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[10:48] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[10:54] <mazzanet> win 22
[10:54] <mazzanet> bah
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[11:16] <PrototypeX29A> what do plugins do?
[11:17] <PrototypeX29A> can i write a plugin with new toadlets, which display additional stuff as a webpage?
[11:30] <PrototypeX29A> another question: I set "IP adress override" to a dyndns-adress, will this appear on other peoples friends-list or do they only remember the ip which i had the time i was added?
[11:31] <PrototypeX29A> in my friends list there are only numbers, no names
[11:31] <PrototypeX29A> (in the adress column)
[11:32] <nextgens> [11:16] < PrototypeX2> | what do plugins do?
[11:32] <nextgens> provide additionnal features
[11:32] <nextgens> [11:17] < PrototypeX2> | can i write a plugin with new toadlets, which display additional stuff as a webpage?
[11:32] <nextgens> yes
[11:32] <nextgens> hmmm
[11:32] <nextgens> they can get your fqdn anyway
[11:33] <nextgens> I don't remember if we display the resolved version or not on the darknet page
[11:33] <PrototypeX29A> even if it is dyndns?
[11:33] <nextgens> in any case they do have the name
[11:33] <nextgens> yes
[11:33] <nextgens> it might not be displayed but they can find it out
[11:34] <nextgens> iirc it's not displayed once connected (replaced by the ip)
[11:34] <PrototypeX29A> my disconnected friends are shown with an ip too
[11:35] <PrototypeX29A> i just was wondering, whether dyndns does help or not
[11:35] <nextgens> and don't you have their fqdn in the peer-xxxx file ?
[11:35] <nextgens> it helps
[11:35] <nextgens> hmm
[11:35] <nextgens> I gtg, bbiab
[11:37] <PrototypeX29A> you are right, in the peer-file there are names
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[14:39] <n0ooby> I installed freenet in windows and now I'm trying to make it run under linux, I downloaded run.sh and update.sh, double-checked that jre was sun java6, set all the permission for the Freenet partition etc
[14:40] <n0ooby> when I use run.sh start the output appears in the terminal
[14:40] <n0ooby> I get among other things
[14:40] <n0ooby> n0ooby
[14:41] <n0ooby> Your system appears to be running a Sun JVM with NPTL.
[14:41] <n0ooby> follows an explanation about how to fix that but it is too much for me, I tried to edit run.sh but I couldn't get it right
[14:42] <n0ooby> freenet does start and stay up, looks like
[14:47] <n0ooby> most peers appear to be connected/backed off, and the bandwidth is round 20KB/s in each direction without any UL/DL in progress, so I guess it is working pretty fine, except for that NPTL thing
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[15:08] <saces> n0ooby: look for an "ASSUME_KERNEL" setting in run.sh and comment it out. then try to start the node.
[15:10] <n0ooby> saces, that's what I did, it told me
[15:10] <n0ooby> if [[ unexpected
[15:11] <n0ooby> but I had uncommented the whole section
[15:11] <n0ooby> you mean just that one line, right?
[15:12] <n0ooby> ok, I did that.
[15:12] <n0ooby> restarted, and got the same warning
[15:12] <n0ooby> :(
[15:13] <n0ooby> unceommented line:
[15:13] <n0ooby> LDPROP="set.LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1"
[15:15] <n0ooby> oh
[15:15] <n0ooby> you said comment it out. It was already commected it out.
[15:16] <n0ooby> I tried uncommenting it but that didn't change anything.
[15:16] <n0ooby> I'm commenting it out agai9n.
[15:16] <n0ooby> anything more I could try?
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[15:28] <xmb> yo does the alpha have already many users
[15:33] <Tommy[D]> o_O
[15:33] <Tommy[D]> many in your eyes = ?
[15:33] <xmb> like all the pages working
[15:33] <Tommy[D]> btw, n0ooby some system details?
[15:33] <xmb> where is the freenet source channel
[15:33] <xmb> the propagating
[15:34] <n0ooby> Tommy[D], ubuntu 7.10, sun java6, ext3
[15:34] <Tommy[D]> Which pages working?
[15:34] <Tommy[D]> source channel = ?
[15:34] <n0ooby> Tommy[D], what details you need?
[15:35] <Tommy[D]> n0ooby, 32bit or 64bit? Anything special or standard install?
[15:37] <n0ooby> 32bit standard install
[15:37] <n0ooby> the only special thing is that I installed freenet in windows and now I'm trying to run it off linux
[15:38] <n0ooby> what is NPTL anyway?
[15:40] <n0ooby> set environment variable LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1, this will disable NPTL and ... blah blah blah
[15:41] <n0ooby> I did that but the warning is still there.
[15:41] <n0ooby> maybe I did it wrong
[15:42] <Tommy[D]> did you try "export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1"?
