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IRC Log for 2007-11-07

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[2:08] <xarkas> hi again
[2:09] <xarkas> anybody here?
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[16:46] <illoreilly> oh hai!
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[16:46] <illoreilly> yo
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[16:46] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[16:47] <illoreilly> so...who's got a waffle.fm invite that i can do tricks to get from them? ^_^
[16:54] <vesath> waffle.fm isn't good... http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/2007/11/and-now-in-interest-of-equal-time-here.html
[16:55] <illoreilly> word?
[16:55] <illoreilly> but the word on the street is that its the place to be
[16:56] <vesath> i trust the old OiNK's staff to judge that
[16:57] <illoreilly> yea... after rtfa...its not looking good
[16:58] <vesath> you can have a stmusic account without invite (today is the last day; from tomorrow on, you'll need an invite) and try that...
[16:58] <illoreilly> oh, i'm already all over that
[16:58] <illoreilly> ratio looking good....
[16:58] <illoreilly> just don't want all my eggs in one basket again
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[17:00] <vesath> i understand that... i'd like to try what.cd as well
[17:01] <illoreilly> word on the street is thats decent too...found any blogs dissing what.cd yet?
[17:03] <vesath> nope... but i haven't digged into that very much yet
[17:05] <illoreilly> well...who do i have to felate to get into what.cd?
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[18:29] <lamer777> can someone answer a question about frost for me?
[18:30] <NEOatNHNG> let's hear the question and we'll see
[18:30] <lamer777> thanks, why isn't frost uploading messages for me anymore?
[18:30] <lamer777> It used to tak a few mins, not Ive been waiting 2 days
[18:31] <lamer777> *now not *not
[18:31] <NEOatNHNG> your node is connected and you are able to fetch freesites etc.?
[18:31] <lamer777> yes
[18:32] <lamer777> that brings me to another question can you dl whole freesites for later viewing?
[18:40] <lamer777> I guess you dont know?
[18:40] <NEOatNHNG> I think you can preload freesites just as any other websites, but I have no clue why your Frost doesn't insert new messages
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[18:46] <Ratchet> Zothar_Work: I updated the issue 1848 with the crashing freesitemgr with new insights :-)
[18:46] <Ratchet> Zothar_Work: perhaps this isn't limited to freebsd systems. more info in the bugtracker
[18:47] <Zothar_Work> Ratchet: OK; maybe I'll take a look in the next few days
[18:47] <Zothar_Work> thanks for keeping the bug updated with the latest available info
[18:47] <Ratchet> ok
[18:51] <lamer777> Thanks NEO I'll use thaw for now to post messages
[18:51] <lamer777> Can I ask how I would preload the freesite?
[18:52] <NEOatNHNG> which OS/Browser
[18:52] <NEOatNHNG> ?
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[18:53] <lamer777> firefox on xp
[18:54] <NEOatNHNG> you can save the the site you're on with File->Save site as
[18:54] <lamer777> thanks, so frost should just upload the messages on it's own without me having to intervene?
[18:55] <NEOatNHNG> yes
[18:55] <NEOatNHNG> you just have to have the node connected and running
[18:58] <NEOatNHNG> you can check the state of the sending process in the status bar in the field TOFUP
[18:59] <lamer777> Thanks again!
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[20:37] <lamer7777> why do messages I post in frost stay in a waiting state for so long before being uploaded?
[20:38] <Ratchet> I think you have to update the board you post them to
[20:38] <Ratchet> that behaviour was different the last time i checked out frost
[20:39] <lamer7777> ok ty i'll try now
[20:43] <Ratchet> is there a limit to how big a single freesite can get? without images. just plain html
[20:46] <saces> the compressed one can not exceed the maxfile limit (2G?)
[20:47] <Ratchet> does freesitemgr compress it if needed?
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[20:48] <xarks> hello
[20:48] <saces> the node does it.
[20:48] <Ratchet> ah, ok. thanks
[20:48] <NEOatNHNG> hi
[20:48] <saces> hello.
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[21:08] <lamer7777> I managed to send one more message using frost but still have many waiting, I even cancelled dl's just in case
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[21:10] <lamer7777> oh! 2 more just started!
