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[1:48] <Redblade> "cannot stat `/tmp/.divx/include/*.h': No such file or directory" how would I fix that?
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[2:28] <Redblade> do people use Beryl?
[2:30] <Redblade> or Compiz?
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[5:05] <Benson_> greetings all
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[7:08] <Beagle_eye> if all your refs are busy doe thatmake your node more vulnerable?
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[8:30] <vivee> Beagle_eye: nope
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[9:46] <plainas> hey there... cool project i just found
[9:50] <plainas> I feel like starting a small personal codding project, a contribution to the freenet project appears to be a good option... any suggestions?
[9:50] <plainas> I would like to try the C++ api
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[11:52] <plainas> nobody here?
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[13:06] <IRCMonkey> boss
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[14:18] <toad_> hi folk
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[14:25] <rabbi> Question for a server op, or anyone who knows -- how long does it take for whowas data to timeout?
[14:26] <rabbi> (I spent about an hour searching, but didn't find the answer. If it's in the FAQ, I missed it somehow.)
[14:36] <toad_> :|
[14:36] <toad_> try #freenode
[14:37] <rabbi> d'oh!
[14:37] <rabbi> *blushes*
[14:38] <rabbi> Muscle-memory. Oops.
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[14:43] <toad_> :)
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[14:45] <toad_> doh
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[14:59] <freenet46> lo all
[14:59] <freenet46> http://dark-code.bulix.org/ycu8t5-56325?raw
[14:59] <toad_> u want #freenet-refs
[14:59] <toad_> but if it breaks come here
[15:00] <freenet46> okay
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[15:08] <Electrosys> A am getting backoffs from ForwardRejectedOverload can anyone explain this a little further?
[15:11] <toad_> means the nodes are overloaded
[15:22] <Electrosys> toad_: Does that basicly mean that my node can handle more bandwidth than my friends nodes?
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[16:05] <toad_> Electrosys: maybe
[16:25] <toad_> ok, i've fixed the trunk bug causing way too many stranger-peers
[16:25] <toad_> please could folk test trunk? thanks
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[16:32] <motte_freenet> hello, anyone there ?
[16:34] <Electrosys> I am here.
[16:36] <motte_freenet> hi, i have a question, i would like to exchange a ref with somebody. i tried till now with two bots, they tell me there was a problem, i should try later
[16:36] <motte_freenet> do you maybe know, why its not working ?
[16:38] <Electrosys> Do they say that they can not connect to your node?
[16:39] <motte_freenet> yes
[16:39] <motte_freenet> exactily: there was a problem talking to the node. Please try again later. (1 ref to go)
[16:39] <Electrosys> right. umm, are you running windows or linux?
[16:40] <motte_freenet> im running ubuntu linux
[16:41] <motte_freenet> i have os x and windows xp here, too, if it would be necessary, but i like mostly linux
[16:41] <Electrosys> Sweet...
[16:41] <kryptos23> hi
[16:41] <Electrosys> I have installed a few nodes on windows. I have just recently installed ubuntu 7.04 and when I use freenet on my ubuntu I get the same problem.
[16:42] <motte_freenet> hmmm
[16:42] <motte_freenet> then maybe i should try it on winxp
[16:42] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > could you give me ur noderef plz ( if ur not behind a NAT)
[16:42] <Electrosys> I have never had problems with installing on windows. But I must be doing something wrong on my ubuntu install.
[16:42] <Electrosys> Well..
[16:42] <kryptos23> in #freenet-refs
[16:42] <Electrosys> The thing is... it works great on linux.. we just need to figure out how to get it to work..
[16:43] <Electrosys> plus ubuntu will eat winxp for breakfast and then spit it out in 3d... =)
[16:44] <Electrosys> I bet either Zothar toad or nextgens could help us though when they are not busy.
[16:44] <motte_freenet> :)
[16:45] <motte_freenet> i wished i could use ubuntu for freenet, too - os x is running on a macbook (i cant let keep running freenet all the time) and my xp pc is a slow one
[16:46] <toad_> i could help u run freenet on windows? maybe not..
[16:46] <Electrosys> motte_feenet: did you try to get a node running in ubuntu?
