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[0:10] <toad_> good night
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[0:33] <briantumor> hi
[0:33] <briantumor> i'm having wrapper issues... http://rafb.net/p/rRUwki81.txt
[0:41] <briantumor> does jre-1.6 run ok for freenet?
[0:43] <briantumor> who wrote the download instructions? what's the use for this.. cat freenet07.tar.gz | gzip -d | tar xv ?
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[0:44] <briantumor> why use pipes when you can just do tar xvfz <file>.tar.gz
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[0:47] <Zothar> briantumor: the instructions are intended to be more cross-platform than just GNU tar
[0:47] <briantumor> oh kk
[0:47] <briantumor> anyway.. my original question
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[0:47] <briantumor> should java -jar new_installer.jar be run as root?
[0:48] <Zothar> looks like permission problems
[0:48] <Zothar> it should not be run as root AFAIK
[0:48] <briantumor> oh
[0:48] <Zothar> (but then a lot has changed since I last ran the installer)
[0:48] <briantumor> what if i wanted it to run at startup?
[0:49] <Zothar> check the wiki for that topic; I don't believe run.sh (which is used to start the node after install) wants to run as root, so you'll probably need something else to act as your rc.d/init.d script
[0:49] <briantumor> oh ok
[0:49] <Zothar> then there's the environment specific details of getting it in the right runlevel, etc.
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[0:50] <briantumor> hmm
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[0:52] <briantumor> ok, thanks
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[0:59] <briantumor> wait... so there's a non-GNU tar?
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[1:04] <presha> does anyone know any sites to et the latest tv shows from or the best way to get them on freenet cheers
[1:11] <Zothar> briantumor: on AIX, FreeBSD or Mac OS X, for example, yes
[1:12] <briantumor> hrm..
[1:12] <briantumor> they should get with the program
[1:13] <briantumor> heh... freetube
[1:13] <briantumor> good luck with that :P
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[5:28] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all! One of our sponsors experienced a rather large ddos attack just now, which in turn caused disturbance on the network. As a result that leaf server is not accepting client connections atm. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day.
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[8:39] <Killabee> hello :) got another question ;)
[8:40] <Killabee> the wrapperlog says
[8:40] <Killabee> reconstructing access time index
[8:40] <Killabee> and the services is still marked as started..
[8:40] <Killabee> is this good?
[8:40] <Killabee> starting* i mean
[8:42] <Killabee> currently i have a datacache of 19GB
[8:43] <Killabee> dec 07, 2007 08:29:17:979 (freenet.store.BerkeleyDBFreenetStore, WrapperListener_start_runner, ERROR): Reconstructing access times index...
[8:47] <Killabee> the error started when freenet java crashed due lack of freespace
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[9:04] <Killabee> fixt it i think but have to delete my old cache of 20GB
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[10:13] <makomk> Yeah, it might be a good idea for someone to figure out a way of speeding up datastore recovery...
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[10:18] <FREE> I need a node
[10:19] <FREE> Alguien puede decirme un nodo
[10:19] <FREE> ???
[10:20] <FREE> Nadie puede decirme un nodo?
[10:20] <FREE> alguen habla español
[10:20] <FREE> ?
[10:22] <Ratchet> FREE: read the topic :-)
[10:22] <Ratchet> (join #freenet-refs)
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[12:18] <Jafet> What is a backing off?
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[12:23] <toad_> Jafet: means the node is busy
[12:23] <toad_> we sent a request and it couldn't handle it right now so it rejected it
[12:28] <toad_> anyone here behind a firewall without the ability to port forward?
[12:28] <toad_> what does your Connectivity page say?
[12:35] <Jafet> I'm behind a router and I don't forward it because the firmware sucks...
[12:36] <Jafet> Does that count?
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[12:44] <toad_> Jafet: does UPnP successfully forward the port?
[12:44] <toad_> Jafet: what does your Connectivity page say?
[12:46] <toad_> just the top two lines
[12:46] <toad_> e.g. mine says:
[12:46] <toad_> UdpSocketHandler packet receiver thread for Darknet port 24374 Maybe port forwarded
[12:46] <toad_> UdpSocketHandler packet receiver thread for Opennet port 37024 Port forwarded
[12:46] <toad_> what does yours say?
[12:46] <Jafet> Both ports Status Unknown.
[12:46] <toad_> hmmmmmmm
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[12:48] <toad_> not "Behind NAT" ? :|
[12:49] <Jafet> Nada.
[13:01] <Jafet> Hmm, I forward the port and I still get Status Unknown.
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[13:16] <toad_> Jafet: it'll take a while for it to realise
[13:19] <Jafet> Hmm.
[13:19] <Jafet> Hours?
[13:19] <toad_> yeah
[13:19] <toad_> could be more
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[13:19] <toad_> it's quite conservative and it depends on incoming connections
[13:20] <toad_> so it may never detect it on darknet if all your conns are 24x7
[13:20] <toad_> it should detect it in a few hours, and definitely in 12 hours to a few days, on opennet
[13:29] <Jafet> Emu?
[13:29] <Jafet> You people need to publish a lexicon or something.
[13:29] <Killabee> heeh toad_ my freenet crashed last night :)
[13:29] <Killabee> because of disk space
[13:29] <Killabee> i had to delete my datastore :(
[13:30] <Killabee> caus its was giving errors proberly faulty data in it
[13:30] <Killabee> is that correctly?
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[13:36] <toad_> Killabee: did it fill up the disk?