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[21:24] <xarks> what i have to do to start freenet with jamvm but no wrapper
[21:24] <xarks> ?
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[21:48] <xarks> anybody here?
[21:48] <Ratchet> sorry, don't know how to help :-)
[21:49] <Ratchet> my wrapper isn't working, too. but i just start run.sh and it works in the foreground wihtout wrapper
[21:49] <xarks> oh..thanks for the tip.
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[22:04] <xarks> hmm
[22:04] <xarks> could not start it even without wrapper...
[22:04] <xarks> i think the vm is the problem
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[22:05] <NEOatNHNG> are you using _sun_ java?
[22:06] <Ratchet> there has to be a way to call the java bin directly?
[22:06] <Ratchet> without wrapper
[22:06] <Ratchet> I never cared because it starts up for me fine in the foreground without wrapper
[22:07] <xarks> hmm
[22:07] <xarks> yeah but i get a error while starting
[22:07] <xarks> is nobody of the defs online?
[22:07] <Ratchet> what version of java does the jamvm provide?
[22:07] <Ratchet> I'm on a sun java 1.5
[22:09] <xarks> JamVM version 1.5.0
[22:09] <xarks> Execution Engine: direct-threaded interpreter with stack-caching
[22:09] <xarks> Compiled with: gcc 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2)
[22:09] <xarks> Boot Library Path: /opt/lib/classpath
[22:09] <xarks> Boot Class Path: /opt/share/jamvm/classes.zip:/opt/share/classpath/glibj.zip
[22:10] <Ratchet> what's the error you get?
[22:10] <NEOatNHNG> I don't know JamVM but I'm almost shure it causes the problem
[22:10] <Ratchet> me too :-)
[22:11] <xarks> Let's start the node without the wrapper, you'll have to daemonize it yourself.
[22:11] <NEOatNHNG> please consider using the sun java vm as it's the officially suppurted one
[22:11] <xarks> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter
[22:11] <xarks> <<No stacktrace available>>
[22:11] <xarks> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: freenet.node.NodeStarter not found in java.lang.ClassLoader$1{urls=[file:/share/.home/xarks/freenet/freenet-ext.jar,file:/share/.home/xarks/freenet/freenet.jar], parent=null}
[22:11] <xarks> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:529)
[22:11] <xarks> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:341)
[22:11] <xarks> at java.lang.ClassLoader$1.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:1112)
[22:11] <xarks> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:293)
[22:11] <xarks> yeah i know but there is no for arm-processors...
[22:12] <NEOatNHNG> if you don't want to there is a howto about using gjc a open vm
[22:12] <nextgens> xarks> your freenet.jar file is corrupted
[22:12] <nextgens> redownload it
[22:12] <xarks> sure?
[22:12] <nextgens> yes
[22:12] <xarks> have you a url for me?
[22:12] <nextgens> execute ./bin/update.sh
[22:12] <nextgens> ./bin/update.sh testing
[22:12] <nextgens> even
[22:13] <xarks> Fetching update.sh
[22:13] <xarks> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Native library `javanet' not found (as file `libjavanet.so') in gnu.classpath.boot.library.path and java.library.path
[22:13] <xarks> at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary(Runtime.java:763)
[22:13] <xarks> at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:662)
[22:13] <nextgens> and btw, don't paste your traces here if they are bigger than a few lines
[22:13] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.VMPlainSocketImpl.<clinit>(VMPlainSocketImpl.java:73)
[22:13] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.PlainSocketImpl.<init>(PlainSocketImpl.java:129)
[22:13] <xarks> at java.net.Socket.<init>(Socket.java:120)
[22:13] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.HTTPConnection.getSocket(HTTPConnection.java:710)
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[22:14] <Ratchet> wtf
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[22:14] <xarks> ok.
[22:14] <nextgens> flooding the main channel is anti-social
[22:14] <xarks> sorry ;)
[22:14] <nextgens> hmm
[22:14] <Ratchet> yeah, it's crowded like hell here
[22:15] <nextgens> your second trace seems to indicate that your jvm hasn't been set up properly
[22:15] <nextgens> it's not freenet-related nor specific
[22:15] <xarks> sorry, but i need to run freenet on that device because i run a freemail-to-mail gateway
[22:15] <nextgens> get libjavanet.so as it tells you to :)
[22:16] <xarks> ok
[22:16] <Ratchet> that "device" doesn't support a propper javavm? :-)
[22:16] <nextgens> bbiab
[22:17] <xarks> its a network storage with arm 400 mhz and 256 ram and 1 tb space
[22:17] <xarks> no, only some jamvm...
