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[1:52] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10685 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Avoid useless reconnections
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[1:55] <_ph00> this is weird
[1:55] <_ph00> OK, first: an announcement
[1:55] <_ph00> I switched back to ubuntu
[1:56] <_ph00> I tried a couple of distros lately but for me, ubuntu offers a good balance of "linuxity" and ease of use (for lazy noobs like myself)
[1:56] <_ph00> then a possibly freenet-related thing:
[1:57] <_ph00> Firestarter (A GUI for iptables) shows lots of connection attempts on 16058, which is NOT my freenet port
[1:57] <_ph00> and I'm behind a nat where I can't access the router, no port forwarding
[1:58] <_ph00> so what coud be happening? those connection attempts blocked by the firewall come from a number of IP's
[1:58] <_ph00> (I'm not running any p2p app right now... well, freenet)
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[2:26] <_ph00> well, here we go again. same shit as debian: the OS is not bad but the support channel sucks. It sucks another way this time: #debian is full of linux-fascist that go rtfm, google it up and you should use windows all the time, while #ubuntu has people who think they are gurus but actually don't know what they're talking about
[2:26] <_ph00> </ot>
[2:27] <_ph00> (no biggie anyway, I mean the oT, there is not much freenet conversation going on right now)
[2:27] <_ph00> btw
[2:27] <_ph00> </whining>
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[3:41] <_ph00> can someone plz post the kwy to the 'indicia' index?
[3:41] <_ph00> I lost it during a reinstall, it was only bookmarked on firefox
[4:03] <TheSeeker> http://127.0.0.1:8888/freenet:USK@c55vMxUl-T-lD3nv0iOaXF~G1hnY6pOMRbzZSwACMmY,yd8~uwUmGm164-ipStoiBOJVjkbbYXJMlD~H5ftPxIA,AQABAAE/Indicia/41/
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[4:44] <_ph00> thx seeker
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[6:11] <lokadin> say i have a problem
[6:11] <lokadin> i have lots of users listed that i can connect to
[6:11] <lokadin> and one of them I know, and his node is online
[6:11] <lokadin> but i can't seem to connect to anyone
[6:12] <lokadin> i've connected to all of them before
[6:12] <lokadin> but just no longer
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[6:14] <lokadin> k well i restarted by node it seems okay
[6:14] <lokadin> connected to a bunch of people
[6:15] <_ph00> do you connect now?
[6:15] <_ph00> k
[6:16] <_ph00> sounds to me like you can connect to them but thay have problems connecting to you
[6:16] <_ph00> check that you fiorewall/router is properly set up
[6:16] <lokadin> is there any way of setting my domain name in the configuration file?
[6:16] <_ph00> and if it is... well
[6:17] <_ph00> at least you know: when you lose connection to your peers, restarting the node may help
[6:17] <lokadin> i'm pretty sure it's set up fine. my router forwards all ports except a select few to my server
[6:17] <_ph00> yes
[6:17] <_ph00> "all ports"?
[6:17] <_ph00> you only need to forward one
[6:17] <lokadin> well it's a server, i have many things on it
[6:17] <_ph00> the one with the same number that you see in a bunch of dir names and file names in your freenet dir
[6:18] <_ph00> OK
[6:18] <_ph00> what you mean your domanin's name?
[6:18] <lokadin> well lokiworld.org
[6:18] <_ph00> you want to set your domain's name instad for the IP detected by freenet?
[6:18] <_ph00> you can do that
[6:18] <_ph00> in the 'override IP' line
[6:18] <lokadin> kk thanks, i'll go do that
[6:19] <lokadin> kk
[6:19] <lokadin> thanks for the help :)
[6:19] <_ph00> btw, you don't happen to have some 10 Mbit of bandwidth that I can borrow? (I can't port forward)
[6:20] <_ph00> I mean, I can't port forward on my ISP's router, they charge extra for that
[6:21] <lokadin> ?
