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[0:37] <Bombe> Okay, looks like I fixed jSite.
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[4:02] <vincent2008_> anyone exchanging noderefs?
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[7:17] <nextgens> sleon> may you update your node ?
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[8:12] <tpb3333> anyone who can help me with an issue?
[8:13] <tpb3333> (THAW related)
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[8:23] <tpb3333> hi - can anyone help with Thaw?
[8:27] <tpb3333> is anyone there?
[8:29] <tpb3333> hey anyone there?
[8:29] <- *tpb3333* hi - are any ops here?
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[8:43] <TheSeeker> I'm falling asleep, and haven't used thaw lately, but can try to assist. generally it helps to just ask the question instead of asking if it's ok to ask a quetion or waiting for idle people to not be idle. :P
[8:45] <tpb3333> okay - well basically
[8:45] <tpb3333> when I try to open a list from freenet I get
[8:45] <tpb3333> unknown and potentially dangerous content type: application/x-freenet-index
[8:45] <tpb3333> then when I select Click here to open the file as application/x-freenet-index (read warning above!).
[8:46] <tpb3333> it saves a file to disk
[8:46] <tpb3333> that I then can't import to Thaw
[8:46] <tpb3333> any ideas?
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[12:25] <bebers> http://tubeimage.com/viewer.php?file=x7o3ydsiwmvc6pnvqyd3.jpg
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[14:19] <flatblack> Hellow
[14:19] <flatblack> Could I please have some help?
[14:20] <toad_> if you tell us what your problem is we may be able to help
[14:20] <flatblack> I am running OS X and after I install freenet and reboot I cannot get it running again.
[14:20] <toad_> ah :(
[14:20] <toad_> you may have to start it manually
[14:21] <flatblack> The only time i can get it running is after install
[14:21] <flatblack> in the terminal right
[14:21] <nextgens> hmm
[14:21] <nextgens> I need to have a look to that
[14:21] <toad_> i thought it installed it to startup-on-startup?
[14:21] <nextgens> for some reason launchd doesn't support the "old way" of doing it anymore
[14:21] <flatblack> i cant access it from localhost:8888
[14:22] <nextgens> and I didn't ever get hold of a mac running a recent enough macos version
[14:22] <nextgens> flatblack> you need to start the node up ... using a text console
[14:22] <nextgens> go to freenet's directory and do
[14:22] <nextgens> ./run.sh start
[14:23] <flatblack> sorry but how do you change the directory
[14:24] <nextgens> using "cd" ?
[14:26] <flatblack> ok i am up and running but am i going to have to do this every time
[14:27] <toad_> it should be possible to create a shortcut to start the node ..
[14:27] <toad_> i thought we did
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[14:34] <flatblack> well thanks for all your help ill stay in for a while in case you figure it out
[14:35] <toad_> nextgens: any idea re flatblack's problem?
[14:35] <toad_> nextgens: you had a new script iirc, you could get him to test it??
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[14:36] <martimo> hello?
[14:37] <toad_> hello
[14:38] <martimo> i have an problem :(
[14:39] <toad_> what sort of problem?
[14:39] <martimo> firefox can't connect to freenet :(
[14:39] <martimo> i can't get to the wizard
[14:39] <toad_> :|
[14:40] <toad_> you got that far though? it got through the installer?
[14:40] <martimo> in the installer it said it coulnd start something...i don't remember what it was
[14:41] <toad_> :(
[14:41] <toad_> you can't recover that info now?
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[14:41] <martimo> well...i try to install it again...
[14:41] <toad_> it might help to have your wrapper.log
[14:41] <toad_> please pastebin your wrapper.log
[14:42] <martimo> well...its in german :S
[14:42] <toad_> :|
[14:42] <toad_> pastebin it anyway
[14:42] <martimo> ERROR | wrapper | 2007/09/29 16:42:27 | The freenet-darknet-8888-8888-8888 service is not installed - Der angegebene Dienst ist kein installierter Dienst. (0x424)
[14:42] <martimo> this is the error...
