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[0:34] <kapoboo> hi, i just updated to tha latest version and al the plugins are gone.. i dont really now sh.. about what those do but is there a way to fix that?
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[0:37] <Tommy[D]> kapoboo, go to the plugins page, choose the plugin you want and load it?
[0:40] <kapoboo> Oh i see.. so simple and yet it didn't just occur to me
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[0:49] <saces> you wanna load a local plugin?
[0:55] <Tommy[D]> saces, if you have a local copy in the plugin dir o a official plugin, it will be loaded localy
[0:56] <saces> my browser is "zickig", just crashed.
[0:57] <saces> again.
[0:59] <saces> boom. again.
[1:01] <saces> after pressing load or reload my browser warns me "sending data again", I press cancel.
[1:02] <saces> the next button click crashes my browser.
[1:04] <saces> Tommy[D]: if the main class given in manifest is invalid, I find a npe in the log, but no errormessages in gui.
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[1:07] <Tommy[D]> saces, write it in the bug report for bombe, its his work ;-)
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[1:19] <saces> after unload plugin and load it again from file:///home/saces/freenet/project/KeyDebug/dist/KeyDebug.jar, the old one is picked from plugindir, not the new fixed build.
[1:19] <saces> and crashes my browser again.
[1:19] <saces> unusable. giving up.
[1:20] <saces> may will try again if the auto refresh is removed.
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[3:03] <ShadowCraven> Greetings all. I've a silly question that's been bugging me all day... Where the heck are my files?!
[3:03] <ShadowCraven> In the freenet queue page, it shows them as 'Completed: Downloaded to temporary directory", however the assigned temp directory has no complete files.
[3:03] <ShadowCraven> What am I doing wrong? :)
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[3:09] <ShadowCraven> Hrm. I have figured out how to bend Thaw to my will. Yay! Guess the FCP interface in Freenet is for info only.
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[4:33] <Redblade> does anyone know about denemo?
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[5:28] <Clouseau_> how can i get freenet to work
[5:29] <Clouseau_> after installation and being on the 'welcome' html page, i tried to click one of those links
[5:29] <Clouseau_> but it says that it cannot connect
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[5:53] <Clouseau_> hello
[5:53] <Clouseau_> need help on running freenet
[5:54] <Clouseau_> anynone can help?
[5:54] <Clouseau_> have problems with the service
[5:54] <Clouseau_> after installation it says it cant connect to localhost:8888
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[6:18] <Clouseau_> anyone can help?
[6:18] <Clouseau_> still struggling with freenet to get it work
[6:21] <Clouseau_> why does 'frost' say it sends my IP to the NSA ?
[6:21] <Clouseau_> the german version says it sends the IP to the 'BND' which is the German NSA
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[7:03] <Waggie> !opennet
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[11:33] <EMPured> does anybody know a better installhelp than http://freenetproject.org/install.html ?!
[11:33] <EMPured> hi first :D
[11:38] <Tommy[D]> tried reading wiki.freenetproject.org ?
[11:39] <EMPured> good idea, thank you
[11:40] <EMPured> will do
[11:48] <nextgens> any suggestion on how to improve the help page would be welcome
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[11:49] <EMPured> i have a specific problem. the help page helps everyone else but me :/
[11:49] <EMPured> there is no "installaton problems" section, maybe my problems are uncommon :D
[11:50] <nextgens> what's your problem then ?
[11:51] <nextgens> we have a FAQ
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[11:54] <EMPured> okay,im using the freenet-win.exe. After the installation, in the "processing" window where it should downoad plugins, it says "Process execution failes. Continue anyway? yes/no" and in the download/install log i can read "The command "Java" is either wrong written or could not be found"
[11:55] <EMPured> result is, that no plugins got installed and i cant even rund my node
[11:55] <EMPured> trying to run the freenet service manually also fails, so i was looking for a way to delete the service in windows, but without success so far :(
[11:56] <nextgens> hmm
[11:56] <nextgens> that might be related to what we did yesterday
[11:57] <EMPured> what did you do?
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[12:03] <nextgens> EMPured> ok, we know why it's broken
[12:03] <nextgens> EMPured> will be fixed... soon, maybe tonight
[12:04] <EMPured> wow, thats service 8)
[12:04] <EMPured> thank you
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[15:11] <TeraByte911> /msg Nickserv identify voy74656
[15:12] <TeraByte911> Hi all, I've installed Freenet but I can't connect to the config page, any ideas?
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[15:17] <TeraByte911> Hi, is anyone available to help me?
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[15:19] <EMPured> check if the service is running
[15:19] <EMPured> if you use windows
[15:20] <TeraByte911> yes, the service is definitely running
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[15:20] <EMPured> okay, in this case someone else should help :D
[15:20] <EMPured> sry
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[15:22] <TeraByte911> is there anything else I should look at to see what's going on?
[15:25] <EMPured> i thought i've seen in the wiki.freenet a FAQ for "unable accessing config" page
[15:25] <EMPured> wait a sec
[15:25] <TeraByte911> thank you
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[15:29] <EMPured> cant find it anymore >.>
[15:29] <EMPured> here check it out, maybe you'll find something useful
[15:29] <EMPured> http://wiki.freenetproject.org/HomePage
[15:30] <TeraByte911> alright, I'll have a read
[15:30] <TeraByte911> thanks
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[15:41] <edt> any reason that darknet nodes seem to have much higher overload probabilites than opennet?
[15:41] <TeraByte911> its as if fproxy isn't even running on my machine... is there any way to check whether or not it is?
[15:42] <edt> what does your log say t..911?
[15:44] <TeraByte911> I think this might be of particular interest from the log, edt:
[15:44] <TeraByte911> INFO | jvm 1 | 2007/11/11 02:33:45 | Error starting SimpleToadletServer on 127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:8888
[15:46] <TeraByte911> any ideas?
