <Zothar_Work> nextgens: yes, no opennet ref displayed except with advanced mode
[17:19] <sbc> nextgens: ok, that answers my question. thanks.
[17:19] <NEOatNHNG> nextgens, you're right
[17:19] <sbc> no problem then. Sorry for all the questions then.
[17:20] <nextgens> still, it doesn't explain why your node isn't using announcement to get more peers
[17:20] <nextgens> sbc> do you have the seednode.fref file ?
[17:21] <nextgens> is it in freenet's root folder ?
[17:21] <sbc> nextgens: yes.
[17:21] <nextgens> did you try restarting the node ?
[17:21] <nextgens> is there any obvious problems shown in the logfiles ?
[17:21] <sbc> nextgens: Proberly my firewall. It does give quite a lot of trouble from time to time :(
[17:30] <sbc> I get some of these in /logs/freenet-latest.log:
[17:30] <sbc> Dec 17, 2007 17:29:59:180 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler, PacketSender thread for 1468, NORMAL): Error while sending packet to IPv6 address: 2001:5c0:93d2:0:0:0:0:1%2:57696: java.io.IOException: Network is unreachable
[17:30] <sbc> java.io.IOException: Network is unreachable
[17:30] <sbc> could that be a problem?
[17:31] <nextgens> no, it's logged at loglevel=normal
[17:31] <sbc> I don't have any ip 6 adress.
[17:31] <sbc> ok.
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[18:08] <grumbel> What is a shared file in frost or does it differ from a normal upload?
[18:09] <grumbel> to answer myself: looks like it uploads shared files on demand instead of instantly
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[22:56] <toad_> nextgens: you should release if there are no major issues
[22:56] <toad_> bbiab
[23:17] <nextgens> rehi
[23:18] <nextgens> toad_> well I'm not releasing because of the issue raised on @devl
[23:19] <nextgens> toad_> you wrote the code; any thought about what should be done there ?
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[23:30] <FooFilter> hello
[23:31] <nextgens> hey!
[23:31] <FooFilter> I have some questions
[23:31] * nextgens is about to say he doesn't have any answer
[23:31] <FooFilter> I used to run fred onmy Laptop, but it's quite boring cause it makes it swapping.
[23:32] <FooFilter> So i wondered if there xas a possibility to run the server on a dedicated web server
[23:32] <FooFilter> in my local network
[23:32] <FooFilter> and access freenet from it
[23:33] <FooFilter> ?
[23:34] <nextgens> of course that's possible
[23:35] <FooFilter> cool
[23:36] <FooFilter> but... is it possible to access to freenet config remotly (ie that the server don't have a screen, nor a keyboard)
[23:43] <nextgens> yes, using the web interface just like you do it locally
[23:45] <nextgens> FooFilter> you might want to visit #freenet-fr too
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