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[8:05] <Electrosys> hello.
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[10:01] <RademXosar> Hello everybody.
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[10:05] <sharkp> Hi
[10:05] <sharkp> I use Linux, and I've installed freenet
[10:05] <sharkp> how shall I launch it?
[10:09] <RademXosar> Sorry, can't help you w/ this - not my OS (yet).
[10:10] <sharkp> nevermind
[10:12] <saces> cd into the freenet dir and do "./run.sh start"
[10:13] <sharkp> saces, only that?
[10:13] <Tommy[D]> only that
[10:14] <sharkp> ok
[10:14] <sharkp> shall I do that every times?
[10:16] <sharkp> ok, thanx guys
[10:16] <sharkp> now I'm in freenet-refs
[10:17] <sharkp> I'm trying to swap my ref with bots, but I can't do
[10:17] <sharkp> How shall I do?
[10:22] <phrosty> you may need to register to privmsg them.
[10:23] <sharkp> I'm a registered user
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[11:02] <nextgens> b00z3r> ask your question here
[11:07] <b00z3r> hey nextgens
[11:08] <b00z3r> how do I lower the number of my opennet peers?
[11:09] <b00z3r> when opennet peers number limit got raised to 20, I got the warning "too many connected peerts" becasue my darknet peers+opennet > 30 conected
[11:10] <b00z3r> now, darknet peers are people I 'know' (as you know someone on the internet) while opennet peers are total strangers, I'd rather lower the number of opennet peers than darknet
[11:10] <b00z3r> but jow?
[11:10] <b00z3r> how?
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[11:19] <nextgens> b00z3r> wait for next build to be out
[11:19] <nextgens> it will address that issue
[11:19] <nextgens> ignore the warning for the time beeing
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[11:23] <b00z3r> nextgens: when it's due?
[11:25] <b00z3r> nextgens: well, ok. The problem is on the table, that's all I needed to know. Thanks
[11:26] <nextgens> dunno
[11:26] <nextgens> not before monday
[11:30] <b00z3r> that's tomorrow. I'd be 'really' happy with that :)
[11:31] <b00z3r> anyways, having more than 30 connected for a couple of days isn't a big deal (you just said 'ignore it') so if the fix comes on tuesday or even frideay, it's OK. the important thing is that the problem is being addressed
[11:32] <nextgens> current trunk isn't releasable ...
[11:32] <nextgens> otherwise it would already be fixed
[11:36] <b00z3r> k
[11:37] <b00z3r> that'll be soon then
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[11:39] <b00z3r> do you know how it's fixed? is the total number of connected peers limited to 30 modifying the max opennet peers relative to connected darknet peers? or will opennet peers max limit be manually configurable by the user?
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[11:42] <nextgens> it won't be configurable; it will be relative to the number of darknet peers
[11:49] <b00z3r> cool
[11:49] <b00z3r> the less you leave to the user to configure, the best
[11:49] <b00z3r> (users have a tendence to make messes, you noticed that?)
[11:50] <b00z3r> on the other hand, users on freenet are supposed to know what they're doing...
[11:50] <nextgens> are they ?
[11:51] <b00z3r> but if the point is to get freenet to expand even to non-geek users, then it should do as much as possible automagically
[11:51] <nextgens> instructed people don't use opennet at the first stage :p
[11:52] <nextgens> they might exploit it but wouldn't use it
[11:52] * nextgens goes back to what he was doing
[11:53] <b00z3r> heh
[11:53] <b00z3r> "are supposed" doesn't necessarily mean "they do"
[11:54] <b00z3r> I see lots of people on Frost posting their ref unencrypted right away
[11:57] <b00z3r> k
[11:57] <b00z3r> cya
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[12:32] <FuriousRage> [13:49:19] <b00z3r> the less you leave to the user to configure, the best <-- the other way around are much better
[12:38] <b00z3r> FuriousRage: depends on the users
[12:38] <b00z3r> maybe a dual-intaface would be the best solution
[12:38] <b00z3r> auto <=> manual
[12:39] <FuriousRage> b00z3r: there is advanced and simple settings in the config on the fproxy page which is good for those wo dont like twiddle the config and those to like to make small changes to suit their needs.
[12:40] <b00z3r> yes
[12:40] <b00z3r> hm
[12:41] <b00z3r> maybe making the setting I was talking about auto vs. manual would be aood idea
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[12:41] <b00z3r> but I don't think they will do that. Making it simply auto is easier
[12:42] <FuriousRage> limit the users ability to config the software really could impact negativly in the end
[12:42] <b00z3r> Well
[12:42] <b00z3r> I'm no dev
[12:42] <FuriousRage> sure having 200 config options to "change" might seen overwelming at first, but freenet comes with quite good default values.
[12:44] <b00z3r> is there any manual around for the freenet CLI interface?