[16:46] <Electrosys> Naaa. We want to get it going on ubuntu..
[16:47] <Electrosys> im running 7.04.
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[16:47] <motte_freenet> me too
[16:48] <Electrosys> yup.
[16:48] <toad_> ah
[16:48] <Electrosys> brb, lemme get to my ubuntu box.
[16:48] <toad_> hmmm
[16:48] <Electrosys> be back in 3 minutes.
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[16:48] <toad_> what's the problem then?
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[16:49] <motte_freenet> we have a problem connetcting to the refs of a bot
[16:50] <toad_> :|
[16:50] <toad_> i have no idea, ask zothar
[16:51] <motte_freenet> ok :)
[16:51] <motte_freenet> thank you anyway :
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[16:52] <Zothar_Work> motte_freenet: check that FCP is currently setup correctly on the bot and that the node is talking FCP ATM
[16:52] <Electrosys> I miss anything?
[16:52] <motte_freenet> nothing yet
[16:53] <motte_freenet> toad told us to ask Zothar
[16:53] <Electrosys> cool. I can't even get my node started, i dont know how to in linux. i tried java -jar freenet.jar but that didn't work.
[16:54] <motte_freenet> maybe you should check the version of java installed
[16:54] <Zothar_Work> Electrosys: check that your version of java in the path is correct; java -version IIRC
[16:54] <motte_freenet> with java --version
[16:55] <motte_freenet> my node is running, i just cant connect
[16:55] <Electrosys> 1.5.0_11 is the java version I have going at the moment.
[16:55] <motte_freenet> i can connect to the application via browser, however the bots cant connect to me
[16:56] <Electrosys> right, i had that same problem yesterday when i did have my node started right have I installed.
[16:56] <Electrosys> right after I installed.. rather.
[16:57] <Zothar_Work> Unfortunately, I don't have the time to really dig into the troubleshooting (at work right now), but it's gotta be something related to FCP; perhaps watch the console output of refbot.py for clues as I believe that's a little more verbose about what happened
[16:58] <Zothar_Work> IIRC
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[16:59] <Electrosys> why refbot.py ? when are dealing with other nodes not being able to connect to ours.
[16:59] <toad_> Electrosys: so you're trying to connect manually to the bots? you're not running a bot?
[17:00] <Electrosys> Na, im not running a bot.. Im just trying to get refs.
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[17:02] <motte_freenet> i tryed now to exchange refs with another guy, but it still does not work
[17:02] <motte_freenet> if i try to add his refs, i got this error message: freenet.node.FSParseException: java.lang.NullPointerException
[17:02] <toad_> about half the output for any given term on the new XMLLibrarian index seems to be from the big collection of porn stories... :|
[17:02] <toad_> motte_freenet: does it show you a full stack trace?
[17:02] <toad_> motte_freenet: maybe in wrapper.log if not on the web interface?
[17:03] <Electrosys> I dont know how to start my node in linux. can anyone tell me?
[17:03] <toad_> does it say anything about it in the wrapper.log ? does it have lots of lines after the NullPointerException that start "at " ?
[17:03] <motte_freenet> i started it with "java -jar new_installer.jar"
[17:04] <toad_> motte_freenet: or in logs/freenet-latest.log
[17:04] <Electrosys> but thats the installer. I already have it installed. I tried java -jar freenet.jar but that didn't work.
[17:04] <toad_> motte_freenet: i can fix it if you can find the full message
[17:04] <motte_freenet> then "http://127.0.0.1:8888" into the browser adress line
[17:04] <toad_> Electrosys: cd into the right directory, do ./run.sh start
[17:06] <Electrosys> I didnt see a starting the node heading in the wiki, maybe it needs one or i missed it.
[17:06] <toad_> sorry, we assumed people who run linux would figure it out ...
[17:07] <toad_> will add some info soon
[17:08] <Electrosys> its ok, can i add it?
[17:08] <Electrosys> Is it that kind of wiki?
[17:08] <toad_> you can add it on the wiki, i thought you meant the download page?
[17:09] <Electrosys> naa. I looked on the wiki.
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[17:09] <toad_> where on the wiki?
