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[1:45] <Bato8743> Can someone tell me if this is a good place to bring up bug fixes?
[1:50] <Bato8743> anyone here?
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[2:00] <flohackdotcom> hello
[2:00] <flohackdotcom> can anyone answer a couple quick questions
[2:02] <flohackdotcom> I have 3 friend refs and one opennet ref and I have had freenet running for over a day and it has not connected to any of them at all
[2:03] <flohackdotcom> my router which is running dd-wrt has the correct ports fowarded to the correct comp for UDP
[2:03] <flohackdotcom> but no luck
[2:03] <Bato8743> well I am not a developer, but you might try putting your IP address into your node-ref
[2:04] <flohackdotcom> node-ref?
[2:04] <Bato8743> the node reference you give to other people
[2:04] <flohackdotcom> in config?
[2:04] <Bato8743> yes, there is a "suggest IP address" option
[2:04] <Bato8743> put in the IP address your router has
[2:04] <Bato8743> your public IP address
[2:04] <flohackdotcom> oh
[2:04] <flohackdotcom> where do I put it
[2:05] <Bato8743> heh, I'm not to sure but you should see something like "give a hint for your IP address"
[2:05] <flohackdotcom> # Temporary IP address hintTemporary hint to what our IP might be; deleted after use
[2:05] <flohackdotcom> that?
[2:06] <Bato8743> you might have to get some new peers after you do that
[2:06] <flohackdotcom> or
[2:06] <Bato8743> yes that's it
[2:06] <flohackdotcom> P address overrideIP address override (not usually needed) - set this if you have a *static* IP address or a domain name (e.g. via dyndns), and you are behind a firewall.
[2:06] <flohackdotcom> IP*
[2:06] <Bato8743> I would say don't use the override
[2:06] <flohackdotcom> damn so that means that the 4 refs I exchanged are no good >.<
[2:06] <Bato8743> well they will be recognized
[2:06] <Bato8743> once you get connected to the network I think
[2:07] <flohackdotcom> oh ok
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[2:07] <Bato8743> but right now they don't know how to reach you
[2:07] <flohackdotcom> welp lets give it a try
[2:07] <alystair> why did freenet create a user account on my computer
[2:07] <Bato8743> that I don't know:-)
[2:07] <alystair> and it was still there after I uninstalled
[2:07] <Bato8743> are you using Windows?
[2:07] <alystair> yes
[2:08] <flohackdotcom> windows xp?
[2:08] <Bato8743> well maybe you need a non administrator account?
[2:08] <flohackdotcom> ur probly on a non admin account so U cna't uninstall it
[2:09] <Bato8743> I think he was saying the account was still there after he uninstalled freenet
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[2:27] <flohackdotcom> hes probly just confused and/or dumb
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[8:35] <DOTTS> any one setup on SUSE 10.3, I can not get freenet to function on SUSE, permission issues ??
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[11:49] <toad_> anyone getting "Too many open files" ?
[11:52] <dbkr> toad_: eep, yes
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[15:13] <Gudihl> Seven builds per hour. Keep it up, man. xD
[15:14] <nextgens> May our testers update to current trunk please ?
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[16:05] <Cooo> nextgens: Updating
[16:06] <grawity> hi,
[16:06] <grawity> how can I use both IPv4 and IPv6 with Freenet?
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[16:51] <Cooo> nextgens: Got an NPE with r16088 http://dark-code.bulix.org/ou83a4-63014?raw
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[17:15] <Cooo> nextgens: Visiting "The Ultimate Freenet Index" seems to generate the NPE everytime.
[17:21] <nextgens> Cooo> fixed
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[17:34] <Cooo> nextgens: great. Gonna update.
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[18:04] <Cooo> nextgens: NPE seems to be gone :) There is something else strange going on though, at first I thought it had to do with the NPE but mabye not. Both Bombe;s Flog and "The Ultimate Freenet Index" looks bad :( Something has happened since r16029.
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[18:05] <nextgens> Cooo> anything in log files ?
[18:06] <saces> somethimg is wrong with the styleshit.
