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[0:23] <TheSeeker> toad_: ok ... I built 10917 but didn't shut down and move it into use ... I'll wait until the next batch of changes come in.
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[0:42] <CIA-12> toad * r10918 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/store/BerkeleyDBFreenetStore.java: More datastore fixes.
[0:43] <sanity> toad_: any of these datastore bugs significant?
[0:43] <toad_> not catastrophic, generally
[0:44] <toad_> important in some cases
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[0:57] <_ph00> huh...
[0:57] <_ph00> maybe
[0:57] <_ph00> and I'm saying just maybe
[0:58] <_ph00> me peers are getting hard time connecting since they update to 996.
[0:58] <_ph00> remember when I said they were connecting more easily?
[0:59] <_ph00> they were almost all on 994, and me, I was on 996 (and a few more also were)
[0:59] <_ph00> but now I'm seeing 6 disconnected peers, of which I am 100% sure that at least one is up
[0:59] <_ph00> and, all of them but one are on 996
[1:00] <_ph00> (but of course, that could be a coincidence too)
[1:00] <MineHaunter> was there any change in the connection code?
[1:00] <_ph00> I think the devs were talkmig about one change that may have done something to the connections, but I don't undersand much
[1:00] <_ph00> t
[1:01] <_ph00> anyways, you M.H are disconnected
[1:01] <_ph00> is your node up right now?
[1:01] <MineHaunter> was updating to last svn build
[1:01] <_ph00> ok
[1:01] <MineHaunter> just come back on now :)
[1:01] <_ph00> I run latest stable
[1:02] <_ph00> k
[1:02] <_ph00> reloading page....
[1:02] <_ph00> connected
[1:02] <_ph00> ok
[1:02] <_ph00> but thwere is at least one peer that *is* up and yet doesnt connect
[1:03] <MineHaunter> usually I see you connected so there aren't problem between us two, I think :)
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[1:04] <_ph00> yes, we're fine
[1:05] <_ph00> you have a node called 'none' as a peer? (based in the same country)
[1:06] <_ph00> he couldn't connect a bunch of days ago, we tried to delete and re-add each other, nothing
[1:06] <_ph00> then after the 996 upgrade, we could peer again, and I had all my peers connected
[1:06] <_ph00> but that didn't last
[1:07] <_ph00> now I'm seeing even more disconnected peers than before, and I can't connect with that one peer
[1:08] <_ph00> that's the weird thing. I mean, as long as I only had all peers connected and now I don't any more, that could be a coincidence, but the fact that one peer couldn't connect, then it could, and now it can't again, that puzzles me
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[1:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I have 2 nodes at home, both on the same network but both have different nodes each
[1:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> is it possible to link them ?
[1:16] <MineHaunter> sure
[1:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> I tried adding both refs but they never connect
[1:16] <Iceman_B^Ltop> seperately they can get onto freenet, thats not the problem
[1:16] <MineHaunter> fist of all, you must enable the "include local address in noderef" option
[1:17] <MineHaunter> so that your ref actually has a local udp physical address
[1:17] <MineHaunter> like 192.xxx or whatever
[1:17] <MineHaunter> then, after you add both refs to the nodes
[1:18] <MineHaunter> you have to select that peer and set allowLocalAddresses
[1:18] <MineHaunter> and you're done :)
[1:18] <MineHaunter> you can switch off the include local address option later
[1:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> *_*
[1:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> whoa, ok
[1:19] <Iceman_B^Ltop> can all of this be done from the (advanced) config page or do I need to h4xx the config ini?
[1:20] <MineHaunter> you can do it from advanced config page
[1:20] <Iceman_B^Ltop> alright, thanks
[1:20] <MineHaunter> actually allowLocalAddress can be set from the darknet page
[1:20] <MineHaunter> it's a peer specific setting
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[1:31] <richard223> I did that earlier today
[1:31] <richard223> pretty cool
[1:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> anyone know what a "ForwardRejectedOverload" message indicates?
[1:39] <Iceman_B^Ltop> MineHaunter: the localAddress thing worked, thanks!
[1:40] <MineHaunter> Iceman_B: np :)
[1:41] <MineHaunter> iirc ForwardRejectedOverload means the target peer is overloaded and currently rejecting your requests
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[1:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> hm, makes sense
[1:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> my line is getting raped pretty badly
[1:42] <Iceman_B^Ltop> upstream-wise
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[4:49] <P4C0> guys my node say: It seems that your node isn't running the latest version of the software. Your node is currently fetching the update over Freenet and will automatically restart when it's ready (as configured). but it's been like this for days...