[15:47] <nextgens> that sounds like the error Tommy[D] has reported
[15:47] <nextgens> hmm, will fix tonight if noone does it
[15:47] <nextgens> in the meantime, shut the node down
[15:48] <nextgens> look for lines containing "127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:8888" and replace them by "127.0.0.1" in freenet.ini
[15:48] <TeraByte911> okay, it's shut down
[15:48] <nextgens> restart the node
[15:48] <nextgens> and see if it works
[15:48] <nextgens> please tell us
[15:48] <nextgens> sorry, lines containing "127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1"
[15:48] <TeraByte911> this is my freenet.ini:
[15:48] <TeraByte911> node.updater.enabled=true
[15:48] <nextgens> I gtg but will read backlog
[15:48] <TeraByte911> node.updater.autoupdate=true
[15:48] <TeraByte911> pluginmanager.loadplugin=plugins.XMLLibrarian.XMLLibrarian@file:///C:\Program Files\Freenet\plugins\XMLLibrarian.jar;plugins.UPnP.UPnP@file:///C:\Program Files\Freenet\plugins\UPnP.jar;plugins.MDNSDiscovery.MDNSDiscovery@file:///C:\Program Files\Freenet\plugins\MDNSDiscovery.jar;plugins.JSTUN.JSTUN@file:///C:\Program Files\Freenet\plugins\JSTUN.jar;
[15:49] <TeraByte911> fproxy.enable=true
[15:49] <nextgens> TeraByte911> don't paste it here
[15:49] <TeraByte911> fproxy.port=8888
[15:49] <TeraByte911> fcp.enable=true
[15:49] <TeraByte911> fcp.port=9481
[15:49] <TeraByte911> console.enable=true
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[15:49] <nextgens> sorry for that, but you shouldn't flood the channel
[15:49] <nextgens> bbiab
[15:50] <TeraByte911> okay, sorry about that, didn't think before I pasted it
[15:51] <TeraByte911> at any rate, there's definitely no reference to "127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:8888" in freenet.ini
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[16:37] <Neckarion> hi all i need help for my node, who can speak french ?
[16:39] <Neckarion> nobody can help me ?
[16:49] <saces> Neckarion: try #freenet-fr
[16:50] <Neckarion> thx
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[17:27] <Tommy[D]> TeraByte911?
[17:29] <Tommy[D]> any line with fproxy.bindto ?
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[18:14] <jroysdon> I'm having trouble getting two new nodes setup. I don't want to connect to the existing freenet network, but want to set up my own mini-darknet. I have the two nodes behind my firewall on the same LAN. They have exchanged darknet peer info, but won't connect to each other.
[18:14] <jroysdon> Node1: http://jason.roysdon.net/freenet/node1txt and Node2: http://jason.roysdon.net/freenet/node2.txt
[18:15] <jroysdon> Node1: http://jason.roysdon.net/freenet/node1.txt and Node2: http://jason.roysdon.net/freenet/node2.txt
[18:15] <jroysdon> ideas?
[18:16] <Ratchet> set "Always allow connecting to nodes via local addresses?" to true in the advanced config page
[18:16] <jroysdon> I have even set the IP override field to my internal IP on each...
[18:17] <jroysdon> Ratchet - ok, how do I get to that page?
[18:17] <Ratchet> set "Enable Advanced Mode?" to true in the standard config page
[18:17] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, enable advanced mode in the config, after that you should be able to see it
[18:18] <jroysdon> Ah, I see it!
[18:20] <jroysdon> So freenet has RFC1918 addresses excluded by default then, eh?
[18:22] <jroysdon> Well, that did it. Thanks ;-)
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[18:26] <jroysdon> What does the Echo plugin do?
[18:26] <Clouseau_> someone here who can help me freenet running?
[18:27] <Clouseau_> i have the probleme that it says it has successful installed
[18:27] <Clouseau_> but when i run it
[18:27] <saces> jroysdon: a blog editor/tool.
[18:27] <Clouseau_> then my browser says 'cannot open localhost:8888'
[18:27] <Clouseau_> firewall turned off
[18:28] <Clouseau_> win xp sp2
[18:28] <Clouseau_> the service is running obviously
[18:28] <Clouseau_> 'wrapper-windows-x86-32.exe'
[18:28] <Clouseau_> so why it does not work?
[18:29] <jroysdon> Do this from a cmd prompt: netstat -n | find "8888" and see if it is bound to a port
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[18:31] <Clouseau_> do I have to copy this 1 to 1?
[18:31] <Clouseau_> netstat -n | find "8888"
[18:32] <Clouseau_> because in cmd prompt nothing happens when i type it
[18:32] <Clouseau_> however, netstat -n shows me all listening ports
[18:32] <Clouseau_> and there's no 8888
[18:32] <jroysdon> Hmm, I cannot get Echo to load. What is UPnP
[18:32] <Clouseau_> although the service is running
[18:32] <jroysdon> Clouseau_ - then it is not running or not bound to the port
[18:33] <jroysdon> stop it and start it again
[18:33] <Clouseau_> gonna try
[18:33] <jroysdon> run.bat stop, then run.bat start
[18:34] <Clouseau_> C:\Program Files\Freenet Project\bin\start.cmd
[18:34] <Clouseau_> is this correct?
[18:35] <Clouseau_> those shortcuts in my start menu
[18:35] <Clouseau_> yeah seems so
[18:35] <jroysdon> yeah
[18:35] <jroysdon> (dunno, running linux here)
[18:36] <Clouseau_> now it says: 'The Freenet 07. darknet-8888 service was started successfully'
[18:36] <Clouseau_> but problem persists
[18:36] <Clouseau_> cannot open any location on localhost:8888
[18:37] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, did you a fresh install?
[18:37] <Clouseau_> and still i cant see the service with netstat
[18:37] <Clouseau_> i did a fresh install, yes
[18:37] <Tommy[D]> and if you open wrapper.log, there is an error line with that port, right?
[18:38] <Clouseau_> i mean, i uninstalled and then re-installed to see if installation was corrupt
[18:38] <Clouseau_> 1 sec
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[18:39] <Clouseau_> theres no error line
[18:39] <Clouseau_> but it says 'FNP port is on 0.0.0.0:22575' in the wrapper.log
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[18:39] <Clouseau_> and 'Starting FCP server on 127.0.0.1:9481'
[18:39] <jroysdon> uhm, during the Frost startup it says, "Sending IP Address to the NSA" - that's not funny if it is supposed to be a joke :/
[18:39] <Tommy[D]> can you put the wrapper.log at http://rafb.net/paste/ and give me the link (in private, if you want)
[18:40] <Clouseau_> yeah frost said to me too, it will send my IP to the NSA (in german translation the BND)
[18:40] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, thats not the only message which should be funny
[18:40] <Clouseau_> the German NSA
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[18:41] <Clouseau_> so i try the FCP server at 9481
[18:41] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, did you see my line?
