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IRC Log for 2006-11-02

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[0:01] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10793 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Fix horrible freeze when an index update takes too much time
[0:02] <toad_> NullAcht15: it removed you?
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[0:03] <nextgens> good night
[0:03] <toad_> nextgens: the fix doesn't work on linux/x86-64 ?
[0:03] <toad_> nextgens: :(
[0:08] <NullAcht15> toad_: what do you mean?
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[0:16] <Canadakid> if anyone's around, i've got a question...
[0:18] <Canadakid> i remember that i stopped using 0.5 'cuz it used to eat all my bandwidth (rate limiting never really worked)...i'm trying .7 this time, and was wondering what a good limit is
[0:22] <NullAcht15> Canadakid: In 0.7, the node usually uses significantly less bandwidth than it's allowed to...
[0:23] <Canadakid> oh...that's good to know
[0:23] <Canadakid> so it's safe to leave at the default?
[0:24] <NullAcht15> I'd suggest adjusting it to what's available on your connection
[0:25] <Canadakid> mmmkay
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[1:13] <sanity> tumbleweed rolls past
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[1:15] <lilkreen> heh, no patch notes in frost, why's there a 992 and a 993? O_o
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[1:55] <toad_> patch notes should arrive on channel soon
[1:55] <toad_> well maybe tomorrow
[1:55] <toad_> they're written
[1:55] <toad_> but i've got to shut frost down now, and they may still be not sent
[1:56] <toad_> good night
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[2:47] <ttsoares> <PIFilms>
[2:47] <PIFilms> Hello ttsoares.
[2:48] <ttsoares> i have the system running
[2:48] <ttsoares> wish to use the browser
[2:48] <ttsoares> remotelly
[2:48] <PIFilms> On your configuration page, please look in the fproxy section.
[2:48] <ttsoares> firewaal is opened at 8888
[2:48] <PIFilms> So you can't browse it at all via browser now?
[2:48] <ttsoares> nope
[2:48] <ttsoares> it is refusing
[2:48] <PIFilms> One moment.
[2:49] <ttsoares> only connections from localhost to the 8888
[2:49] <ttsoares> links http://localhost:8888
[2:49] <ttsoares> with this i can use a text-only browser
[2:50] <ttsoares> IP address to bind to 127.0.0.1
[2:50] <ttsoares> i will chance this to my valid IP
[2:50] <PIFilms> If you change that, it will no longer work.
[2:51] <PIFilms> You need to change the allowed hosts in the FProxy settings.
[2:51] <ttsoares> ok
[2:51] <MineHaunter> he has to change the bind settings too
[2:51] <PIFilms> I don't know the freenet.ini config line for that, since I always used the web interface.
[2:52] <PIFilms> Oh, thank goodness! MineHaunter is here: He knows about everything here.
[2:53] <PIFilms> Maybe you could help him, since I was just grasping at the manual to see where to go from here.
[2:53] <MineHaunter> not sure if I can help him
[2:53] <MineHaunter> from where do you want to access fproxy, ttsoares?
[2:54] <MineHaunter> from another pc in your lan?
[2:54] <ttsoares> i am in house-a and the server is in house-b
[2:55] <ttsoares> thomas.homelinux.net
[2:55] <MineHaunter> do you have a lan (over vpn maybe) or you are connected through the internet?
[2:55] <ttsoares> http:// thomas.homelinux.net:8181
[2:55] <MineHaunter> Opening fproxy to the whole internet is not a great idea
[2:55] <ttsoares> there is the server i am trying to config via ssh
[2:56] <MineHaunter> you can use allowedhosts if you have a static ip in your house-b
[2:56] <MineHaunter> but if house-b has a dynamic ip, you only secure solution is to set up a vpn to your freenet node, afaik
[2:57] <ttsoares> ok - i will installa a squid there
[2:58] <ttsoares> to from here i will use "localhost" but my proxi will be there
[2:58] <ttsoares> so i cheat the freenet server
[2:59] <MineHaunter> dunno how squid works, it may work, but you should encrypt all freenet-related traffic betweek house-a and house-b
[3:00] <ttsoares> will be via https
[3:00] <MineHaunter> where are you going to install squid?