[6:21] <_ph00> but OK, I guess I could buy some bandwidth on a server if I really wanted to
[6:21] <_ph00> hm
[6:22] <_ph00> here comes the explanation:
[6:22] <_ph00> there is only one ISP i the country that can provide acceptable speeds, expecially on upload
[6:22] <_ph00> BUT
[6:22] <_ph00> (and a "but" that's big as a house)
[6:23] <_ph00> they keep me behind a NAT with no access to the router, so I can't port forward, and they charge 4 euros a day (!) for an IP that's accessible from the outside
[6:24] <_ph00> and as I said, that's the only ISP that provides good speeds, so switching is not an option
[6:24] <lokadin> wow
[6:24] <lokadin> that's terrible
[6:24] <_ph00> and no, I don't live in china
[6:24] <_ph00> it's actually inside the EU
[6:25] <lokadin> wow
[6:25] <lokadin> where is this?
[6:25] <_ph00> (really I would be ashamed of being born in this country... but I didn't get to choose, so...)
[6:25] <_ph00> the exact country is not important (not in a public *and* logged channel at least)
[6:26] <lokadin> i'd love to help, but i don't have any realy upload bandwidth, it caps out at 80KB/s
[6:26] <_ph00> but it's inside the EU, the southern side
[6:26] <_ph00> how much on DL?
[6:26] <_ph00> but OK
[6:26] <lokadin> 300KB/s
[6:26] <_ph00> that's less than I have
[6:27] <_ph00> I have 10Mbit on both up and down
[6:27] <lokadin> wow
[6:27] <_ph00> but I can't really use it because of the damn greedy ISP
[6:27] <lokadin> well i'm getting 5Mbit, but they haven't upgraded by area yet
[6:27] <_ph00> well, "wow" costs money
[6:27] <_ph00> 65 euros a month
[6:27] <_ph00> including a mandatory telephone land line
[6:28] <lokadin> more than twice what I pay,
[6:28] <_ph00> if you make the telephone say... 15 euros a month, even 20, it'??s still 45 for the connection
[6:29] <lokadin> hmmm' let me just convert that to canadian
[6:29] <_ph00> but even then, the telephon is not a real landline, they would never admit it, but it's VoIP
[6:29] <_ph00> 10 US dollars = some 8.5 euros
[6:29] <_ph00> but prices are different over here
[6:30] <lokadin> yea, i dono' i pay the equivalent of 31 euros for 5mbit down
[6:30] <_ph00> some things are way more expensive, other are chepaer, you can't really compare
[6:30] <lokadin> without including phone
[6:30] <_ph00> then it's cheaper here
[6:30] <_ph00> well...
[6:30] <_ph00> what does a telephone line cost over there?
[6:30] <lokadin> in that secret country you live in
[6:31] <_ph00> that's not a secret, actually, I simply don't want to say that on a logged channel
[6:31] <lokadin> about 21 euro
[6:31] <_ph00> so
[6:32] <_ph00> make 21 euros for the telephone, I'm paying 44 euros for the internet connection, a falt rate 24/7 at 10 Mbit up and 10 down
[6:32] <_ph00> that's cheap in canadian standard
[6:32] <_ph00> but for example in sweden
[6:32] <lokadin> for sure
[6:32] <_ph00> in some parts of sweden at least
[6:32] <lokadin> you can't have the best of everything
[6:33] <_ph00> you can get 100Mbit up and down for the equivalent of 30-35 euros
[6:33] <lokadin> not until singularity anyways
[6:33] <lokadin> wow, that's nice, but probably gonna have to wait here for wireless technologies to improve
[6:34] <_ph00> why do your pvt msg say that you0re away?
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[6:56] <lokadin> _ph00: sure people want religion
[6:56] <lokadin> they want to believe in something
[6:56] <lokadin> science has taken a lot away from them
[6:57] <lokadin> it took away their god
[6:57] <lokadin> it took away their superstitions
[6:57] <anonymouse> isn't that kind of a circular argument?
[6:57] <lokadin> what you mean?
[6:57] <anonymouse> oh nm i missed one of your lines!
