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[1:11] <Ralith> Can I just move my freenet dir over to another computer and have it work fine?
[1:21] <toad_> Ralith: pretty much
[1:21] <Ralith> cool.
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[1:25] <CIA-14> toad * r11311 /trunk/freenet/AUTHORS: replace jogy's real addr with a disguised version of the redirect
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[1:39] <Ralith> toad_, if I want it to be accessible from within my LAN, I have to have FNP and Fproxy bind to the LAN IP, right?
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[1:45] <Ralith> oh, he's gone
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[2:17] <Ralith> mf
[2:17] <Ralith> freenet needs to /say/ something if it doesn't start successfully (via run.sh)
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[2:22] <sadfa> anyone here?
[2:22] <sadfa> guess not.
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[5:00] <Appolo> hallo
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[5:58] -alindeman- [Global Notice] Hi all! As noted earlier, we're about to proceed with a massive upgrade of freenode's server code. This will cause a big outage, but hopefully only for a few seconds. For more information, check the news page: http://freenode.net/news.shtml
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[6:10] -alindeman- [Global Notice] Hi all! All affected servers have been restarted and the network should be returned to normal operation. However, if you notice any problems, please /msg an on-duty staffer in /stats p (or mail staff@freenode.net)
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[6:43] <Ralith> anyone here?
[6:50] <anonymouse> nope
[6:50] <anonymouse> what's up
[6:50] <BosHaus> whats the best way to upgrade your node?
[6:50] <BosHaus> I see some people are running 1007, I"m on 1006
[6:51] <anonymouse> i have the auto updater on, and it just works
[6:51] <BosHaus> hmm.. thought I did too
[6:51] <BosHaus> restart neede4d?
[6:51] <anonymouse> unknown
[6:51] <anonymouse> mine restarts enough that i don't know how to tell =)
[6:51] <BosHaus> heheh
[6:51] <BosHaus> mines been up since the first time I started it a week ago :)
[6:52] <BosHaus> I assume it needs a reboot
[6:52] <BosHaus> I'd figure it'd let you know it was ready to update after reboot though
[6:52] <anonymouse> i think i just set all the "do it yourself" options, and as far as i know, it just restarts itself when needed
[6:53] <BosHaus> well, rebooting now, I"ll see if it upgrades or not
[6:53] <anonymouse> whoa!
[6:53] <anonymouse> i was wrong boy
[6:54] <anonymouse> it hasn't been updating since 996 or something
[6:54] <BosHaus> eek
[6:54] <BosHaus> lol
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[6:55] <anonymouse> how retarded.. what's the point of automagic updates if they don't, like, update
[6:57] <BosHaus> heh
[6:57] <BosHaus> yeah, after rebooting it told me there was an update availible and it'd reboot after updating
[6:57] <BosHaus> err.. downloading
[7:01] <anonymouse> my node might have been stuck
[7:01] <anonymouse> it just said "downloading 1007"
[7:01] <anonymouse> oh goody! now the service crashes, since the update
[7:01] <anonymouse> welp, guess the new code is pretty awesome
[7:04] <anonymouse> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter
[7:04] <anonymouse> i wonder if i need to somehow update the wrapper separately
[7:09] <anonymouse> wah =( I can't figure out how to fix it
[7:09] <anonymouse> now my node is dead
[7:09] <anonymouse> my peers will be pissed
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[7:13] <BosHaus> nah
[7:14] <BosHaus> not for a short disconnect
[7:14] <BosHaus> I bet your peers were pissed you were on 996 :P
[7:14] <anonymouse> yes
[7:14] <anonymouse> one of them peer msg'd me
[7:14] <anonymouse> but i didn't see it because who goes into there
[7:15] <anonymouse> it was 994 also =)
[7:15] <anonymouse> i was remembering wrong
[7:15] <anonymouse> purged all .jars, re-updated
[7:15] <anonymouse> come on
[7:22] <anonymouse> YAY
[7:22] <anonymouse> that worked
[7:22] <anonymouse> "Should your node automatically update to the newest version of Freenet, without asking?"
[7:22] <anonymouse> I have that set to true
[7:24] <BosHaus> as did I
[7:30] <Ralith> mine's crashing regularly
[7:30] <Ralith> but restarts itself in a minute or so
[7:31] <BosHaus> I wish they showed like a % for node uptime
[7:31] <BosHaus> on the list of peers
[7:34] <Ralith> % routable is good enough for me
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[7:36] <BosHaus> oh, that in there somwhere?
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[10:03] <nextgens> WTF ?
[10:04] <nextgens> someone has messed up the DNS zone :<
[10:04] <nextgens> host emu.freenetproject.org
[10:04] <nextgens> emu.freenetproject.org has address 64.142.120.96
[10:04] <nextgens> emu.freenetproject.org has address 80.68.80.201
[10:04] <nextgens> emu.freenetproject.org has IPv6 address 2001:41c8:0:202::201
[10:04] <nextgens> emu.freenetproject.org has IPv6 address 2001:4bd0:2000:81::2
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[11:43] <fader> is there way to get a freebsd wrapper? as far as i can see, freenet is a linux/osx only appp
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[11:51] <_ph00> I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I suspect that it will work on BSD as long as you have a good java version
[11:52] <_ph00> BSD is unix anyway, just like linux ansd mac os
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[11:56] <fader> _ph00: it works, but it says "no native wrapper"
[11:56] <_ph00> but it does work
[11:56] <_ph00> that's the important thing
[11:56] <fader> i don't understand, why java devs allways taint the whole thing with native stuff
[11:57] <fader> isnt that the java idea
[11:57] <_ph00> test some features, see what works and what does not
[11:57] <fader> the updater doesnt work
[11:57] <_ph00> not even manually?
[11:57] <fader> manually?
[11:58] <_ph00> just download the latest freenet-latest-stable.jar from downloads.freenetproject.org
[11:58] <_ph00> rename it to freenet.jar and over write (back up the old one just in case)
[11:58] <_ph00> and restart freenet
[11:58] <fader> is this secure? hasnt the side been defaced?