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[13:45] <Killabee> no toad_
[13:45] <Killabee> i have a program wicht wipes @ 02.00 pm all free diskspace
[13:45] <Killabee> but if its started to wipe he marked the freediskspace temporarly as full
[13:46] <Killabee> so java gave the error
[13:46] <Killabee> not enough diskspace
[13:46] <Killabee> and it shutted down
[13:47] <Killabee> but de datastore file was apperently not closed in the good way
[13:47] <Killabee> so my question is , it fixable?
[13:47] <Killabee> otherwise no prob i will start over with a new datastore
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[13:55] <Jafet> Freenet is not susceptible to netsplits!
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[14:24] <pheenode> oh really now?
[14:25] <pheenode> because that's exactly what happens when some nodes start upgrading to a new version that doesn't let any of their peers connect
[14:27] <dbkr> yes, but there will be loads of other links between all the nodes
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[14:48] <Jafet> Is there some convenient way to limit the CPU load?
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[15:20] <Tommy[D]> Jafet, Windows/Linux?
[15:20] <Zothar_Work> Jafet: limit threads is a bad hack, but it helps
[15:21] <Jafet> Zothar_Work, found out a few minutes ago.
[15:21] <Jafet> Tommy[D], the world's favorite crappy operating system, I'm afraid.
[15:22] <Tommy[D]> Jafet, Windows Vista?
[15:23] <Jafet> XP.
[15:23] <Tommy[D]> so, it may be favorite, but not the most user limiting ;-)
[15:24] <Jafet> Anything with "Ultimate" in its name is guaranteed to not be worth the box it ships in.
[15:51] <freenetjunkie> where do i find my ref url?
[15:53] <Tommy[D]> which one? the one for your friends or the one for strangers?
[15:53] <Jafet> On FProxy, in the Friends and Strangers pages, scroll down.
[15:54] <Jafet> The one on your Friends pags is your darknet and the other is your opennet ref.
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[17:08] * toad_ ponders going to a climate change demo tomorrow ... pro: looks feasible, and more or less affordable (cheap if i get the coach but i dunno if they'll have spaces and i hate long bus journeys.. and train is greener anyway :) ) ... con: tomorrow 1089 will be mandatory, so i can make some significant progress with opennet hopefully
[17:09] <toad_> context: very few trains have wifi :(
[17:09] <toad_> although some have power
[17:10] <toad_> so on a macro level ... freedom of speech versus the end of the world...
[17:11] <toad_> but it's a question of impact - one more head vs one more day, both are marginal value
[17:16] <TheSeeker> Never use apathy as a reason to avoid doing something good. (says the hypocrit)
[17:20] <toad_> :)
[17:20] * toad_ will stay here
[17:21] <toad_> freenet is actually quite interesting lately, 1089 will be mandatory, we might very well eradicate #freenet-refs tomorrow if we're lucky
[17:22] <toad_> not that it's not always "quite interesting", but time now is particularly useful
[17:24] <Tommy[D]> o_O
[17:25] <Tommy[D]> everything needed is in 1089, added a seednode.fref and it should work?
[17:25] <toad_> basically yeah but we need to test it to see if we've fixed the bug in 1088 that caused announcements to never end
[17:25] <toad_> and to see whether the bugfix has caused worse problems
[17:26] <toad_> does anyone here have problems connecting to darknet peers?
[17:26] <Tommy[D]> with trunk or 1089?
[17:26] <toad_> with either
[17:27] <toad_> Tommy[D]: well?
[17:27] <toad_> :|
[17:27] <Tommy[D]> hm, my trunk node just died because of too high load, but had no problems reported as far as i know
[17:28] <Tommy[D]> a stable node has many backed off peers, but nothing unusual disconnected nodes
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[17:49] <Tommy[D]> toad_, you gave me 33 seconds to answer? patience isnt an easy task for you, is it? :)
[17:54] * toad_ has a detailed report on Frost re bandwidth issues, I'm downloading logfiles now
[17:54] <toad_> meantime brb for some food
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[19:04] <mYone> Is there a reasonable maximum for simultanous downloads/inserts ? Is 10 parallel inserts worse than 5? or better?
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[19:21] <toad_> depends on their sizes
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[19:22] <zphinx> Is freent without the need for ref-trading availible from anywhere else then cvs now?
[19:24] <toad_> not quite yet
[19:24] <toad_> however you only need a few refs atm to get started
[19:24] <zphinx> It's still somewhat of a pain :/
[19:24] <toad_> you can test the new mechanisms, but you should wait for tomorrow for the announcement fixes
[19:26] <toad_> bbiab
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[20:01] <MichaW> Hallo zusammen, kann mir jemat mit freenet weiterhelfen? Ich versuche hier meine ersten Schritte und verstehe nicht allzu viel!
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[20:14] <MichaW> !freenethelp
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[20:23] <saces> hi, all.
[20:28] <toad_> hi
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[22:34] <T3jem> Anyone want to exchange node references?
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[22:36] <Jflesch> T3jem: -> #freenet-refs
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[22:36] <T3jem> :( sorry, there's just no info on the site, thank you
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[22:36] <bipdan> Some one for a ref ?
[22:37] <T3jem> Go to #freenet-refs and we can sure
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[22:37] <bipdan> http://dark-code.bulix.org/u93vwa-63941?raw
[22:38] <T3jem> http://dark-code.bulix.org/zsw0i6-64056?raw
[22:38] <mYone> bipdan: please go to #freenet-refs for this
[22:39] <bipdan> added T3jem, ok i'll go to reenet-refs, sorry
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