[17:11] <Electrosys> Well. It should probably go in the Using Freenet but there are not different os that you can select in that area so im thinking installing freenet / linux
[17:13] <toad_> we really ought to solve these problems by producing a debian package
[17:15] <Electrosys> I dont know anything about debian packages.. where yout talking to me?
[17:15] <toad_> ubuntu packages then :)
[17:15] <toad_> ubuntu is closely based on debian and has more or less the same packages
[17:16] <toad_> same format, many common packages/package names
[17:18] <toad_> brb
[17:19] <Electrosys> brb too, in about 10 minutes.. goonna run to the corner store.
[17:24] <motte_freenet> ohh, i didnt know there are debian packages
[17:24] <motte_freenet> i only found the java version
[17:24] <motte_freenet> maybe i should try it :)
[17:25] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > are your problems with adding refs still persisiting?
[17:36] <toad_> motte_freenet: there aren't any debian packages yet :(
[17:41] <Electrosys> I am able to add refs but none of them are connecting. I should have firewall/router properly configured.
[17:41] <toad_> Electrosys: cd into the directory you install it into
[17:41] <toad_> Electrosys: sorry
[17:41] <Electrosys> ok
[17:42] <toad_> did they add your refs?
[17:42] <toad_> motte_freenet: what version are you using?
[17:42] <Electrosys> they should have they where bots. lemme try some more and see if i still have problems.
[17:43] <kryptos23> toad_ > Doesnt seem to connect for me either... i just added motte_freenet ; hes added me as well
[17:43] <toad_> but you don't get the NPE?
[17:43] <toad_> he can't add you cos you've got no ip address
[17:43] <kryptos23> no
[17:45] <toad_> no what? :)
[17:46] <toad_> ok, it's a known bug ... which was fixed recently in trunk
[17:46] <kryptos23> dont get the NPE
[17:46] * toad_ asking motte_freenet to update to trunk
[17:46] <toad_> ok
[17:47] <toad_> kryptos23: why does your noderef not include your ip address?
[17:47] <kryptos23> i am running the latest trunk
[17:47] <kryptos23> toad_ > it doesnt? i did set the temp Ipaddress
[17:47] <toad_> kryptos23: does it have it now? your ref might have changed since you pastebin'ed it?
[17:47] <Electrosys> also. when i goto the home page i see my node can't detrmine my external ip even when i give it hints, even when i give it the whole ip address.
[17:47] <toad_> have you been reusing the pastebin url?
[17:48] <toad_> Electrosys: but does it show up in your reference, that is the question?
[17:48] <kryptos23> hmm... cant remember which i used :( lemme send it to him again
[17:48] <toad_> Electrosys: also if you go to the plugins page there should be UPnP and JSTUN plugins, are there?
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[17:49] <Electrosys> yea.
[17:49] <kryptos23> toad_ > my noderef shd show my external Ipaddress right?after i set the tempIpaddress in config page
[17:49] <Electrosys> no they are not loaded.
[17:50] <Electrosys> how can I load them?
[17:50] <toad_> kryptos23: it should yes
[17:50] <toad_> kryptos23: does it?
[17:50] <toad_> Electrosys: hmmm
[17:50] <kryptos23> nope :(
[17:50] <toad_> Electrosys: when did you install?
[17:51] <toad_> Electrosys: did you uncheck the boxes in the installer, or cause the breakage otherwise?
[17:51] <Electrosys> naa, i think im in good shape now.. maybe just getting excited over nothing, im sorry.
[17:51] <Electrosys> i have a node connected to me now.
[17:52] <toad_> Electrosys: it would be useful for us to know ...
[17:52] <kryptos23> i would need the ref of someone whos not behind a NAt so that it can get my external Ipaddress
[17:53] <toad_> well that's a last resort ... you should have the UPnP and JSTUN plugins loaded, and they should get your external IP address
[17:53] <Electrosys> naa, i didn't uncheck anything everything was installed by default.. one thing i did do , is i didn't see the first time config wizzard, and i started to configre and then i noticed the first time wizzard was there so i went through that process, but it seems that everything is working at the moment.
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[17:54] <Electrosys> I put the whole ip address in the hint and it still complains but at least now my ip adddress is correct in my reference.