[11:58] <_ph00> (should work)
[11:58] <_ph00> it's what the updating script does
[11:59] <fader> mmm, so one doesnt want automatic update anyways ;-)
[11:59] <fader> ok
[11:59] <_ph00> you can write you won script
[11:59] <_ph00> own
[11:59] <_ph00> anyways, for more details, you better ask some dev, I'm only a regular-joe user
[12:00] <fader> i did look at the wrappers, but they are binary
[12:00] <fader> so am i ;-)
[12:00] <_ph00> yes, that's why you want to ask the guys who actually code this thing
[12:00] <_ph00> they know better
[12:01] <_ph00> I think that manually downloading the .jar file should work just as good as running an update script or a auto update
[12:01] <fader> maybe, but linux-only sucks ;-)
[12:01] <_ph00> and if the provided scripts don't work on bsd, you can make your own if you know what has to be done: download, rename, restart
[12:01] <_ph00> it's not linux-only
[12:02] <_ph00> a lot of users run windows :(
[12:02] <_ph00> but almost all the devs use linux
[12:02] <nextgens> fader> you can recompile your own wrapper
[12:02] <_ph00> so the linux stuff is always the first out
[12:02] <fader> nextgens: ah, nice
[12:02] <nextgens> fader> http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/
[12:02] <nextgens> build up binaries & libraries
[12:03] <nextgens> but them in bin & lib and that will work
[12:03] <nextgens> put
[12:03] <fader> thx
[12:03] <fader> so i c this is actually a daemonizer on unix
[12:03] <nextgens> we do have a ticket for that on our bugtracker ...
[12:04] <nextgens> which OS are you using ?
[12:04] <nextgens> fbsd ?
[12:04] <fader> yes, 6.1 now
[12:04] <nextgens> ok
[12:05] <nextgens> well, we can't bundle and compile libraries for every OS ... but fbsd seems to be quite common
[12:05] <fader> now I do understand, why its native
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[12:06] <slinky> fader: run file on wrapper-freebsd-x86-32, mine says it's for 4.7. if you install compat4x it probably works.
[12:08] <fader> slinky: i dont have a binary, still downloading the src
[12:10] <slinky> no, the wrapper-freebsd-x86-32 that comes with freenet :)
[12:11] <fader> slinky: there was no such file in my install
[12:11] <fader> only linux and osx, different archs
[12:12] <slinky> maybe it got removed with newer freenet versions, but they never replaced it i guess
[12:17] <fader> might be the reason its still 4.x ;-)
[12:22] <fader> ah, nice
[12:22] <fader> 1007 now :-)
[12:22] <slinky> fader: if all else fails you can unzip from http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/selfextractpack.jar
[12:23] <fader> slinky: I've been successful compiling the wrapper
[12:23] <fader> slinky: ever tried to jail it?
[12:24] <slinky> no, good luck :)
[12:25] <fader> ;-)
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[13:56] <_ph00> freenet is not detecting my external nat address any more. It doesn't make a big difference because I can't port forward anyways, but it could be of ssome intrest to know that it did detct the external address bfore 1000. (sorry I can't pin point exactly whan it began. the physical udp line only shows the internal address now)
[13:58] <_ph00> it used to show both addresses on #999 and maybe on #100 too, but it surely didn't on #1006 and now on #1007 still not detected. No warning messages, no "you seem to be behind nat" messages, nothing)
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[14:41] <toad_> hi
[14:42] <davix> hello toad
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[14:46] <toad_> :)
[14:47] <nextgens> hi
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[14:47] <nextgens> [13:56] < _ph00> | freenet is not detecting my external nat address any more. It doesn't make a big difference because I can't port forward anyways, but it could be of ssome intrest to know that it did detct the external address bfore 1000. (sorry I can't pin point exactly whan it began. the physical udp line only shows the internal address now)
[14:47] <nextgens> [13:58] < _ph00> | it used to show both addresses on #999 and maybe on #100 too, but it surely didn't on #1006 and now on #1007 still not detected. No warning messages, no "you seem to be behind nat" messages, nothing)
[14:47] <nextgens> toad_> isn't that related to your changes on the plugin manager ?
[14:49] <toad_> nextgens: ask him if the STUN module is present
[14:49] <nextgens> _ph00> ^^
[14:49] <toad_> _ph00: is the STUN module loaded?
[14:49] <nextgens> toad_> btw, have you seen https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=984 ?
[14:50] <toad_> nextgens: one big change in 0.7 was that I fixed the plugin manager config, which had always dropped all plugins for me after a restart
[14:50] <toad_> i bet i filed it ... trying to load ...
[14:52] <toad_> hmmm my browser is stupid...
[14:52] <toad_> i set 200 connections, 100 per server, and it still doesn't like opening a bug at the same time as lots of freesites
[14:53] <toad_> nextgens: hmmm
[14:53] <toad_> nextgens: what was it pointing to?
[14:55] <nextgens> one of ian's website
[14:55] <nextgens> 64.142.120.96
[14:55] <sanity> wazzup?
[14:56] <nextgens> sanity> someone complained on frost and on mantis about http://freenetproject.org beeing defaced
[14:56] <sanity> looks ok to me...
[14:57] * nextgens checks the DNS zone
[14:57] <nextgens> yes, it's fine now ... but it has been modified
[14:57] <nextgens> according to the TTL at least
[14:57] <sanity> nextgens: i added /root/BytemarkDNS/thoof.com
[14:58] <sanity> it is possible i screwed something up and then fixed it
[14:58] <nextgens> ok, that's why then :)
[14:58] <sanity> but it is ok now?
[14:58] <nextgens> yes, it seems to be ok
[14:58] <sanity> that may also explain why i haven't been getting much email
[14:58] <sanity> this is not a good week for me for system administration...
[14:58] * nextgens suggest you set up a lower TTL on your dns zones
[14:58] <nextgens> so that if you screw things up, it can get fixed earlier
[14:58] <sanity> nextgens: feel free to make the change if you like
[14:59] <toad_> :)
[14:59] <nextgens> 'cause most of the users are behind ISP powered DNS caches
[14:59] <nextgens> and if one has been refreshed during the "bad" time window, it will remain broken until the TTL expires
[15:02] <toad_> hmmm how strange
[15:02] <toad_> i have all the right settings yet my browser is incapable of opening a bug while loading a bunch of freesites
[15:03] <toad_> maybe there's a hard limit ...
