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IRC Log for 2006-12-28

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[0:44] <Danilo> ciao a tutti
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[1:54] <Tyrus_Perises> it seems that often I will start loading a freenet page, and then not be able to access anything else on freenode at the same time, including 127.0.0.1:8888, is that more or less normal?
[1:56] <Tyrus_Perises> er freenet :) freenode works fine lol
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[2:06] <sleon> Tyrus_Perises: what do you mean ?
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[2:13] <Tyrus_Perises> well, like I will click on a link in freenet, and the page will be sitting there loading, parts of the page will come up fast, others slow, and a lot not at all. However durring this time http://127.0.0.1:8888 might not work at all
[2:15] <IMCensored1> Tyrus_Perises: look at your wrapper.log and see about the same time you see a message stating "JVM Appears Hung"... that means your node crashed... quite a few of us are having this problem...
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[2:16] <PasDNick> might also be a max-connections-per-server problem, don't you think?
[2:23] <Tyrus_Perises> well I do have the max-connections-per-server at 200
[2:23] <Tyrus_Perises> is that high enouph?
[2:23] <Tyrus_Perises> Iwill check the hung thing now, sec
[2:28] <Tyrus_Perises> hmm nope no messages in wrapper.log
[2:28] <Tyrus_Perises> though the exact second I hit the stop button on the page thats getting loaded, http://127.0.0.1:8888 loads instantly
[2:29] <Tyrus_Perises> so thats sounds a lot like a browser issue to me.... but none the less I do have the connections way the heck up
[2:30] <IMCensored1> actually
[2:30] <IMCensored1> i had the exact same problem
[2:30] <IMCensored1> but it was only with certain pages
[2:30] <Tyrus_Perises> yeah not all pages do that
[2:31] <IMCensored1> and when i tried to let those pages load... after 10 or so hours (however long till the node crashed) i gave up....
[2:31] <Tyrus_Perises> yeah i dnno how long it lasts but its pretty much forever
[2:33] <IMCensored1> this was a little while back for me... so i dont have the keys anymore... hang on to one of those "bad" freesite keys and file a bug report
[2:34] <Tyrus_Perises> theres a good number of them
[2:34] <IMCensored1> only 2 that i tried did it... but i really havent gone browsing indexes since then
[2:35] <Tyrus_Perises> one thing worth mentioning is that I am quite new, only have had it up about 20 hrs so far
[2:35] <Tyrus_Perises> I have 12 peers
[2:35] <IMCensored1> 12 peers is where ya wanna be (between 10 - 15)
[2:36] <Tyrus_Perises> will most sites come up eventually for you?
[2:36] <IMCensored1> yea.. since youve only been up 20 hrs.. you really havent had time to fill your cache up yet...
[2:37] <IMCensored1> depending on how new your peers are... will determine how long it takes to fill your cache up
[2:40] <Tyrus_Perises> how large in size is freenet about?
[2:40] <Tyrus_Perises> like say put all of the content together, how big do you think that is?
[2:42] <IMCensored1> i dunno... it grows everyday... but the way your cache fills up is by fetching...
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[3:05] <OctobersDark> site TPI: The Public INDEX.7 updated to edition 102 is not loading here for me
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[4:11] <OctobersDark> Looks like The Public INDEX.7 is one to be avoided for now.
[4:13] <IMCensored1> yeszzir
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[6:45] <Adylas> Hello , I m curious, what is your "networkSizeEstimateSession" ? Mine is 540
[6:46] <anonymouse> 546
[6:46] <anonymouse> hah!
[6:46] <anonymouse> I know about 6 more nodes, I win.
[6:46] <Adylas> :-)
[6:46] <Adylas> Uptime ?
[6:46] <anonymouse> 1d8h
[6:47] <Adylas> nodeUptime: 1d6h
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[8:14] <OvrLrd-Q> so if we get 'Internal Error: please report" where exactly do we report that to?
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[11:30] <deev> hi
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[11:30] <deev> any mac users here?