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[5:09] <_ph00> damn I hate when they ask a question and disappear before anyone can answer
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[9:15] <Salpetersaeure> is this the right chan for questions about refs?
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[9:28] <littlefae> Wheres this online clipboard thing, for pasting references to, again? :)
[9:29] <OctoberWork> littlefae: http://dark-code.bulix.org/
[9:29] <OctoberWork> then join #freenet-refs littlefae
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[9:41] <AnMaster> hm what is C:\.onionnetworks\lib\win32\fec8.dll ? It seems like it is loaded by freenet
[9:41] * AnMaster wonders why it installs a file there and not in c:\Program\Freenet ...
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[9:46] <littlefae> Is there a 'troubleshooting faq' anywhere?
[9:50] <OctoberWork> http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[9:51] <littlefae> Yeah, thought so. Isn't in there.
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[10:02] <OctoberWork> littlefae, this is a slow time for the channels, perhaps a little later (4-5 hours) some of the devs and more experienced users will be in to help troubleshoot
[10:02] <littlefae> I'll figure it out, by then, you wait n see.
[10:02] <OctoberWork> yes'm
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[12:54] <stpeter> nextgens: https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet/src/freenet/support/SizeUtil.java
[12:54] <stpeter> nextgens: goes out of bounds with i=9
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[13:25] <stpeter> nextgens: http://rifers.org/paste/show/2302
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[14:10] <nextgens> hi
[14:10] <Zothar_Work> hi
[14:12] <Zothar_Work> at some point I need to figure out why my stack dumping isn't working so I can perhaps figure out why CPU goes up over time and average ping time goes up and throughput goes up over time on one but not both nodes (at the moment anyway)
[14:14] <nextgens> aren't you using the wrapper ?
[14:17] <Zothar_Work> I am; the wrapper.log gets a message that it's doing it, but then I don't actually get the dump
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[14:22] <nextgens> stpeter> I'm on it
[14:35] <stpeter> nextgens: good :)
[14:39] <toad_> nextgens: is there a way for issues to depend on other issues in trac?
[14:40] <toad_> [OT] nextgens: Bristol Wireless is looking for a good issue tracker
[14:40] <AnMaster> nextgens, hi
[14:40] <AnMaster> not sure if I got any answer to this one as I ran /clear in wrong tab by mistake: "hm what is C:\.onionnetworks\lib\win32\fec8.dll ? It seems like it is loaded by freenet"
[14:41] * AnMaster wonders why it installs a file there and not in c:\Program\Freenet where the rest of freenet is or in %userprofile%...
[14:41] <toad_> AnMaster: good question
[14:42] <toad_> AnMaster: it ought to be in the freenet-ext.jar
[14:42] <AnMaster> well what is that one for?
[14:42] <AnMaster> hm
[14:42] <AnMaster> oh that reminds me
[14:42] <AnMaster> of an odd thing at last update
[14:43] <AnMaster> it says this now:
[14:43] <AnMaster> Freenet 0.7 Build #996 r10902
[14:43] <AnMaster> Freenet-ext Build #7 r@custom@
[14:43] <AnMaster> no idea why it says "r@custom@", never said that before
[14:43] <AnMaster> I just used the update.cmd
[14:43] <CIA-12> nextgens * r10919 /trunk/freenet/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Fix a stupid bug in SizeUtil... we are handling longs ;) thanks to stpeter for reporting it
[14:43] <nextgens> raaahhhhh
[14:43] <nextgens> :@
[14:43] <AnMaster> nextgens, what?
[14:44] <AnMaster> anyway shutting down my node now as there must be something wrong with it
[14:44] <CIA-12> nextgens * r10920 /trunk/freenet/ (5 files in 4 dirs): revert latest commit
[14:45] <Zothar_Work> AnMaster: @custom@ is "normal"
[14:45] <AnMaster> ok
[14:45] <AnMaster> so why is the file C:\.onionnetworks\lib\win32\fec8.dll doing there then?
[14:45] <AnMaster> what*
[14:46] <toad_> good question
[14:46] <AnMaster> well anyone is going try finding out why?
[14:46] * AnMaster doesn't know any java
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[14:48] <AnMaster> I removed it from there, and try restarting freenet now
[14:48] <jabba_> i just discovered a nice lecture on freenet (just remebered my visit to 22c3)
[14:48] <jabba_> ftp://dewy.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/CCC/22C3/video/mp4/22C3-492-en-freenet_new_version.mp4
[14:48] <AnMaster> it is restored
[14:48] <AnMaster> wtf
[14:49] <AnMaster> toad_, it is there again!