[15:43] <n0ooby> no
[15:43] <n0ooby> I uncommented LDPROP="set.LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1"
[15:43] <n0ooby> and I also try uncommenting that whole section from the first if to the last fi
[15:44] <n0ooby> should I append that line at the end of the script, or insert it somewhere?
[15:44] <n0ooby> export etc
[15:45] <n0ooby> LDPROP="set.LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1" ?
[15:46] <Tommy[D]> something about nptl, not really hard to find ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_POSIX_Thread_Library
[15:47] <n0ooby> I'm gonna try but it gets a whole lot harder when you don't really know what you're doing
[15:49] <n0ooby> OK, so NPTL is Native POSIX Thread Library
[15:49] <n0ooby> cool
[15:51] <n0ooby> woah
[15:51] <n0ooby> I tried export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
[15:51] <n0ooby> and the node started without wrapper
[15:51] <n0ooby> output:
[15:51] <n0ooby> Starting Freenet 0.7...
[15:51] <n0ooby> -e
[15:51] <n0ooby> Let's start the node without the wrapper, you'll have to daemonize it yourself.
[15:51] <n0ooby> java: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:52] <Tommy[D]> nopaste for output please
[15:52] <n0ooby> I left the big part out
[15:52] <n0ooby> I wouldn't paste big outputs, there are pastbins for that
[15:53] <n0ooby> anyway
[15:53] <n0ooby> it started without wrapper and it couldn't stay up
[15:54] <saces> may install pthread libraries will fix you prob?
[15:54] <n0ooby> trying
[15:56] <n0ooby> nope
[15:56] <n0ooby> prob still there
[15:56] <n0ooby> I wonder if I installed the right stuff
[15:59] <saces> is the lib installed? if so, a file "/lib/libpthread-2.5.so" should exist
[15:59] <n0ooby> libpthread-stubs0 was all I could find in my repos searching for pthread
[15:59] <n0ooby> looking for that file
[16:00] <n0ooby> seems not to be there
[16:01] <saces> look what is in libpthread-stubs0?
[16:02] <n0ooby> where should it be? in /lib?
[16:03] <n0ooby> /usr/lib?
[16:04] <saces> on my box its in /lib.
[16:04] <saces> what's the name of your umbuntu?
[16:04] <saces> -m
[16:04] <n0ooby> Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon, release candidate
[16:05] <n0ooby> if that was you meant to ask
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[16:06] <n0ooby> synaptic says that libpthread-stubs0 is installed but file search can't find any libpthread-2.5.so or libpthread-stubs0 in /lib
[16:07] <n0ooby> I don't think that's the problem though
[16:08] <saces> I look at the website....
[16:08] <Tommy[D]> that -stubs0 is something for x and not related to this problem
[16:08] <n0ooby> I tried to run new-installer.jar
[16:08] <n0ooby> and it created a new freenet dir
[16:08] <n0ooby> and freenet ran without problems from there
[16:08] <Tommy[D]> Why dont you use stable Ubuntu, 7.04?
[16:08] <n0ooby> the problem is only when I try to run the install that I made under windows
[16:09] <n0ooby> Tommy[D], this is pretty stable even if not 'officially' stable yet, will be released in a couple of days
[16:10] <Tommy[D]> did you try rename/remove freenet-ext.jar + freenet-stable-latest.jar and run update.sh ?
[16:10] <n0ooby> ok, I'm trying that now
[16:11] <Tommy[D]> or freenet.jar...which ever it is on your system
[16:11] <n0ooby> riiight
[16:11] <n0ooby> that can be the problem
[16:11] <n0ooby> wait...
[16:12] <n0ooby> no, seems to be OK
[16:13] <n0ooby> trying to rename freenet-ext.jar and freenet-freenet-stable-latest.jar + run update.sh
[16:13] <n0ooby> I was thinking of a possible problem
[16:13] <n0ooby> freenet.jar is supposed to be a shortcut to freenet-stable-latest.jar
[16:13] <n0ooby> now
[16:13] <n0ooby> maybe the freenet.jar shortcut created under windows down't work under linux.
[16:14] <n0ooby> I guess update would fix that, but then I'd have to run update each time aI switch OS
[16:14] <n0ooby> or rename the "wring" freenet.jar according to what OS I'm using.
[16:14] <n0ooby> but let's see if it works first+
[16:16] <n0ooby> "wring" <= meant 'wrong'
[16:17] <n0ooby> problem still there, and freenet.jar wasn't the problem because I renamed it and a new one was created on update
[16:18] <n0ooby> hmmmm
[16:19] <saces> the website says that no file called like "libpthread" exist in gutsy
[16:22] <n0ooby> ok
[16:22] <Bombe> Try "getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION" in a terminal.
[16:23] <n0ooby> NPTL 2.6.1
[16:23] <Bombe> That means that your kernel and glibc already uses NPTL and libpthreads is obsolete and pretty unusable.
