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IRC Log for 2007-11-11

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[1:43] <spm_Draget> May I ask a quick question? After searching on the website I could not find an answer: If I want to update my freenetclient under windows, I have to reinstall and reconfigure it compelely!?
[1:55] <TheSeeker> only if you're updating from 0.5 or 0.6
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[2:21] <spm_Draget> And how do I update a 0.7 build then to a newer one?
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[3:44] <TeraByte911> Tommy[D], if you're still here, I have no line in freenet.ini that says "fproxy.bindto"
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[4:15] <jroysdon> Are opennet refs exchanged by darknet peers? Is there a way to far opennet nodes can learn about each other via a darknet path passing their opennet refs?
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[5:13] <jroysdon> Ok, I see that darknet peers should share opennet refs: https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1566 How long should this take to occur? I have a test mini-darknet that I'm trying this out with.
[5:15] <jroysdon> (opennet on) Node 3 -(Friend link)- Node 2 -(Friend link)- Node 1 (opennet on). Will Node 1 and Node 3 exchange opennet refs via Node 2 and eventually have opennet peers to each other?
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[5:35] <jroysdon> What would cause "java.lang.NullPointerException" when I try to visit the Echo plugin? I've deleted it and downloaded it 3 times, same results when I go to visit it. Any ideas?
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[9:35] <Ratchet> jroysdon: I have the same problem with the echo plugin (and TestGallery). I wasn't able to see anything in the logfiles. Does anyone know what's causing this?
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[9:59] <TeraByte911> I reported a problem yesterday with Freenet, specifically I was unable to access the Config pages for Freenet. I was told that this might have been a known issue
[9:59] <TeraByte911> does anyone know any more details about such an issue?
[10:01] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, you were not able to access localhost:8888 ?
[10:01] <TeraByte911> yes, I was unable to access it
[10:01] <TeraByte911> I've just updated Freenet and it seems to work now
[10:01] <Tommy[D]> yes, the latest release should have fixed that problem
[10:02] <TeraByte911> it seems to have fixed it... what exactly was the problem?
[10:03] <Tommy[D]> it was a problem in the source code, the result was, freenet did not open port 8888 and without that you are not able to access it
[10:04] <TeraByte911> ah, I see
[10:04] <TeraByte911> well, it seems that I might have a few new problems on my hands now. Four of the Freenet plugins can't be loaded, according to localhost:8888
[10:05] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, opennet reftrading over darknet does only work if you have some traffic between your nodes, one opennet node needs to get some packets from the other opennet node
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[10:08] <Tommy[D]> did you try deleting the local copy and reload the plugin from the freenet server? if that gives the same error, please make a bug report at https://bugs.freenetproject.org including the error logs
[10:10] <TeraByte911> I'll give it a try, thanks for the tip
[10:11] <EMPured> I've found the problem for my installaion
[10:12] <EMPured> I've had a messy Java SDK/JDK installation
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[10:12] <EMPured> and that prevented Freenet from being installed correctly
[10:13] <Tommy[D]> how do you create a messy java installation?
[10:14] <EMPured> i dont know :D
[10:14] <EMPured> I think i've deleted once some content and then installed the whole thing again
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[10:14] <EMPured> so some files already existed and were registered and .. i dont know :D
[10:16] <EMPured> ah now i remember: the new java SE is called JDK Update 3. I thought this is only a patch and was looking for java itself. Then I've installed something i thought its java :S
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[10:24] <TeraByte911> Tommy[D], I loaded the plugins manually using the Freenet plugin config page, they seem to work now
[10:25] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, how did you try it before?
[10:25] <TeraByte911> the errors came up straight away as soon as I accessed Freenet's config page for the first time
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[10:30] <EMPured> yeaaah now its working
[10:31] <Tommy[D]> seems like the installer puts in the plugins the old way, some things changed during the last days
[10:31] <TeraByte911> just a minor bug, then?
[10:37] <Tommy[D]> seems so
[10:38] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, seems like nextgens just worked on this bug :)
[10:39] <TeraByte911> the plugin bug?