[14:49] <stpeter> nextgens: :)
[14:49] <jabba_> perhaps anyone wants to watch
[14:49] <jabba_> btw. the "new version" they are talking about in this video... is that already 0.7?
[14:49] <AnMaster> no one care to help finding out why?
[14:50] <CIA-12> nextgens * r10921 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/support/SizeUtil.java: Fix a stupid bug in SizeUtil... we are handling longs ;) thanks to stpeter for reporting it : second edition with only the real meat
[14:50] * AnMaster wonder if java may use c:\ as temp dir or something like that
[14:50] <AnMaster> but as I know nothing of how java works I don't know where to look
[14:50] <nextgens> speter, ok, try r10921
[14:50] <AnMaster> nextgens, can you help?
[14:51] <nextgens> toad_> I'd say use trac
[14:51] <nextgens> AnMaster> that's the normal behaviour
[14:51] <AnMaster> nextgens, C:\.onionnetworks\lib\win32\fec8.dll <-- why is it there, I don't want it to put things directly in c:\
[14:51] <nextgens> AnMaster> it's loaded from freenet-ext
[14:51] <AnMaster> well
[14:51] <AnMaster> why not use %TEMP% or something
[14:51] <AnMaster> instead of c:\
[14:52] <nextgens> well, it's used to workaround a jvm bug
[14:52] <AnMaster> I want a clean c:\, only Windows, Documents and Settings and Program (and a few system dirs like RECYCLER, System Volume Information and a few others)
[14:52] <nextgens> upon execution, we copy it over somewhere else
[14:53] <nextgens> otherwise we can't use it
[14:53] <nextgens> as the jvm locks the files in the classpath
[14:53] <AnMaster> nextgens, sane place would be inside the freenet install dir
[14:53] <nextgens> and windows is dumb with file locking
[14:53] <AnMaster> nextgens, or at least in %TEMP% or something
[14:53] <stpeter> nextgens: i've create the patch for filelocks in classpath
[14:53] <nextgens> well, atm we use the mainstream distribution of onion fec libs
[14:54] <AnMaster> nextgens, wtf is "onion fec libs"?
[14:54] <AnMaster> what does that file do in fact?
[14:54] <nextgens> AnMaster> http://onionnetworks.com/developers/ thoses
[14:54] <stpeter> http://rifers.org/paste/show/2304
[14:54] <nextgens> it's a native binary used to speedup fec encoding
[14:55] <AnMaster> nextgens, still shouldn't be in c:\
[14:55] <stpeter> http://rifers.org/paste/show/2304 < classpath patch for file.lock/unlock
[14:55] <nextgens> AnMaster> agreed, convince onion guys :)
[14:55] <AnMaster> nextgens, you put the data store in the freenet directory and not in c:\.store right?
[14:55] <nextgens> or convince us to maintain our own version of their library
[14:55] <AnMaster> nextgens, well I will not start freenet for now
[14:56] <nextgens> to me that's not an issue
[14:56] <nextgens> it's w32 specific an works almost everywhere
[14:56] <nextgens> the fact that it's not "smart" is arguable
[14:56] <AnMaster> nextgens.convince("you will maintain your own version of their library");
[14:56] <AnMaster> ;)
[14:56] <AnMaster> or why don't you talk to upstream?
[14:57] <AnMaster> because if the user doesn't have write access to c:\ there will be problems
[14:57] <nextgens> because I know that would be useless
[14:57] <nextgens> :)
[14:57] <nextgens> as they are not maintaining their lib. anymore
[14:57] <AnMaster> nextgens, what reason do they give to keep it in c:\?
[14:57] <nextgens> we do have the plan to maintain our own version of the fec library in order to add x86_64 support
[14:58] <AnMaster> ah well, tell me when it's done so I can start using freenet again then
[14:58] <nextgens> AnMaster> no specific reason I guess ... except that they are not gonna patch it
[14:58] <nextgens> AnMaster> I suggest you fill a ticket on mantis
[14:58] <nextgens> so that I'll think about it when I get around that
[14:59] <AnMaster> nextgens, I reported to "my" upstream, now it's their job to take care of it ;P
[14:59] <nextgens> AnMaster> https://bugs.freenetproject.org
[14:59] <jabba_> is the speed of freenet really that bad? every link in darknet i click takes ages...
[14:59] <jabba_> or doesn't even load
[14:59] <AnMaster> nextgens, do I have to give my email away to post a bug?