[15:06] * nextgens changes it to some really low value
[15:11] <_ph00> <toad_> _ph00: is the STUN module loaded? <= yes
[15:12] <toad_> margin-left:-620px;<br>
[15:12] <toad_> became<br>
[15:12] <toad_> margin-left:/* Deleted unofficial ident */;
[15:12] <toad_> hmmm
[15:12] <toad_> how is that possible? -620px does not match UNOFFICIAL_IDENT; they must start with a letter after the dash
[15:12] <toad_> _ph00: hmmm
[15:12] <toad_> _ph00: you sure it's loaded now?
[15:13] <_ph00> yes
[15:13] <_ph00> I double checked before answering
[15:14] <toad_> hmmm
[15:14] <toad_> and what's the symptom?
[15:14] <_ph00> doesn't detect the external nat address
[15:14] <toad_> it doesn't register changes of IP? it doesn't know what it's IP is at all?
[15:14] <_ph00> but as I said
[15:14] <_ph00> no biggie, as I can't port forward anyways
[15:14] <_ph00> that IP is not reachable
[15:15] <toad_> well yeah but it might be a bug for somebody else
[15:15] <toad_> how do you connect if that IP is not reachable?
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[15:15] <_ph00> no, I mean
[15:16] <_ph00> I connect to the isp on a wide area LAN
[15:16] <_ph00> WAN
[15:16] <_ph00> or whatever that's called
[15:16] <_ph00> and I get an IP
[15:16] <_ph00> on that non accessible range
[15:16] <_ph00> but I have a router, controlled by the ISP that doesn NAT
[15:16] <toad_> something on 10.x.y.z?
[15:16] <toad_> or 192.168.x.y?
[15:16] <_ph00> and the external address is not reachable
[15:17] <_ph00> neither
[15:17] <_ph00> my local ip is in the range 39.5
[15:17] <_ph00> and yes, it *is* weird
[15:17] <toad_> okay so you have a REAL INTERNET ADDRESS
[15:17] <toad_> yes?
[15:17] <_ph00> what you mean real?
[15:17] <toad_> I mean it's not in the official private ranges
[15:17] <_ph00> 39.5 is not on the internet
[15:18] <_ph00> no, I guess it's not
[15:18] <toad_> which are 192.168., 10., and 172-17something iirc
[15:18] <_ph00> but that's what they use
[15:18] <toad_> no, 39.5 is a real internet address
[15:18] <_ph00> and you can't connect to it thru the internet afaik
[15:18] <toad_> you may not have a real internet *connection*
[15:18] <toad_> in that you're not able to host servers, receive packets from IPs you haven't already sent to etc
[15:19] <toad_> but you have a real internet _address_
[15:19] <_ph00> well, afaik, 39.5 is not actually reserved, only non assigned (whihc could be a lot of throuble for ISP is it gets assigned)
[15:19] <toad_> non-assigned? there are any non-assigned addresses nowadays? that's wierd :)
[15:20] <toad_> anyway
[15:20] <toad_> please explain how this works
[15:20] <_ph00> that's what one guy said. anyways, when I tried to look it up on arin and ripe, I got 'reserved address'
[15:20] <toad_> your PC -> ISP's WAN (the ISP is abusing the internet IP allocation system) -> ISP's NAT
[15:20] <_ph00> it works exactly like 192 and 10
[15:20] <_ph00> the only difference is that it's 39
[15:21] <toad_> so you will have a real IP address on the other side of the NAT, and your outgoing packets will appear to come from that
[15:21] <toad_> correct?
[15:21] <_ph00> yes
[15:21] <toad_> in which case, JSTUN would detect the external IP, not the middle one
[15:21] <_ph00> there is no middle, only internal and external
[15:21] <ShipHead> Anyone know of a public fproxy?
[15:22] <_ph00> and only the internal is detected
[15:22] <toad_> if it was detecting the middle one, something wierd's happening ... e.g. the STUN server might actually be on the internal network
[15:22] <toad_> _ph00: so what is the current situation?
[15:22] <_ph00> what you mean the middle one?
[15:22] <_ph00> current sit?
[15:22] <_ph00> it works
[15:22] <_ph00> almost all my peers are connected
[15:22] <toad_> _ph00: which address does it detect?
[15:22] <toad_> or which address did it detect that it doesn't detect now?
[15:23] <_ph00> I lost connection with 2 of them (out of ~25)
[15:23] <_ph00> the external on. the address that my packets 'appear' to be coming from
[15:23] * nextgens doesn't get what _ph00 means
[15:23] <_ph00> and only the real address the one that ID me to the ISP server, that is detecdted
[15:23] <toad_> okay
[15:24] <toad_> so your node knows the external address
[15:24] <toad_> it picks it up from one of your peers
[15:24] <toad_> previously, STUN was detecting the internal address?
[15:25] <toad_> hmmm
[15:25] <_ph00> no, the other way around. previously both addresses were detected, but now the only detected one is the 39.5 address, the one tha's the *real* IP, not the "apparent" IP
[15:25] <toad_> it is taking literally forever to fetch anything ... hmmmmmm
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[15:25] <toad_> _ph00: i thought 39.5 was the internal address?
[15:25] <_ph00> it is
[15:26] <toad_> _ph00: the address on the other side of the NAT is the real address
[15:26] <_ph00> and that's the only one that shows up in the physical udp line
[15:26] <toad_> well how does it see 39.5 if that's not visible to your peers?
[15:26] <toad_> it sounds to me like it's far more likely that 39.5 is your real external IP
[15:26] <_ph00> OK, the address on the other side of the line is the 'internet' address, and that's the router's address, anyways
[15:26] <toad_> please fetch my webpage, http://amphibian.dyndns.org/
[15:27] <toad_> i'll see what address you come from
[15:27] <_ph00> but OK, if the address where I appear to be is the real one, then the real address is not detected
[15:27] <toad_> seems extremely unlikely
[15:27] <toad_> please fetch the url
[15:27] <nextgens> toad_> http://whatismyip.com/
[15:27] <_ph00> I can tell you what you'll see: an address in the 85.18 range
[15:27] <toad_> that's the IP of your ISP's transparent proxy?
[15:28] <nextgens> _ph00> do it anyway
[15:28] <_ph00> the 85.18 address is *not* detected by the node
[15:28] <toad_> nextgens: does it listen on any other port?
[15:28] <_ph00> toads page fatched w/ konqueror
[15:28] <toad_> _ph00: it wouldn't be connecting at all if what you say was right...