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[18:07] <Cooo> nextgens: nothing in logs with log lever : error
[18:07] <saces> this is from TUFI (after froxy) : <link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css?type=text/css" type="text/css" media="screen" />
[18:09] <saces> and this is with type=text/plain: <link rel="stylesheet" media="screen" href="style.css" />
[18:12] <nextgens> Cooo> and it was working previously ?
[18:14] <Cooo> With r16029 it was.. I read backlog and it seems that I had that version.
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[18:26] <Cooo> downgrading to r16046 now. Gonna try to home in on which build caused the problem.
[18:35] <Cooo> r16046 shows pages as they should look.
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[18:42] <nextgens> Cooo> see if it's fixed now :)
[18:43] <Cooo> Will do. Tested r16080 now and in that version it is broken. Just wanted to print it for easy remembering :P
[18:44] * nextgens is introducing more bugs that he fixes :|
[18:44] <Cooo> naah.
[18:44] <nextgens> saces> that's a feature not a bug
[18:46] <Cooo> good thing that we spot and fixes the bugs before release though :) People tend to get upset with bugs in release versions.
[18:48] <Cooo> nextgens : It is fixed now :)
[18:50] <nextgens> Cooo> thanks to your testing efforts there will be less bugs
[18:52] <Cooo> :)
[18:58] <mYone_> df -h
[18:58] <mYone_> hrm :/
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[19:08] <pheenode> how do I debug nodes that aren't making connections to each other?
[19:08] <NEOatNHNG> toad_, is backed off in advanced mode the same as busy in easy mode?
[19:08] <nextgens> NEOatNHNG> yes
[19:08] <pheenode> I have traffic going between them
[19:08] <pheenode> but still both say the other has never connected
[19:08] <pheenode> in the friend list
[19:10] <NEOatNHNG> nextgens, so why do we have two expressions for the same thing?
[19:11] <nextgens> NEOatNHNG> because at some point we decided that we were fed up with explaining what backing off means
[19:11] <Cooo> The /connectivity/ tab/page, is it supposed to be divided in to 2 similar parts? Only difference I can see is the arranging order and that the top part has port numbers, the bottom one doesn't instead it has / at the beginning of the address.
[19:12] <pheenode> how do I switch freenet 0.7 into advanced mode so it shows all the tabs in the index?
[19:13] <toad_> Cooo: four if you have opennet enabled
[19:13] <Cooo> pheenode: config page, enable advanced mode.
[19:13] <pheenode> it jut says Invalid key: java.net.MalformedURLException: There is no @ in that URI! (connectivity/)
[19:14] <pheenode> ah there we go
[19:15] <Cooo> toad_: so two for friends and with opennet enabled it goes up to four.
[19:16] <toad_> anyone here testing trunk?
[19:16] <toad_> does it seem to you that trunk uses more bandwidth than 1075 (while remaining on average below the limit) ?
[19:17] <Cooo> toad_: running r16095 now. me and nextgens has been doing some bug squashing.
[19:19] <pheenode> in the physical line of the noderef
[19:19] <pheenode> I sometimes see two values
[19:19] <pheenode> and sometimes just one
[19:19] <toad_> Nov 29, 2007 19:10:17:792 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, PacketSender thread for 24374, ERROR): Message exceeds packet size: freenet.node.MessageItem@37af5cae size 1606 message FNPSwapComplete {data=Buffer {800}, uid=-885024242024713809}
[19:19] <pheenode> what's the reason for that?
[19:19] <toad_> how can that be 1606 bytes?!
[19:19] <pheenode> the second value that iss
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[19:20] <toad_> oh, because there's a sub-message
[19:20] <toad_> hmmm
[19:20] <pheenode> physical.udp=172.30.5.249:42140;85.97.22.44:42140
[19:21] <pheenode> for example
[19:21] <toad_> for it to get to even 800 bytes the node sending would have to have nearly 100 peers...
[19:22] <toad_> pheenode: odd
[19:22] <toad_> pheenode: two completely different IPs?
[19:22] <toad_> is the 172... address a LAN address?
[19:22] <pheenode> yes
[19:23] <pheenode> ok I figure it sends both the physical address and the address it's seeing on the internet
[19:27] <Cooo> toad_: right now my node is using way to little bandwith :( most of my peers is busy though. Only 72% payload, usually 81%. Guess I have to wait till more of my peers gets non busy to see more exact what is happening
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[19:42] <toad_> pheenode: it shouldn't, if you don't tell it to
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[20:47] <Cooo> toad_: nextgens: here?