[14:59] <AnMaster> then forget it
[14:59] <nextgens> AnMaster> btw, you can just wipe the lib from freenet-ext and freenet will fallback to plain java
[14:59] <nextgens> that will work, albeit slowly
[15:00] <AnMaster> I'll just wait until it's fixed instead
[15:00] <AnMaster> not using freenet 0.7 for a while
[15:00] <nextgens> AnMaster> yes, we are asking people to give their email so that we can contact them when it's done
[15:00] <Zothar_Work> jabba_: depends on how well you're connected to the primary darknet "cloud"
[15:00] <Zothar_Work> also on how often your peer connections are busy, etc.
[15:01] * AnMaster is still running 0.5 as there are things on it that isn't on 0.7 (and 0.5 is alive)
[15:01] <Zothar_Work> (busy peers can cause misrouting, which is inefficient)
[15:01] <AnMaster> as well that is
[15:01] <jabba_> i have 6 peers
[15:01] <jabba_> connected
[15:01] <Zothar_Work> current thinking is that 10-15 connected peers is good
[15:01] <jabba_> k
[15:01] <AnMaster> nextgens, btw, that thing stpeter said: <stpeter> http://rifers.org/paste/show/2304 < classpath patch for file.lock/unlock
[15:02] <nextgens> AnMaster> btw, .5 is doing EXACTLY the same
[15:02] <nextgens> with fec libraries
[15:02] <AnMaster> nextgens, nop, it doesn't, I looked and that never showed up
[15:02] <nextgens> AnMaster> yes, what do you want to say about it ?
[15:03] * nextgens has the sourcecode an affirm that it does the same
[15:03] <AnMaster> nextgens, I guess that could solve that issue if I understood what stpeter said right
[15:04] <nextgens> no
[15:05] <nextgens> he wrote it for classpath
[15:05] <nextgens> you aren't using classpath
[15:05] <AnMaster> uh? whatever
[15:05] <nextgens> so the workaround deployed in their library is sensible
[15:06] * AnMaster isn't a java coder but a c# and php coder
[15:06] <nextgens> even though I agree that ought to be in the jvm rather than a workaround
[15:06] <AnMaster> well whatever
[15:07] <AnMaster> why not just put it as an external file in c:\Program\Freenet\lib
[15:07] <AnMaster> or something like that
[15:07] <AnMaster> (or "Program Files" in english windows)
[15:08] <nextgens> as I said; it's not a problem in our code but in one of our depandency
[15:08] <nextgens> dependancy even
[15:09] <AnMaster> if you need to use native libraries to make it fast enough maybe java was a bad choice to begin with
[15:10] <AnMaster> anyway why does freenet use sooo many threads
[15:10] <AnMaster> I mean there is async I/O
[15:10] * nextgens won't get on trolling with you
[15:10] <AnMaster> trolling?
[15:10] <AnMaster> is this trolling?
[15:11] <nextgens> yes it is
[15:11] <nextgens> "why java" is answered on the faq
[15:12] <AnMaster> nextgens, didn't see "why does freenet use sooo many threads" in the faq last time I looked (a month or so ago)
[15:12] * AnMaster looks again
[15:12] <nextgens> toad_> sure, trac is handling dependancies
[15:12] <AnMaster> nextgens, "why does freenet use sooo many threads" is NOT in faq
[15:12] <AnMaster> I just checked
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[15:14] <nextgens> that's YetAnotherTroll that has been thrown on a regular basis on our mailing list
[15:14] <nextgens> check out http://archives.freenetproject.org
[15:14] <AnMaster> nextgens, ok thanks!
[15:15] <nextgens> the basic answer is: if you have a patch to swith the request code to state machines, then no problem we will commit it
[15:15] <_ph00> if I understand it correctly, the short answer to 'why java, if we all know that java sucks?' would be 'because it sucks the same way on different OSs
[15:15] <nextgens> *switch
[15:15] * _ph00 drops that
[15:16] <AnMaster> nextgens, ah well, because I notice for example my Tor middle man node use a single thread, bad I can't code java to help you fix it
[15:17] <nextgens> tor has nothing in common with freenet
[15:17] <_ph00> and it's not java
[15:17] <_ph00> Tor is C afaik
[15:17] <anonymouse> both of them contain the letter "t"
[15:17] <_ph00> heh
[15:17] <nextgens> doing single threaded java isn't possible
[15:17] <nextgens> even the jvm does use threading
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[15:18] * nextgens is starting frost
[15:19] <nextgens> after the warmup time on irc, I'm ready to fight against Real Trolls
[15:20] <nextgens> toad_> any chance you have a look to the updater today ? you said yesterday it's a matter of hours ... I think that would be nice to have it
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[15:25] <jabba_> my frost accumulates its board list since ~10h
[15:25] <jabba_> but "de.buecher" is not there yet
[15:25] <jabba_> can i access that board somehow directly?