[14:43] <martimo> INFO | jvm 1 | 2007/07/04 10:53:52 | Failed to run STUN to server stun.voxgratia.org: java.lang.NullPointerException - trying another, report if persistent
[14:43] <toad_> nextgens: looks like one for you ...
[14:43] <toad_> martimo: http://dark-code.bulix.org/
[14:43] <toad_> martimo: copy your whole wrapper.log file there and post the url here
[14:45] <martimo> Please don't spam the pastebin!
[14:45] <martimo> -.-
[14:45] <toad_> that's just a warning isn't it?
[14:45] <martimo> dont see a url...
[14:45] <toad_> does it let you paste it?
[14:46] <martimo> yep
[14:47] <toad_> ok, show me the url
[14:47] <martimo> the text is too long...
[14:47] <toad_> hmmm :|
[14:47] <toad_> just how big is your wrapper.log ?
[14:47] <martimo> 590 KB
[14:47] <toad_> eeeeeek
[14:47] <toad_> well find some web site to stick it on
[14:48] <toad_> your own web space ideally
[14:48] <martimo> dont have one :S
[14:48] <martimo> http://uploaded.to/?id=yf1oif
[14:50] <toad_> hmmm that site is being a pig
[14:50] <toad_> just email me it and i'll host it :)
[14:50] <toad_> toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
[14:51] <martimo> well...by the way...how do i uninstall freenet?*g*
[14:51] <toad_> :|
[14:52] <martimo> just, because i don't wanna have 20 installs of it...
[14:52] <nextgens> toad_> flatblack's problem is a known issue
[14:52] <nextgens> if I had both a mac an time I would fix it
[14:52] <nextgens> I have neither
[14:53] <toad_> :(
[14:53] <nextgens> toad_> I bet that martimo's problem is one of the plugins preventing the node from starting up
[14:53] <toad_> me neither :(
[14:54] <toad_> nextgens: that is really bizarre if so
[14:54] <toad_> but i'll have a look when i get the log
[14:54] <martimo> so i got it uninstalled...now i install it again...
[14:54] <flatblack> so its not just me
[14:54] <toad_> nextgens: surely the node service isn't supposed to be called freenet-darknet-8888-8888-8888 though?
[14:54] <toad_> nextgens: that suggests an installer bug?
[14:54] <nextgens> it affects everyone having latest MacOS
[14:54] <nextgens> toad_> or resintallations
[14:55] <toad_> flatblack: how many times have you reinstalled the node? :)
[14:55] <toad_> errr
[14:55] <nextgens> the installer tells the user that reinstalling things in the same directory isn't supported
[14:55] <toad_> martimo: how many times have you reinstalled the node? :)
[14:55] <nextgens> ...
[14:55] <martimo> 3 or 4times now
[14:55] <nextgens> and when I was deleting the directory people complained
[14:55] <flatblack> um 1
[14:55] <toad_> people complained about what?
[14:55] <toad_> martimo: ok
[14:55] <flatblack> toad_:i reinstalled 1 time
[14:56] <toad_> martimo: uninstall the node
[14:56] <nextgens> loosing all their data because they selected C:/program files/ insteed of C:/program files/freenet
[14:56] <toad_> martimo: uninstall every copy of the node
[14:56] <toad_> nextgens: oops! :)
[14:56] <nextgens> even though the node was asking for confirmation
[14:56] <martimo> well...i uninstalled it...
[14:56] <nextgens> and *you* got me to change it ;)
[14:56] <toad_> martimo: and?
[14:56] <martimo> i installed it right now again^^
[14:56] <martimo> and it said there is a version of it...
[14:56] <toad_> nextgens: shouldn't it be possible to only delete stuff that belongs to the node?
[14:56] <martimo> but don't know where this shall be
[14:57] <nextgens> not easily
[14:57] <toad_> martimo: you uninstalled it, and it said it was already installed? or what?
[14:57] <nextgens> as we set up 3rd party things in freenet's directory
[14:57] <nextgens> and well, I don't have any time nor will to spend time on the installer
[14:57] <toad_> nextgens: can't we at least remember where we installed it to?