[18:41] <jroysdon> that's not what you want... look in freenet.ini for fproxy.port=
[18:43] <saces> the wrapper log should also contains a line "Starting FProxy on 127.0.0.1:8888"
[18:43] <Clouseau_> fproxy.port=8888
[18:45] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, can you nopaste your wrapper.log?
[18:45] <Clouseau_> i'll past it
[18:45] <Clouseau_> http://rafb.net/p/Vcvq5941.html
[18:45] <Clouseau_> here it is
[18:46] <Clouseau_> there is a line 'Error starting SimpleToadletServer on 127.0.0.1,0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:8888'
[18:46] <Clouseau_> ohhhhh
[18:46] <Tommy[D]> yeah, the error i reported last night
[18:46] <Clouseau_> maybe i have to switch on some services on windows?
[18:46] <Clouseau_> i turned off a lot of them for security reasons
[18:46] <Tommy[D]> no
[18:47] <Clouseau_> mhh
[18:47] <Tommy[D]> thats a error within freenet
[18:47] <Clouseau_> so probably i have no chance to get it work
[18:47] <Tommy[D]> do you have a freenet.ini?
[18:48] <Clouseau_> yes
[18:48] <Tommy[D]> can you nopaste it for me (in private)?
[18:50] <saces> Clouseau_: or check the "fproxy.bindto=" line.
[18:50] <Clouseau_> http://rafb.net/p/AHejLg29.html
[18:50] <Clouseau_> freenet.ini this is
[18:51] <Clouseau_> fproxy.bindto= is in which file?
[18:51] <Tommy[D]> hm, you could try to get the previous version (1070) or wait until this gets fixed
[18:51] <Clouseau_> previous version
[18:51] <Clouseau_> ok, i'll try
[18:51] <Tommy[D]> saces, is a problem in the freenet source
[18:52] <Clouseau_> where do i get the previous version
[18:52] <Tommy[D]> hm, i can upload the jar-file for you, if you want
[18:52] <Tommy[D]> once freenet started with it, you can update and use the actual version
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[18:54] <Clouseau_> or should i try the offline installer?
[18:55] <nextgens> nah, it's broken as well
[18:55] * nextgens will fix it and release a new build tonight
[18:55] <nextgens> hopefully ^-^
[18:56] <saces> Clouseau_: in freenet.ini, add a line "fproxy.bindTo=127.0.0.1"
[18:56] <Clouseau_> interestingly when i uninstall with uninstall.cmd
[18:57] <Clouseau_> it says 'The system cannot find the path specified'
[18:57] <Clouseau_> and then 'uninstallation successful'
[18:57] <Clouseau_> but it did nothing
[18:57] <Clouseau_> so i have to delete manually
[18:57] <Tommy[D]> saces, wont help, freenet ignores the file
[18:58] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, if you have the actual install, download http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~tommy/freenet-stable-latest.jar and copy it over the existing on in your freenet dir and try starting freenet again
[18:58] <jroysdon> What causes some plugins not to load? "MDNSDiscovery could not be loaded: could not process jar file"
[19:00] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, did you try loading it with the new plugin site or is it an error message after updating?
[19:00] <jroysdon> from the plugin site off of the homepage, I told it to load
[19:00] <jroysdon> it worked on 2 test nodes, not the 3rd...
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[19:02] <jroysdon> ok, n/m
[19:02] <jroysdon> the problem is that while it is downloading, you cannot leave the page
[19:02] <jroysdon> if you do, it stops downloading
[19:03] <jroysdon> I had to go and delete MDNS* from ~/freenet/plugins
[19:03] <Clouseau_> i am back in 1 min
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[19:07] <jroysdon> How do I get MDNSDiscovery to broadcast my opennet node on my subnet?
[19:08] <nextgens> I've got a fix and will need testers soonish
[19:10] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> please test what I've just commited when it's built
[19:10] <Tommy[D]> commit it and i test it ;)
[19:10] <EMPured> I believe in you, nextgens !
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[19:12] <Clouseau_> gonna try again
[19:13] <Clouseau_> because i wanted to uninstall first
[19:13] <Clouseau_> but then i messed up the uninstall
[19:13] <Clouseau_> because as the service was still running the uninstall.cmd did not work
[19:13] <Clouseau_> i thought it would stop the service automatically with the uninstall
[19:13] <Clouseau_> then i deleted manually
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[19:14] <Clouseau_> but on reinstall it said theres already freenet installed and it will install under a different, renamed entry
[19:14] <Clouseau_> also, one time, i f***ed up the install
[19:15] <Clouseau_> because i thought the installation has finished already
[19:15] <Clouseau_> and i could click the quit button
[19:15] <Clouseau_> but then i had no shortcuts
[19:16] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, fproxy binding does work again with r15741
[19:17] <nextgens> ok
[19:17] <nextgens> unless someone has something to say, I'm gonna release a new build
[19:17] * nextgens reviews bombe's commits
[19:17] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> please try the /plugins/ page out
[19:19] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, do you want to add ipv6 localhost by default to all services, where localhost is used?
[19:19] <Clouseau_> strangewise, the offline-installer doesn't create any shortcuts
[19:20] <Clouseau_> oh
[19:21] <Clouseau_> or maybe i clicked quit too early again
[19:21] <Clouseau_> looked like finished
[19:21] <Clouseau_> now i'll try the jar file you posted
[19:22] <Clouseau_> if necessary
[19:22] <Clouseau_> because now i use the online installer
[19:22] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, loading and unloading helloworld and Freemail seems to work, at least the plugins are loaded and i see no errors in wrapper.log
[19:22] <Clouseau_> and it seems to download the most recent version
[19:23] <Tommy[D]> but it would be nice to add a dialog/warning, if freenet wants to download the plugin, atm there is nothing like that
[19:25] <nextgens> hmm
[19:25] <nextgens> there is a bug preventing the release
[19:25] <Clouseau_> i tried the jar file now
[19:25] <Clouseau_> same problem
[19:26] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, can you nopaste your wrapper.log again?
