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[0:04] <edt> how can I tell what a given thread is in freenet. My node has started taking 100% cpu. One or two threads seem to be eating most of it. Normall freenet uses 5-10% cpu when working hard. (I am on amd64 at 1073 kernel 2.6.23.1 no inserts running no thaw or frost).
[0:05] <nextgens> get some thread dumps
[0:05] <nextgens> and you'll see what the node is doing
[0:05] <edt> what does that with sun's java?
[0:05] <edt> signal 2 ?
[0:06] <nextgens> the wrapper has a feature to do it
[0:06] <nextgens> hmm
[0:06] <nextgens> either attach a debugger to the jvm
[0:06] <nextgens> or send a sigint yeah
[0:06] <nextgens> but you'd better use the wrapper
[0:06] <nextgens> from the /stats page
[0:06] <nextgens> and get the output in wrapper.log
[0:11] <edt> it looks like its tring to fetch something
[0:11] <edt> at freenet.crypt.ciphers.Rijndael.encipher(Rijndael.java:100)
[0:11] <edt> INFO | jvm 1 | 2007/11/11 19:04:48 | - locked <0x00002aaaafec6338> (a freenet.crypt.ciphers.Rijndael)
[0:12] <edt> at the start of the trace
[0:12] <edt> and
[0:12] <edt> at freenet.client.FECCodec$FECRunner.run(FECCodec.java:407)
[0:12] <edt> at the start
[0:12] <nextgens> it's encoding something
[0:12] <nextgens> meaning that you're inserting stuff
[0:12] <nextgens> that's the normal behaviour
[0:13] <edt> but I am not knowingly inserting
[0:13] <nextgens> to reduce cpu usage, ensure that the native libraries are loaded
[0:13] <nextgens> edt> well, someone is using your node to insert something then
[0:13] <nextgens> get another thread dump
[0:13] <edt> should not be possible
[0:13] <nextgens> if it's still doing that, your node is really inserting something
[0:14] <nextgens> the only case we insert data without asking is healing
[0:14] <nextgens> but that shouldn't take long
[0:14] <nextgens> and iirc we just turn a request into insert
[0:14] <nextgens> we don't insert new blocks
[0:15] <edt> I understand. when do we heal? I have not asked for any data either. The only inserts should be arks.
[0:15] <edt> btw this is on amd64 and the native encoders are broken again
[0:17] <nextgens> well, they have never worked except for me here
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[0:17] <nextgens> atm we only have probabilistic healing
[0:17] <nextgens> you can't request blocks or segments to be healed manually
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[0:18] <edt> nextgens I once setup an account on this box for toad. If it will help the amd64 encoders working I will do the same for you.
[0:19] <nextgens> well, I've been working on it because my node was running on a 64bits processor
[0:19] <nextgens> now it has moved and I've lost interrest in porting it
[0:19] * nextgens doesn't own any amd64 anymore
[0:19] <edt> thought I would at least offer
[0:19] <nextgens> :)
[0:20] <edt> suggestion for the stats page. In the same box as the threaddump button add a link to wrapper.log
[0:20] <edt> along with the other two links
[0:20] <nextgens> yeah we could do tha
[0:20] <nextgens> that
[0:22] <edt> there were changes to use ipv6 stuff lately. what happens when only ipv4 is available (which is the case here)?
[0:22] <nextgens> as of 1073 it clobbers silently unknown protocols
[0:24] <edt> that same thread is still working hard...
[0:24] <edt> if someone else was inserting it should still show up in the queued request?
[0:24] <edt> the queue is empty here
[0:24] <nextgens> what do you mean queued request ?
[0:25] <nextgens> well, the queue toadlet displays only the global queu
[0:25] <nextgens> queue
[0:25] <edt> on the 'Queue' tab
[0:25] <nextgens> each client can have its own queue
[0:25] <nextgens> so can each plugin
[0:25] <edt> only allowed clients here are on 127.0.0.1
[0:25] <nextgens> persistent tasks will be stored in downloads.dat.gz
[0:26] <edt> so if anyone else is useing it its a bug
[0:26] <edt> let me check the downloads
[0:26] <nextgens> if rebooting the node solves the problem, it won't even be there though
[0:26] <edt> restarting does not solve it
[0:26] <nextgens> okay, well, have a look to downloads.dat.gz then
[0:27] <nextgens> zless downloads.dat.gz
[0:27] <nextgens> hmm
[0:27] <edt> zcat downloads.dat.gz shows 0
[0:27] <nextgens> okay, so it's not that
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[0:29] <edt> anything else that can be checked?