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[17:54] <toad_> Electrosys: okay ... so the hint does work, apparently
[17:54] <toad_> Electrosys: did you restart after that?
[17:54] <toad_> kryptos23: do you have the plugins loaded?
[17:55] <kryptos23> i built from the src; tht shd include everything?
[17:55] <toad_> you still have to load the plugins
[17:55] <Electrosys> toad_: are you asking about restarting my node. or something else? if the node , no i haven't restarted the node.
[17:56] <toad_> if you're running from an eclipse bin/ dir instead of a jar, you can load them by classname i.e. plugins.JSTUN.JSTUN
[17:56] <toad_> kryptos23: strongly recommend you load them
[17:56] <toad_> kryptos23: however, don't you have any other peers?
[17:57] <toad_> kryptos23: if you're running from a jar you have to load them in the usual manner - put JSTUN# into the box etc
[17:57] <Electrosys> So i think that i am running from a jar right?
[17:57] <kryptos23> i have around 4; all of them show as not connected
[17:57] <toad_> kryptos23: probably because your IP is not in your noderef :|
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[17:59] <Electrosys> toad_: how do I load the plugins?
[18:00] <toad_> Electrosys: it's very odd that you don't have them ... can you send me your full wrapper.log ?
[18:00] <toad_> Electrosys: go to the plugins page and enter UPnP#
[18:00] <toad_> and then JSTUN#
[18:00] <toad_> in the box
[18:00] <toad_> one at a time
[18:02] <Electrosys> cool
[18:03] <Electrosys> toad_: Thanks your the best.
[18:05] <toad_> Electrosys: you haven't restarted the node since you installed it?
[18:05] <toad_> i'm still trying to understand why it didn't have the plugins...
[18:05] <Electrosys> Oh yes, I have restarted it one time.
[18:05] <toad_> hmmm
[18:05] <Electrosys> .. Last night.
[18:05] <Electrosys> It seems to be working great now though.
[18:05] <toad_> might be relevant..
[18:07] <Electrosys> I am restarting it now..
[18:08] <Electrosys> Where can I find that webpage that explains how to optimize firefox for freenet?
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[18:09] <toad_> dunno probably on the wiki
[18:15] <Electrosys> http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetInstallationLinux wadda you think? i put it on the very bottom.
[18:16] <motte_freenet> i got now one connection working, but you are still offline, Electrosys
[18:19] <toad_> Electrosys: so you installed your node recently and have no plugins loaded?
[18:19] * toad_ installed a testing node, and had plugins ...
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[18:19] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > can connect to u now
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[18:20] <toad_> hmmmm
[18:21] <toad_> motte_freenet: what version of java do you have installed? did you hava java installed before you installed freenet?
[18:21] <toad_> Electrosys: what version of java do you have installed? did you hava java installed before you installed freenet?
[18:22] <Electrosys> Is it gonna cause a problem to have two nodes behind the same NAT? obvisly I can only forwart the port to one right?
[18:22] <toad_> no, it's a different port
[18:23] <Electrosys> oh yea thats right.
[18:23] <toad_> and if the UPnP plugin was loaded it would automatically forward the port for you (or rather it would try to, and probably fail)
[18:23] <Electrosys> java .5 and yes it was installed before. but i am not having any probelms now.
[18:23] <toad_> but strangely enough the plugin isn't loaded on your node, or on motte_freenet 's node
[18:23] <kryptos23> toad_ > yes; it fails;atleast for me
[18:23] <toad_> even though when i install a new node, the plugin IS installed
[18:23] <Electrosys> hmm.
[18:23] <Electrosys> i see.
[18:24] <Electrosys> my brother just installed on windows. lemme see if his are installed.
[18:24] <Electrosys> yes, he has four of them.
[18:24] <toad_> hmmmmmmmm
[18:25] <toad_> can you send me your full wrapper.log please?
[18:25] <toad_> email me it at toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
[18:25] <Electrosys> he dosen't have his ip in his ref and freenet isn't asking for a hint.
[18:25] <toad_> eh?
[18:26] <toad_> you mean he does have his IP in his ref?
[18:26] <toad_> how long has the node been up?
[18:26] <Electrosys> he does not.. its only been up about five minutes.