[15:27] <nextgens> if it's a public board yes you can
[15:27] <nextgens> otherwise you have to get the key from someone
[15:27] <nextgens> or grab it on some german board
[15:28] <jabba_> i don
[15:28] <jabba_> erm
[15:28] <jabba_> i don
[15:28] <jabba_> sorry
[15:28] <jabba_> I don't even have one de.* board in my list... (f*king keyboard!) :)
[15:29] * nextgens fills in a ticket for AnMaster's issue
[15:29] <nextgens> otherwise I'm gonna forget
[15:29] <Zothar_Work> BTW, it was the installer for Debian etch that went RC1 recently
[15:30] <nextgens> jabba_> ask people on the "boards" board then
[15:30] <nextgens> jabba_> that one is public
[15:32] <nextgens> AnMaster> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=892
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[15:33] <jabba_> i just read on the darknet-homepage, that de.buecher should be public
[15:33] <nextgens> AnMaster> if you don't click "monitor that issue", you won't be informed when it's resolved
[15:33] <AnMaster> ah thanks
[15:33] <AnMaster> nextgens, just to paranoid to give away my email
[15:33] <mung> hi ppl. I used to use 0.5 and just installed 0.7 to see if things have improved. apparently I need some sort of reference. anyone able to help me out?
[15:34] <AnMaster> nextgens, hm need login even for read access??
[15:34] <Zothar_Work> mung: exchange references with others on #freenet-refs
[15:34] <mung> thx
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[15:36] <nextgens> AnMaster> and how would you want to be informed if not by mail ?
[15:36] <AnMaster> nextgens, by going there each day and check?
[15:36] <nextgens> that's not beeing informed
[15:36] <AnMaster> nextgens, true, polling data rather than getting data pushed
[15:37] <AnMaster> nextgens, anyway why doesn't it allow some read only guest login?
[15:37] <nextgens> can't you just read the login screen ?
[15:38] <AnMaster> ah see it now
[15:38] * nextgens sigh
[15:38] <AnMaster> ah cookies... /me change to another browser
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[15:42] <stpeter> nextgens: the /stats page works fine now
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[15:47] <nextgens> cool :)
[15:48] <nextgens> stpeter> btw there is something wrong on your node
[15:48] <nextgens> stpeter> you shouldn't had values that big anywhere on the stat page
[15:48] <nextgens> stpeter> which value is shown as Infinite ?
[15:48] <nextgens> or Infinity, I don't know the wording
[15:50] <stpeter> memory: Infinity
[15:50] <stpeter> that's not true :)
[15:51] <stpeter> in the jvm info
[15:51] <stpeter> which java api is used to get that value?
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[15:54] <stpeter> Maximum Java memory: Infinity
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[15:55] <stpeter> Runtime rt = Runtime.getRuntime();
[15:55] <stpeter> rt.maxMemory(); //returns inifinity
[15:56] <stpeter> i don't know if is the right behaviour
[15:56] <stpeter> could be a classpath problem
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[16:08] <nextgens> bsh % System.out.println(Runtime.getRuntime().maxMemory());
[16:08] <nextgens> 9223372036854775807
[16:08] <nextgens> hmm
[16:08] <nextgens> that gives the same here
[16:08] * nextgens knows
[16:08] <nextgens> the wrapper is limitating the aviable memory
[16:08] <nextgens> as well as the jvm
[16:09] <nextgens> on interractive shells or on gcj those limits aren't set I guess
[16:09] <nextgens> anyway, if it's only that, it's probably harmless
[16:10] <nextgens> stpeter> have you tried to use FCP apps with gcj ?
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[16:12] <zexster> no i can't find any apps suitable for being compiled with gcj
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[16:13] <stpeter> tried frost (use a third party lib to skin the gui that use classes not available in classpath sun.*)
[16:13] <stpeter> worst also use some javax.* that are not alredy available in gnu classpath
[16:13] <nextgens> stpeter> thaw ought to compile
[16:13] <nextgens> it uses strict 1.4 compatibility
[16:14] <nextgens> stpeter> btw, what's the size of the produced binaries ?