[12:44] <FuriousRage> check the wiki, might have, i havent checked it in a long time
[12:45] <b00z3r> I mean, rather than looking for a setting in the fproxy config page, I would do "do-this" in a cli
[12:45] <b00z3r> k
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[14:50] <SilentScream> hi
[14:51] <SilentScream> my installation package of freenet 0.7 is blocked at 7/10 (Spawning up a browser) since 1 hour ! Can anyone help me ?
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[18:20] <Websteria> is there a way to get freenet working on vista x64?
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[18:37] <kryptos23> Websteria > If the installer does not work in vista, then plz post to the support mailing list for details
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[19:05] <Electrosys> hello
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[20:38] <devel_fn> to the admin of the emu server? can you please check why the mailing list archives are not updated?
[20:42] <kryptos23> devel_fn > i am not the moderator but you could try this for more info.. http://archives.freenetproject.org/
[20:49] <devel_fn> ok thank you thats what i was searching for
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[21:34] <stealthspy> question: what would increasing my thread limit do? Would it help the network out if my computer is capable or just overload my node?
[21:34] <stealthspy> my bandwidth is greater of FAR more thouroughput than is being used
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[22:29] <Electrosys> Hello.
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[22:40] <Line0line> hi everyone
[22:41] <Line0line> i m unable to start the freenet service on vista ever since i set EFS
[22:41] <Line0line> anyone ever heard of this problem ?
[22:42] <Line0line> Starting Freenet
[22:42] <Line0line> System error 5 has occurred.
[22:42] <Line0line> Access is denied.
[22:42] <Line0line> Press any key to continue . . .
[22:48] <FuriousRage> you must give the right user access to the files
[22:49] <FuriousRage> http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/it/2006/12/12/vista-special-permissions/
[22:52] <Line0line> freenet user has full access to the freenet folder afaik
[22:52] <Line0line> i ll check that link, thnx!
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[22:56] <Line0line> yeah cant find any more permission to give in the security tab
[23:00] <Line0line> additionnal
[23:00] <Electrosys> is it possible to load the previos log files in Thaw. It shows some interesting information after I uploaded a file but now that I have restarted Thaw that information is gone, can I get it back?
[23:01] <Line0line> file recovery software ? :/
[23:01] <Electrosys> Line0line: maybe you need to check the permissions and ownership on your Freenet files.
[23:02] <Electrosys> Its supposed to set up a user for Freenet.
[23:02] <Electrosys> maybe when Freenet sets that up It dosen't work that great with Vista.
[23:03] <Electrosys> Line0line: I am not up to date on Freenet's Vista compatibility.
[23:03] <Line0line> ok ownership is set on myown account now but it didnt change anything
[23:04] <Electrosys> Do you have a Freenet user account?
[23:04] <Line0line> i didnt restart my computer after install though, but the node was started before, i just stopped the service and encrypted the freenet folder
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[23:04] <Line0line> now i cant restart the service
[23:04] <Electrosys> ahh. its probably the Folder encryption. your Freenet user cannot access it.
[23:05] <Line0line> yes the local user account has been created alright
[23:05] <Line0line> and it has full permissions on the freenet folder
[23:05] <Electrosys> Try it with out your folder encryption.
[23:05] <Electrosys> thats probably what the problem is.
[23:06] <Line0line> yeah i know it works without encryption i m just wondering how to make it work with EFS :P
[23:06] <Electrosys> Im not sure how to implement that type of encryption properly, but that could be the cause of your problem.
[23:06] <Electrosys> Line0line: :^) sorry, I wish I could help.
[23:06] <Line0line> i read a while ago that it was better if the partition freenet is intalled on was encrypted
[23:07] <Line0line> no problem thnx for trying
[23:07] <incapacitated> Line, let me guess: you will have to login to your freenet account and encrypt its files then?
[23:07] <Electrosys> Yea. .. I I think thats true. I haven't implement it though.
[23:08] <Line0line> oh yeah i get it i think
[23:08] <Electrosys> I am having trouble reteriving an image I injected.
[23:08] <Electrosys> I attached a CHK@ to the front of it.
[23:08] <Line0line> incapacitated: you re totally right, thts what i was beginning to trealize
[23:09] <Line0line> coz efs makes a user based certificate
[23:09] <Line0line> haha so stupid
[23:09] <Line0line> thanks a lot
[23:09] <incapacitated> well, you're right on track, then. don't lose the certificate.
[23:09] <Line0line> is there a password for the freenet account ?
[23:10] <Line0line> i ll try runas
[23:10] <FuriousRage> Line0line: check the wrapper.password for the freenet users password.
[23:11] <Line0line> runas /user:freenet cmd
[23:11] <Line0line> Enter the password for freenet:
[23:11] <Line0line> Attempting to start cmd as user "SERVER\freenet" ...
[23:11] <Line0line> RUNAS ERROR: Unable to run - cmd
[23:11] <Line0line> 1326: Logon failure: unknown user name or bad password.
[23:11] <Line0line> cool thnx a bunch
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[23:33] <Electrosys> is it possible to unperge the logfiles in Thaw?
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