[14:57] <nextgens> especially the windows one
[14:57] <nextgens> we do remember that
[14:57] <martimo> i uninstalled it...installed it again und it said there is a version on the computer and asked me if i wanna install...
[14:57] <toad_> well then i'm gonna have to do it aren't i? :(
[14:58] <martimo> WORKS!
[14:58] <martimo> =D
[14:58] <toad_> martimo: okay, so lets get this straight: you installed it, it broke. you installed it again, to the same directory. it still broke. and so on. right?
[14:58] <martimo> right
[14:59] <martimo> then i finally got it to uninstall...and installed it again...now it works...
[14:59] <toad_> martimo: but this time it worked, so you can't tell us how it broke
[14:59] <martimo> i think the problem was Kaspersky... :S
[14:59] <toad_> martimo: okay, so in between installing it, you tried to uninstall it but failed?
[14:59] <martimo> and then the fact, that i didn't uninstall...
[14:59] <toad_> ah
[14:59] <toad_> hmmm
[14:59] <martimo> i tried to uninstall...but i didn't see that it wanted to use the nokia-java-installer and not my java-.-
[15:00] <toad_> and when it asked you whether you really really really wanted to reinstall over an existin installation .. you told it to go ahead
[15:00] * toad_ wonders what on earth a nokia-java-installer is
[15:00] <martimo> right
[15:01] <martimo> well i don't know its name...but its the installer for games and tools for my nokia^^
[15:01] <toad_> ah
[15:01] <toad_> okay so how did you eventually get it to work?
[15:01] <martimo> sry...i only lerned this f*cking school-english xD
[15:02] <toad_> your school-english is far better than my school-french
[15:02] <martimo> i choosed "open with" and used java for uninstalling...and installed it again...but i disabled Kaspersky^^
[15:02] <toad_> okay.. so it's a conflict with Kaspersky
[15:02] <martimo> yep
[15:03] <toad_> which is an anti-virus program
[15:03] <toad_> not a java game installer ?
[15:03] <martimo> right
[15:03] <toad_> so the game installer is a irrelevant?
[15:04] <toad_> so the game installer is irrelevant?#
[15:04] <toad_> so the game installer is irrelevant?
[15:04] <toad_> even
[15:04] <toad_> sorry
[15:04] <martimo> right
[15:04] <toad_> okay so we can file this under "clashes with anti-viruses"
[15:04] <toad_> that leaves flatblack's problem...
[15:05] <martimo> hehe
[15:05] <flatblack> yup
[15:06] <flatblack> btw toad_ you said somthing about testing
[15:06] <flatblack> i dont mind
[15:06] <toad_> yeah it's just that nextgens has the script and he hasn't deployed it cos he hasn't tested it ... and now he's sulking :)
[15:06] <toad_> nextgens: what would it take to test nico_32's new script? has nico_32 tested it?
[15:07] <nextgens> well, get hold of him
[15:07] <nextgens> that's likely to be the trickiest part
[15:07] <nextgens> no I don't think he tested it either
[15:07] <toad_> ah so you don't actually have the script? :(
[15:07] <nextgens> it might be attacked to a ticket on mantis
[15:07] <nextgens> but no, I didn't keep the mail
[15:08] <toad_> (0001895)
[15:08] <toad_> Florent Daignière (NextGen$)
[15:08] <toad_> 04-28-07 11:20
[15:08] <toad_> it's done for OS/X
[15:09] <toad_> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=1585
[15:09] <toad_> aha
[15:09] <toad_> 0001585: Use launchd instead of StartupItems on Mac OS X
[15:09] <toad_> <Nico_32> http://thenico.fr.eu.org/MacOSX-freenet-installer.sh [^]
[15:10] <toad_> nextgens: found it ... how long to integrate it and build a non-deployed installer using it?
