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[0:17] <f0rc3fl0w> so guess who is having connectivity problems?
[0:18] <f0rc3fl0w> i have my port forwarded
[0:18] <f0rc3fl0w> still no joy
[0:18] <f0rc3fl0w> any ideas?
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[3:36] <Eol> anybody around that that can give me a freent lcoak?
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[3:54] <TheSeeker> cloak?
[4:02] <Eol> freenet cloak for freenode
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[4:03] <Eol> trying to get a ref bot as I lost my ref list BUT my freenet node is also my tor node
[4:03] <Eol> which means its banned from freent-refs as it bans tor nodes
[4:03] <Eol> the cloak gets around that
[4:03] <Eol> e.g to a /whois Eol
[4:04] <Eol> look @ Eol@
[4:04] <Eol> its a freenode feature
[4:05] <Eol> any ofthe ops here can set it up
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[5:55] <chaz_> hello
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[6:17] <yassi> good morning
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[12:10] <toad_> saces: SVK is written in perl? SVN is written in C ... I don't see the problem really
[12:12] <toad_> kolo2_: sun/gcj releasing a good free java will solve the distro integration / free software problems without us having to rewrite fred in C
[12:13] <saces> I need to learn perl first.
[12:13] <saces> and may install the right perl version, this will touch a running system.
[12:13] <toad_> <Journeyman> why the hell would you run freenet on a router
[12:14] <toad_> because a router is always-on and silent, fanless. imho it would be great if we could run freenet on a router. it should be possible with a 1.5-capable GCJ, some debugging, and a lot of work on memory usage.
[12:14] <toad_> oh and a USB hard disk :)
[12:19] <toad_> imho you'd need something with a bit more RAM than a KWGR614 (and a USB host connector for an external hard disk), no matter how much optimisation you do to freenet :)
[12:20] <toad_> dbkr: well ... what do you want to fetch from ant? if building freenet, for example, we fetch freenet-ext.jar. we shouldn't, we should recognise if Contrib has been unpacked nearby (in a sister directory) and if so build freenet-ext.jar from that.
[12:20] <toad_> dbkr: at the very least we should check the signature :(
[12:20] <dbkr> well Freemail already does it with bouncycastle
[12:20] <dbkr> and now we need the freenet main jar
[12:20] <toad_> Eol: I dunno how to give you a cloak, you'll have to wait for nextgens :(
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[12:28] <nextgens> Eol> what's the story about the cloack ?
[12:28] <nextgens> Eol> you're already wearing one!
[12:29] <nextgens> and how comes your cloack is freenet/users/ vs freenet/user/ ?
[12:39] <dbkr> nextgens: that reminds me, I should probably ask you about things like that
[12:39] <dbkr> like, is there a special way of getting onto #freenet-dev without having to hassle you or someone else
[12:40] <toad_> dbkr: hmmm
[12:40] <nextgens> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/11/the_strange_sto.html
[12:41] <nextgens> dbkr> do you want a freenet cloack ?
[12:41] <dbkr> yeah, might be good actually
[12:45] * dbkr -> lunch
[12:45] <dbkr> bbl
[12:47] <nextgens> http://www.ssi.gouv.fr/site_documents/politiqueproduit/Mecanismes_cryptographique_v1_10_standard.pdf
[12:47] <nextgens> something else worths reading
[12:50] <nextgens> Eol> tell me about the cloack story please
[12:50] <toad_> nextgens: nice (first one)
[12:51] <nextgens> second one is in french... but quite interresting as well
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[13:20] <Eol> morning all .. you around nextgens
[13:24] <nextgens> yes I am
[13:25] <Eol> can I get a freenode cloak for my ref bot ... the freenet node is the same box as a tor exit node and as such, is banned from joining freenet-refs
[13:26] <Eol> nick is simply Eol_bot
[13:28] <nextgens> well, I'm not keen on giving cloacks to bots
[13:28] <nextgens> refbots are a ugly hack
[13:28] <Eol> alright then ..will just not run a bot
[13:28] <Eol> i agree
[13:29] <Eol> doesn't hurt to ask though :)
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[13:39] <nextgens> dbkr> you've got your cloack
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[14:57] <dbkr> nextgens: legend - thanks!