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[11:38] <mhatta> hi
[11:39] <mhatta> could anyone tell me if Debian package of freenet 0.7 exists or not?
[11:40] <mhatta> I read most of freenet page & wiki and did som googling, but seems out of luck
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[13:40] <Beta_M> Freenet once again doesn't save requests/inserts
[13:40] <Beta_M> wtf?
[13:41] <Beta_M> Freenet 0.7 Build #1009 r11515 Freenet-ext Build #9 r11062
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[15:55] <Beta_M> helloooo
[15:55] <Beta_M> q;-(
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[16:07] <cbreak> hi
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[16:18] <sleon> is cygwin.com down ?
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[18:42] <Caco_Patane> Hallo
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[19:38] <coder> hello, when i try to start freenet vie /etc/init.d/freenet start ..I always get a Permission denied...can someone tel what can be the reason therefore?
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[19:41] <coder> freenet.node.Main -p /etc/freenet.conf ...is that right?
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[20:04] <IMCensored1> Beta_M: im running Freenet 0.7 Build #1009 r11518 ...
[20:05] <Beta_M> ok
[20:06] <IMCensored1> i'll see if it saves something
[20:07] <Beta_M> i might be wrong but for me it feel almost like it saves stuff whenever it feels like
[20:07] <Beta_M> there's defintitely almost no saves if the node crashes
[20:09] <IMCensored1> my node crashes between every 2 - 10 hrs.. the JVM constantly hangs... it takes 4 restart attempts worth of time before the JVM allows the node to restart
[20:10] <Beta_M> yeah, it is simmilar here when i have a lot of stuff running
[20:11] <Beta_M> i think it's the memory issue
[20:12] <IMCensored1> i want to switch off of sun's java because i think thats a problem too...
[20:13] <IMCensored1> but i dont wanna go to microsoft... IBM wont let me use theirs...
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[20:15] <Caco_Patane> I've tried Blackdown JVM and worked fine, it was about 4 months ago
[20:17] <IMCensored1> i wanted to switch over to Apache Harmony... i can get java and javaw to register as the default java paths... but programs still look for Sun's JVM
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[22:12] <Beta_M> IMCensored1: so have you been able to see if the crash saves the inserts?
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[22:14] <Scooby> has anybody got this version of freenet to function? cos i cannot seem to get people connecting to me!!
[22:16] <Beta_M> i have it running
[22:16] <Beta_M> what seems to be a problem for you?
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[22:17] <Scooby17480> On the configuration page all i get is a bunch of warnings!!
[22:17] <Beta_M> what sort of warnings?
[22:18] <Scooby17480> Saying i'm behind a NAT router! (which i know is okay) and the other about NO PEERS!!!
[22:18] <Beta_M> ok, do you know of anybody who runs freenet?
[22:18] <Beta_M> you need to exchange refs with somebody explicitely with this version
[22:18] <Beta_M> it's not done for you
[22:18] <Beta_M> this way you control the process
[22:19] <Scooby17480> Nah, thats the thing, everybody else don't know one end from a PCI slot to another!!!
[22:19] <Scooby17480> so i wanna use this, but haven't got anybody to connect to !!!
[22:19] <Beta_M> if you don't know anybody you can go to #freenet-refs and just trade
[22:20] <Scooby17480> cool beans!! will do, thanks Beta_M
[22:21] <Beta_M> no problem, i by joining the network you are helping me out, so i was actually helping myself by helping you
[22:23] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11523 /trunk/apps/Thaw/ (20 files in 8 dirs): Add icons to the index toolbar + change the behavior when clicking on 'remove all finished transfers'
[22:24] <Jflesch> 20 files ? hmmm
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[23:00] <Wibbles> is this a help channel?
[23:01] <Wibbles> -_-
[23:04] <OctobersDark> This channel helps you only if you already know the answer Wibbles ;-)
[23:05] <Wibbles> lol
[23:05] <Wibbles> well... can someone at least point me to a tech help page?
[23:05] <Wibbles> i dont know how to load plugins =' (
[23:05] <OctobersDark> hmm, have you checked out the FAQ page on the www?