[19:26] <Clouseau_> the service is definitely running
[19:27] <Tommy[D]> yes, the service is running, it has only a problem with fproxy (which is for the browser/webinterface)
[19:27] <Clouseau_> whats the URL for nopaste again
[19:27] <nextgens> Bombe> unloading a plugin, flushing the cache doesn't ever return
[19:27] <nextgens> Clouseau_> you need the testing build
[19:28] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, http://rafb.net/paste/
[19:28] <Clouseau_> thank u
[19:28] <nextgens> Bombe> http://code.bulix.org/skc0y9-60546
[19:29] <Clouseau_> http://rafb.net/p/2FCniO16.html
[19:29] <Clouseau_> the testing build
[19:30] <Clouseau_> where can i get it
[19:30] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, you did not use the jar from my url
[19:30] <Clouseau_> i did
[19:30] <Clouseau_> i swear
[19:30] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, run "update.cmd testing" in the freenet dir to get the testing build
[19:31] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, do you have a file called freenet.jar or freenet.jar.new?
[19:31] <Clouseau_> it was the file freenet-stable-latest.jar you posted earlier
[19:31] <Clouseau_> or whatever the name of the file was
[19:33] <Clouseau_> gonna try the update
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[19:33] <Clouseau_> ok now it says it has updated freenet.jar
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[19:34] <Tommy[D]> try restarting freenet
[19:34] <Clouseau_> ok, but i get an error in the console
[19:35] <Tommy[D]> nopaste? or copy it, if its one line
[19:36] <Clouseau_> '...could not be started'
[19:36] <Clouseau_> system error 1067
[19:36] <Clouseau_> process terminated unexpectedly
[19:36] <Tommy[D]> any new lines in the wrapper.log?
[19:37] <Clouseau_> http://rafb.net/p/JCHpaa61.html
[19:37] <Clouseau_> lots
[19:37] <Clouseau_> maybe i should try a previous buil
[19:37] <Clouseau_> d
[19:37] <Tommy[D]> ok, try removing or renaming freenet.jar
[19:38] <Clouseau_> renamed
[19:38] <Clouseau_> done
[19:38] <Tommy[D]> and download http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~tommy/freenet.jar
[19:39] <Tommy[D]> after that, try restarting freenet
[19:39] <Clouseau_> successful
[19:39] <Clouseau_> so now i look
[19:39] <Clouseau_> browser
[19:39] <Clouseau_> hooooraaaay
[19:39] <Clouseau_> !!!!
[19:39] <Clouseau_> thank u so much!!!
[19:39] <Clouseau_> it works
[19:40] <Clouseau_> now i 'only' have to figure out how i can get nodes and stuff
[19:40] <Clouseau_> :)
[19:40] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, if you want, you can now update to the latest stable version running "update.cmd" in the freenet dir or wait, until freenet downloads it and offers you to update
[19:40] <Clouseau_> and how to use it
[19:41] <Clouseau_> ok, i'll update
[19:41] <Tommy[D]> for the next steps, see http://wiki.freenetproject.org
[19:42] <Clouseau_> do i have to shutdown the service for updating
[19:42] <Clouseau_> because it seems to do nothing
[19:43] <Clouseau_> i already had shutdown the service
[19:43] <Clouseau_> then the updater says new version found
[19:43] <Clouseau_> but doesn't download anything
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[19:43] <Clouseau_> it says it shuts down the service
[19:44] <Clouseau_> 'The service could not be controlled in its present state'
[19:44] <Clouseau_> maybe the service HAS to be running for updating?
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[19:44] <Clouseau_> ok
[19:44] <Clouseau_> works
[19:45] <Clouseau_> well
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[19:45] <Clouseau_> mhhh
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[19:45] <Clouseau_> i am waiting until it has shut down
[19:45] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, do you have some friends some trustworthy friends running freenet?
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[19:46] <Clouseau_> i suppose i am the only one of my friends who even knows about freenet
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[19:47] <Clouseau_> i am a dumb windows user
[19:47] <Clouseau_> so it is a miracle i got this to work
[19:47] -ChanServ- [#freenet] Welcome to the official Freenet support channel! Read the channel topic for more information!
[19:47] <Clouseau_> the update.cmd is still running
[19:48] <Tommy[D]> so i would say, next step is enable opennet in the config, go to #freenet-refs and trade some opennet-refs (after that, freenet will update the ref-list for you until you shut freenet down for more than some minutes)
[19:48] <Clouseau_> "Shutting down Freenet... (This may take hundred years, please don't abort)"
[19:48] <Clouseau_> seems the updater does nothing
[19:49] <Clouseau_> freenet-refs is where i can get nodes?
[19:49] <Tommy[D]> yes
[19:50] <Clouseau_> it says it still shuts down freenet
[19:50] <Clouseau_> this aint normal
[19:50] <Clouseau_> can i interrupt the updater?
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[19:50] <Clouseau_> it doesn't do anything
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[19:51] <EMPured> did I miss something?
[19:51] <Tommy[D]> you could also simply kill the updater and simply use freenet, it should update itself
[19:51] <Tommy[D]> or download the update over freenet and offer you the update
[19:51] <Clouseau_> gonna use it
[19:51] <Clouseau_> it works
[19:51] <Clouseau_> so i am happy
[19:52] <Tommy[D]> btw, #freenet-de if you have some german questions :)
[19:53] <Clouseau_> oh, you are german?
[19:53] <Tommy[D]> yes
[19:53] <Clouseau_> ahso
[19:53] <Clouseau_> :)
[19:54] <Clouseau_> it seems the concept of freenet is a little bit strange
[19:54] <Clouseau_> because i don't know anybody so far among my friends using it
[19:55] <Clouseau_> so at one point people always have to connect to strangers
[19:55] <jroysdon> How do I remove my local 10 IP from my ref info?