[3:01] <ttsoares> i use this to control mldonkey remotelly
[3:01] <ttsoares> no problem... squid is great to cheat connections like this ;-)
[3:02] <MineHaunter> it's not that the problem, if your traffic between a and b is not encrypted you give up all your security
[3:03] <MineHaunter> but if you're going to install squid on house-a and then connect to it via https that could be ok, I think
[3:03] <ttsoares> it will be encrypted... no worry
[3:05] <MineHaunter> ok then
[3:05] <MineHaunter> off to bed
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[13:57] <TheSeeker> Yay, we're being spied on again!
[13:58] <_ph00> ?!? spied? I thought this channel was logged 24/7 anyway
[13:59] <bllx> any chance soomeone could give me a hand getting freenet accessible from LAN'd machines? I always managed it on earlier versions of freenet but the .ini file is very different now
[14:00] <bllx> the Freenet 0 7 over LAN wiki page is very vague
[14:01] <Nico_32> ssh powaa
[14:01] <bllx> you mean tunnel it?
[14:02] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all! As you no doubt have noticed we're having some problems our end, we're experiencing a rather large Denial of Service attack and most of our servers were affected, and as such, most of our users! I'm terribly sorry for the inconvenience and hope you all hang in there. Thank you for using freenode!
[14:03] <Nico_32> ssh -N -L 8888:127.0.0.1:8888 freenet_server
[14:03] <Nico_32> or
[14:03] <Nico_32> ssh -N -G 7897 frenet_server
[14:03] <bllx> hmm yes
[14:03] <bllx> so the method described in the wiki page doesnt work?
[14:03] <bllx> adding hosts to the ini file
[14:03] <Nico_32> s/-G/-D
[14:04] <Nico_32> maybee it work
[14:04] <Nico_32> but i prefers use ssh
[14:04] <bllx> i see. And maybee it don't
[14:04] <bllx> roger
[14:04] <bllx> certainly safer
[14:04] <bllx> well thanks Nico
[14:05] <Nico_32> ssh -n -f -N is cool for using ssh as tunnel
[14:05] <bllx> k
[14:06] <bllx> so to access a freenet node on 10.0.0.1 from 10.0.0.2 one would use...?
[14:06] <bllx> ssh -N -L 8888:127.0.0.1:8888 10.0.0.1
[14:06] <bllx> ?
[14:07] <bllx> ssh -N -L 8888:127.0.0.1:8888 10.0.0.1:8888
[14:07] <Nico_32> ssh -N -n -f -L 8888:127.0.0.1:8888 10.0.0.1
[14:07] <bllx> great, thanks
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(chaos:4h54m|380|29M|/home/nico)--
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(nico:$ ssh -N -n -f -L 8889:127.0.0.1:8888 zarock.lookante.org
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(chaos:4h54m|381|29M|/home/nico)--
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(nico:$
[14:08] <Nico_32> .
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(chaos:4h54m|381|29M|/home/nico)--
[14:08] <Nico_32> --(nico:$ curl http://localhost:8889/
[14:08] <Nico_32> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN">
[14:08] <Nico_32> <html xml:lang="en"><head><title>Freenet FProxy Homepage of Calcifer,
[14:08] <Nico_32> etc ...
[14:09] <Nico_32> you also can forward FCP port
[14:12] <bllx> oh yeh, now I'm good. Thanks Nico
[14:13] <bllx> but how do I terminate the tunnel?
[14:14] <bllx> exiting the shell doesn't do it
[14:14] <Nico_32> kill pid_of_ssh_process
[14:14] <bllx> aha ok
[14:14] <bllx> on LAN machine not freenet node?
[14:14] <Nico_32> on the lan machine
[14:14] <Nico_32> you also can terminate tunnel from the freenet node
[14:15] <Nico_32> by killing the sshd process
[14:15] <Nico_32> but it is not clean
[14:15] <bllx> yup that did it
[14:15] <bllx> thanks!