[10:39] <Tommy[D]> yes
[10:39] <TeraByte911> ah, if only I could buy nextgens a beer, they deserve it
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[10:53] <saces> CHK@hCISi-5meAN2kyIxFY1tFcXh50ts7snch9Alm0ly00I,cTQnVrZhSyR6ogBZ9XSQHrLdy6e~FLhzAT-lq29d1n4,AAIC--8/plugincrap.png
[10:53] <saces> the echo plugin is loaded 5 times!
[10:57] <TeraByte911> saces, have you tried unloading a few?
[10:58] <Ratchet> do i need java1.6 for the echo plugin?
[10:59] <TeraByte911> Ratchet, I think you're best off running the latest version of Java regardless
[11:01] <Ratchet> hm. I use the pre-compiled binary shipped with freebsd6 (java1.5). compiling 1.6 takes ages on the target machine
[11:04] <saces> tried to remove the ip6 adress from tmci, npe http://dark-code.bulix.org/bggshe-60599
[11:08] <nextgens> saces> try 15756
[11:09] <nextgens> Ratchet> echo is broken because of its i18n
[11:09] <nextgens> will be fixed, hopefully next week by Mc2`
[11:10] <TeraByte911> nextgens> many thanks for the fixes, I owe you one
[11:10] <Ratchet> thanks for the info.
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[11:19] <saces> nextgens: npe again, and my done uploads on queue are gone. http://dark-code.bulix.org/vqe9pa-60602
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[11:22] <nextgens> saces> do you have a backup of your downloads.gz file ?
[11:22] <nextgens> how comes there is a ParseException on it ?
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[11:24] <nextgens> saces> what are you setting it to ?
[11:25] <saces> remove the ip6 adress in the config page.
[11:29] <nextgens> try r15757
[11:29] <nextgens> it will disable it alltogether... but reenabling should work
[11:29] <nextgens> bbiab
[11:33] <EMPured> is there a way to start frost now, as a new user?
[11:44] <saces> still npe'ing :( http://dark-code.bulix.org/g0rp3j-60604
[11:44] <saces> and the saved downloads.gz : CHK@Kjs-TXLeGKfWvNo3ucChm0WJ~Ftx18zd2Ds1UbZo-Ls,IBh3EES-8Nk1QamQl69VBR9j8wkZKDPpEXORpCI0dPE,AAIC--8/saved.downloads.dat.gz
[11:50] <saces> nextgens: "You can not change everything on tmci via config page if it is disabled"
[12:14] <EMPured> hey
[12:14] <EMPured> the data in freenet is stored randomly in the sotrages of many users
[12:15] <EMPured> and its iillegal to share, lets say, childporn
[12:15] <TeraByte911> I'll agree with both points... is this going somewhere?
[12:15] <EMPured> so if an user shares childporn, without knowing it, doesn't this make him guilty
[12:16] <EMPured> ?
[12:16] <TeraByte911> that's where the whole concept of plausible deniability comes in
[12:17] <TeraByte911> from Wikipedia:
[12:17] <TeraByte911> The Freenet file sharing network is another application of the idea. It obfuscates data sources and flows in order to protect operators and users of the network by preventing them (and, by extension, observers such as censors) from knowing where data comes from and where it is stored.
[12:18] <EMPured> hm okay
[12:18] <EMPured> that "should" help enough
[12:20] <TeraByte911> even if the Feds get anything on you sharing things like childporn or whatever (which is unlikely enough in itself), you can always use the excuse that you never knew that you were sharing it due to the nature of Freenet
[12:20] <EMPured> like running TOR servers, in this case
[12:21] <TeraByte911> exactly
[12:23] <EMPured> I thinkt Ill still move the whole freenet thing on a with truecrypt encrypted drive, just to be 99.999% sure noone will ever be able ro read a single file out of my HD
[12:24] <TeraByte911> not a bad idea, but remember that performance might suffer slightly if data has to be encrypted/decrypted all the time
[12:24] <EMPured> read/write rate of 25 mb/s ;)
[12:25] <EMPured> okay the CPU will die
[12:25] <EMPured> but who cares :D
[12:25] <TeraByte911> yeah, that's what I meant :P
[12:29] <Ratchet> a cpu cycle is a terrible thing to waste :-)
[12:29] <TeraByte911> that's why I always make sure that my PC is doing something useful ALL the time
[12:30] <EMPured> me too :D
[12:30] <EMPured> but if you think more about it... is anything here really useful?