[23:05] <Wibbles> yeah
[23:06] <OctobersDark> oh. plug-ins.
[23:06] <OctobersDark> they are not working
[23:06] <Wibbles> no?
[23:06] <OctobersDark> I think they are getting fixed, but i don't know really
[23:06] <Wibbles> oh okay ^.^
[23:08] <nextgens> they do work if you do use both latest trunk and latest version of them
[23:08] <nextgens> see http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetZeroPointSeven
[23:08] * nextgens heads to bed
[23:08] <Wibbles> i have 1009 and i just accidently unloaded librarian
[23:08] <OctobersDark> nn nextgens
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[23:09] <OctobersDark> you can point the load plug in box to the file on the www I believe Wibbles
[23:09] <OctobersDark> do you have the address of the latest libraian plug in?
[23:10] <Wibbles> nope
[23:10] <OctobersDark> ok, let me see if i can find it
[23:10] <Wibbles> thank you ^.^
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[23:11] <Wibbles> and when i clicked "visit" the plugin, i kept getting an internal error
[23:11] <Wibbles> so i thought i would unload, then load it again
[23:13] <OctobersDark> Wibbles: try to point it here: http://mirror1.freenetproject.org/alpha/plugins/Librarian/Librarian-r11334.jar
[23:13] <OctobersDark> see if it loads for you
[23:13] <Wibbles> nope
[23:14] <OctobersDark> ok, so you can d/l the plug in then and use the local pointer then
[23:14] <Wibbles> kk
[23:14] <Wibbles> thanks
[23:14] <OctobersDark> it is that funny @// thing
[23:14] <Wibbles> yeah, i tried adding @url:/// to the beginning of that XD
[23:15] <OctobersDark> just use the http first Wibbles, try putting the http address into the box to load it
[23:15] <Wibbles> i did, THEN i tried messing with it = /
[23:15] <OctobersDark> oh, ok then'
[23:15] <OctobersDark> :-)
[23:18] <Wibbles> no luck -_- i think im typing the wrong thing
[23:18] <Wibbles> is it like @file:///Program Files/Freenet/Plugins/Whatever.jar?
[23:23] <OctobersDark> yeah...it is, what is your OS? you might need one less "/" in the path
[23:23] <Wibbles> Windows XP
[23:24] <OctobersDark> try one less "/"
[23:25] <OctobersDark> and assuming you downloaded it to your Program Files/Freenet/Plugins/ folder
[23:25] <Wibbles> yeah
[23:25] <OctobersDark> yep
[23:25] <Wibbles> still not working....
[23:25] <Wibbles> it pauses a second then doesn nothing
[23:25] <OctobersDark> are you using the most up to date node?
[23:26] <Wibbles> 1009
[23:26] <OctobersDark> yep
[23:26] <Beta_M> weird, freenet finally remembered which files i had downloading... but still doesn't restart them from the correct position
[23:26] <Beta_M> q;-(
[23:26] <OctobersDark> the guy who could probably help most just went to bed
[23:26] <Wibbles> -_o
[23:26] <OctobersDark> sorry Wibbles
[23:27] <Wibbles> its cool, thanks for helping out though
[23:27] <Wibbles> ill just throw my computer out the window ^.^
[23:27] <OctobersDark> eh, window? small loss :-)
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[23:27] <Wibbles> haha
[23:27] <OctobersDark> use a linux computer next time
[23:27] <OctobersDark> :-)
[23:28] <OctobersDark> seriously, if you ever want to try, I would suggest trying out an Ubuntu live CD
[23:28] <Wibbles> rawr, i uninstalled FC6 to make room for Freenet
[23:28] <Wibbles> meh, ubuntu = /
[23:28] <OctobersDark> you can give it a test drive and it won't change a thing on you hard drive, unless you want it too
[23:29] <OctobersDark> don't like it huh?
[23:29] <OctobersDark> is it because it is brown all ovr?