[15:11] <toad_> nextgens: it will automatically use whichever tool is needed for the specific build of OS/X
[15:12] <martimo> mhh...now i just need a node xD
[15:12] <toad_> martimo: :)
[15:12] <martimo> ^^
[15:13] <nextgens> toad_> dunno ... I'm busy doing something else
[15:14] <toad_> nextgens: well it's just that the classic excuse is there are no testers ... we have a tester here
[15:14] <toad_> flatblack: any chance we could have your email address?
[15:17] <martimo> cYa got to gow...and thanks for the help D:
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[15:17] <toad_> flatblack: alternatively, download the script above, open it in a text editor and change the STARTUP_PATH variable
[15:17] <nextgens> toad_> I'll generate the installer
[15:17] <toad_> liek this:
[15:17] <toad_> nextgens: thanks
[15:17] <toad_> nextgens: that cancels out the beer you owe me from yesterday :)
[15:18] <flatblack> sure my email is *********************
[15:18] <toad_> flatblack: you should have disguised it :|
[15:18] <flatblack> i know
[15:19] <toad_> do you want me to purge it?
[15:19] <toad_> i can hack it out of the irc logs...
[15:19] <flatblack> its really up to you
[15:19] <nextgens> toad_> http://emu.freenetproject.org/~nextgens/install.jar
[15:20] <nextgens> get the file and start it in a terminal console
[15:20] <nextgens> so that you can see the debug output
[15:20] <nextgens> using "java -jar install.jar"
[15:20] <toad_> flatblack: please do what nextgens just said...
[15:20] <flatblack> do i still have to do the thing as above
[15:21] <toad_> flatblack: you should probably uninstall the existing node first
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[15:21] <toad_> flatblack: if you need to back up your connections then copy the node* and peers* files
[15:21] <flatblack> is there a way i can save my frfs
[15:21] <flatblack> ok
[15:22] <toad_> flatblack: purged your email
[15:22] <flatblack> thanks
[15:22] <flatblack> do i force delection of the directory
[15:22] <flatblack> deletion*
[15:22] <toad_> as long as you're really sure it's the right directory
[15:23] <toad_> some people accidentally deleted their entire Program Files directory in the past :)
[15:23] <flatblack> i could see how that could happen
[15:23] <flatblack> ok uninstall completed
[15:23] <toad_> now open a terminal and try to run that jar
[15:23] <toad_> it's a new version of the installer
[15:25] <toad_> tell us if it says anything on the console
[15:25] <toad_> err terminal
[15:26] <flatblack> it did not say anything on the terminal
[15:26] <flatblack> and install completed
[15:27] <flatblack> the browser is up with the installation successful screen
[15:27] <toad_> hmmm
[15:28] <toad_> nextgens: is that good or bad?
[15:28] <toad_> probably bad ...
[15:28] <toad_> reboot, does it come up automatically?
[15:28] <flatblack> ok i will be back
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[15:32] <toad_> rehi
[15:32] <toad_> does it work? :|
[15:33] <flatblack> hey i cannot get into the control in firefox
[15:33] <toad_> hmmmmmm?
[15:33] <flatblack> so im guessing no
[15:34] <toad_> you can't get to http://127.0.0.1:8888/ ?
[15:35] <flatblack> nope cannot connect to server
[15:35] <toad_> but you could before you rebooted?
[15:35] <toad_> nextgens: looks like it hasn't run the script at all
[15:35] <flatblack> correct
[15:36] <nextgens> ?!?
[15:36] <flatblack> do you still need my email and if so how should I send it this time without being so stupid
[15:37] <nextgens> does /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.freenetproject.freenet.plist exist ?
[15:37] <toad_> flatblack: you're not stupid, you're really helpful
[15:37] <flatblack> no it does not
[15:37] <flatblack> well thanks
[15:37] <toad_> the only other person on the project who uses OS/X is ian...
[15:37] <nextgens> and does /etc/launchd.conf exist ?
[15:37] <toad_> and he's *really* busy
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[15:38] <flatblack> well im glad to help
[15:38] <flatblack> where is that nextgens
[15:38] <nextgens> hmm
[15:38] <nextgens> okay
[15:39] <flatblack> i did a search and that file does not exist
[15:39] <nextgens> and has ""Creating a startup script for Freenet"" been displayed when you've installed ?