[15:29] <toad_> okay, i see a fetch from 85.18.something
[15:29] <toad_> hmmm
[15:29] <_ph00> what I'm saying is only that in the physical udp line I only see my local adress
[15:29] <toad_> try to ssh into my computer
[15:29] <_ph00> the 39.5 address
[15:29] <toad_> that will bypass the transparent proxy
[15:29] <toad_> _ph00: that's impossible afaics
[15:30] <toad_> _ph00: ssh toad@amphibian.dyndns.org (or just telnet to port 22)
[15:30] <_ph00> well, it's impossible but that's what I see: only the 39.5 address
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[15:30] <toad_> _ph00: it'll fail, but it'll log your outgoing IP address
[15:30] <_ph00> passw?
[15:31] <toad_> _ph00: it's intended to fail
[15:31] <_ph00> ok
[15:31] <toad_> that shows 85.18 too
[15:31] <toad_> hmmm
[15:31] <toad_> who are you connected to?
[15:31] <_ph00> of course it does
[15:31] <toad_> are you connected to me?
[15:31] <_ph00> that's what I'm saying
[15:31] <toad_> your connection to me shows 88.198!
[15:31] <_ph00> I have a browser pageopen, and the ssh is hanging (I didnt type any pw yet)
[15:31] <toad_> is that another computer?
[15:31] <_ph00> woah?
[15:31] <_ph00> 88.198?
[15:32] <_ph00> where did that come from?
[15:32] <toad_> CONNECTED sleon 88.198...
[15:32] <toad_> oh
[15:32] <toad_> you're ph00
[15:32] <toad_> doh
[15:32] <_ph00> right
[15:32] <toad_> what's your node called?
[15:32] <_ph00> zaphod
[15:32] <toad_> well, are you connected to me? to nextgens? to anyone easily accessible?
[15:32] <toad_> okay that shows 85.18
[15:32] <_ph00> and it is connected to you
[15:33] <_ph00> yes
[15:33] <toad_> and you're telling me that your node reference only includes 39.5?!
[15:33] <_ph00> yes
[15:33] <nextgens> what about renaming your node to something meaningfull ?
[15:33] <toad_> your ref says 39.5, 213.140
[15:33] <_ph00> not only I'm telling you that, but I'm trying to tell you that since half an hour :P
[15:33] <nextgens> toad_> grab his ARK and you'll see
[15:34] <toad_> _ph00: you ever had 213.140?
[15:34] <_ph00> toad_: 213.140 used to be my IP. the ISP changed ot a couple of weeks ago
[15:34] <_ph00> yes I did have that
[15:35] <Apophis2> a long long time ago :) I can still remember how that IP used to make me smile
[15:35] <_ph00> and sometimes I have 62.101, which is a server where I can listen for inbound connections, but I only use some pre-paid hours (20 a month)
[15:35] <toad_> _ph00: what's your inserted ARK number?
[15:35] <_ph00> let's see
[15:35] <toad_> it will be in your node fiel
[15:35] <toad_> file
[15:36] <_ph00> checking
[15:36] <_ph00> Apophis2: what's so funny with 213.140?
[15:37] <_ph00> ark.number=98
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[15:38] <Apophis2> nothing :) My brain was just in idle mode and this song went through when I read your conversation
[15:39] <toad_> _ph00: is there anything wierd about your freenet.ini?
[15:39] <_ph00> huh... I would I know? what you mean weird? I can't tell what's weird because I don't know whow that's supposed to look like
[15:39] <toad_> _ph00: well pastebin it
[15:39] * nextgens translates: have you set ipAddressOverride
[15:39] <_ph00> k
[15:40] <_ph00> huh
[15:40] <_ph00> ko
[15:40] <toad_> _ph00: then set your detailed logging thresholds to freenet.node.NodeIP:minor
[15:40] <_ph00> yes
[15:40] <toad_> _ph00: you set ipAddressOverride to 39.5... ? :)
[15:40] <_ph00> I did set IP override when I saw that the external address was no detecdted
[15:40] <_ph00> but now it's not set
[15:40] <_ph00> no
[15:40] <toad_> well you set it to 39.5?
[15:40] <_ph00> I did set IP override to 85.18
[15:40] <toad_> ok
[15:41] <toad_> well pastebin your current freenet.ini
[15:41] <toad_> privmsg me it if you need privacy
[15:41] <_ph00> and then the physical udp line shjowed both addresses
[15:41] <toad_> then set your detailed logging thresholds to freenet.node.NodeIP:minor
[15:41] <nextgens> maybe he is connected to someone else using the same ISP
[15:41] <nextgens> behind the same nat
[15:41] <_ph00> that's no problem, tthe "world" knows who I am already (those who are nosy enough to chek it out, anyway)
[15:41] <toad_> yes but *everyone* he's connected to isn't on the same ISP...
[15:42] <toad_> _ph00: are a majority of your peers on the same ISP?
[15:42] * _ph00 pastebinst his freenet ini
[15:42] <_ph00> no
[15:42] <_ph00> maybe one
[15:42] <_ph00> and not on the same lan
[15:42] <toad_> _ph00: grep your logs/freenet-*.log for "thinks we are"
[15:42] <_ph00> huh?
[15:43] <toad_> search for the string "thinks we are" (no quotes) in your logs/freenet-previous.log
[15:43] <toad_> or logs/freenet-latest.log
[15:43] <toad_> backslash rather than forwardslash if on windows
[15:44] <_ph00> freenet.ini http://pastebin.ca/273076
[15:44] <_ph00> it's linux
[15:44] <_ph00> can you tell me the exact line
[15:44] <_ph00> ?
[15:44] <toad_> node.databaseMaxMemory = 0? does that mean default?
[15:45] <_ph00> grep oogs/freenet.* thinks we are?
[15:45] <_ph00> logs?
[15:45] <toad_> _ph00: cat logs/freenet-previous.log | grep "thinks we are"
[15:45] <_ph00> k
[15:45] <toad_> assuming your log level is NORMAL or MINOR
[15:45] <_ph00> I think it's NORMAL
[15:46] <_ph00> well I did that but I got no output, where should I look?
[15:46] <_ph00> (maybe the log level is sometrhing else....)