[23:29] <OctobersDark> :-)
[23:29] <Wibbles> and because im used to FC
[23:29] <Wibbles> and because my cd drive is slooow
[23:30] <OctobersDark> I see
[23:30] <Wibbles> @file://Program Files/Freenet/plugins/Librarian.jar
[23:30] <Wibbles> shouldnt that work?
[23:30] <Wibbles> or do i have to include drive name somewhere
[23:30] <OctobersDark> I need to go look at the page
[23:30] <OctobersDark> just a sec
[23:31] <PasDNick> anyone here has an idea on what 'concentric' circles could mean on the 'Node Location Distribution' graph under statistics page? (DS 25% full, 1d22h uptime)
[23:31] <OctobersDark> you are doing it wrong Wibbles
[23:31] <Wibbles> dont concentric circles share the same center?
[23:31] <OctobersDark> it is *@file:///path/to/plugin/Librarian.jar
[23:31] <Wibbles> i tried that
[23:31] <OctobersDark> don't forget the splat key
[23:32] <OctobersDark> you used the asterisk?
[23:32] <Wibbles> nope thats in there
[23:32] <Wibbles> OH!!!!!!!!
[23:32] <OctobersDark> oh
[23:32] <OctobersDark> :-)
[23:32] <Wibbles> ffs
[23:33] <OctobersDark> is it working now Wibbles ?
[23:33] <Wibbles> nope ^.^ but at least im one step closer
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[23:33] <Wibbles> WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:33] <OctobersDark> concentric circles do share the same center
[23:33] <OctobersDark> woot? woot? woot is good.
[23:33] <Wibbles> *qeue battle victory music from FF7*
[23:34] <Wibbles> thanks guy ^.^
[23:34] <PasDNick> OctobersDark: (concentric circles) hrm .. indeed, but ... so ... what does the circle means in the freenet .7 world then ? :)
[23:35] <OctobersDark> I am not afraid to tell you, as an expert, that I do not know PasDNick
[23:35] <OctobersDark> Wibbles knows, but he aint tellin'
[23:35] <PasDNick> OctobersDark: :) ok, thanks .. i'll see in the next day (if fnet don't crash until then) if one more circle appear on that graph :)
[23:35] <Wibbles> yeah.... im a freakin Freenet genious.... lol
[23:35] <OctobersDark> heh :-)
[23:35] <Wibbles> do you have to enable advanced darknet to see that
[23:36] <OctobersDark> I think so, but my advanced has always been enabled :-)
[23:36] <OctobersDark> well, since early on at least
[23:36] <Wibbles> sweet i see it
[23:36] * Gasi (n=chatzill@) Quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.6/2006103003]")
[23:36] <PasDNick> Wibbles: indeed, mine's enabled too, probably from the initial setup of .7
[23:38] <Wibbles> i have another problem =' (
[23:38] <Wibbles> i cant use librarian = /
[23:38] <OctobersDark> yeah, but you said you liked windows Wibbles
[23:38] <Wibbles> ohh.....
[23:38] <OctobersDark> oh, something different?
[23:38] <Beta_M> Wibbles: most plugins are broken
[23:39] <Beta_M> so you realy can't use librarian now
[23:39] <Wibbles> wait, does that mean i have be on linux
[23:39] <Wibbles> kk
[23:39] <Wibbles> any searches that do work?
[23:39] <OctobersDark> I don't use it, so I can't tell you if any searches work wib
[23:40] <Wibbles> brb gf wants to come over
[23:40] <Wibbles> thanks for the help, if you log = )
[23:40] <OctobersDark> I mainly stick with frost and the somewhat updated indexes
[23:40] <OctobersDark> have fun
[23:40] <OctobersDark> take pictures and post them in freenet
[23:41] <OctobersDark> :-)
[23:41] <Wibbles> lolol
[23:41] <Wibbles> i should make a flog XD
[23:42] * Wibbles (i=user@) Quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")
[23:43] <OctobersDark> afaik Wibbles, the librarian plug in is based on the ENTRY POINT index
[23:43] <OctobersDark> crap, he's gone
[23:43] <OctobersDark> bye Wibbles

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