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[0:00] <Parsero> i see than
[0:00] <Parsero> thanks*
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[0:45] <Parsero> frenet
[0:45] <Parsero> helloooooo
[0:47] <Parsero> soo i have been thinkin
[0:47] <Parsero> into ahh makin a site
[0:47] <Parsero> i have a huge collection of pictures
[0:48] <Parsero> and would love to share that in freenet
[0:48] <Parsero> make up my own html is that how it works?
[0:54] <lattt> there 2 description in freenet and 1 in wiki ( http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetJsite )
[0:55] <lattt> and only talk about content if it is legal stuff
[0:57] <Parsero> i can see how you can get initially discouraged!!
[0:59] <Parsero> can one create a forum
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[1:25] <timmy2chk> USK@UZOXnPBnEMdqIOTVN4O7OyaGfaYJ19AnMoN4DZhl6Y0,8T8zhhNSZXAe5Y86aWSBgzxnIuS4kVFK7Zfd8YFZpZY,AQACAAE/pthc-conexxion/-1/
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[2:22] <Parsero> Is anyone exchanging Refs?
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[4:30] <yiffraptr> hi
[4:31] <yiffraptr> Does anyone know if jsite or freenet automatically removes certain html tags from a page?
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[5:29] <robd> Hey all1
[5:30] <robd> Just wondering, how do you exchange refs securely? (I'm using Frost and I can't seem to encrypt a message to any person, the whole option is greyed out)
[5:30] <robd> Hmm, is anyone around?
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[13:34] <_ph00> please devs, don't waste your time on OpenNet...
[13:36] * apo__ is now known as duffert
[13:37] <_ph00> the lanuage specific channels I tried to start are virtually dead. -it and -es are, anyway.
[13:38] <_ph00> (other language specific channels were already there, and still are)
[13:39] <paveq> 0012 rah >> it needs to be written to disk
[13:39] <paveq> rah: nope
[13:39] <paveq> rah: just let the OS swap it to the disk when needed
[13:39] <paveq> unnecessary I/O is bad
[13:40] <paveq> but rarely used memory can always be swapped to the disk
[13:41] <duffert> #freenet-refs
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[13:49] <toad_> lets see if we can do something about cpu usage...
[13:51] <toad_> interesting that it's hovering generally below 100% on a dual core system ... implies whatever is responsible is a single thread
[13:51] <toad_> GC perhaps
[13:51] <_ph00> you are nelgent on your dities dude :P
[13:51] <_ph00> u
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[13:53] <toad_> 160467.205: [Full GC 100479K->89090K(101440K), 0.4441610 secs]
[13:53] <toad_> 160467.707: [Full GC 100479K->89138K(101440K), 0.4285210 secs]
[13:53] <toad_> 160468.187: [Full GC 100479K->89004K(101440K), 0.4453640 secs]
[13:53] <toad_> 160468.690: [Full GC 100479K->87502K(101440K), 0.4554100 secs]
[13:53] <toad_> 160469.220: [Full GC 100479K->88338K(101440K), 1.9490380 secs]
[13:53] <toad_> woah, look at that
[13:53] <toad_> it's ALL garbage collection
[13:55] <toad_> and yet it's been running for 3 days with -Xmx100M, and hasn't OOMed yet
[13:55] <toad_> this suggests the problem is the volume of objects allocated per second, rather than any progressive leak
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[14:14] <CIA-14> toad * r11652 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/io/comm/UdpSocketManager.java: Don't create a new byte[] and DatagramPacket each time.
[14:15] <CIA-14> toad * r11653 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/io/comm/IncomingPacketFilter.java: Comments
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[14:30] <CIA-14> toad * r11654 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/Version.java: Transition time: > should be >=
[14:33] <CIA-14> toad * r11655 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/ (PacketSender.java PeerNode.java): Only update version flags when the version changes, and at the transition time.