[12:30] <EMPured> you could just switch that dam pc off :D
[12:30] <EMPured> and everything is fine
[12:31] <Ratchet> heretic!
[12:31] <Ratchet> :-)
[12:31] <TeraByte911> yes, but I know too much about computers to not be using one as much as possible
[12:34] <EMPured> what do you estimate, how many GBs are out there in the freenet?
[12:34] <EMPured> or TBs O.o
[12:36] <TeraByte911> GBs?
[12:37] <EMPured> gigabytes :)
[12:37] <TeraByte911> ah, of course
[12:38] <TeraByte911> it's really impossible to say... there are basically two levels of Freenet: the indexed level, the stuff that's actually linked to, and the non-indexed level, the stuff that you can only find if someone gives you a link to it
[12:38] <TeraByte911> it's a similar concept to the Internet, when you think about it
[12:38] <EMPured> thats true
[12:39] <EMPured> i've heard some ppl use it as a private network
[12:39] <EMPured> among 10 friends or so, thats a great idea too
[12:39] <TeraByte911> yeah, some people do, but I personally don't like the idea
[12:39] <EMPured> why not? :D
[12:39] <TeraByte911> it's not really reliable enough
[12:39] <EMPured> youre thinking of abuse?
[12:39] <EMPured> ah..
[12:40] <TeraByte911> I tend to use things like Hamachi if I want to establish private networks with other people
[12:40] <TeraByte911> quick, easy, and above all safe
[12:40] <EMPured> true
[12:41] <EMPured> and you cant really interact with others in freenet
[12:41] <EMPured> in realtime
[12:41] <TeraByte911> yes, that's another important aspect
[12:42] <TeraByte911> Freenet is really only designed as a decentralised storage network, something that you can put stuff on and not have to worry about it being lost or whatever
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[12:47] <EMPured> ye
[12:47] <EMPured> im wondering where it leads to
[12:47] <EMPured> how will it be in a year
[12:48] <TeraByte911> hopefully it will have grown even more
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[12:49] <EMPured> we'll see
[12:49] <EMPured> maybe only interested ppl continue using it
[12:50] <EMPured> and that would improve speed, as long as they are not only interested in filesharing :D
[12:50] <TeraByte911> nextgens> I have a dynamic IP address with a DynDNS account being updated by my router each time my IP changes. Is it necessary to override my node to use the DynDNS address, or can I just leave it as is?
[12:52] <EMPured> its only necessary if your IP changes too often, so DYNDNS would help. But usualy it works without, as far as i know :)
[12:53] <TeraByte911> well, my IP changes at least once a day, if not more
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[13:00] <Ratchet> If I insert the same file twice, will the resulting CHK key be the same?
[13:00] <Nogaso_> it should be the same
[13:01] <Ratchet> great
[13:03] <EMPured> @TeryByte911, it wont harm if you override your IP with the *.dynDNS.org, only disadvantage is, that the dyndns updater has to run all the time of course
[13:03] <EMPured> but thats obvious
[13:06] <TeraByte911> EMPured> I have a program built into my router that automatically sends any IP address changes to my DynDNS acount
[13:06] <TeraByte911> account*
[13:06] <EMPured> boah thats great
[13:06] <EMPured> use it :D
[13:07] <TeraByte911> lol, done
[13:07] <TeraByte911> what about the refs that I have already given out? do they update themselves when I change my node to reflect the DynDNS address?
[13:09] <saces> they are "self updating"
[13:10] <TeraByte911> ah, good, thanks saces
[13:10] <saces> only if all yours peers and you changes the ip at the same time you will run into trouble...
[13:11] <TeraByte911> well now that I'm using my DynDNS address that shouldn't be a problem
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[13:28] <TeraByte911_> I am getting really tired of my ISP resetting my internet connection every single night
[13:29] <EMPured> i see :D
[13:29] <TeraByte911_> now I have to wait for my first IRC connection to time out, not to mention my Freenet node connections
[13:30] <EMPured> thats strange, why didnt your node reconnect yet?...
[13:31] <TeraByte911_> it's reconnected to two other nodes, but I'm still not connected to you again yet
[13:31] <TeraByte911_> any ops available to boot my first connection off the channel?