[14:15] <Nico_32> :)
[14:16] <bllx> and this method has the advantage one can use it to access one's node from non-LAN remote machine anywhere, right
[14:18] <Nico_32> yes, i use this method at my school (and netadmin don't approuve but i don't really care :P)
[14:18] <bllx> sod 'em
[14:18] <bllx> ;)
[14:20] <Nico_32> freenet run well on bi-proc server :P
[14:20] <bllx> other advantage is you don't have to edit freenet links with http://127.0.0.1 at the beginning
[14:20] <Nico_32> CPU: Pentium Pro (199.45-MHz 686-class CPU)
[14:20] <Nico_32> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9
[14:20] <Nico_32> Features=0xfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV>
[14:20] <Nico_32> i run freenet on a bi-Pentium Pro
[14:21] <Nico_32> :P
[14:21] <bllx> good for you
[14:22] <Nico_32> but nextgens kick out pentium-pro's lib from freenet-ext.jar
[14:22] <Nico_32> so freenet only use pure java :-(
[14:23] <nextgens> hmm ?
[14:24] <nextgens> Nico_32> you're kidding right ?
[14:25] <_ph00> has the can't-remove-peers "feature" been removed? I deleted one peer and didn't get any warning.
[14:25] <Nico_32> nextgens: where ?
[14:25] <nextgens> libjbigi-linux-pentiummmx.so
[14:25] <nextgens> libjbigi-linux-pentium.so
[14:25] <nextgens> libjbigi-linux-pentium2.so
[14:25] <nextgens> what's missing ?
[14:25] <nextgens> pentium pro is handled by pentium iirc
[14:25] <nextgens> as it misses MMX extentions
[14:26] <Nico_32> INFO | jvm 1 | 2006/11/02 14:37:07 | INFO: Native BigInteger library jbigi not loaded - using pure java
[14:26] <Nico_32> INFO | jvm 1 | 2006/11/02 14:58:54 | INFO: Native BigInteger library jbigi not loaded - using pure java
[14:26] <nextgens> try updating your freenet-ext.jar
[14:27] <Nico_32> Freenet-ext Build #6 r10078 is not the latest freenet-ext ?
[14:31] <nextgens> #7 is out
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[14:33] <_ph00> I'm still running #6. autoupdate got me build 993, but not freenet-ext #7. should I run update.sh?
[14:33] <_ph00> or wait for another autoupdate?
[14:34] <nextgens> updating to #7 makes sense if your're running linux on an x86_32
[14:34] <nextgens> otherwise it doesn't
[14:35] <nextgens> freenet-ext.jar won't be updated by the auto-updater anyway
[14:36] <Nico_32> i run freebsd x86_32
[14:36] <nextgens> then it's useless
[14:36] <_ph00> me too
[14:36] <_ph00> no
[14:36] <_ph00> I mean
[14:37] <nextgens> we haven't ever provided freebsd libraries
[14:37] <_ph00> me too, I'm running on x86_32
[14:37] <_ph00> but on Linux
[14:37] <nextgens> feel free to recompile a custom freenet-ext.jar if you want to
[14:37] <nextgens> _ph00> then you should update
[14:37] <_ph00> using update.sh?
[14:38] <nextgens> I dunno
[14:38] <Nico_32> nextgens: i know, i has to build my own version of the wrapper
[14:39] <_ph00> yes. update.sh is fetching freenet-ext
[14:39] <_ph00> Freenet 0.7 Build #993 r10790
[14:39] <_ph00> Freenet-ext Build #7 r10078
[14:42] <nextgens> _ph00> grep your logs, but it shouldn't complain about FEC errors anymore
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[14:43] <_ph00> cool: all those "fatal timeouts" are gone
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[14:46] <_ph00> nextgens; what happens on -refs?
[14:47] <nextgens> no idea, I was testing some buttons in my graphical, 3D irc client
[14:47] <nextgens> and you got kicked while testing ;)
[14:47] <_ph00> np
[14:47] <_ph00> testing is good
[14:47] <_ph00> anyways
[14:47] <Nico_32> nextgens: 3D irc client ?
[14:47] <_ph00> I could rejoin with no problem
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[14:48] <_ph00> but I don't see any msg on that channel
[14:48] * nextgens sees yours
[14:48] <_ph00> k
[14:48] <_ph00> any other msgs?
[14:48] <_ph00> I *only* see mine
[14:49] <nextgens> bbiab
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[14:54] <Nico_32> ddos :-(
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[15:00] <CIA-14> mrogers * r10796 /trunk/apps/load-balancing-sims/phase7/sim/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Allow blocks and headers to arrive in any order
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[15:08] <Another> anyone can/care to tell me what shrinking is about?