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[15:57] <saces> "add FCP functionality via plugins" is this an idea only or coming soon?
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[15:58] <Bombe> So far it's an idea.
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[16:23] <Aldof666a2> Seems freenet persistent temp files grows without limit, eventually filling up whole disk partition.
[16:24] <Aldof666a2> is this normal?
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[16:42] <toad_> saces: send a patch :)
[16:43] <toad_> Aldof666a2: no, it should only use ~ 2.5x the size of the files being uploaded/downloaded
[16:46] <saces> someone is willing to help?
[16:49] <Aldof666a2> ah ok
[16:49] <Aldof666a2> so it shrinks when there's less files being upped/dled
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[19:16] <- *scrubsleft* http://dark-code.bulix.org/ivlfbz-61149?raw
[19:24] <Cooo> toad_: nextgens: You here?
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[19:54] <Tommy[D]> Cooo, node problems?
[19:59] <toad_> Cooo: hi
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[20:03] <Cooo> toad_: Hi there.
[20:04] <Cooo> toad_: i have some strange errors in my logs. One of them says "WTF? the HMAC verified but we don't know about that exponential! SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!"
[20:06] <Cooo> Others says "The signature verification has failed in JFK(2)!!" or"The signature verification has failed in JFK(3)!!"
[20:07] <nextgens> Cooo> which build are your running ?
[20:07] <nextgens> are your peers up to date too ?
[20:07] <Cooo> r15796
[20:08] <Cooo> Mostly 1073 peers, 2 of them still uses 1070
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[20:09] <nextgens> that might be why
[20:10] <Cooo> ahhh.
[20:10] <nextgens> well, it doesn't explain the "signature verification failure" though
[20:10] <nextgens> but it explains the loss of exponentials
[20:12] <Cooo> getting alot of "signature verification errors" might be up to 200 the last hour.
[20:12] <Cooo> running frost and spider @ the moment if that helps
[20:13] <Cooo> on another note. Is the dev channel closed?
[20:15] <nextgens> Cooo> is it always from the same peer ?
[20:15] <nextgens> Cooo> it's not closed, it's invite only
[20:15] <nextgens> we want most discussions to happen on the logged channel
[20:16] <Cooo> nextgens: : Ahhh. It was handy to get the update logs directley in the dev channel.
[20:17] <nextgens> we send them on #freenet-chat too iirc
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[20:18] <Cooo> Joining.
[20:19] <nextgens> Cooo> may you pastebin parts of your logfiles where the signature verification fails ?
[20:19] <nextgens> something like 15 lines before the error occurs
[20:19] <nextgens> well, with loglevel=minor that is
[20:20] <Cooo> Hmm.. Strange thing. The signature error seems to come from the same node. That node has been disconnected for more than 3 days.
[20:21] <Cooo> Setting loglevel to minor
[20:28] <nextgens> well, it won't connect if the signature verification fails anyway :)
[20:28] <nextgens> so the disconnection counter is useless
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[20:34] <Cooo> ahhh. Fixing the logs file now.
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[20:37] <Cooo> http://dark-code.bulix.org/53xqzv-61158?raw
[20:38] <saces> toad_: any ristrictions? one command per plugun? or can it go "full power"?
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[20:52] <Cooo> nextgens: was there enough info in the logs?
[20:52] <Cooo> saces: What are you planning to do?
[20:52] <nextgens> no
[20:52] <nextgens> but I bet it's because your peer is out of date
[20:53] <saces> Cooo: add fcp commands via plugin.
[20:53] <Cooo> nextgens: The peers that is causing the signature verification failures is running 1073 according to my friends page.
[20:53] <Cooo> saces: Ok.
[20:57] <nextgens> Cooo> and you're reasonably sure that it didn't change it's keys ?
[21:01] <Cooo> nextgens: Not shure about that.
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