[19:55] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, there should be a config option to not use the local ips
[19:55] <TheSeeker> so use it yourself, then tell your friends about it... then they will already have a friend using it and it won't seem so strange to them.
[19:56] <Clouseau_> Automatically connect to untrusted strangers' nodes?
[19:56] <Clouseau_> YES NO
[19:56] <Clouseau_> ?
[19:56] <Clouseau_> mhhh
[19:56] <EMPured> how many ppl are using freenet? ca.?
[19:56] <Clouseau_> without nodes i can't do anything
[19:56] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], I turned it off, it is still showing them. I took out the override IP as well (as I had it in there, to start with)
[19:56] <EMPured> few hundreds? few thousends?
[19:56] <Tommy[D]> if you dont know any trusted friends, you dont have any other choise, do you?
[19:56] <Clouseau_> right
[19:56] <Clouseau_> but even if i convince my friends using it
[19:56] <Clouseau_> then one of them has to connect to strangers
[19:57] <EMPured> someone has to connect to an unknown ressource, yes
[19:57] <Clouseau_> because otherwise theres no conncet to the rest of freenet
[19:57] <Clouseau_> so it like in real
[19:57] <Tommy[D]> perhaps a friends of a friend of a friend runs freenet? ;)
[19:57] <Clouseau_> its like in real
[19:57] <EMPured> and if all your friends add themselves as refs and only one adds a stranger, then it wont work anymore as soon as this friend switchs his pc off :D
[19:58] <Clouseau_> lol
[19:58] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, are you sure, you deactivated all options for this? i think, there is more than 1
[19:58] <jroysdon> Clouseau_, that was what I ran into. The best thing is to get 3-5 "friends" via #freenet-ref and then get on Frost and exchange with others
[19:58] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], I think so... I found it in both node and opennet node
[19:58] <Clouseau_> ok, i'll try freenet-ref
[19:58] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, frost trading is the same as freenet-ref trading.....
[19:59] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], except it's not out in public
[19:59] <Tommy[D]> you dont know the people, its still connecting to unknown strangers
[19:59] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, register to freenode and use private messages to trade refs
[19:59] <jroysdon> msg goes through irc which isn't encryped
[20:00] <Clouseau_> oh
[20:00] <Clouseau_> you are right
[20:00] <jroysdon> Expect anything online to be monitored and tracked, especially freenet refs.
[20:00] <Clouseau_> would be better to stay private
[20:00] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, if you are paranoid, dont use freenet-refs, as the first added node could be a bad guy
[20:00] <Clouseau_> why they monitor freenet refs?
[20:00] <Clouseau_> chinese government?
[20:00] <Clouseau_> :)
[20:00] <jroysdon> Anyone who wants to know the freenet topology
[20:01] <Clouseau_> myanmar government?
[20:01] <Clouseau_> :-)
[20:01] <Tommy[D]> the use the simple way: plug internet off ;-)
[20:01] <Tommy[D]> *they
[20:01] <jroysdon> Try the NSA/US goverment: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/09/2040206
[20:02] <jroysdon> What huge percent of the global internet traffic still routes through the US? Guess how much is watched. I can guarantee you nearly every thing is.
[20:02] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, use freenet-refs to trade some opennet refs...that way, the topology wont be exposed as freenet does change it itself
[20:03] <EMPured> why not just exchange refs here?
[20:03] <Clouseau_> this article is scary
[20:03] <jroysdon> EMPured, too chatty
[20:03] <Tommy[D]> EMPured, because it would spam this channel
[20:03] <EMPured> i mean via private msg, but you know the guys in here now
[20:03] <Tommy[D]> do you really?
[20:03] <jroysdon> EMPured, sure, you could. But do you "really" know anyone here?
[20:03] <EMPured> more than a f... bot :D
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[20:03] <Clouseau_> maybe i am from the NSA
[20:03] <Clouseau_> lol
[20:03] <Tommy[D]> i could be a guy from the NSA....do you know me really? ;)
[20:04] <jroysdon> The coders and top people of Freenet could all be NSA for all you know.
[20:04] <Clouseau_> even more LOL
[20:04] <jroysdon> "Here, use our secure network"
[20:04] <EMPured> Clouseau, you're german, nothing with NASA :D
[20:04] <Clouseau_> the whole project is a fake of the NSA
[20:04] <Clouseau_> lol
[20:04] <EMPured> like the moonlanding, oh noes!
[20:04] <jroysdon> What I'm working on is my own freenet darknet, not connected at all.
[20:05] <Clouseau_> well, the good thing is
[20:05] <bgmmeee> hey guyz...!
[20:05] <Clouseau_> if you know some friends in real who use freenet
[20:05] <EMPured> but what would be if someone here is a "Badguy"
[20:05] <Clouseau_> then u can communicate completely anonymous with them
[20:05] <EMPured> what could he do, monitor the content? oooh.. thats mean O.o
[20:05] <Clouseau_> am i right?
[20:05] <bgmmeee> Installed the app successful and everything.. started the nod...
[20:05] <Clouseau_> so it would be a 'mini-darknet'
[20:05] <EMPured> yes Clouseau
[20:06] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, not really, the ISP can still see that you both trade packets, also they cant see the content
[20:06] <Clouseau_> but why should i stay that extremely anonymous
[20:06] <bgmmeee> but http://127.0.0.1:8888 doesnt open AT ALL
[20:06] <bgmmeee> help? :)
[20:06] <Tommy[D]> bgmmeee, fresh install?
[20:06] <EMPured> sie wollen deine penisgrösse wissen O.O
[20:06] <Clouseau_> my intention to use freenet was only filesharing
[20:06] <Clouseau_> lol
[20:06] <EMPured> filesharing?
[20:06] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, remember, this channel is logged ;)
[20:06] <Clouseau_> ja, der pimmel ist im zentrum des BND
[20:07] <EMPured> tell us more :D
[20:07] <Clouseau_> lol
[20:07] <bgmmeee> ok.. i''ll try Tommy.. :D
[20:07] <Tommy[D]> bgmmeee, my question was, did you do a fresh install or an update?