[0:29] <nextgens> tons of things
[0:29] <nextgens> but I'm going to bed :)
[0:29] <nextgens> logs are usually a good starting point
[0:29] <nextgens> especially at loglevel = minor
[0:30] <nextgens> bbl
[0:30] <edt> I will do some looking - if I find anything I will open a bug
[0:30] <edt> dormier bien
[0:31] <nextgens> nah, it's either "dormez bien" or "dors bien" :)
[0:31] <edt> my french spelling sucks - I can get by in the language though
[0:31] <edt> the first was what I was trying for
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[2:36] <edt> looks like the ipv6 changes are not quite correct
[2:36] <edt> I get exceptions where my node is tring to talk to an ipv6 node - except my linux does not have ipv6 build in it at all.
[2:37] <edt> at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:167)
[2:37] <edt> to at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
[2:39] <edt> Nov 12, 2007 02:25:32:523 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, UdpSocketHandler packet receiver thread on port 3151, NORMAL): Unmatchable packet from
[2:39] <edt> 213.1.1.1:xxx
[2:39] <edt> I seem to be geting hundreds if not thousands of them all from the same address.
[2:47] <edt> now freenet just died for the second time today.
[2:47] <edt> ERROR | wrapper | 2007/11/11 21:42:41 | JVM appears hung: Timed out waiting for signal from JVM.
[2:54] <edt> the unmatchable message seem to come from groups of address NOT just one address.
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[2:57] <edt> reverting to 1070 seem to give a much more stable freenet...
[2:59] <edt> no 100% cpu though I still see exceptions where the node is tring to set to ipv6 address which it cannot since there is NO ipv6 here (either on my box where its not compiled, or via my isp).
[3:02] <edt> looks like 1070 work better generally except that it tries to send to ipv6 address time and time again.
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[9:45] <nextgens> edt> the unmatchable packets thingy has been around since 0.7 has started
[9:46] <nextgens> if you don't paste the trace of your exceptions, we can't help
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[12:25] <FloW3184> hi
[12:25] <FloW3184> where can i change the port 58103 to the port i actually am able to open?
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[12:25] <FloW3184> << brb... eating
[12:36] <edt> some change from 1070 to 1073 causes 1073 to eat 100% cpu here.
[12:37] <dbkr> thread dump?
[12:40] <edt> it looks like its sending according to nextgens last night when we though it was something that was supposed to happen
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[12:45] <toad_> FloW3184: the listenPort option. you will need to shut down the node and change it in freenet.ini. some of your node files are linked to the port number so you may have to move them.
[12:45] <toad_> edt: thread dump? :)
[12:45] <toad_> edt: would be helpful
[12:46] * nextgens isn't convinced that it's a node bug
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[12:46] <toad_> what is it then?
[12:47] <nextgens> the only one who has touched the client-layer stuffs is you... right after 1070
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[12:48] <nextgens> and what you did should be both safe and unrelated to the described symptoms
[12:48] * edt goes to find one of the thread dumps...
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[12:54] <edt> the logs (with the threaddumps) from last night are gone. Restarting 1073 no longer has the 100% cpu (every restart at 1073 previously did). I will keep has 1073 and take and save a dump when it starts looping again.
[12:56] <edt> I have also up the max space logs can use 3x...
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[13:03] * edt notices that he _really_ needs a coffee this morning.
[13:11] <wth> what time do you have edt? :D
[13:17] <edt> the correct one for my zone
[13:18] <wth> good answer
[13:19] <edt> which means its time to head off to work :-(
[13:19] <edt> later
[13:19] <wth> bb
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[14:11] <MFreenet> hi i hope u can help me, whit this refbot, i can trade only opennet ref's?