[13:32] <EMPured> :D
[13:32] <TeraByte911_> guess not... :(
[13:32] <saces> TeraByte911_: register on nickserv and you can "kick yourself"
[13:33] <TeraByte911_> register this nick, you mean?
[13:33] <saces> yep.
[13:33] <TeraByte911_> hehe, okay
[13:34] <saces> and you can also kick any impersonator, its *your* nick after register.
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[13:34] <TeraByte911_> wheeeee :P
[13:34] <EMPured> but now he registers TeraByte911_
[13:34] <EMPured> not his original nick
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[13:35] <EMPured> good
[13:35] <EMPured> :D
[13:35] <EMPured> hey, whats "N2NTM"
[13:35] <EMPured> is that some kinda messaging?
[13:35] <TeraByte911> yep
[13:35] <Tommy[D]> node to node message
[13:35] <TeraByte911> node to node text message
[13:36] <EMPured> thanks
[13:36] <saces> node-to-node-text-message.
[13:37] <TeraByte911> why can I not connect to any of these nodes again?
[13:38] <EMPured> would it help, if you update your new resref (with DynDNS) to dark-code.bulix.org ?
[13:38] <Tommy[D]> no
[13:39] <TeraByte911> I've already pasted a new one on there and I'm giving that one out now instead, but that doesn't help for the nodes that I already have references for
[13:39] <Tommy[D]> the ref is once imported, the code on dark-code.bulix.org does not interest the node after that
[13:39] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, are you behind nat?
[13:40] <TeraByte911> yes, if you can call a home router a NAT
[13:40] <EMPured> you can
[13:41] <TeraByte911> it's a very very basic style of NAT, though... not exactly enterprise-grade stuff that we're looking at here
[13:41] <Tommy[D]> do you have the stun-plugin loaded?
[13:41] <TeraByte911> you mean JSTUN?
[13:42] <EMPured> doesn't the actual fresh install not support any plugins?
[13:42] <TeraByte911> I have JSTUN loaded, if that's the one you mean
[13:43] <TeraByte911> what does the Echo plugin do?
[13:44] <Tommy[D]> yes, i meant JSTUN
[13:44] <Tommy[D]> EMPured, why should it not?
[13:44] <TeraByte911> yes, JSTUN is loaded
[13:44] <EMPured> thought ive heard that
[13:44] <Tommy[D]> EMPured, there was a problem with the installer, should have been fixed some hours ago
[13:45] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, if you have at least 1 working connection, the others should also reconnect
[13:46] <TeraByte911> I have two active connections at the moment
[13:46] <saces> TeraByte911: echo is a blog editor (if you can load it and it works)
[13:46] <TeraByte911> but none of the others that were connected before my internet reset itself are reconnecting
[13:46] <TeraByte911> they all say things like "Timeout" and "Accepted Timeout"
[13:47] <TeraByte911> saces: thanks, that'll be something that I won't need. I'm not much of a blogger
[13:49] <TeraByte911> Tommy[D]> would restarting my node help at all?
[13:49] <EMPured> maybe because you've changed your resref
[13:49] <EMPured> /repasted
[13:50] <TeraByte911> EMPured> maybe, but I don't know enough about it to really say
[13:51] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911, i dont think so, just be patient. If your connected peers are new freenet users, they need some time to get your new ip
[13:51] <TeraByte911> okay, I'll let it go for a while then
[14:01] <Zothar> TeraByte911: the timeout stuff is the last reason why your node backed off the peer before it decided the peer had disconnected by no longer responding; the peers will be able to pick up your updated node reference using ARKs if they can otherwise get connected to Freenet and your node is also otherwise connected to Freenet to be able to publish it's updated ARK
[14:01] <Zothar> (Address Resolution Key)
[14:02] <TeraByte911> Zothar> okay. How long does such a process typically take?