[22:17] <Ratchet> os?
[22:17] <xarks> linux
[22:17] <Ratchet> a linux distribtion with nothing but jamvm?
[22:18] <xarks> Fetching update.sh
[22:18] <xarks> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Native library `javanet' not found (as file `libjavanet.so') in gnu.classpath.boot.library.path and java.library.path
[22:18] <Ratchet> most distris support more than one vm. even in parallel
[22:18] <xarks> at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary(Runtime.java:763)
[22:18] <xarks> at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java:662)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.VMPlainSocketImpl.<clinit>(VMPlainSocketImpl.java:73)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.PlainSocketImpl.<init>(PlainSocketImpl.java:129)
[22:18] <xarks> at java.net.Socket.<init>(Socket.java:120)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.HTTPConnection.getSocket(HTTPConnection.java:710)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.HTTPConnection.getOutputStream(HTTPConnection.java:800)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.Request.dispatch(Request.java:291)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.HTTPURLConnection.connect(HTTPURLConnection.java:219)
[22:18] <xarks> at gnu.java.net.protocol.http.HTTPURLConnection.getInputStream(HTTPURLConnection.java:488)
[22:18] <xarks> at java.net.URL.openStream(URL.java:737)
[22:19] <xarks> at Sha1Test.get(Unknown Source)
[22:19] <xarks> at Sha1Test.main(Unknown Source)
[22:19] <xarks> Could not download new update.sh.
[22:19] <xarks> shit..
[22:19] <xarks> sorry
[22:19] <xarks> pasted the wrong thing..
[22:19] <xarks> no its a programmed firmware
[22:19] <xarks> no distro
[22:19] <xarks> Linux version 2.6.12.6-arm1
[22:19] <saces> do you have a sdk for this box?
[22:20] <xarks> yes
[22:20] <xarks> btw there is a package-manager were the following package is:
[22:20] <xarks> jikes - 1.22-1 - IBM java compiler
[22:20] <xarks> classpath 0.96 is also installed
[22:21] <xarks> i crosscompile the programs if they are not in the feed
[22:22] <saces> crossbuild java 1.7 ;)
[22:22] <Ratchet> arm :-)
[22:22] <xarks> suns?
[22:23] <saces> the opensdk, yes
[22:23] <xarks> there is one?
[22:23] <xarks> have you an url or something?
[22:25] <saces> http://openjdk.java.net/
[22:26] <xarks> ok will try it
[22:26] <saces> but I think there is only a minor chance to get it build.
[22:27] <xarks> why?
[22:28] <saces> your target platform.
[22:28] <xarks> hm..
[22:29] <xarks> ok will it try
[22:33] <NEOatNHNG> on the jamVM site it says jamVM=java2 so there may be another problem
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[22:39] <Pichu0102> How does the current 0.7 implementation of Opennet exchange peers with one another? Is it currently manual only?
[22:40] <NEOatNHNG> if you already have a connection with one or more peers (darknet or opennet) it will fetch new ones by itself
[22:41] <NEOatNHNG> xarks, if you still want to just try without the wrapper (although i don't think it's the problem) the commend is "java -cp freenet-ext.jar:freenet.jar freenet.node.NodeStarter"
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[23:04] <nextgens> xarks> grab http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r15696-snapshot.jar and rename it to freenet.jar
[23:04] <nextgens> that should work
[23:04] <nextgens> I didn't realize that your trace is specific to the updater
[23:11] <saces> I guess the libjavanet.so is required by the node too.
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[23:17] <xarks> ok, but it did not work, will try tommorrow a new vm
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[23:27] <Pichu0102> Is there any way to stop fproxy from complaining about running in hybrid mode?
[23:28] <NEOatNHNG> i guess no
[23:28] <Pichu0102> hmm...
[23:29] <NEOatNHNG> the hybrid mode is considered insecure, its just for the first couple of days you're tryin freenet and don't want to trade 2k refs
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