[16:15] * nextgens wonders how big is freenet.exe
[16:15] <stpeter> freenet: ~65mb upx-> 5mb
[16:15] <nextgens> wich is still huge :/
[16:16] <stpeter> not too huge, the jars are 3.5mb
[16:16] <stpeter> and the sun jvm is ~300mb installed
[16:16] <nextgens> and most of it is dead code
[16:16] <nextgens> most of freenet-ext is binaries for anything but your architecture ;)
[16:17] <nextgens> btw, have you stripped the binary ?
[16:17] <stpeter> yes -s
[16:17] <nextgens> is it linked against anything ?
[16:17] <stpeter> i've not removed th .so files from the ext
[16:18] * nextgens thinks you'd see a huge performance boost if you were recompiling everything with gcj
[16:18] <nextgens> starting from bytecode is convenient ...
[16:19] <nextgens> but under-optimized for gcj's purposes
[16:19] <stpeter> i've used this gcj commands: http://rifers.org/paste/show/2307
[16:20] <stpeter> nextgens: i don't know how to compile from sources
[16:20] <stpeter> nextgens: there are also problems compiling gcj itself for windows
[16:21] <stpeter> nextgens: for now i'm using the binaries from nativej.mtsystems.ch, but the demo version show up a "i'm demo" message box at startup
[16:23] <nextgens> stpeter> remove -lnjTrial :)
[16:26] <stpeter> nextgens: i've tried, the resulting executable, prints "License not found!" and terminates
[16:27] <nextgens> remove ljnRegex too then
[16:27] <stpeter> ?
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[16:31] <nextgens> try gcj -s -g2 -O2 -fjni --main=freenet.node.NodeStarter -o Node.exe Ifreenet.jar -Ifreenet-ext.jar freenet-win.jar.o freenet-ext-win.jar.o icon.rc.o insteed
[16:33] <nextgens> stpeter> and what about using the latest-free version ?
[16:34] <stpeter> i've already tried, the compilation works as normal, but when u run Node.exe a message is shown telling about the license not found and the execution terminates
[16:34] <stpeter> nextgens: i'm unable to cross compile gcc to compile gcj for windows from linux
[16:35] <nextgens> stpeter> I've already done it
[16:35] <stpeter> jc1: "internal error"
[16:35] <stpeter> nextgens: cool, which revison number? which configure command?
[16:36] <nextgens> it was a long time ago
[16:36] <stpeter> i always get an "internal error" from jc1 when compiling gnu classpath swing.plaf or something
[16:37] <stpeter> nextgens: at least gcj 4.2 is required, for freenet i think
[16:37] <nextgens> indeed
[16:38] <nextgens> bbiab
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[17:17] <egon2003> how do I update my node manually when the autoupdate and update.sh doesnt work?
[17:18] <egon2003> the autoupdate stopped working for me it seems
[17:21] <Zothar_Work> update.sh should do it; if not, then you'll have to manually download fie jar file from the website and do the rename: http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/
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[17:35] <egon2003> Zothar_Work: thanks, it works now
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[18:12] <stpeter> gcj-eclipse: source merging begins :)
[18:18] <stpeter> hoping that annotations and generics, will be boosted by that
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[18:27] <BigZ> hi
[18:27] <BigZ> i'm facing some problems with freenet
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[18:28] <Zothar_Work> like?
[18:29] <BigZ> like crashing everytime
[18:29] <BigZ> i can see a site index
[18:29] <BigZ> the maybe a categry
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[18:29] <BigZ> and then crash
[18:29] <Beta_M> Is the plugin system going to be in any sort of operational state any time soon?
[18:29] <Beta_M> need it for freekiwiki project
[18:29] <BigZ> not really crash but don't work anymore for aprox. 3minutes
[18:30] <BigZ> and it restarts alone
[18:30] <Zothar_Work> BigZ: check your wrapper.log file for any hints; this may need a bug reported to https://bugs.freenetproject.org/
[18:31] <Zothar_Work> BigZ: sounds like a thread lockup problem
[18:31] <BigZ> im' oppening wrapper.log
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[18:32] <BigZ> INFO | jvm 4 | 2006/11/14 19:29:48 | Cannot create additional threads
[18:32] <BigZ> INFO | jvm 4 | 2006/11/14 19:29:48 | java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Cannot create additional threads
[18:32] <BigZ> STATUS | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:29:48 | Filter trigger matched. Restarting JVM.