[18:26] <toad_> hmmm
[18:26] <toad_> well it should pick it up within a few minutes of startup
[18:26] <toad_> but the node won't complain about it until it's tried it
[18:27] <toad_> can you get me an exact uptime?
[18:27] <Electrosys> I didn't forward the port, but its not asking for a hint, but that must be because there is another node behind his nat huh?
[18:27] <toad_> no
[18:28] <toad_> it's not asking for a hint because it's not finished trying to detect the IP yet
[18:28] <toad_> get me the wrapper.log please
[18:30] <Electrosys> its not showing the node status overview on his even with advanced view on.
[18:30] <toad_> Electrosys: the what?
[18:30] <Electrosys> Node Status Overview where it shows the uptime.
[18:30] <toad_> Electrosys: you're accessing it from a machine other than the one it's running on, right?
[18:31] <Electrosys> no. both of our machine are right here.
[18:31] <toad_> by default it only shows the interesting/dangerous stuff to localhost
[18:31] <toad_> try the statistics page
[18:33] <Electrosys> thats where we are.
[18:33] <toad_> :|
[18:33] <toad_> then try wrapper.log
[18:34] <Electrosys> How do i see what port his node is running on?
[18:34] * toad_ would on behalf of Freenet Project Incorporated really appreciate you sending me a copy of the wrapper.log in the same directory as the node
[18:34] <toad_> from either your or his node or ideally both
[18:34] <toad_> Electrosys: from his noderef on the friends page
[18:34] <toad_> Electrosys: or after it at the bottom
[18:35] <toad_> and btw we already know your IP address and have a good guess at your first name ...
[18:35] <toad_> so you won't be losing any anonymity by letting me see it
[18:36] <toad_> well, unless there are any keys in the file
[18:36] <toad_> you can look for them though - they have an @ in them
[18:36] <Electrosys> so you wanna my wrapper.log?
[18:36] <toad_> yes please
[18:37] <toad_> email me it at toad at amphibian dot dyndns dot org
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[18:37] <ZhayTee> Is opennet on its feet yet?
[18:37] <toad_> getting there
[18:38] <toad_> we have path folding, but you have to get some nodes in the first place
[18:38] <toad_> once you have them in theory opennet should keep it working, as long as you don't have any MAJOR downtime
[18:38] <toad_> next build, out soon, will improve on downtime tolerance significantly
[18:38] <ZhayTee> I would like at least one opennet ref, but #freenet-refs is crammed full of darknet bots. :P
[18:39] <Electrosys> toad_:sent..
[18:39] <toad_> ZhayTee: you can actually get opennet refs from darknet nodes
[18:39] <ZhayTee> O?
[18:39] <ZhayTee> Hm.
[18:40] <toad_> well ur node can
[18:40] <toad_> so get some darknet refs, and when opennet is working well, dump them
[18:40] <ZhayTee> Will do.
[18:40] <Electrosys> is open net connected to the same information as darknet?
[18:41] <toad_> Electrosys: yes
[18:41] <toad_> well generally
[18:41] <toad_> it's possible to have an isolated darknet
[18:42] <ZhayTee> It seems like, at this point, "THE darknet" is essentially the same as opennet. Just... instead of the node doing ref swapping, people use bots in #freenet-refs. :P
[18:42] <ZhayTee> (But I realize that people can (and hopefully will) create isolated darknets.)
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[18:42] <Electrosys> right, just a slightly different way to connect to it.
[18:42] <toad_> they don't have to be isolated to be useful
[18:42] <toad_> but they DO have to be true darknets
[18:43] <Electrosys> Thats why im tryihng to get all my friends into this freenet.
[18:43] <toad_> good idea
[18:43] <toad_> did you send me your wrapper.log yet?
[18:44] <toad_> of course, they will soon tell you there's no content, it's too slow and you're harbouring child pornography ... :<
[18:44] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > could you send me ur noderef again plz?
[18:45] <toad_> 11:05:19 | Launching a JVM...
[18:45] <toad_> 11:05:22 | Node initialization completed.
[18:45] <Electrosys> toad_: yup. you hit the nail on the head, they haven't said that yet. but of course they possibly could... yes i sent your e-mail.