[15:10] <Nico_32> Another: your store has reached his biggest size
[15:10] <Nico_32> so freenet try to delete obselete stored data
[15:10] <Another> nico_32, 50G of 100G is filled, shrinking it after boot takes more than 30 minutes!
[15:11] <Nico_32> yes
[15:11] <Beta_M> Another: they've made a hard 50/50 limit between store and cache
[15:11] <Beta_M> it use to be soft 80/20
[15:11] <Beta_M> you must ahve just updated
[15:11] <Another> nico_32, so I should increase the store?
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[15:19] <Beta_M> I have this function that should insert the data from the string passed to it. http://code.bulix.org/e4gdd9-22174 However, it just hangs there until the node is restarted. So i suspect that the node doesn't send anything back. I've even changed GetCHKOnly to true, hoping that it'll give me something, but to no avail. Am i missing something simple?
[15:21] <Another> Beta_M, thanks, actually the upper limit max chk is reached and that triggers a slow shrink at boot, makes sense, so, about to increase that max once current boot is finished
[15:21] <Beta_M> np
[15:26] <Zothar_Work> after the update to 993, you probably won't get store/cache shrinks on startup anymore unless you actually reduce the limit
[15:28] <Another> Beta_M, apparently (and makes sense too) it is store size from which max chk is deduced, also I saw at run time a quick shrink is triggered at 90% so the 50/50 means max chk = (store size / 2) / key size, ok, thanks again
[15:28] <Another> Zothar_work, it happened at least twice with 993 (10794)
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[15:29] <Beta_M> so can somebody at least give me a hint of the direction to go to solve my prob?
[15:30] <Another> ah, here it is: maxStoreKeys = maxTotalKeys / 2;
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[15:30] <fasta> toad_: ping
[15:31] <Another> would it be safe to abort th shrink, it looks like it will take about 1 30 minutes this time?
[15:33] <Zothar_Work> hmm, maybe it doesn't shrink all the way to 50% on the first start
[15:34] <fasta> toad_: anyway, I think 993 solved the problem I reported.
[15:35] <Another> Zothar_Work, mayube, anyway, it is time to increase the store and that should solve it (for now), but regardless, shrinking takes this node off line for at least 30 minutes if not 1 hour, currently at every restart
[15:36] <Another> Zothar_work, it seems no space is reserved to prevent this, once full, add one new key => shrink again etc.
[15:37] <Another> Zothar_Work, there was something like a fast memory allocation pattern, double available space each time it is completely used
[15:37] <Another> Zothar, that would be nice for this shrinking thing
[15:38] <Zothar_Work> I believe the limit is hard with 993, so once the shrink to 50/50 is completed, a new key will remove an old key immediately before adding the new key if needed
[15:39] <Zothar_Work> note that you may have to increase the size significantly, such that half is larger than 80% was
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[15:40] <Another> Zothar_Work, I throw another 100G at it, that should last for some days at least ;-)
[15:44] <fasta> Another: you want to cache whole freenet?
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[15:46] <Another> Zothar_Work, what strikes me is this: cache 50G store 0.5 G, allowed in all 100G so keys are dropped even if there is 49.5G available?
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[15:48] <Another> fasta, sure, but drop when plenty of space is available is a bit weird, don't you think?
[15:49] <fasta> Another: I suppose
[15:51] <Another> fasta, content drop is a problem, it is not just a matter of too few requests, unablility to get at it also is a factor, bigger stores everywhere makes keys last longer
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[15:51] <Another> gotta go now, bye
[15:51] <fasta> Another: I see
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[16:07] <_ph00> 15 quiet minutes?
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[16:07] <toad_> Syd2: reliably?
[16:07] <_ph00> how bout one line of spam? (OK, make that three)
[16:07] <_ph00> http://www.flumesday.com/102206bush.html
[16:11] <fasta> toad_: hi
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[16:27] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi again! I'm afraid we jumped the gun a bit too early, the network is not under a DDoS attack, it appears one of our staffers found a bug in our ircd. We should be all set and good now. Thank you for using freenode and have a good day.
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[16:42] <toad_> nextgens: pentium pro is a completely different chip to pentium
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[16:44] <toad_> fasta: pong
[16:45] <toad_> Syd2: did you have a problem?
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[16:49] <nextgens> toad_> how so ?
