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[0:00] <diip> neoatnhng, what should i do if my bot ask for a opennet ref and i'm on darknet?
[0:00] <toad_> NEOatNHNG: anyway take it to the mailing list, i'm trying to think about something else
[0:00] <dbkr> diip: have you tried just giving it nothing?
[0:00] <diip> dbkr, that doesn't work
[0:00] <dbkr> when you say, "doesn't work"...
[0:01] <NEOatNHNG> diip it doesn't make sense to trade darknet refs via refbot
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[0:01] <dbkr> that's not very helpful
[0:01] <NEOatNHNG> so it's not integrated into the "setup" of refbot
[0:02] <diip> dbkr, it won't accept nothing
[0:02] <NEOatNHNG> but if you have a proper config-file it will do it anyway
[0:02] <dbkr> diip: that's still not very helpful, but NEOatNHNG has your answer.
[0:02] <diip> neoatnhng, i'm confused
[0:02] <diip> if i'm in "promiscuous" mode is that darknet or opennet?
[0:03] <NEOatNHNG> refbot was able to trade darknet refs a short time ago
[0:03] <NEOatNHNG> opennet
[0:03] <diip> so why is my ref listed as darknet?
[0:03] <diip> cause it's on bulix?
[0:03] <dbkr> diip: you still have a darknet ref
[0:03] <NEOatNHNG> so when opennet was introduced the script just didn't ask for the darknet ref
[0:03] <dbkr> you just have an opennet one too
[0:04] <diip> dbkr how do i find my opennet ref?
[0:04] <NEOatNHNG> no you have to go to the strangers-page and get your opennet-ref from there
[0:04] <dbkr> diip: on the strangers tab, I think
[0:05] <NEOatNHNG> the one on the friends page is your darknet-ref
[0:05] <diip> ok thanks
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[0:26] <Cooo> Hi.
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[0:27] <Cooo> Tried to run r16294 and got an NPE in wrapper.log http://dark-code.bulix.org/ym57hm-63707?raw
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[0:38] <nextgens> Cooo> that's opennet-related, will tell toad tomorrow but won't fix it :)
[0:38] <nextgens> bbl
[0:38] <Cooo> nextgens: Ahhh. good to know.
[0:39] <nextgens> Cooo> get 2-3 revisions before that
[0:39] <nextgens> the bug has been introduced in the latest 3
[0:39] <nextgens> anyway, bbl
[0:39] <Cooo> nextgens: Running latest stable now
[0:39] <nextgens> well, if you could test trunk-3 that would be great
[0:40] <nextgens> r16293 is safe
[0:40] <nextgens> get that one
[0:40] <Cooo> nextgens: will do.
[0:40] <nextgens> and see whether you see any ERRORs in logs
[0:40] <Cooo> Yep
[0:40] <nextgens> stuffs about JFK, hmacs and exponentials
[0:41] <Cooo> Yep. will have a look in the logs for those kind of stuff
[0:47] <Cooo> nextgens: got the same NPE as above with r16293 http://dark-code.bulix.org/ym57hm-63707?raw
[0:47] <mYone> wohoooo, hey Cooo everything coool? :P hahahaah :D
[0:48] <Cooo> Goes back to latest stable during the night, needs some hours of sleep.
[0:48] <Cooo> mYone: Everything is coool. Tired though
[0:48] <mYone> :D
[0:49] <mYone> where are ya from? here its only 1:41 am ... not that late :P
[0:49] <Cooo> same time as here :P
[0:50] <mYone> so obviously: stop complaining :P or get some rest ;)
[0:51] * mYone is sorry about his behaviour... jsut in some talkative mood right now ;)
[0:51] <Cooo> :)
[0:51] <Cooo> NP
[0:51] <Cooo> I'll think I go and get me some rest. See ya tomorrow mYone.
[0:51] <mYone> cya ;)
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[0:57] <mYone> sorry nextgens , now i drove away your bug-reporter :/
[0:57] <mYone> :P
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[9:05] <Cooo> Morning
[9:20] <Cooo> nextgens: The NPE is gone :)
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[10:16] <Cooo> hmmm. /me wonders what has happened to CIA in #freenet-chat, he/she is silent :(
[10:17] <Ratchet> there is a #freenet-chat? :-)
[10:17] <Cooo> Ratchet: Yep
[10:21] <Cooo> Just got 2 hmac errors. http://dark-code.bulix.org/89gybd-63746?raw
[10:22] <Cooo> running with r16297
[10:22] <nextgens> well, until your peers have updated it might be normal
[10:22] <nextgens> but generally speaking you should see less of them
[10:23] <nextgens> Cooo> is that for jfk3 or jfk4 ?