[18:45] <toad_> 12:02:22 | UP&P Forwarding 1 ports...
[18:45] <toad_> WOAH!
[18:45] <toad_> it took nearly an hour for UP&P to run?!?!?!
[18:46] <Electrosys> yea, cause i had to load the plug in manually.
[18:46] <toad_> ah
[18:46] <Electrosys> or wait, that was last night or this morning...
[18:46] <toad_> okay, so the plugin was *never* present
[18:46] <toad_> check the timestamps...
[18:46] <toad_> i think they are local time
[18:46] <Electrosys> oh ok, 24 hour?
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[18:47] <toad_> maybe
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[18:52] <plainas> hey all.... is there anybody really here?
[18:53] <toad_> hi
[18:53] <plainas> hey!
[18:53] <Electrosys> Hi.
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[18:53] <plainas> i thought some freenet client application would be a cool personal project
[18:54] <plainas> I would like to try the c++ API
[18:54] <plainas> what do you guys recomend me to do.... i am not so familiar with the whole freenet network
[18:54] <plainas> what's missing in it?
[18:54] <plainas> like.. i would like to write somethin usefull
[18:55] <toad_> hmmm
[18:55] <toad_> well the C++ api isn't finished, i suggest you talk to mkolar at freenetproject.org
[18:55] <toad_> it's reasonably close to being usable though
[18:56] <plainas> that's what i red in the wiki
[18:56] <plainas> well.. it says that it's in testing stage...
[18:56] <plainas> but i would really prefer to use c++
[18:56] <toad_> well it's not fully documented, that's the main problem
[18:56] <toad_> most of the functionality is there
[18:57] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > am i connected to u?
[18:57] <plainas> what other options is there? java, python, perl?
[18:58] <toad_> plainas: you could alternatively just connect directly to FCP, it's reasonably simple, but it gets to be a bit of a pain if you need direct disk access (which you do if you're moving large files)
[18:59] <plainas> toad_: was that really for me? I am totally new to freenet... what's FCP?
[18:59] <toad_> Freenet Client Protocol
[19:00] <toad_> it's documented on the wiki
[19:00] <plainas> I actually gave a look at it already
[19:00] <plainas> it looks pretty simple to use
[19:00] <toad_> yeah but if you're moving big files you need to deal with direct disk access
[19:00] <toad_> TestDDA, FileHash etc
[19:01] <toad_> so you should seriously consider using the library
[19:01] <plainas> mmmmm
[19:01] <toad_> but you'll probably need to work with mkolar at this point, it's not production quality yet
[19:01] <kryptos23> motte_freenet > are you around?
[19:01] <plainas> but I am not quite sure what i want to do...
[19:01] <toad_> i was his mentor for the GSoC ...
[19:01] <plainas> like... I don't think i would go for a complete client
[19:01] <toad_> ah, you have specific plans then?
[19:02] <plainas> no... that's actually what i am here for... i need suggestions... i feel like having a small c++ project... and thought freenet would be a good target
[19:02] <toad_> hmmm
[19:03] <toad_> maybe a site insertion tool?
[19:03] <plainas> yes that's an idea
[19:04] <plainas> what cool features are missing in the current ones?
[19:05] <toad_> well... pyfcp's inserter iirc inserts all the files separately and then combines them into a manifest, this speeds up inserting the same file over and over in later editions, but it means the site will be quite a bit bigger because the node can't compress it all into an archive
[19:05] <toad_> jsite has a nasty bug relating to open files, so it can't insert really big sites
[19:05] <toad_> none of them properly support direct disk access, although i'm not sure what the state is of node-side support for that anyway
[19:05] <toad_> jsite doesn't do persistent inserts
[19:06] <toad_> i.e. it ought to add the insert to the global queue
[19:06] <toad_> rather than just waiting for it (at least as an option) ... because big sites could take a looong time to insert, so they need to be persistent across node restarts
[19:07] <toad_> of course if you're willing to work in java, there's tons of stuff that can be done
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[19:07] <plainas> is the java api the most complete?