[6:58] <lokadin> kk
[6:58] <lokadin> so that is why New Age has been so popular recently
[6:59] <anonymouse> people want religion because of: Illusion of Control, Magical Thinking, and (don't know if there's an official name for this one) it absolves them of having to be responsible for their actions
[6:59] <anonymouse> the first two are also the reason for most other superstitions
[7:00] <anonymouse> including the "new age" boatload of shit
[7:01] <lokadin> hmmm
[7:01] <_ph00> sadly enough, in here, we're some 80 or 90% rational atheists, or agnosticsts, and if there's some believer here and there (like toad for exmaple) they are mostly tolerant. I can live with tolerant Christians/muslims/whatever. But when they try to make the law enforce they moral values, then we can't co-exist
[7:02] <_ph00> so
[7:02] <_ph00> in the real world
[7:02] <_ph00> outside of theis chennel
[7:02] <_ph00> channel*
[7:02] <_ph00> we're a small minority
[7:02] <lokadin> is this not also real?
[7:02] <anonymouse> i read a study several months ago that found atheists to be the "least trusted" minority
[7:02] <anonymouse> lokadin: let's find out
[7:02] <_ph00> yes, this is also real, but you know what I mean
[7:02] * anonymouse levitates 2 feet above the ground
[7:03] <lokadin> yea, i do
[7:03] <anonymouse> nope, not real here.
[7:03] <anonymouse> =)
[7:03] <_ph00> over 50% of the people actually believe that the law should be based on some 'moral standards'
[7:03] <lokadin> laws of physics do not define reality
[7:03] <_ph00> oh, come on
[7:03] <lokadin> platonists
[7:03] <lokadin> aka idealists
[7:04] <_ph00> platonist? idealist? not me
[7:04] <_ph00> I'm a disciple of Diogenes
[7:04] <lokadin> people that base things on morals
[7:04] <_ph00> or Dyogenes
[7:04] <_ph00> or whatever you spell that
[7:04] <lokadin> what is that?
[7:04] <_ph00> he was the one who invented cynism
[7:04] <_ph00> cynism comes from 2kynos" = dog
[7:05] <_ph00> because he was called Diogenes "the Dog"
[7:05] <grillide> hello *, _ph00
[7:05] <anonymouse> i'm just a skeptic
[7:05] * grillide is now known as hjubal
[7:05] <lokadin> oh very good
[7:05] <lokadin> have you heard of my We With You Network project?
[7:06] <_ph00> so, basically, I see humanity as too stupid (on average) to do anything goos as a whole
[7:06] <_ph00> we with you network?
[7:06] <_ph00> no
[7:06] <anonymouse> i read it on frost
[7:06] <anonymouse> so now i know your frost identity
[7:06] <anonymouse> <_<
[7:06] <_ph00> hi grillide (do I know you?)
[7:06] <_ph00> oh
[7:06] <lokadin> :o !!! oh no, i must hide!! zo'o(humourously).ii(fear)
[7:06] <_ph00> hjubal
[7:06] <_ph00> OK
[7:06] <hjubal> grillide aka hjubal ;)
[7:07] <_ph00> yeah
[7:07] <_ph00> got it
[7:07] <lokadin> anonymouse: so what did you think?
[7:07] <lokadin> you have the same nick on frost too :P
[7:07] <anonymouse> me?
[7:07] <lokadin> yep
[7:07] <_ph00> anonymouse *what* did you read on frost? the me with you whatever that was?
[7:07] <anonymouse> no i don't
[7:07] <lokadin> really?
[7:07] <anonymouse> yes ph00
[7:08] <anonymouse> yes lokadin
[7:08] <_ph00> k
[7:08] <lokadin> i was mistaken
[7:08] <anonymouse> i only use 'anonymouse' on irc
[7:08] <anonymouse> it's kind of a popular name tho
[7:08] <lokadin> anonymouse: confused you with anonymost
[7:08] <anonymouse> there is also an 'anonymouse' back on 0.5 frost (at least there was a year ago)
[7:09] <anonymouse> or maybe i confuse it with usenet
[7:09] <anonymouse> anyway.