[10:24] <Cooo> nextgens: jfk3 or 4? dunno? should that be in logs?
[10:24] <nextgens> yeah, a few lines before the message
[10:24] <nextgens> you should see something like "processing jfk(X) message"
[10:25] <nextgens> if it's jfk4 it might be normal
[10:25] <nextgens> if it's jfk3 it's not
[10:25] <nextgens> assuming you're running trunk of course
[10:26] <Cooo> nothing in logs about jfk
[10:26] <Cooo> not running latest trunk but nearly. r16297
[10:27] <nextgens> Got a JFK(3) message, processing it -
[10:27] <nextgens> that's the log message if you're at loglevel = minor
[10:27] <nextgens> otherwise get r16304, the logged message is more explicit
[10:28] <Cooo> oo. I am at loglevel error
[10:29] <Cooo> Updating to r16304
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[12:09] <Cooo> Morning toad_
[12:14] <toad_> hi Cooo
[12:18] <nextgens> hi
[12:18] <Cooo> hi
[12:18] <nextgens> would anyone object if I break the backward compatibility of echo ?
[12:19] <Cooo> not me. Well I am not using echo :P
[12:19] <nextgens> ie: if the new version is unable to parse old configuration files ?
[12:20] <batosai> nextgens: me neither, I don't think much people use it ATM
[12:20] <Cooo> Gotta go to work now. Gonna let latest trunk run during the day.
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[14:44] <vivee> ah, there was my first opennet 1088 node :-)
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[19:57] <bravoure> hi,
[19:57] <NEOatNHNG> hi
[20:01] <bravoure> thanks for your hi.
[20:01] <NEOatNHNG> you're welcome ;-)
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[20:02] <bravoure> I used to use freenet a long time ago when it was not a problem to get connected to the network, now it is. I don't have any friends you see...
[20:05] <NEOatNHNG> It's safer to have real friends as darknet nodes, but as a temporary solution there's opennet (it's called promiscuous mode sometimes)
[20:06] <NEOatNHNG> so you exchange your opennet ref (to be found on the strangers page) a couple of times (e.g. via #freenet-refs) and the node will do the rest
[20:08] <vesath> if i understood well, you don't need bootstrap refs anymore with the new version of the node
[20:09] <NEOatNHNG> vesath, afaik the new version just keeps requesting something so we get more refs (so you don't have to surf freenet to get more)
[20:10] <NEOatNHNG> the actually seednode function is not working yet but according to toad hopefully it will before xmas
[20:11] <vesath> oh, ok... sorry for the misunderstanding
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[20:45] <NEOatNHNG> nextgens, not that it is critical but the CIA-35 bot apparently doesn't work
[20:45] <nextgens> NEOatNHNG> tell the guy maintaining it, not me :)
[20:46] <NEOatNHNG> nextgens, oh ok thought you were the one, so who does?
[20:47] <nextgens> NEOatNHNG> http://cia.vc/
[20:48] <nextgens> NEOatNHNG> there might be a #cia channel here on freenode
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[22:43] <toad_> actually hopefully i'll have the seednode function working this week
[23:00] <Cooo> hi.
[23:06] <Cooo> toad_: Thats sounds good :)
[23:06] <nextgens> does it ?
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[23:10] <Cooo> nextgens: For those who wants to use opennet it would be good.
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[23:24] <toad_> hmmm it seems to be partially working...
[23:26] <mYone> toad_: is there a roadmap for getting 0.7 from alpha => beta ?
[23:26] <nextgens> mYone> when it's ready ?
[23:27] <mYone> nextgens: yeah, thats what my question was about... a roadmap defines what should be done up to a certain point. i.e. a beta version
[23:51] <toad_> java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot send auth packet: too long: 1685
[23:51] <toad_> ah fsck
[23:51] <toad_> this is because we send the full ref... :|
[23:55] * toad_ removes the limit for now, annoying that it fragments... :|
[23:55] <toad_> also maybe could be used to profile traffic
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[23:56] <toad_> mYone: well, we obviously need opennet
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