[20:48] <toad_> Cooo: hmmmm?
[20:48] <Cooo> the default bookmarks doesn't seem to update the edition number when a page updates.
[20:49] <nextgens> :s
[20:49] <nextgens> Cooo> which ones are we talking about ?
[20:49] <Cooo> for example. The Ultimate FreeNet Index is bookmarked at edition 1, it should update to edition 3
[20:49] <nextgens> for the "default" set that's a feature not a bug
[20:50] <Cooo> Hrrm. Then I have to bookmark them as my own if I want to know when the Flogs updates?
[20:51] * nextgens hasn't thought about that
[20:52] <Cooo> I think they should behave like they did before and give me a message when updated.
[20:53] <nextgens> the problem with that is that we don't persist them to disk
[20:54] <nextgens> meaning that they would tell you that they have been updated at each startup
[20:54] <nextgens> I guess that it's a problem too ;)
[20:54] <Cooo> hmmm. Thats a problem.
[20:56] <Cooo> I guess we need to do some thinking about it. I also guess that I am not the only one that is going to miss the update messages.
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[20:58] <nextgens> I could do some "bookmark merging" code
[20:59] <nextgens> and persist them to disk
[20:59] <nextgens> maybe that's what I'm gonna do
[20:59] <Cooo> thats an idea.
[20:59] <nextgens> ok, I'll fix it
[21:00] <Cooo> great. :)
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[21:07] <Wolf9696> Hello? Anybody alive here?
[21:07] <Cooo> Strange. My node just gave me a message that I am not running the latest version of Freenet and that it is fetching #1075
[21:08] <toad_> odd
[21:08] <toad_> is it running 1075?
[21:08] <toad_> Wolf9696: apparently so
[21:09] <Cooo> toad_: Yep. running #1075 r16095
[21:09] <toad_> well, let me know if it fetches 1076
[21:10] <Wolf9696> I was using Freenet with Firefox, but then I had problems with Firefox and uninstalled it. So I unintalled Freenet and am re-installing it now with Internet Explorer. Will I have to get new references and stuff?
[21:10] <toad_> no
[21:10] <toad_> well yes if you are reinstalling it
[21:10] <toad_> why did you uninstall it?
[21:10] <toad_> anyway you can't safely use freenet with internet explorer
[21:11] <Wolf9696> It wasn't working with Internet Explorer.
[21:11] <Cooo> will do. pobably going too sleep soon though so I might not be near to see any more messages from the node
[21:11] <toad_> it won't safely work with IE full stop
[21:11] <Wolf9696> Crap. So I gotta uninstall it again, download and reinstall Firefox, and reinstall it.
[21:11] <toad_> it's possible to do a registry hack, but it's not recommended
[21:12] <Wolf9696> Why does it not work with IE?
[21:15] <toad_> problems with MIME type autodetection
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[21:24] <Cooo> toad_: INFO | jvm 1 | 2007/11/29 22:16:08 | Found update edition 1076
[21:34] <Cooo> Hrrrm. My node doesn't seem to make log files anymore, except for wrapper.log. Not even with logging level : DEBUG. Running with r16105 now. Dont think that r16095 which I ran before wrote any logs either.
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[21:35] <fleXible> hello which channel should I visit for developing operating system, it's for educational purpose
[21:37] <Cooo> fleXible: Dunno. This channel is for Freenet
[21:37] <fleXible> ok thnx man
[21:41] <Cooo> NP
[21:42] <Cooo> Might have been a mistake from my side when I didn't see log files.
[21:43] <saces> fleXible: #freenet-chat is for any kind of off topic talk.
[21:43] <fleXible> oooh ok
[21:43] <Cooo> toad_: I now got a message in Fproxy that my node wants to update to 1076.
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[21:48] <Cooo> toad_: #1076 downloaded and installed from Freenet. Also got several peers that is running #1076
[21:48] <Cooo> well.. gotta get some sleep.
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[22:25] <mYone_> toad_: little issue with #1076: after automatic update all bookmarks and sections are duplicated... but 'edit' shows every bookmark only once (seems to be the old bookmarks from the ini file?)