[20:07] <bgmmeee> *the istall is fress, YES :DD
[20:07] <bgmmeee> n00b ^^
[20:07] <Clouseau_> on the other side, i understand the governments who have interests in freenet
[20:07] <Tommy[D]> bgmmeee, the actual version is broken for new users
[20:08] <Clouseau_> because what about terrorists planing bomb attacks?
[20:08] <Clouseau_> they could use freenet
[20:08] <bgmmeee> so then..?
[20:08] <EMPured> believe me, they have more efficent ways
[20:08] <EMPured> a terrorist wouldnt use an unencrypted way of communication
[20:08] <Tommy[D]> so also for you: rename or remove freenet.jar in your freenet dir and download and copy http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~tommy/freenet.jar there and try restarting freenet
[20:08] <Clouseau_> for me this is a big secret
[20:08] <bgmmeee> 0.5? and THEN update?
[20:08] <EMPured> like the chinese hacker wont use a TOR network
[20:08] <bgmmeee> OK
[20:09] <Clouseau_> so freenet is unencrypted?
[20:09] <Tommy[D]> no
[20:09] <Tommy[D]> all freenet traffic is encrypted and all data in the stores too
[20:09] <Clouseau_> i thought freenet is anonymous?
[20:09] <bgmmeee> TNX 4 the support..much app.! ;)
[20:09] <jroysdon> But you can see all the keys people are requesting going through your node, right?
[20:09] <jroysdon> So you can just request those keys yourself and see what they're getting
[20:10] <EMPured> and everyone inside freenet is able to unencrypt it
[20:10] <jroysdon> (unless you encrypt the content itself, say like a frost post)
[20:10] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, but you cannot say for sure who requested the key
[20:10] <Clouseau_> does it mean you see the IP of your friends?
[20:10] <EMPured> as soon as you exchange a single packet, the IP is visible
[20:10] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], I can if I watch enough traffic and know the topology enough
[20:10] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, you see the ip of everyone directly connected to you
[20:10] <Clouseau_> then the NSA could send fake users
[20:11] <Clouseau_> so now i understand why terrorists wouldnt use it
[20:11] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, no, you can say, with a good chance its a specific ip or person, but hard to get 100%
[20:11] <jroysdon> If I'm the NSA and have a connect (via the bots in #freenet-refs) to each new person, I can see all requests and get a really good idea of what is going on
[20:11] <Clouseau_> yes
[20:11] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], I can if I have the ability to sniff all traffic to/from your node at your ISP level, and all the nodes you peer with
[20:11] <EMPured> but aim of this project is no censorship etc. and a fake user cant remove anything from freenet
[20:12] <EMPured> or do his censorship, no way
[20:12] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, the traffic is encrypted, you would have to own all nodes i am connected to
[20:12] <bgmmeee> Tommy[D]: It totally worked - thanks mate!
[20:12] <jroysdon> The only way to have a secure freenet is for everyone to really know the friends they are connected to - no anonymous people allowed in
[20:12] <Clouseau_> i mean the NSA could send agents to investigate undercover
[20:12] <Tommy[D]> bgmmeee, your welcome :)
[20:12] <Clouseau_> they only pretend to be some normal user
[20:12] <jroysdon> (it doesn't mean you have to know your friends' friends, if you trust your friends judgement)
[20:12] <Aldof66612> all i can do is wish nsa luck for searching the needle in the gigantic haystack
[20:12] <EMPured> Tommy[D] thats like WLAN, if i sit long enough with a notebook near your AccessPoint, a special program would tell me probably the WEP key
[20:12] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], no, I only have to own a large part of freenet
[20:13] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, yes, if you have only trusted connections, it is much more secure for you, Opennet and connecting to unknow strangers is only a workaround if you dont know trusted people
[20:13] <Clouseau_> if the log all traffic and find algorithms to trace back peoples activities
[20:14] <Clouseau_> they only need lots of data
[20:14] <jroysdon> Clouseau_, exactly
[20:14] <Tommy[D]> no
[20:14] <Tommy[D]> EMPured, use wpa2 and thats not possible within time ;)
[20:14] <Clouseau_> unless there is a dynamic encryption system that is able to hide the IP addresses
[20:15] <jroysdon> Use WEP/WPA + ssh to proxy all your traffic - even when they get the wireless key they have useless data (ssh)
[20:15] <Tommy[D]> and jroysdon at isp level you can only see to who i am connected, not the content of the traffic as every content is encrypted
[20:15] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], but I can see the traffic flow
[20:15] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, yes, but not the content
[20:15] <jroysdon> If I can watch enough places (not even have nodes in the freenet network), I know what is going on
[20:15] <jroysdon> But I can see the content by just having nodes in the network
[20:15] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, you will never be able to hide that you have traffic....
[20:15] <jroysdon> (to get the refs requested, then I can request them myself)
[20:16] <jroysdon> But if I know your traffic, and I know what you request, I know what you're doing
[20:16] <EMPured> its like a street, called internet, with many cars all with darkened windows :D
[20:16] <Clouseau_> i guess the big problem of freenet is that you have to trust your 'friends'
[20:16] <jroysdon> The only way around it is to encrypt your payload itself
[20:16] <Clouseau_> but who is a friend and who is not?
[20:16] <EMPured> everyone sees the cars but noone whos inside
[20:16] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, no, you only see my encrypted traffic, not the content, you dont know what i do or request
[20:17] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], I can see the keys that you request if I have nodes connected to you or very near you, no?
[20:17] <Aldof66612> well you don't know if the request came from your peer in question OR one of it's peers
[20:17] <Clouseau_> so for normale non-terrorist people its a good thing
[20:17] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, to be able to see my traffic content, you have to own all my nodes
[20:17] <jroysdon> Aldof66612, I do if I watch enough node traffic and have enough nodes *in* the network
[20:17] <jroysdon> I don't have to own all your nodes, just a large chunk of the nodes in the network
[20:18] <Clouseau_> because all the companies who are interested in collecting data from you in order to make advertising profiles or trade with your consumer data
[20:18] <Clouseau_> ....
[20:18] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, if you dont own all my nodes, you only get some keys....and also get some key requests i do for other nodes, so you cannot say which are from me
[20:18] <jroysdon> That's really hard for "big brother" to have 1000s of freenet nodes, isn't it... no, it's not
[20:18] <Clouseau_> they cannot get anything out of encrypted data
[20:19] <EMPured> so what do you guess, how many users does freenet have?