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[15:46] <toad_> [OT] any recommendations for UK ISPs?
[15:47] <dbkr> depends what you're looking for
[15:48] <dbkr> Tiscali give you fairly standard net access, but chuck in IPTV too
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[16:44] <PrototypeX29A> hi
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[21:06] <b8edbreth> Can I get some help from any one in here with freenet?
[21:06] <b8edbreth> Is there any one even here??
[21:06] <Zothar_Work> b8edbreth: ya gotta stick around and wait for an answer since we're not all sitting with our eyes glued to the screen waiting for someone to ask a question
[21:07] <Zothar_Work> b8edbreth: see http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FirstTimersHandbook and then ask again if you need help
[21:09] <b8edbreth> Ok well i have created my darknet ref with no treouble. but the pybot is asking for something called a opennet node ref which I cannot find any information on creating
[21:12] <IMCensored1> darknet = friends -- openet = strangers
[21:13] <b8edbreth> hmm ok
[21:13] <b8edbreth> thank you
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[21:17] <Prototyp1X29A> re
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[23:06] <toad_> hi sanity long time no see
[23:06] <sanity> hi toad
[23:06] <sanity> how is the new broadband?
[23:07] <toad_> having some teething issues - some incoming ports blocked, conflicting messages on whether they're supposed to
[23:07] <toad_> be
[23:07] <toad_> other than that very good
[23:07] <sanity> we got paid by google
[23:08] <sanity> so the project is actually in pretty good financial shape right now
[23:08] <toad_> those issues could cause me to have to switch to another ISP, if I do I may have to pay the full year's cost on this one :(
[23:08] <toad_> sanity: cool
[23:08] <sanity> surely not if the reason is faulty service
[23:08] <toad_> we should get a second dev
[23:08] <toad_> well that's my view: how was i to know they blocked those ports?
[23:08] <sanity> well, i'm not sure our finances are *that* good
[23:09] <toad_> well sure but imho we would get more donations
[23:09] <toad_> we got a lot less donations before we had me
[23:09] <sanity> true
[23:09] <sanity> do you have anyone in mind?
[23:09] <toad_> no, that's the problem :|
[23:09] <sanity> how goes opennet?
[23:09] <toad_> nextgens is busy and has legal issues with working for us
[23:09] <toad_> i dunno yet
[23:10] <sanity> legal issues?
[23:10] <toad_> well, technically freenet is (maybe) illegal in france :|
[23:10] <sanity> well, its up to him, but lots of things people do every day *could* be illegal according to some dumb law on the books somewhere
[23:10] * toad_ has suggested many times that he exercise his migration rights as an EU citizen, but he doesn't seem keen atm :)
[23:11] <sanity> i thought he was living in ireland?
[23:11] <toad_> true
[23:11] <toad_> nah he went back home
[23:11] <toad_> i think
[23:11] <toad_> well it's something to be open to anyway
[23:12] <sanity> yeah
[23:12] <toad_> re opennet, i haven't made much progress since i got back online, sorry
[23:12] <toad_> others have generally avoided anything opennet related afaics
[23:12] <sanity> toad: what remains to be done?
[23:12] <toad_> port forward detection, anonymous connect, seednodes infrastructure, actual announcement protocol
[23:13] <toad_> these are not huge items, if we proceed as planned
[23:13] <sanity> cool
[23:13] <sanity> so you can make that your highest priority?
[23:13] <toad_> that's well up the list yeah, i have some admin to do first, and maybe one or two urgent bugs
[23:14] <toad_> admin = catching up with what other folk have been doing :)
[23:15] <sanity> ok, cool
[23:15] * toad_ reads more or less every mail to -cvs
[23:15] <sanity> good luck with that
[23:15] <toad_> it's a great way to find bugs
[23:16] <toad_> as well as good paranoia
[23:16] <toad_> ok cya
[23:16] <sanity> let me know if you need me to help with anything
[23:16] <toad_> http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/15-11/ff_chinafirewall?currentPage=1
[23:17] <toad_> nice article on the Wall and its working and not working in wired
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