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[22:32] <nextgens> yeah, it doesn't show default bookmarks anymore
[22:33] <indre1> Same problem here with bookmarks
[22:34] <indre1> and this connectivity thing seems quite useless, I've got the port forwarded but it says status: "unknown"... and so does the plugin (says not forwarded)
[22:35] <Akavsa> how many people is using it and what type of content is shared?:)
[22:35] <indre1> Everything
[22:36] <Akavsa> and aprox num fo users?
[22:37] <indre1> no idea!
[22:38] <Akavsa> or active nodes in single time I dont think i can even download anything:)) are your downloads speedy?
[22:38] <indre1> Well, if you're looking for file sharing program, then this is not fast
[22:38] <indre1> Takes around 24h to get 700mb file
[22:38] <indre1> or even a bit more
[22:38] <indre1> Depending on your nodes and connection of course...
[22:39] <Akavsa> and what about "anonymous internet" is there big number of sites? and something like google?:D
[22:40] <indre1> No, nothing like that...
[22:40] <indre1> And as everything is anonymous, there's quite some bull**** around
[22:41] <Akavsa> :)) ok thanks i will see
[22:41] <indre1> I've been using it maybe for a week, but maybe there is something in it... haven't explored the pages very much...
[22:41] <indre1> But the idea is great and hopefully it gets a lot more popular!
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[22:42] <indre1> I get this strange: Not allowed to upload some *.tmp file error all the time frost starts up, any suggestions?
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[23:25] <mYone_> I just noticed: I've already increased the max thread limit to 750 but only after 17 minutes of uptime i already have Preemptive Rejection Reasons "21759 >threadLimit". Seems a bit much? Or isn't it? Can i do anything against that besides increasing the thread limit even more?
[23:26] <atomicplayboy> hmm
[23:26] <atomicplayboy> I have quite high as well
[23:27] <saces> indre1: frost try to detect the dda feature, you can "ignore" this error at this point.
[23:28] <indre1> what's dda...?
[23:28] <pheenode> I want to use freenet to build a small darknet with several of my friends, how do I make a customised installer?
[23:29] <indre1> And why does it take forever to load RC2 :(
[23:29] <pheenode> as in, I want to make an installer package that installs different default settings
[23:29] <indre1> I mean the update, it's scanning some files
[23:29] <pheenode> so I don't have to manually configure all the nodes
[23:36] <Tommy[D]> pheenode, different default settings = ?
[23:36] <mYone_> in addition to my last message: i have a very high backedoffpercent (about 75%) with #1076 (almost all of my peers are backedoff)... anyone else ?
[23:37] <atomicplayboy> T have about 50% but I was told that it isn't my fault
[23:37] <atomicplayboy> I
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[23:42] <pheenode> Tommy[D]: higher upload speed, bigger datastore, possibly some default node refs, perharps include frost
[23:45] <pheenode> and a different set of default boards in frost
[23:46] <pheenode> trivial to do with the .jar installer for unix
[23:46] <pheenode> but the Windows installer is .exe
[23:46] <pheenode> which is what puzzles me
[23:47] <mYone_> pheenode: you could just create a patch/script that changes these settings and give it to your friends
[23:47] <pheenode> yeah I suppose
[23:49] <mYone_> pheenode: or you just send them a new freenet.ini and boards.xml (for frost). they'd only need to put them in the right directories
[23:49] <Tommy[D]> pheenode, upload+datastore size can be set by freenet.ini, default node refs could be a little bit harder because of the random port
[23:49] <Tommy[D]> pheenode, including frost perhaps simply a .bat or .sh that runs both installers after each other?
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[23:50] <pheenode> yeah that'd work
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[23:50] <pheenode> I'm just not great with scripting in Windows :)
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[23:50] <pheenode> when it comes to things like altering config files via scripts
[23:50] <mYone_> Tommy[D]: isnt frost already included in the new_installer.jar as an installation option ?
[23:51] <Tommy[D]> mYone_, dont know, i dont use any of the installers, i do my own for my system
[23:52] <pheenode> actually, yes I think it is
[23:58] <nextgens> pheenode> the exe is a selfextracting rar file iirc
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