[18:32] <BigZ> look like this
[18:33] <BigZ> Cannot create additional threads
[18:33] <BigZ> ERROR | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:31:03 | Shutdown failed: Timed out waiting for the JVM to terminate.
[18:33] <BigZ> ERROR | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:31:04 | JVM did not exit on request, terminated
[18:33] <BigZ> STATUS | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:31:08 | Reloading Wrapper configuration...
[18:33] <BigZ> STATUS | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:31:08 | Launching a JVM...
[18:33] <BigZ> Cannot create additional threads
[18:33] <BigZ> INFO | jvm 4 | 2006/11/14 19:29:31 | class java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
[18:33] <BigZ> STATUS | wrapper | 2006/11/14 19:29:31 | Filter trigger matched. Restarting JVM.
[18:33] <BigZ> a lot of errors like this
[18:34] <BigZ> is it a way to solve those ones ?
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[18:36] <nextgens> Beta_M> ask Bombe :)
[18:36] <nextgens> Beta_M> btw, is your freekiwiki project any time near ready ? ;p
[18:36] <Beta_M> errr... no
[18:37] <nextgens> BigZ> are you running freenet on a vserver ?
[18:37] <Beta_M> i've put up a tester for the parser, and nobody wanted to test it so far, even the ppl who volunteered before
[18:37] <Beta_M> freenet
[18:37] <nextgens> BigZ> do you have ulimits set ?
[18:37] <BigZ> i don't know what it is
[18:37] <Beta_M> ulimits?
[18:37] <nextgens> Beta_M> feel free to ask for volunteer on @devl if needed
[18:38] <BigZ> i installed freenet a week ago on my ubuntu and just starting using it
[18:38] <Beta_M> what's "ulimits"?
[18:38] <nextgens> BigZ> is freenet running on your desktop machine ?
[18:38] <nextgens> or is it hosted somewhere ?
[18:38] <BigZ> yes on my machine
[18:38] <nextgens> Beta_M> user-limits
[18:38] <Beta_M> huh? ok, so what are "user-limits"
[18:38] <nextgens> hmm
[18:39] <nextgens> Beta_M> rtfm ulimit :)
[18:39] <nextgens> BigZ> I've no idea regarding your problem ... have you tried restarting the computer ?
[18:40] <BigZ> no lol
[18:40] <BigZ> gonna try so...
[18:41] <Beta_M> Bombe: following nextgens' advice i'm asking you. is there any approx time when the plugin system for freenet will be rewritten (it was my understanding that it's in the plans)
[18:42] <Zothar_Work> BigZ: what platform are you running the node on? Windows/Linux/Mac OS X/unix?
[18:42] <nextgens> Zothar_Work> he said ununty
[18:42] <nextgens> ubuntu
[18:42] <Zothar_Work> ah, yes
[18:42] <BigZ> ;p
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[18:42] <Zothar_Work> BigZ: what's this command give you? ulimit -aS
[18:43] <BigZ> core file size (blocks, -c) 0
[18:43] <BigZ> data seg size (kbytes, -d) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> max nice (-e) 20
[18:43] <BigZ> file size (blocks, -f) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> pending signals (-i) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> max locked memory (kbytes, -l) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> open files (-n) 1024
[18:43] <BigZ> pipe size (512 bytes, -p) 8
[18:43] <BigZ> POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> max rt priority (-r) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> stack size (kbytes, -s) 8192
[18:43] <BigZ> cpu time (seconds, -t) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> max user processes (-u) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> virtual memory (kbytes, -v) unlimited
[18:43] <BigZ> file locks (-x) unlimited
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[18:44] <Zothar_Work> seems normal to me; _a lot_ of peers/downloads/uploads or something???
[18:45] <BigZ> 5 peerds, and juste beginning using freenet so not a lot of downloads
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[18:47] <Zothar_Work> hmm... beats me
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[18:47] <Zothar_Work> I guess you could try raising the memory limit in wrapper.conf
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[19:28] <Caco_Patane> Hallo
[19:28] <Sagitarius776> hello
[19:29] <Sagitarius776> http://dark-code.bulix.org/ynuksm-23485?raw
[19:29] <Caco_Patane> Sagitarius776, please use #freenet-refs to exchange refs
[19:30] <Sagitarius776> ok... is verry long...
[19:30] <Caco_Patane> what is very ling?
[19:30] <Caco_Patane> *long
[19:31] <Sagitarius776> sorry long (french) = length
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[19:32] <Caco_Patane> oh, my node was down...
[19:32] <Caco_Patane> i forgot to turn it on :P
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[19:36] <stpeter> which mail i need? to do the copyright assignment?