[15:46] <toad_> check latest.log too
[15:46] <toad_> check your log level
[15:46] <_ph00> k
[15:46] <toad_> it needs to be at least NORMAL
[15:47] <_ph00> it is NORMAL (just checked)
[15:47] <_ph00> let's see latest.log
[15:48] <toad_> reload the darknet page to force a redetection
[15:48] <_ph00> k
[15:48] <nextgens> ok, we have a problem on the Librarian mirroring system
[15:49] <toad_> _ph00: grep for NodeIPDetector
[15:49] <toad_> _ph00: does that show anything?
[15:50] <_ph00> nope
[15:51] <_ph00> (I used the same line as before with 'thinks we are')
[15:51] <_ph00> also searched for 'thinks we are' and 'think' in latest.log: nothing
[15:51] <toad_> hmmm
[15:51] <toad_> you grepped both?
[15:51] <_ph00> huh...
[15:51] <_ph00> wait
[15:51] <toad_> grep <blah> logs/*.log ?
[15:51] <_ph00> maybe I di something wrong
[15:52] <toad_> grep "thinks we are" logs/freenet*.log
[15:52] <toad_> also what was your log level set to?
[15:52] <_ph00> NORMAL
[15:52] <toad_> ok
[15:52] <toad_> then go back in time
[15:52] <_ph00> retrying (I was only looking at previous.log)
[15:52] <toad_> zgrep "thinks we are" logs/*.log.gz
[15:53] <_ph00> lots of stuff...
[15:53] <toad_> pastebin it
[15:53] <toad_> or email me it
[15:53] <_ph00> k
[15:53] <toad_> keep it private anyway; your peers may not appreciate leaking their ip's
[15:53] <toad_> except to me!ahahahahahaahah!
[15:54] <toad_> well, give me the output of zgrep NodeIPDetector logs/*.log.gz
[15:54] <toad_> that's the most interesting outptu
[15:54] <toad_> output
[15:54] <toad_> brb
[15:55] <_ph00> http://pastebin.ca/273088
[15:56] <_ph00> oops. maybe I should read all the messages before posting the next one
[15:56] <_ph00> (will expire relatively soon tho)
[15:58] <_ph00> "thinks we are thinks we are 85.18 etc" on all lines
[15:58] <_ph00> yet only 39.5 shows up in the physical udp line
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[16:03] <toad_> 1sec
[16:03] <toad_> _ph00: is that grep "thinks we are" or grep "NodeIPDetector" ?
[16:03] <toad_> _ph00: please do the latter
[16:03] <_ph00> it is
[16:03] <_ph00> the latter
[16:04] <nextgens> toad_> when loading Librarian, the only message I get is : "Invalid stylesheet"
[16:07] <toad_> _ph00: hmmm ok
[16:07] <toad_> _ph00: did you set the logleveldetails i said earlier?
[16:07] <toad_> _ph00: if so, shut down the node, move the old logs out of the way, and restart it
[16:08] <toad_> _ph00: if not, go to config, find "detailed logging thresholds", and set it to "freenet.node.NodeIP:minor"
[16:08] <toad_> (no quotes)
[16:08] <toad_> then do the above
[16:08] <_ph00> logleveldetals, is the log level? the one that should be set to NORMAL=
[16:08] <toad_> no, it's the next setting iirc
[16:08] <_ph00> set to minor
[16:08] <_ph00> ok
[16:09] <toad_> log level to minor is the easy way yes but it'll slow everything down and generate huge log files
[16:09] <toad_> hmmm, one peer is on the same ISP it seems
[16:09] <toad_> but all the rest show 85.
[16:09] <nextgens> toad_> clicking "Visit" from the /plugins/ page
[16:10] <toad_> nextgens: :(
[16:11] <_ph00> toad_: OK I set it to freenet.node.NodeIP:minor. NO, what you mean by moving the logs out of the way? should I mve all the .log files?
[16:11] <toad_> move the logs directory
[16:11] <_ph00> k
[16:11] <nextgens> well, you set formPassword but not the stylesheet :/
[16:11] <toad_> nextgens: it shouldn't need it
[16:11] <nextgens> toad_> may you investigate ?
[16:11] <nextgens> do you need logs ? anything ?
[16:11] <_ph00> and restart the node
[16:12] <toad_> nextgens: it isn't set ... why isn't it null?
[16:12] <toad_> nextgens: i can replicate it here, no problem
[16:13] <toad_> _ph00: done?
[16:13] <_ph00> yup
[16:13] <toad_> _ph00: everyone reconnected now?
[16:13] <_ph00> should I send you the latest log
[16:13] <_ph00> let's see
[16:13] <toad_> yes, that would be nice
[16:13] <toad_> that's the other reason why i suggested setting detailed settings ... the file will be huge...
[16:14] <_ph00> yeah, looks good. 25 connected out of 30
[16:15] <toad_> ok send me the file
[16:16] <_ph00> I PM'd the pastebin address
[16:16] <toad_> _ph00: does it still show the wrong IP in the ref?
[16:16] <_ph00> yes
[16:16] <_ph00> still 39.5 only
[16:22] <toad_> okay, try this build ...
[16:22] <CIA-14> toad * r11312 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/NodeIPDetector.java: NodeIPDetector wasn't counting the popularity of IP's correctly.
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[16:24] <toad_> _ph00: get 11312, it should fix the problem
[16:25] <aleph00> do you guys use Eclipse to develop?
[16:25] * nextgens is looking towards r11313
[16:25] <_ph00> toad_: update testing?
[16:25] <nextgens> aleph00> it depends : nvi is our favourite editor
[16:26] <aleph00> hmm
[16:26] <CIA-14> toad * r11313 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/NodeIPDetector.java: Include an IP if two nodes agree on it (and it's the most popular or second most popular).
[16:26] <toad_> _ph00: yes
[16:26] <toad_> nextgens: huh?
[16:26] <toad_> _ph00: please tell me it works...
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[16:27] <aleph00> just downloaded the code from svn... there are some eclipse prefs here.. like 1.4 source compliance
[16:28] <toad_> aleph00: the node is 1.4, some of the plugins are 1.5
[16:28] <_ph00> toad_: it's detecting both addresses now. :)
[16:28] <toad_> _ph00: yay
[16:28] <toad_> another one bites the dust...
[16:29] <nextgens> da do di, da da da
[16:29] <aleph00> :)
[16:30] <aleph00> is there a specific reason for the node being 1.4?