[16:49] <TheSeeker> Pentium Pro was the last good chip from Intel until the 'Core 2' :P
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[16:49] <toad_> heh
[16:49] <toad_> nextgens: ppro ~= pentium 2 without MMX
[16:49] <toad_> nextgens: *completely* different architecture
[16:50] <nextgens> ok, still, the common instruction set is pentium :p
[16:50] <toad_> ppro uses uops etc; it was the first intel chip to decode x86 instrs into RISC instrs and then run them as RISC internally
[16:50] <toad_> pentium is just a simple superscalar thingy, like the cyrix chips
[16:50] * toad_ hmmz.. is that right? who cares...
[16:50] <toad_> well yeah, the pentium core will be okay
[16:51] <toad_> a dedicated ppro core will be better
[16:51] <toad_> but would take up extra space and probably isn't worth it
[16:51] <toad_> point is, is the pentium core auto-selected?
[16:51] <nextgens> yes
[16:51] <toad_> you sure?
[16:51] <nextgens> almost
[16:52] <nextgens> as soon as there is an arithmetic coprocessor and it's "i386 compatible", pentium get selected
[16:52] <nextgens> and as MMX is missing, it won't be pentiummmx
[16:53] <toad_> so 486s are expected to have the new pentium instrs?
[16:53] <nextgens> it depends in fact
[16:54] <nextgens> as most SX 486 don't have a coprocessor
[16:54] <nextgens> some MX might
[16:54] <nextgens> hmm
[16:54] <toad_> DX you mean
[16:54] <nextgens> yes, sorry
[16:54] <toad_> DX has copro integrated, SX doesn't
[16:54] <nextgens> but anyway, who cares ? those processors aren't likely to be able to run a node
[16:55] <nextgens> as the fastest DX I'm aware of was 66-75Mhz
[16:55] <TheSeeker> people are stupid/crazy enough to try to run the node on anything ... :P
[16:55] <nextgens> mine was overclocked to almost 100Mhz ... but I bet that isn't sufficient anyway
[16:59] <nextgens> regarding "[Tech] private DSA key retrieveable over FCP2?" I think we shouldn't focus on that for now
[16:59] <nextgens> all our efforts are going to be useless anyway ... and probably a waste of time
[16:59] <nextgens> as the protocol isn't frozen yet
[17:00] <toad_> yeah but it should be
[17:00] <toad_> it should be becoming stable
[17:00] <toad_> if we need login to do dda, for example, the clients would need to be changed to deal with that
[17:00] * toad_ thinks it's a stupid idea to require login to do dda, nobody will EVER set it up if it has to be done manually
[17:01] <toad_> maybe only allowing DDA within the downloads directory
[17:01] <Zothar_Work> don't require login by default
[17:01] <TheBishop__> TheBishop_
[17:01] <toad_> it's THE BISHOP!
[17:01] <Zothar_Work> yay! :)
[17:01] * nextgens will be right back
[17:01] <toad_> we was *too late* for the reverend...
[17:02] <toad_> monty python reference...
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[17:15] <fasta> toad_: the issue I reported seems to be fixed in 993. Was that intended?
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[17:22] <toad_> fasta: yay
[17:22] <toad_> fasta: what was the issue?
[17:22] <fasta> toad_: homepage didn't load, other pages did.
[17:23] <toad_> yes that was supposed to be fixed
[17:23] <fasta> toad_: Freenet Froxy Homepage, to be more precise.
[17:23] <fasta> toad_: ok, good.
[17:27] <toad_> fProxy :)
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[17:29] <Skyman> my ref: http://dark-code.bulix.org/0wsase-14499?raw
[17:30] <Skyman> anyone wanna exchange refs?
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[17:31] <Zothar_Work> Skyman: see #freenet-refs
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[18:23] <gimpp> how do you get freenet to uninstall ?
[18:24] <gimpp> the uninstaller doesnt work
[18:27] <gimpp> that fucked up cant do an uninstall now ive got 3 installs
[18:27] <gimpp> and the frost boards still wont update
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[18:29] <gimpp> no input ?
[18:30] <gimpp> fucked up software !
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[18:50] <CIA-14> mrogers * r10797 /trunk/apps/load-balancing-sims/phase7/sim/ (10 files in 4 dirs): Token passing (not tested yet)
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[19:18] <MN> Is there any way you guys can make a NON-java installer?