[14:03] <Zothar> TeraByte911: it depends a lot on how well connected the part of the cloud they're in is with the part of the cloud you're in; there's, of course, also the possibility that the operator of the peer deleted your ref or shutdown their node
[14:05] <TeraByte911> Zothar> EMPured and myself exchanged refs a few hours ago, and when my internet connection got reset I lost the connection to his node. He confirms that his node is still online, yet we can't connect to each other
[14:07] <TeraByte911> alas, the connections are coming back online
[14:09] <Zothar> TeraByte911: ask him to try to fetch your ARK from his node; get the ARK URI from your node reference: add / then the ark.number then / to the ark/pubURI
[14:14] <TeraByte911> Zothar> I've got my ARK, but neither of us know how to fetch an ARK
[14:18] <Zothar> TeraByte911: put it in the "Fetch A Key" field on the Welcome page
[14:18] <TeraByte911> Zothar: okay, thanks
[14:19] <EMPured> could someone tell me how to start frost?
[14:20] <Zothar> I believe there's a frost.cmd and frost.sh file in the frost folder
[14:21] <EMPured> i dont even have a frost folder
[14:21] <EMPured> installed it today
[14:21] <EMPured> ive downloaded the frost-19-jul-2007.exe from freenet, but it does nothing, doesnt matter where i put it in.
[14:23] <Zothar> I'm not sure what to do with an .exe as I believe I've always downloaded it as a .zip, so apparently some distribution method has changed, or you don't have the official distro of Frost
[14:24] <EMPured> that could be
[14:24] <TeraByte911> EMPured, have you tried going to the "Frost" link in the start menu? it works for me
[14:24] <TeraByte911> of course, searching doesn't work (big surprise)
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[14:33] <EMPured> yeah, yesterday, with the old installer i've had the shortcuts too
[14:33] <EMPured> but this time it didnt create them
[14:34] <TeraByte911> I automatically got the shortcuts when I installed Freenet
[14:35] <EMPured> then you've installed it before today, right? :)
[14:36] <TeraByte911> yes, I installed it yesterday
[14:36] <EMPured> see :D
[14:36] <EMPured> it has been rebuilt tonight
[14:36] <EMPured> maybe nextgens could tell me more
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[14:41] <nextgens> hmm ?
[14:41] <nextgens> well, I've no idea regarding shortcuts
[14:41] <TeraByte911> EMPured is having problems getting Frost running
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[14:52] <EMPured> since the update tonight it didnt even create a frost directory
[14:52] <EMPured> nothing
[14:53] <TeraByte911> weird
[14:53] <EMPured> ill try downloading it from the sourceforge page
[14:53] <TeraByte911> at any rate, you're not missing a whole lot EMPured, Frost isn't exactly awesome
[14:54] <EMPured> :(
[14:54] <EMPured> thought so :D
[14:55] <nextgens> EMPured> thaw is compatible with frost
[14:55] <TeraByte911> it's really just an email client crossed with an online chat room
[14:55] <TeraByte911> nextgens: what exactly is thaw?
[14:56] <nextgens> rtfm :)
[14:56] <EMPured> well, in my thaw direcotry is only a Thaw.jar
[14:56] <EMPured> But i managed to get Frost working
[14:56] <Ratchet> can I share identities between frost and thaw?
[14:56] <Jflesch> yes.
[14:56] <Ratchet> I checked out thaw today for the first time. looks usable :-) but i still like frost
[14:58] <TeraByte911> nextgens: rtfm?
[14:58] <TeraByte911> wait, nevermind
[15:09] <TeraByte911> Thaw won't even start on my machine
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[17:18] <mik76> hi, can someone tell me please, how can i increase Java memory for Freenet ? (def. is 127MB) ?
[17:19] <Nogaso> IIRC its in wrapper.conf
[17:19] <mik76> ah, thx i'll look...
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[17:30] <Nogaso> anyone here at the moment?
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[18:08] <Tommy[D]> here: 46, active: unknown :)
[18:10] <Zothar> Nogaso: if you want to ask or say something, just do so; worst case, nobody responds...
[18:10] <saces> a lot of "power idlers" around ;)
[18:10] <Nogaso> would you mind testing something for me? (won't take long)
[18:10] <Nogaso> :)
[18:10] <saces> a bomb?
[18:11] <Nogaso> change to the 'no' translation and check the opennet warning, it is constantly reset to english at my node...
[18:11] <Nogaso> saces: if you want one...
[18:17] <saces> Nogaso: its a minor isue: the opennet warning translation is not changed on the fly. it changes after node restart.