[15:39] <flatblack> i do not recall
[15:39] <flatblack> should i reinstall
[15:40] <nextgens> hmm
[15:40] <nextgens> well, I'd like to finish what I'm working on :s
[15:41] <flatblack> ok
[15:41] <flatblack> thats fine
[15:41] <toad_> ok, so flatblack you would be willing to help us in the not too distant future? we'll email you?
[15:42] <flatblack> o sure
[15:42] <toad_> ok
[15:42] <flatblack> u have it right?
[15:42] <toad_> yeo
[15:42] <toad_> yep
[15:42] <toad_> i'll file a couple of bugs for these two items then
[15:42] <toad_> you can go away if you want to :)
[15:42] <flatblack> ok
[15:43] <nextgens> toad_> they are already items for both afaic
[15:43] <toad_> nextgens: yeah, i'll add to them
[15:43] <flatblack> are you sure?
[15:43] <toad_> flatblack: suggest you start the node manually
[15:43] <toad_> flatblack: and get some noderefs
[15:43] <flatblack> i have like 5 or 6
[15:44] <toad_> flatblack: it's reasonably easy to keep your noderefs across a reinstall
[15:44] <toad_> well if they're just from #freenet-refs then don't worry about it :)
[15:44] <flatblack> yea thats were there from
[15:44] <flatblack> i dont know of anyone else
[15:44] <toad_> when we've got the installer working you can have my darknet ref :)
[15:45] <flatblack> ok
[15:45] <toad_> course while i have good connectivity, my node is pretty overloaded a lot of the time :)
[15:46] <flatblack> i started it manually
[15:46] <flatblack> its up
[15:47] <toad_> cool
[15:48] <toad_> flatblack: do you have a GPG key?
[15:48] <toad_> GPG/PGP?
[15:48] <flatblack> whats that
[15:48] <toad_> i suppose not, you're gmail :|
[15:49] <flatblack> how do i put the node and peer files back
[15:49] <toad_> just stop the node and copy them over the old ones
[15:49] <flatblack> because my ref will change right
[15:49] <toad_> you'll also need to change the node port
[15:49] <toad_> yes your noderef is in your node-<port number> file
[15:49] <toad_> you will also need to change the port - find out what your port number is from your node file, and edit freenet.ini
[15:49] <toad_> you should have copied freenet.ini as well, i'm sorry :|
[15:50] <flatblack> awww
[15:50] <flatblack> so just forget it
[15:50] <flatblack> and just get new one
[15:50] <flatblack> s
[15:50] <toad_> :|
[15:50] <toad_> probably easiest
[15:51] <toad_> next time backup your freenet.ini as well as your node* and peers*
[15:51] <flatblack> ok
[15:51] <flatblack> so what do i need to do now
[15:52] <toad_> well you have a working node, you've lost your refs .. you need to get more refs :|
[15:52] <flatblack> ok
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[16:14] <toad_> bbiab
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[16:25] <flatblack_> im haveing a ref bot error
[16:26] <flatblack_> it cannot parse my darknet ref
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[16:59] <Borat> Visit www.bussamtal.se and www.alltplus.se
[17:02] <toad_> why?
[17:03] * toad_ sets mode +b Borat!*@*
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[17:04] <saces> to generate "klicks" on googlesyndication.
[17:04] <toad_> ahhhh
[17:04] <toad_> that only works if people actually click through the advert no?
[17:05] <nextgens> maybe we should purge logs too ?
[17:06] <toad_> if you want
[17:06] <toad_> just ******* it out
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[18:15] <sharkp> hi
[18:15] <sharkp> could you give me your ref?
[18:16] <sharkp> ehi,is there anyone?
[18:17] <sharkp> here my ref: http://code.bulix.org/n9u7ig-56813
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[22:16] <nextgens> is someone using a recent version of trunk around ?
[22:16] <nextgens> is it backward compatible with stable nodes ?
[22:21] <Tommy[D]> backward compatible = ? I could try trunk
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