[19:18] <MN> Your damn IZpack one is still giving me shit.
[19:18] <MN> More of it than I deserve.
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[19:33] * toad_ wonders what gimpp's bug was ...
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[20:05] <toad_> LOL @ http://code.bulix.org/oddngy-22212
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[20:06] <toad_> ugh, no newlines
[20:06] <toad_> doh
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[20:38] <Caco_Patane> so, the cache/store relation have changed in 993?
[20:38] * nextgens doesn't understand the "secure FCP" buzz
[20:39] <nextgens> fproxy isn't secure either
[20:39] <Caco_Patane> my node Cache Hits is going up
[20:39] <nextgens> as it allows the user to change the config
[20:43] <Caco_Patane> see my fancy graps that i made at work =D
[20:43] <Caco_Patane> http://caco.homelinux.org:9300/freenet-stat/output-2006-11-02.png
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[20:44] <Caco_Patane> who was coding the pyFreenet lib? aum was?
[20:44] <nextgens> yes, aum
[20:44] <Caco_Patane> (the graph starts at 00:00 today)
[20:45] <Caco_Patane> will update via svn and see if the lib was updated
[20:45] <Caco_Patane> to fetch stats via FCP
[20:46] * nextgens doubt it
[20:47] <nextgens> long time since we last saw aum
[20:47] <Caco_Patane> bbuuuuu...
[20:47] <Caco_Patane> so, will see if i can do it
[20:47] <nextgens> on the other hand, it should be trivial to implement
[20:48] <nextgens> bbiab
[20:48] <Caco_Patane> i will go home, see ya later.
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[20:49] <sandos> weird... my cache has _lots_ of space to grow in.. yet I dont see anywhere above 5% hit ratio?
[20:49] <sandos> I wonder if my neighbours are particularly inactive or something...
[20:49] <sandos> Overall size: 191,263 / 1,534,442 (5.83 GiB / 46.8 GiB) (12%)
[20:50] <Zothar_Work> Caco_Patane: The pyfcp lib hasn't been updated for the stats stuff I'm quite sure as I believe I've been the last non-trivial committer to that and that was "ages" ago
[20:50] <Zothar_Work> bah, I always miss that they've already left...
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[21:02] <sandos> I guess I should really fix the filesystem where my store is at before complaining about performance ;)
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[21:03] <sandos> not sure how that DB responds to failed reads ;)
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[21:33] <MineHaunter> some of my peers are constantly marked as BACKED OFF
[21:33] <MineHaunter> is that normal?
[21:33] <MineHaunter> I mean, I understand a temporary overload but a constant one is odd
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[21:50] <toad_> nextgens: it's secure against malicious local users? i think that's the idea
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[21:56] <bobbyd> hi
[21:58] <bobbyd> I'm trying to install freenet on windows XP Professional. The install fails because it can't download Librarian-r10370.jar
[21:58] <bobbyd> can anyone tell me if there's a work-around?
[22:03] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10798 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix index refreshing
[22:07] <toad_> MineHaunter: constant backoff indicates the node has performance/etc problems
[22:07] <toad_> bobbyd: try again?
[22:07] <toad_> bobbyd: can it fetch everything else?
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[22:12] <bobbyd> toad_: it just sits there with a filenotfound exception doing nothing
[22:12] <bobbyd> I've run it a lot of times
[22:13] <bobbyd> it's just trying the same URL and the file doesn't exist there
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[22:18] <toad_> bobbyd: strange
[22:18] <toad_> bobbyd: at what point during the install?
[22:19] <Zothar_Work> sounds like it's failing to get the Librarian plugin from one of the mirrors and apparently isn't managing to fail over to another mirror or something
[22:19] <toad_> bobbyd: can you get a screenshot?
[22:20] <toad_> bobbyd: i'd like to debug it, but if you just want it to work, reinstall and turn off the Librarian plugin
[22:20] <toad_> there's a page where it asks you what you want installed
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[23:49] <Caco_Patane> mmm
[23:49] <Caco_Patane> being able to access stats via FCP is documented in the wiki?
[23:50] <Zothar_Work> yes: GetNode I believe it is
[23:50] <Zothar_Work> the stats themselves aren't, but they very much mirror the names used on /darknet/ and /stats/

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