[16:30] <nextgens> gcj compatibility
[16:30] <nextgens> freejvm support to be more specific
[16:31] <nextgens> as the stable gnu/classpath does support only 1.4 yet
[16:31] <toad_> well to be less specific :)
[16:31] <toad_> yeah, it could be a while before GCJX is in a released GCJ
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[16:32] <CIA-14> toad * r11314 /trunk/plugins/Librarian/Librarian.java: Fix Invalid stylesheet error when visiting Librarian.
[16:32] <toad_> nextgens: :)
[16:34] <nextgens> aleph00> btw, why are you asking ? are you planning to contribute ? :)
[16:34] <aleph00> yes i am
[16:34] <nextgens> cool
[16:34] <aleph00> I work with Java
[16:34] <toad_> the more the merrier...
[16:34] <toad_> any particular area that interests you?
[16:34] <aleph00> but this will be my first opensource project
[16:34] <aleph00> hehe
[16:35] <aleph00> well, I'm still studying how FreeNet works
[16:35] <toad_> du -h logs-dark
[16:35] <toad_> 11G logs-dark
[16:35] <toad_> woah
[16:35] <aleph00> the routing part interests me
[16:36] <toad_> cool
[16:36] <aleph00> the plugins are in a package inside the freenet project.. but they have 1.5 compliance
[16:36] <toad_> you should join the devl list and have a look at the simulations going on...
[16:36] <aleph00> just did :)
[16:36] <toad_> aleph00: yeah, they're sort of merged
[16:37] <toad_> aleph00: there's a symbolic link in the SVN repository
[16:37] <aleph00> i'm a mathematician. Hope I can help
[16:37] <fridim> I've a question about the 1.4 compatibility : Since java is opensource now, won't we see gcj taking 1.5 capabilities ?
[16:37] <toad_> aleph00: cool
[16:38] <nextgens> fridim> they have been a lots of debates about it on java@gnu
[16:38] <toad_> fridim: the open source java is version 7, so it's far from being ready for general use
[16:38] <nextgens> fridim> the short answer is "no"
[16:38] <toad_> fridim: GCJ will have support for 1.5 eventually anyway
[16:38] <fridim> yes, I suppose my question is out of range.
[16:38] <toad_> the new front end has been planned for ages
[16:38] <toad_> it's called GCJX
[16:38] <toad_> it's written even but it needs some debugging etc
[16:39] <nextgens> atm they are working on the compiler part iirc
[16:39] <toad_> that has 1.5 support
[16:39] <toad_> it was supposed to go into GCJ 4.1
[16:39] <nextgens> the ecj branch merging
[16:39] <toad_> it didn't
[16:39] <toad_> nextgens: i thought ecj was the eclipse java compiler?
[16:39] <nextgens> it is
[16:39] <toad_> nextgens: so they've dropped GCJX then?
[16:40] <nextgens> I guess yes
[16:40] <toad_> does ecj parse bytecode?
[16:40] <nextgens> dunno
[16:40] <toad_> GCJ will need to be able to do bytecode to binary as well as source to binary
[16:45] <toad_> aleph00: well, anything you need, just ask...
[16:45] <aleph00> :)
[16:45] <aleph00> how do i get the devl messages from november and december gege
[16:45] <aleph00> hehe
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[16:45] <toad_> through the archives?
[16:45] <nextgens> http://archives.freenetproject.org/splash/index.en.html
[16:46] <aleph00> the archives only have up to october i think
[16:46] <toad_> hmmm that's bad...
[16:46] <nextgens> hmm ?
[16:46] <aleph00> hmm i think i was at the wrong site
[16:46] <aleph00> nvm
[16:46] <nextgens> hmm
[16:46] <aleph00> http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/
[16:46] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11315 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Cleaning some part of the index code
[16:46] <nextgens> pipermail is broken :/
[16:46] <aleph00> aha
[16:47] <aleph00> i subscribed thorugh pipermail.. is that bad?
[16:47] <nextgens> no, that ought to work
[16:47] <nextgens> toad_> sanity_> maybe we ought to create an "emu" project an mantis and write there down any issue we have noticed
[16:48] <toad_> nextgens: usually they go under website
[16:48] <toad_> or occasionally build-security
[16:49] <nextgens> Jflesch> didn't you forget an import ?
[16:50] <toad_> br
[16:50] <toad_> brb
[16:50] <Jflesch> nextgens: no, I forget to change a call to new IndexTree()
[16:51] <Jflesch> s/forget/forgot/
[16:55] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11316 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/ (IndexManagementHelper.java IndexSelecter.java IndexTree.java): Fix compilation
[16:55] * sanity_ is now known as sanity
[16:55] * ChanServ sets mode +o sanity
[17:00] <Jflesch> toad_: should I put .fridx extension to the thaw indexes ?
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[17:02] <toad_> Jflesch: what about .frdx?
[17:02] <toad_> i thought we'd agreed on that
[17:02] <Jflesch> toad_: hem, dunno .. I'm just reading the bug report #962
[17:03] <toad_> i think frdx makes sense, somebody suggested it on frost, and it's not taken according to filext.com
[17:03] <toad_> fidx is taken several times over on the other hand
[17:04] <Jflesch> fidx seems to be used, but not fridx ? no ?
[17:05] <toad_> fidx is taken
[17:05] <toad_> fridx is clear
[17:05] <toad_> frdx is also clear
[17:05] <toad_> frdx is shorter
[17:06] <nextgens> we should use always the same length imo
[17:06] <nextgens> fref is 4 chars
[17:06] <toad_> yes
[17:06] <Jflesch> fblob is 5 ... :)
[17:06] <toad_> hence fref, frdx and flob
[17:06] <Jflesch> oh
[17:06] * Jflesch will update his mime type list
[17:07] <CIA-14> nextgens * r11317 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/io/comm/IOStatisticCollector.java: Fix a NPE in IOStatisticCollector ... btw, why aren't we using a mutex and iterating there ?
[17:08] <nextgens> toad_> is there any reason why we aren't using an iterator there ?
[17:08] <toad_> i dunno
[17:08] * toad_ looks...
[17:08] <toad_> where?
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[17:09] <nextgens> toad_> io/comm/IOStatisticCollector
[17:09] <nextgens> rotate()
[17:10] <toad_> nextgens: synchronization reasons maybe?