[16:23] <n0ooby> ok
[16:24] <n0ooby> so even if freenet compaing about running java with nptl, it can't be actually running that way?
[16:24] <Bombe> I simply ignore the warning because when I set the ASSUME_KERNEL variable stuff java won't even start anymore.
[16:25] <n0ooby> that's what I was thinking. I thought if nptl is unusable, I can ignore the warning about jvm running with it
[16:25] <Tommy[D]> then why didnt i get this warning?
[16:26] <saces> I don't get it to.
[16:26] <n0ooby> you installed under linux
[16:27] <n0ooby> I didn't get the warning either, when I ran the freenet I installed in linux
[16:27] <Tommy[D]> yes, but "installing" is simple copy those jar files into the right dir, that should be the same in linux and windows, shouldnt it?
[16:27] <n0ooby> the problem is about trying to run in linux a freenet installed in windows
[16:27] <n0ooby> probably not exactly the same files
[16:28] <n0ooby> for instance you don't get the linux scripts when you install in windows
[16:28] <nextgens> n0ooby> that's unrelated
[16:29] <n0ooby> ok
[16:29] <nextgens> NPTL had problems with some versions of the jvm
[16:29] <nextgens> if you're using a libc recent enough, you can ignore the warning
[16:30] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, why does he gets this warning and i dont get it?
[16:30] <n0ooby> I guess it's fairly recent, as it's included in a new OS, not even officially released yet
[16:31] <n0ooby> and besides the warning, the node seems to work fine
[16:31] <nextgens> Tommy[D]> because you use an older version of the libc I guess
[16:32] <n0ooby> ok then, I'll simply ignore the warning as long as it keeps working.
[16:32] <Tommy[D]> nextgens, the same as n0ooby: 2.6.1
[16:32] <nextgens> Bombe> hi
[16:33] <nextgens> Bombe> do you have any free time you could dedicate to fixing HTMLNode ?
[16:33] <n0ooby> should the ASSUME_KERNEL line in run.sh be commented out or not?
[16:33] * nextgens would like to release a new build, possibly early next week
[16:34] <Tommy[D]> n0ooby, commented out
[16:34] <n0ooby> k
[16:34] <n0ooby> thanks for helping anyone, I'll be back when I get the next problem
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[16:37] <Bombe> nextgens, yep, I'll finish it tonight.
[16:37] <Bombe> I've extracted some pretty evil regexps from the XML specs and will write a couple of tests accordingly. :)
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[16:40] <PrototypeX29A> re
[16:50] <PrototypeX29A> "The darknet port 62223 / 17 has not been forwarded" <-- what does the 17 mean?
[16:52] <PrototypeX29A> i forwarded udp port 62223 to my computer, but it still gives this message
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[17:22] <n0ooby> Tommy[D], saces, nextgens: looks like I fixed it: I found out what the problem was when I was creating a panel launcher for freenet. In order to check whether the launcher worked, I used ./run.sh status
[17:22] <n0ooby> which gave me the output "Unable to locate any of the following binaries: /sda4/dir/./bin/wrapper-linux-x86-32 /sda4/dir/./bin/wrapper"
[17:23] <n0ooby> so I got those files, copied into the /feenet/bin, started freenet, and it started regularly
[17:23] <n0ooby> without showing the output in the terminal
[17:25] <Tommy[D]> ok, thats a simple solution, which we could hardly find as you did not gave us the hole output ;)
[17:26] <n0ooby> the warning is still there but we said I could ignore it. I thought it was a good thing to report that the windows installer doesn't fetch exactly all the files, maybe it should be modified to allow people to run the same install off different OS's
[17:27] <n0ooby> or at least, the files needed to do that should be made more easy to find on downloads.freenetproject.org. I had to install another copy of freenet in order to get all the files I needed
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[17:28] <n0ooby> Tommy[D], you mean the whole output, or is the 'hole output' something I don't know about?
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[21:05] <Bombe> Nice.
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[21:07] <n0ooby> after a windows session I switched back to linux and that warninhg
[21:07] <n0ooby> is gon
[21:07] <n0ooby> is gone
[21:08] <n0ooby> the problem now is that the node won't work under windows any more. it gives error 1067
[21:08] <n0ooby> I guess I won't run freenet while on windows. After all it's only a couple of hours a day
[21:09] <n0ooby> er
[21:09] <n0ooby> more like 8
[21:10] <n0ooby> it would be cool if I could make it work on both. I can't think of any solution other than setting up two "twin installs" and moving the store back and forth each time I switch OS
[21:16] <n0ooby> ok, I got to go now, I wanted to report that the warning is gone, and that freenet gives error 1067 when I try to launch it from windows. cya next time
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[22:14] <PrototypeX29A> hey
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