[19:36] <stpeter> i mean when one send patches to java-patches@gcc.gnu.org
[19:37] <stpeter> ops wrong chan! :)
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[19:38] <sandos> toad_, yeat another bounce
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[20:09] <sandos> also, the 996 update failed here
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[21:34] <nextgens> toad_> had you inserted 996 fully ?
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[21:49] <_ph00> we got a Spanish channel started #freenet-es
[21:49] <_ph00> I'm wonderin if we should also start an italian channel, as I see that the number of italians is growing
[22:03] <anonymouse> can we start a channel that rips on french?
[22:03] <anonymouse> i'd join that
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[22:08] <_ph00> how about #freenet-anti-frenchy?
[22:08] <_ph00> :P
[22:08] <anonymouse> #freenet-fr-surrender
[22:08] <_ph00> heh
[22:08] <richard223> hmm. quick question: in 0.5 I noticed that FUQID handled filed downloads by itself. does 0.7 takes care of this task now?
[22:09] <anonymouse> yeah tools can't do those things on their own now
[22:09] <anonymouse> they have to queue it up
[22:09] <richard223> hmmm interesting.
[22:09] <anonymouse> fuqid still exists but it's a weird gutted version of the old one
[22:09] <anonymouse> i still use it because i can't be bothered to learn thaw
[22:09] <_ph00> .7 tools are basically interfaces to the node. the node does the real work if I understood thatcorrectly
[22:10] <richard223> exactly, interface was the word I was looking for
[22:10] <nextgens> toad_> are you around ?
[22:10] <richard223> is there a way to make the node more aggressive or something? I queued a bunch of files to test the speed and it's slow as hell
[22:10] <nextgens> toad_> I've got a question regarding ClientPutBase :
[22:11] <nextgens> toad_> is there any reason why isTotalFinalized should ever not return true ?
[22:11] <nextgens> currently it's :
[22:11] <nextgens> public synchronized boolean isTotalFinalized() {
[22:11] <nextgens> if(!(progressMessage instanceof SimpleProgressMessage)) return false;
[22:11] <nextgens> else return ((SimpleProgressMessage)progressMessage).isTotalFinalized();
[22:11] <nextgens> }
[22:11] * nextgens thinks that "return true" would be fine
[22:11] <anonymouse> oh sure, but paste a ref and the bot kicks you
[22:11] <anonymouse> =P
[22:12] <nextgens> and tell you have something against Frenchs and I will
[22:12] <nextgens> ;)
[22:12] <anonymouse> i don't *truly*
[22:12] <anonymouse> i just enjoy pretending so
[22:13] <nextgens> hmm
[22:13] * nextgens is willing to commit it
[22:13] <richard223> I've been running my node since saturday, got 21/7/0/0/14 peers. should I get decent download speeds already?
[22:13] <nextgens> toad_> feel free to revert it if it doesn't please you
[22:14] <nextgens> toad_> or if I've missed something (might break resuming, I dunno)
[22:14] <richard223> decent as in "more than 2KB/s average"
[22:16] <CIA-12> nextgens * r10922 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/node/fcp/ClientPutBase.java: We always know the number of blocks of an insert, don't we ?
[22:16] <nextgens> may someone with some jobs on the global queue test my latest patch ?
[22:23] <sich> no jobs in progress for me nextgens, but I can try to insert some files
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[22:37] <nextgens> well, try to insert something and then restart your node
[22:37] <nextgens> see if it has resumed
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[22:48] <sich> ok
[22:51] <sich> I have start the insertion, I will wait and then restart the node
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[22:56] <_ph00> <anonymouse> i don't *truly*
[22:56] <_ph00> <anonymouse> i just enjoy pretending so <<====< Me neither. Those are jokes.
[22:58] <sich> nextgens, ?? priorit le resume ?? bien prit
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[23:16] <CIA-12> nextgens * r10923 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/clients/http/QueueToadlet.java: Fix the wording on the /queue/ page
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[23:38] <sich> good night
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[23:49] <hjubal> Bombe, hobx, nextgens, sleon, toad_ would you mind to come in #freenet-it, please?
[23:49] <hjubal> just a moment :)
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[23:51] <hjubal> I'd like to talk with a #freenet op
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[23:55] <edt> is autoupdate to 996 enabled?
[23:56] <Zothar_Work> edt: yeah, but some have been having trouble updating to it from what I understand
[23:57] <Zothar_Work> (I got it via other means because I was impatient to try it and commits after it...)
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