[20:19] <Clouseau_> i think, in case of criminal investigations the government could easily have hundres of employees as 'fake nodes'
[20:19] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, perhaps first read the concept of freenet....it is not that easy ;-)
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[20:19] <Aldof66612> they have to surround the target node COMPLETELY to succeed
[20:19] <EMPured> the government doesnt need employees, Clouseau, it needs only multiple physical IPs
[20:19] <Aldof66612> to be absolutely certain, i think
[20:19] <jroysdon> only to have a 100% centaintly what that node is doing
[20:19] <EMPured> then create many nodes for every IP and thats it
[20:19] <Tommy[D]> thats right, Aldof66612
[20:20] <jroysdon> do you think the NSA has to be 100% certain what you're doing to take a closer look?
[20:20] <EMPured> they see you right now through the window with a giant telescope in space
[20:20] <EMPured> no shit! :D
[20:20] <jroysdon> how do you know your keyboard doesn't have a keylogger in it? are you with it 24/7?
[20:20] <Clouseau_> i think the NSA is not interested in normal people
[20:20] <Clouseau_> they look for terrors
[20:20] <jroysdon> Clouseau_, just the ones doing the wrong thing. They don't care about pirates
[20:20] <Aldof66612> that's called paranoia ;)
[20:20] <jroysdon> Clouseau_, have you seen the definition of terrorist?
[20:21] <Aldof66612> tell me about it
[20:21] <jroysdon> Terrorists are anyone against the government that they disagree with
[20:21] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, if you are that paranoid, perhaps leave this live, its not secure and it will never be 100% secure ;-)
[20:21] <Clouseau_> mhhh
[20:21] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], right, that's my point. It's not even 95% secure
[20:21] <Clouseau_> so you think they could torture me in 20 years or so, because i said something against the government
[20:21] <EMPured> thats a rebelist jroysdon
[20:22] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, how do you want to get my traffic if i dont accept you as a peer? ;-)
[20:22] <jroysdon> Anyway, it's a cool concept. For what I want to use it for, it'll work.
[20:22] <Clouseau_> maybe because political circumstances changed and then 20 years later they use the collected data against you
[20:22] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], you know 100% of your "friends" IRL and totally trust them?
[20:22] <EMPured> exchanging porns? O.O
[20:22] <jroysdon> Tommy[D], how do you know none of their PCs have been compromised?
[20:22] <Aldof66612> use linux PC - lotsa harder to compromise ;)
[20:22] <jroysdon> EMPured, actually, to transmit underground Christian church info with places like China
[20:23] <Clouseau_> for me, freenet is interesting for filesharing
[20:23] <Clouseau_> but is it big enough?
[20:23] <Clouseau_> how many users use freenet for filesharing?
[20:23] <jroysdon> I think filesharing is one of the big problems with freenet's speed
[20:23] <Clouseau_> and can you do a search on freenet?
[20:23] <jroysdon> Too much large junk floating around slowing it all down.
[20:23] <Aldof66612> yeah
[20:24] <EMPured> is freenet really meant to do filesharing??
[20:24] <Tommy[D]> jroysdon, if i would be paranoid, i would only connect to trusted friends and if some of them get compromised, its no problem if not all get compromised
[20:24] <Clouseau_> are there any freenet clients for filesharing? or is it all among 'node friends' only???
[20:24] <Clouseau_> oh, and when you see the IP at last
[20:24] <jroysdon> ok, time to jam, talk to you all later
[20:24] <EMPured> no that not, but its slow Clouseau
[20:24] <Tommy[D]> and btw i only test freenet, do some error searching, help improving it and have some fun with it....
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[20:24] <Clouseau_> then the big problem again
[20:24] <Aldof66612> thanks for your views
[20:25] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, try frost or thaw
[20:25] <Clouseau_> the music industry could employ some people as fake nodes
[20:25] <EMPured> and then?
[20:25] <EMPured> who cares
[20:25] <EMPured> they cant do anything about it as long as they dont spam thousends of nodes
[20:25] <Clouseau_> well they could see what you offer for download
[20:25] <EMPured> and even then, even then its just like a normal filesharing client
[20:25] <Clouseau_> but you are right
[20:25] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, you see the ip of every node you are directly connected to from the beginning till the end of the connection
[20:26] <Clouseau_> it would be too much effort for mass collecting IPs
[20:26] <Aldof66612> i think music industry is tied to P2P networks where tracking illegal activities is much easier
[20:26] <EMPured> so why dont they just fuck the common filesharing users instead of this masquerade here? :D
[20:26] <EMPured> exactly Clouseau_
[20:26] <Clouseau_> because they would have to do it all 1-to-1
[20:26] <Clouseau_> whereas the normal filesharing networks as emule are a piece of cake for mass collecting
[20:26] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, no, they cant, thats the point for freenet: they cant say someone does offer something (until you drop your anonymity and tell them ;-) )
[20:27] <Clouseau_> but your IP?
[20:27] <EMPured> no
[20:27] <EMPured> only your node knows you
[20:27] <Clouseau_> thats the point
[20:27] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, your ip is not bind to the content you trade
[20:27] <Clouseau_> what if my 'friend node' is from the music industry?
[20:27] <EMPured> if your node shares your content further, the next node doesnt know you anymore, it only knows your first node
[20:27] <Clouseau_> so it is a cascade?
[20:28] <EMPured> yes, as far as i know
[20:28] <EMPured> randomly dropped content on users HDs
[20:28] <Clouseau_> ok, but the node next to me could know my IP
[20:28] <Tommy[D]> Clouseau_, if a bad guy is directly connected to you, he could say, that you do something with a good chance, but he cannot proove it, no chance for 100%
[20:28] <EMPured> it does actually
[20:28] <Aldof66612> can you see what's stored on your own computer's datastore?
[20:28] <EMPured> the normal user cant
[20:28] <Tommy[D]> Aldof66612, no, its ecrypted
[20:28] <Aldof66612> by what?
[20:29] <Aldof66612> content header keys that are not stoerd on your computer?