[19:08] <toad_> there are several different java api's, none complete :|
[19:08] <toad_> jsite uses the node's internal classes with some changes... frost and thaw have their own java impl's
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[19:11] <toad_> brb
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[19:19] <toad_> re
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[19:21] <kryptos23> toad_ > when i add the ref of my other node instance; it doesnt seem to get detected; the Ipaddress shows some arbit value; i did do those settings as u told me
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[19:27] <toad_> kryptos23: "some arbitrary value" ?
[19:27] <toad_> kryptos23: it must have got it from somewhere!
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[19:28] <toad_> you have an internal and an external IP address
[19:28] <toad_> we don't normally include your internal IP, we are interested in your external IP
[19:29] <toad_> if they're both on the same machine then it won't detect your external IP from adding the connection
[19:30] <kryptos23> toad_ > yes... they r one the same machine
[19:30] <kryptos23> * on :(
[19:30] <toad_> ok
[19:30] <toad_> and you set the options we mentioned?
[19:30] <kryptos23> yes
[19:31] <toad_> so you should have physical dot udp equals 127.0.0.1:port;192.168.1.8:port;<my real IP>:port
[19:31] <toad_> or something vaguely like that
[19:31] <toad_> in your noderef
[19:31] <toad_> your localhost address, your LAN address and if it can find it your real address
[19:33] <kryptos23> what is the first value in physical.udp?before the localhost address
[19:33] <toad_> they may not be in order
[19:33] <toad_> your LAN address should be 192.168.something or 10.something
[19:33] <toad_> or maybe something starting 172
[19:33] <kryptos23> fe80:0:0:0:216:6fff:feb4:b21f%3:15511
[19:33] <kryptos23> what is this?
[19:33] <toad_> ah that's your IPv6 address
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[19:35] <toad_> i take it you've heard of IPv6? :)
[19:36] <kryptos23> srry; i am baffled :( i dint even know there was Ipv6 deployed by our ISp's
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[19:37] <toad_> it may be an IPv6 representation of an IPv4 address or some similar artefact
[19:37] <kryptos23> toad_ > but why does it display my Ipv6 address in the peers page?
[19:38] <toad_> you mean in your node reference?
[19:38] <toad_> why shouldn't it?
[19:38] <kryptos23> oh.... i thought it would display my external address(Ipv4)
[19:39] <toad_> it displays a whole bunch of addresses through which your node may be contacted
[19:39] <toad_> in your noderef that is
[19:39] <kryptos23> my external ipv4 address does show in the end
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[19:40] <kryptos23> i take its a problem in my branch :(
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[21:00] <makomk> BTW, I noticed a odd (but presumably harmless) bug in 1064 where, if I lose all my connections, it displays the "only one connection open" message rather than the "no connections open" one.
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[21:06] <Kedlun> hi
[21:10] <Electrosys> Hello.
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[21:16] <Kedlun> is there anyone here who can help me move my node? I need to transfer my linux node to a windows machine. Which files are necessary to move?
[21:21] <Electrosys> I would just install a new node, yea you have to get new refs, but if its a true darknet that should not be a problem
[21:22] <Electrosys> ... if its not it might take some time to get back up.
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[21:23] <Tommy[D]> neccessary? Depends on what you want to transer....
[21:23] <Electrosys> But i guess if your serous about trying to do that I'm not exactly the right person to ask.
[21:26] <Kedlun> the reason is because i am no longer able ot provide adequate support for my peers, and my node has been running for a long time. I think it is necessary to keep as many nodes as possible active to help perpetuate freenet and especially if they are well established nodes. starting a new one would destroy the conections between my connected nodes which isn't very good for the infrastructure of the network
[21:26] <Kedlun> i am planning on transfering my node to a new location where i can have a more consistent internet connection
[21:27] <Kedlun> i have to reset my store and cache, so they aren't necessary to move; which should be a lot easier. So, i just need my settings (freenet.ini) and my peers
[21:27] <Electrosys> I wish I could help... Someone else probably can though.
[21:27] <Kedlun> but i don't want to leave anything out, and I do not know what is necessary for a windows install, never done a freenet-windows node.
[21:27] <Kedlun> thanks, anyway.
[21:28] <Tommy[D]> at least node-<port> and peers-<port> are needed
[21:30] <Kedlun> great, is that all? Or do you recommend anything else?
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