[18:21] <Nogaso> ok, thanks
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[19:40] <EMPured2> hey, is there a way adding many USK links at once to the download query?
[19:41] <EMPured2> or how do i add only one link? didnt even get this one :/
[19:41] <Zothar> Thaw is designed for that kind of stuff IIRC
[19:42] <EMPured2> cool thank you
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[19:45] <EMPured2> and.. .can i download them somehow in my cache?
[19:45] <EMPured2> i dont need them as single files, they are embedded in a freesite
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[19:49] <Zothar> download in your cache? If they're linked as individual files, that' how you have to retrieve them; they can't be retrieved as an archive unless they were inserted that way
[19:52] <EMPured2> I've got the USKs from the freesite, which is using the files. I just want to leave the side open until all the files are loaded. So I want them to download manually, but later be able to see the content in the freesite and not have to redownload them again
[19:57] <Zothar> They will likely retrieve with a decent speed once they've been retrieved the first time, but if speed is really an issue, you'd mirror the site locally for offline reading; if the files are large, then that's another story entirely
[20:01] <EMPured2> okay i see
[20:01] <EMPured2> thank you
[20:01] <EMPured2> in this case i have to use the old fashioned way
[20:01] <Ratchet> there are a lot of website mirroring tools out there. just pull the site to your harddrive and view locally
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[20:31] <ips> Hi my node is ( http://dark-code.bulix.org/opkvau-60648 ) anyone care to share
[20:31] <EMPured> ips
[20:31] <EMPured> go to #freenet-refs
[20:31] <EMPured> and ask again
[20:31] <ips> tnx
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[21:06] <EMPured> zothar your bots are spamming the channel :D
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[21:07] <Zothar> EMPured: ironically, it's part of development on them to reduce all refbot.py spamming of the channel
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[21:39] <bobbo> are the sites listed in the first default bookmark the only sites on Freenet?
[21:44] <Tommy[D]> eh, open them and you get the answer
[21:45] <EMPured> Zothar: something like an intelligent script? so, if noone new joined channel it doesnt send messages that often etc?
[21:46] <Zothar> EMPured: exactly; cooperative announce; first, the plan is to announce directly to new users via PM, then later do the announce to the channel stuff
[21:58] <EMPured> sounds great, would be far more efficient if every look in the blinking channel would mean a new ref and not only an old one :)
[21:59] <Zothar> well, ideally, the channel we be replaced by opennet mechanisms, but that's not quite there yet
[22:15] <EMPured> i've hear rumours about next year...
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[22:24] <Fairy82> hi
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[22:34] <EMPured> hey
[22:37] <Fairy82> just wondering, I saw my client asked to update to version 1073. did you see that too?
[22:37] <EMPured> it has been built tonight, the new version
[22:38] <EMPured> "tonight" 24 hours ago :D
[22:38] <EMPured> so yes, its normal and you should download it
[22:38] <Fairy82> ok but I don't see anythning about it on the freenet site
[22:39] <EMPured> there were just a few bugfixes
[22:39] <EMPured> small changes with huge effect for new users. Ppl with a fresh installation experienced some problems and thats fixed now
[22:39] <Tommy[D]> what do you want to see on the freenet site?
[22:41] <Fairy82> aha
[22:41] <Fairy82> thought I would see an update on the site then
[22:41] <Fairy82> I'm quite new to freenet
[22:41] <Fairy82> quite slow it is :D
[22:42] <Fairy82> don't see much interresting sites yet but maybe the network is growing?
[22:42] <Tommy[D]> the updates are announced on the mailing list and can be seen in this channel, if freenet asks you to update, its an update inserted by a dev, so should be secure unless someone hacks a dev-computer :)
[22:44] <dbkr> even then, the keys that the updates are published to can be revoked
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[22:45] <Zothar> and not just any dev, but one of about three trusted devs
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[22:52] <EMPured> whats this phenomen of mirroring real site in freenet all about?
[22:52] <EMPured> do we need selfhtml in freenet? O.o
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[23:11] <edt> anyone else have 1073 stop? Here is was refusing to respond to fproxy and monitoring showed it was not using bandwidth - yet ps showed it and the wrapper happily running.
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[23:56] <edt> anyone else see a few of the freenet threads eating 100% of the cpu on a box (1073)?

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