[20:30] <Tommy[D]> i dont know the details
[20:30] <Tommy[D]> but to get the content, you need the key
[20:31] <Tommy[D]> so you can use a key and test, if the content for that key is in your store
[20:31] <Aldof66612> so only way to see what's on my datastore would be to try every key from freenet against my own node, am I right?
[20:31] <Tommy[D]> but nothing more
[20:31] <Tommy[D]> yes, as far as i know
[20:31] <Aldof66612> kinda like trying to crack one-way hash like MD5 or SHA
[20:32] <Aldof66612> by brute force method
[20:32] <EMPured> more or less
[20:33] <EMPured> just that you already have a bunch of keys
[20:33] <EMPured> what use would it have to see the content stored on your HD?
[20:33] <EMPured> changing it would also change the unique ID/Hash, wouldn't it?
[20:33] <Tommy[D]> you could censor the content
[20:34] <EMPured> but that would change the hash and it would be identified as new content O.o
[20:34] <Tommy[D]> also it will be on more than only your store so its not really usefull
[20:34] <EMPured> ye
[20:34] <Aldof66612> yeah
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[21:56] -ChanServ- [#freenet] Welcome to the official Freenet support channel! Read the channel topic for more information!
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[22:16] <nextgens> so, what about releasing ?
[22:16] * nextgens thinks it's time
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[22:17] <Tommy[D]> what about a warning or question about downloading plugins?
[22:17] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> what do you mean ?
[22:18] <Tommy[D]> if you select a plugin and it is not in your plugin dir, it is downloaded from freenetmirror, right?
[22:20] <nextgens> yes, and ?
[22:21] <nextgens> we wrote: "These plugins are hosted on servers of The Freenet Project. "
[22:21] <nextgens> isn't it clear that they are gonna be downloaded from them ?
[22:24] <Tommy[D]> hm, should be enough, also there will be some people who want an extra warning about the download because of the direct, unencrypted and nonanonymous connection
[22:24] <nextgens> ok, fixed
[22:24] * nextgens is gonna release
[22:26] <Tommy[D]> ok, so i will test it after the release build and after that hopefully be able to remove the workaround code for my ebuilds
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[22:27] <caytchen> hello, anybode knows why i'm getting the error that the wrapper can't find the java command, yet the jre-dir (D:\Programme\Java\jre1.6.0_03\bin) is definetly in the PATH?
[22:28] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> tell me asap if I can insert it
[22:32] <Tommy[D]> ouch
[22:32] <nextgens> ?
[22:32] <Aldof66612> so what's new with 1072?
[22:32] <Tommy[D]> hat an NPE
[22:33] <nextgens> where/when ?
[22:33] <nextgens> Aldof66612> bugfixes
[22:33] <Tommy[D]> 1 sec, will nopaste the wrapper.log
[22:34] <nextgens> and well, if you could test the build when I ask for testing, *before* I release, that would be much appreciated
[22:34] <nextgens> I doubt that I've introduced any bug in the last row of commits
[22:34] <Tommy[D]> http://rafb.net/p/s22x9L79.html
[22:35] <nextgens> here's something else :|
[22:35] <nextgens> you complained about binding the port... I've fixed that
[22:35] <Tommy[D]> i tested r15741, did not think the last commits would brake anything
[22:36] <caytchen> when my JRE worked (that was before i installed the latest from the java site) i got that same error with the protocol family
[22:36] <Tommy[D]> seems like fcp does not work with the ipv6 address, one user had it with r15742 too
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[22:38] <nextgens> I can't debug it if I can't reproduce it
[22:38] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> you've svn access, right ?
[22:38] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, yes
[22:38] <nextgens> edit line 122 in FCPServer.java
[22:39] <nextgens> (freenet.node.fcp.FCPServer)
[22:39] <nextgens> and add be.printStackTrace();
[22:39] <nextgens> then build the node, start it up ... and pastebin your wrapper.log
[22:40] <Tommy[D]> before Logger.error?
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[22:43] <nextgens> or grab what I've just commited
[22:44] <nextgens> r15750
[22:47] <caytchen> and now r15751
[22:47] <caytchen> :o
[22:48] <nextgens> caytchen> you users aren't ever happy with what you get
[22:48] <nextgens> you complain of both the lack of progress and the frequence of commits
[22:48] <nextgens> do you even know what you want ?
[22:48] <caytchen> never complained :|
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[22:56] <caytchen> even more, r15751 actually fixes the fcp binding stuff, thank you very much :)
[22:57] <Tommy[D]> caytchen, cant wait till your node autoupdates? :)
[22:58] <caytchen> it would never autoupdate because of the exception thrown during the port-binding, leading to the interruption of starting process and therefore termination of the wrapper ;)
[22:59] <Tommy[D]> use your running node and dont have that much problems? ;)
[22:59] <nextgens> caytchen> 1072 won't be inserted
[23:00] <nextgens> but I'm gonna insert 1073
[23:01] <caytchen> so nodes probably won't accept connecting with me, well i can live with that :)
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[23:03] <caytchen> with 1073 being the latest stable, i even save time needed to update it myself. :D
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[23:27] <EMPured> OH OH OH
[23:27] <EMPured> :D
[23:27] <EMPured> where is this new release
[23:27] <EMPured> gimme gimme gimme!!!
[23:28] <EMPured> oh now its happening something
[23:29] <Tommy[D]> o_O
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[23:30] <EMPured> dam
[23:30] <EMPured> it still doesnt work
[23:31] <n3rdboi> Hi, is this the right channel for n00b questions?
[23:31] <Tommy[D]> if they are freenet related, possible
[23:32] <Tommy[D]> EMPured, does not work is no good error description, logs or something similar would be nice ;)
[23:33] <n3rdboi> Anybody got any interesting freenet links that are not illegal / immoral / gross?
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[23:34] <Tommy[D]> interesting depends on your interests which i dont know ;)
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[23:49] <Tommy[D]> n3rdboi, you could use the bookmarks for a starting point
[23:51] <n3rdboi> I have been looking. Nothing seems very compelling. Just pr0n. And the index is from July!
[23:54] <Tommy[D]> n3rdboi, tried AnotherIndex? Seems to be updated just some hours ago
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