[17:10] <nextgens> the linkedHashMap isn't synchronized anyway
[17:10] <nextgens> :)
[17:10] <CIA-14> jflesch * r11318 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/ (index/Index.java insertPlugin/DefaultMIMETypes.java): Update MIME types and index extension
[17:11] <nextgens> if we aren't synchronizing during the toArray, it's useless imo
[17:11] <toad_> well yeah but maybe we were supposed to be?
[17:15] * toad_ wonders why his hard disk is so slow...
[17:17] <Jflesch> toad_: because of frost maybe ?
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[17:19] <toad_> Jflesch: it ought to be able to zgrep through 11GB in less than 5 minutes!
[17:21] * nextgens goes back to his AI project
[17:22] <Jflesch> toad_: currently my frost has 443 file descriptors opened ... it makes my hard drive access a little bit slower :)
[17:22] <toad_> hmmm
[17:22] * toad_ closes Frost
[17:22] <Jflesch> (23 for the node)
[17:23] <Jflesch> oops
[17:23] <Jflesch> not 23
[17:23] <toad_> 2300?
[17:23] <Jflesch> 260
[17:23] <Jflesch> and 16 for thaw \o/ :)
[17:25] <Jflesch> when I stop refreshing frost board, the node has only 60 file descriptors opened, so 200 were due to frost
[17:26] <Jflesch> s/board/boards/
[17:27] <toad_> yeah, those 200 were connections from frost to fred :)
[17:27] <toad_> fd's include sockets
[17:28] <Jflesch> toad_: yes, but I wonder if frost keep the file descriptors (for real files, not socket) opened when it's downloading new messages
[17:29] <Jflesch> anyway, since I move frost to another hard drive, my / (which is on a raid1) works a little better :)
[17:29] <Jflesch> s/move/moved/
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[17:40] <Phreaker27> Yo people. Whats up?
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[17:42] <sich> yop
[17:43] <nextgens> lait
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[17:44] <Danilo> ciao a tutti
[17:44] <Phreaker27> Anyone in here run win server 2003 x64 w/ xdcc serv?
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[17:47] <BrianB04> Hello all.
[17:47] <Phreaker27> yo
[17:48] <BrianB04> How goes it today in here?
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[17:48] <Phreaker27> Dunno, just got here
[17:49] <Phreaker27> lookin for someone with win server 2003 w/ xdcc server
[17:49] <Phreaker27> x64
[17:49] * nextgens sets mode -o nextgens
[17:49] <nextgens> may I ask why you are looking for that here on #freenet ?
[17:49] <nextgens> what about trying ##windows ?
[17:50] <Phreaker27> i seen someone talking about it on logs that came up in google
[17:56] <CIA-14> toad * r11319 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[17:56] <CIA-14> Each fproxy GET started gets a separate clientContext, so they are round-robin'ed over.
[17:56] <CIA-14> (So that one large fproxy request doesn't block lots of them)
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[18:11] <Joe2> Hello
[18:11] <Joe2> I have 4 refreances that are 'connected'
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[18:12] <Docks> I can't get frost working, it can't find my node. Anyone know why? Just using the defaults on everything
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[18:12] <Joe2> nothing on indica works
[18:13] <Gimli> im creating a stable node - anything I should know ?
[18:13] <Joe2> I can send meseges, and get to most pages on indica and other links, but not get at the images\files etc...
[18:13] <Joe2> just gets stuck on loading...
[18:13] <Joe2> using IE
[18:13] <Gimli> dont use IE on freenet - and have patience :)
[18:13] <Joe2> usually I use firefox but I have been told not to for this
[18:13] <toad_> images/files/etc?
[18:14] <toad_> Joe2: who told you not to use firefox?
[18:14] <toad_> Joe2: using IE with freenet is a security risk
[18:14] <Joe2> well, Ive tried both IE and Firefox and neather work
[18:14] <Joe2> ok
[18:14] <Joe2> Im going back to firefox
[18:14] <toad_> well
[18:14] <toad_> you go to Indicia
[18:14] <toad_> Indicia itself loads, with all images
[18:14] <toad_> right?
[18:14] <Gimli> what you do is you wait :)
[18:15] <Docks> If you just installed freenet, just wait
[18:15] <toad_> there's a brown icon on the main page, the sites have wierd fake-paper boxes, etc?
[18:15] <Gimli> e.g. - go to a page you want to see, then go away for a couple of minutes
[18:15] <toad_> in the list
[18:15] <Joe2> indica loads with most images\ alltext
[18:15] <Gimli> then try the page again :)
[18:15] <Joe2> however
[18:15] <Joe2> when I goto a section and click the link
[18:15] <Docks> And if someone told you to use IE, don't consider that person to be a friend any longer :)
[18:15] <toad_> if you go to All Sites, you get a big page full of sites, most of which have images pointing to them
[18:15] <toad_> do most of those load?
[18:16] <toad_> i mean the images themselves?
[18:16] <toad_> or do just the generic ones load? (the paper backdrop, the one that says ActiveLink, the one that says censored) ?
[18:16] <Joe2> all sites is the only link on the left that wont load
[18:16] <BrianB04> I'm just curious: What does IE do to cause a security risk on Freenet?
[18:16] <toad_> the All Sites page doesn't load at all?
[18:17] <toad_> BrianB04: it doesn't respect MIME types
[18:17] <toad_> BrianB04: so the HTML filter (which eliminates web-bugs) doesn't work
[18:17] <toad_> BrianB04: we _could_ fix it by encoding all plain text as HTML before sending it to the browser...
[18:18] <toad_> BrianB04: we may do that at some point
[18:18] <Joe2> I goto documents (works) then 'the perfect mind' (dos'nt work)
[18:18] <BrianB04> But why do something nice for IE?:)
[18:18] <toad_> Joe2: what about All Sites?
[18:18] <Joe2> not work
[18:18] <toad_> Joe2: btw please don't download anything illegal from freenet; doing so voids your right to technical support
[18:18] <Joe2> all sites and each individual item on antoher section dosnt work
[18:19] <toad_> well, what do you mean not work? it just sits there?
[18:19] <Joe2> yes
[18:19] <Joe2> loads for ever
[18:19] <BrianB04> Mine is doing the exact same thing, just sittin here.
[18:19] <Joe2> leave it all day and only half of one word has loaded
[18:19] <BrianB04> s/here/there
[18:19] <toad_> ok...
[18:19] <toad_> if you go to Gallery, then Propaganda, what happens?