[14:33] <rah> paveq: read my post on freenet-devl
[14:35] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11656 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix PersistentPut reading
[14:41] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11657 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/fcp/FCPClientPut.java: Oops, I forgot to remove the commented part
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[15:30] <paveq> rah: that one where you are comparing fred to apache?
[15:30] <paveq> IMO freenet should be compared to azureus, for example
[15:30] <paveq> java apps tend to consume memory
[15:31] <rah> ah!
[15:31] <rah> so the problem is possibly that fred is written in java
[15:31] <paveq> you got the point :)
[15:32] <rah> why was java chosen?
[15:32] <paveq> ask toad
[15:34] <paveq> hmm, why do java programs take all the memory
[15:34] <rah> toad_: why was java chosen?
[15:34] <rah> paveq: IMO, fred should be compared to other daemons
[15:35] <CIA-14> toad * r11658 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/clients/http/filter/HTMLFilter.java: Another small memory optimisation
[15:35] <paveq> btw, couldn't fred use real mysql or postgres for storage, instead of BDB
[15:35] <rah> yes, it could
[15:37] <rah> "fred" could do anything within the limits of computability
[15:45] <paveq> any news about opennet?
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[16:05] <CIA-14> toad * r11659 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/io/comm/UdpSocketManager.java: Optimisation was broken (not working; no impact on function)
[16:05] <CIA-14> toad * r11660 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/io/comm/MessageFilter.java: Reduce allocations in match() significantly at the cost of a few more bytes for a Vector
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[16:28] <CIA-14> toad * r11661 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/keys/ (ClientCHKBlock.java ClientSSKBlock.java Key.java): More memory optimisations
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[16:32] <CIA-14> toad * r11662 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Doh. Need to pass length to makeImmutableBucket.
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[17:00] <CIA-14> toad * r11663 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/ (13 files in 5 dirs):
[17:00] <CIA-14> Prevent two int[] allocations per block encryption.
[17:00] <CIA-14> PEER REVIEW WOULD BE ESPECIALLY WELCOME FOR THIS PATCH AS IT AFFECTS CRYPTO !!!
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[18:13] <Zorix> toad, i got this earlier in the week: http://dark-code.bulix.org/wdmjc6-31954?raw
[18:13] <Zorix> node wouldnt do anything, that happened on every site i went to and filled log files
[18:14] <Zorix> i cleared the datastore and cache and all that stuff now it sorta works
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[18:45] <CIA-14> toad * r11664 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/PeerNode.java: Fix deadlock
[18:48] <CIA-14> toad * r11665 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/PeerNode.java: Another locking fix
[18:51] <Zorix> how do i force an update if the build number doesnt change
[18:54] <Zorix> nm figured i could delete the .url file
[18:55] <Zorix> hmm it didnt get that version
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[19:09] <toad_> hmmm
[19:09] <toad_> i think i broke the crypto... or the connections, or something
[19:09] <toad_> doubtful that it's the crypto because i can access files
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[19:13] <servinitup> hi all...my node is running and I have about 8 refs...but any link I've tried times out
[19:13] <servinitup> running behind a router and I did not set up port forwarding
[19:14] <servinitup> should I do that or am I missing something?
[19:14] <servinitup> NAT router
[19:18] <Zorix> toad_ its all messed up heh
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[19:18] <Zorix> servinitup check to see if there is any activity
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[19:22] <toad_> servinitup: do you have any connected or backed off nodes on the darknet page?
[19:36] <servinitup> I usually have about 3 connected and the rest busy
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[20:02] <Parsero> can anyone tell me how many nodes are too many
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[22:21] <JustMe> Info: r11665 is awfull. I had to go back to r11651. Everything was backed off (or something) so hard nothing was showing up on the Node Location Distribution (w/Swap Age) circle excert my node.
[22:22] <JustMe> excert=except
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[22:24] <Nik> Hi out there
[22:24] <Nik> Can somebody advise me on what to do if I can't start freenet due to the Main class not being found?
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