[18:20] <toad_> well first does the activelink load?
[18:20] <toad_> I mean do all the rectangular pictures on the Gallery index page load?
[18:20] <toad_> or at least some of them?
[18:22] <toad_> ping...
[18:22] <Joe2> pong
[18:23] <toad_> ok
[18:23] <toad_> where were we?
[18:23] <Gimli> nah - its more like this: | * |
[18:24] <Joe2> there is no properganda in gallery
[18:24] <toad_> Joe2: if you go to any of the other links, do any of the activelinks node?
[18:24] <toad_> load?
[18:24] <toad_> you here?:
[18:24] <toad_> http://127.0.0.1:8888/USK@c55vMxUl-T-lD3nv0iOaXF~G1hnY6pOMRbzZSwACMmY,yd8~uwUmGm164-ipStoiBOJVjkbbYXJMlD~H5ftPxIA,AQABAAE/Indicia/52/freesite-gallery
[18:24] <Joe2> no the dont load
[18:25] <Joe2> none of the buttons that say 'activelink' or other picture work
[18:25] <Joe2> they all cause firefox to get stuck in loading something
[18:25] <toad_> line 4, "Propaganda" on top, on bottom it says "A Message from the Ministry of Homeland Security"
[18:26] <Beta_M> I am unable to establish new connections, i dont know when it happened, but now even when both nodes are on the same subnet they dont want to talk to each other
[18:26] <Joe2> line 4 of gallery is 'test'
[18:26] <toad_> Beta_M: are they on a LAN?
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[18:27] <toad_> Joe2: are you on the same page as I am?
[18:27] <Beta_M> toad_: yes
[18:27] <Joe2> I clicked testpic
[18:27] <toad_> Joe2: I mean line 4 of the actual sites
[18:27] <Beta_M> and no... it doesn't matter where they are
[18:27] <toad_> Joe2: not line 4 of the sub-index
[18:27] <toad_> es
[18:27] <toad_> page down
[18:27] <toad_> :)
[18:28] <Gimli> can anybody tell me about that "Location" field in my node ?
[18:28] <toad_> please don't stand in any of the shit, accidentally or deliberately
[18:28] <Gimli> what does it mean ?
[18:28] <toad_> Gimli: it's to do with routing
[18:28] <Gimli> hmm
[18:28] <Joe2> lol, do any of you know why no activecontent is loading for me?
[18:28] <toad_> Gimli: your node has a location assigned by the location swapping algorithm
[18:28] <toad_> Joe2: can you see the site I was talking about anyway?
[18:28] <toad_> the propaganda site?
[18:29] <toad_> Joe2: does that load?
[18:29] <toad_> does its activelink even load?
[18:29] <toad_> http://127.0.0.1:8888/SSK@gB~1YUnkwg8tt7toHxjPkJa2viaJEoVWggefbdPxiwI,93MOzt6G28~YbHVvLJL7bakeeJ8Q61WN0t5kUkJLxLU,AQABAAE/Propaganda-3/
[18:29] <Joe2> Ive opened that link in firefox
[18:29] <Gimli> hmm - so you can see who is close to you ?
[18:29] <Joe2> it is 'waiting for 127.0.0.1
[18:30] <toad_> do you have lots of other stuff fetching in other windows?
[18:30] <Joe2> It will be on waiting for '127.0.0.1' permently
[18:30] <Joe2> nope, nothing else doing anything
[18:30] <toad_> it should eventually give up
[18:30] <toad_> or load the site
[18:30] <Joe2> nope, just keeps going
[18:30] <toad_> how long have you given it now? 20 seconds?
[18:31] <Joe2> never timing out and never loading any more than eventually maybe a background colour or a coupple of charicters
[18:31] <Joe2> about 1mins, but Ive tried 4hours yesterday
[18:31] <toad_> that I don't understand
[18:31] <Joe2> my internet is fast connection
[18:31] <toad_> restart your node
[18:31] <Joe2> all the freenet configeration works
[18:31] <Joe2> ok
[18:31] <toad_> there may be other fetches still processing
[18:32] <toad_> restarting will clear them
[18:32] <Joe2> restarting now
[18:32] <toad_> close your browser as well
[18:32] <toad_> and start again
[18:32] <Joe2> ok
[18:32] <Joe2> how do I know when it has restarted?
[18:32] <toad_> ok, you should be on http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:USK@c55vMxUl-T-lD3nv0iOaXF~G1hnY6pOMRbzZSwACMmY,yd8~uwUmGm164-ipStoiBOJVjkbbYXJMlD~H5ftPxIA,AQABAAE/Indicia/52/ ...
[18:33] <toad_> Joe2: it shouldn't take long
[18:33] <toad_> Joe2: check the uptime on the darknet or stats pages
[18:33] <Joe2> ok
[18:34] <toad_> Joe2: restarted?
[18:34] <Joe2> I cant find anything on my stats page that says uptime
[18:34] <Joe2> It mustve done it by now, im cloasing all windows and restarting
[18:34] <Docks> No matter what I try, I get "Frost could not establish a connection to your freenet node(s)", any ideas?
[18:34] <toad_> Joe2: check wrapper.log
[18:35] <toad_> Joe2: it's a file in the node directory
[18:35] <toad_> Docks: your node isn't running? or is running on another computer?
[18:35] <Joe2> Ive installed freenet on this pc
[18:36] <Joe2> Ive gone to C:\Program Files\Freenet
[18:36] <Joe2> and I cant find a wrapper.log
[18:36] <toad_> hmmm
[18:36] <Joe2> or a foler called node
[18:36] <toad_> that's strange
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[18:36] <toad_> there will be a file called wrapper.log
[18:36] <Docks> toad, no it's running perfect, on the same computer
[18:36] <toad_> somewhere
[18:36] <Joe2> found wrapper.log
[18:36] <toad_> can you open it?
[18:36] <Joe2> lots of text inside
[18:37] <toad_> look at the end
[18:37] <toad_> does it look like you just restarted the node?
[18:37] <Joe2> INFO | jvm 2 | 2006/12/09 18:32:01 | Resuming persistent requests
[18:37] <Joe2> INFO | jvm 2 | 2006/12/09 18:32:01 | Completed startup: All persistent requests resumed or restarted
[18:37] <Joe2> INFO | jvm 2 | 2006/12/09 18:32:01 | Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to fr