[7:09] <lokadin> anonymouse: but what did you think of the "article", your opinion counts
[7:09] <anonymouse> i don't think i have an opinion, because i was really tired when i read it
[7:09] <_ph00> I think there are not may ph00's
[7:09] <anonymouse> it didn't make sense to me (at the time)
[7:10] <_ph00> weird, because making up a nick like that is s not so difficult
[7:10] <anonymouse> i'm talking to lokadin, ph00
[7:11] <lokadin> hmmm, well i've been trying really hard to make it understandable, but it's just not concise enough
[7:11] <lokadin> i guess i should try focusing on one step at a time.
[7:12] <_ph00> <anonymouse> i'm talking to lokadin, ph00 <== so what? I read someting I answer...
[7:12] <lokadin> so the first step will be to create a Lojban programming language, lojban being a human-to-human language based on predicate logic
[7:13] <lokadin> i was thinking of just translating lojban statements into prolog
[7:14] <anonymouse> actually the first step would be to define something you're trying to do
[7:14] <anonymouse> like.. a purpose
[7:14] <anonymouse> a need to fill?
[7:14] <anonymouse> that would help frame the rest of it within some context
[7:14] <lokadin> that's what i tride doing with the first few documents
[7:14] <lokadin> umm
[7:15] <lokadin> well basically, the goal is to increase productivity, through automation and AI
[7:15] <anonymouse> automation of what
[7:16] <lokadin> computer processes
[7:16] <lokadin> or processes in general
[7:16] <lokadin> i mean once we get robots in the picture
[7:16] <anonymouse> so like .. perl
[7:16] <lokadin> no,
[7:16] <lokadin> more like, unix
[7:16] <anonymouse> let's try another angle
[7:17] <lokadin> and C
[7:17] <anonymouse> you want to create this because something that exists today is not good enough? what are the problems you are trying to address
[7:17] <lokadin> my computer doesn't understand me when i talk to it
[7:17] <anonymouse> THERE!
[7:17] <anonymouse> see how easy that was
[7:18] <anonymouse> you need to start with something like that
[7:18] <anonymouse> because now i'm interested
[7:18] <lokadin> :)
[7:18] <anonymouse> all this other predicate logic human-to-human compiler stuff ... who has any idea where you're going
[7:18] <lokadin> wow thank you
[7:18] <anonymouse> you need a thesis paragraph before you dive in
[7:19] <anonymouse> i knew that somewhere in there was your point.. but it was buried in technicality
[7:19] <lokadin> hmmm
[7:19] <lokadin> :D
[7:19] <anonymouse> like as if we were missing the first page of your paper =)
[7:20] <anonymouse> ok; i have to wander off again
[7:20] <lokadin> so i should write a thesis paragraph. you think i should format it as an essay?
[7:20] <lokadin> kk
[7:20] <lokadin> thanks for the help though
[7:20] <anonymouse> not necessarily
[7:20] <lokadin> have any ideas? or you have to go
[7:20] <anonymouse> i just think you should state your highest "wouldn't this bee cool" objective in terms that people can understand
[7:20] <anonymouse> before diving in to the mechanics
[7:20] <anonymouse> ttyl
[7:22] <lokadin> cya
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[11:09] <Gekkie> hey
[11:09] <Gekkie> any one here ?
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[12:28] <basti_> hmm so... i got a) NAT b) a dynamic ip
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[12:28] <basti_> a) what ports do i need to punch through?
[12:28] <basti_> b) what do i do with refs?
[12:34] <nextgens> basti_> you don't need to : if you want to do something, punch your FNP port (UDP) through
[12:35] <basti_> ok thanks
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[13:13] <Rleyh> is %{fnp port number} the only port freenet needs to be forwarded? im still getting a message that im behind a NAT
[13:13] <basti_> it's the same for me
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[13:21] <nextgens> yes it's the only one
[13:21] <nextgens> forwarding a port doesn't mean freenet isn't able to detect you're behind a nat ;)
[13:22] <basti_> so how does it?
[13:22] <Rleyh> "Your internet connection appears to be behind a port-restricted NAT (router). You will be able to connect to most other users, but not those behind symmetric NATs." of course but how to fix this
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[13:27] <nextgens> you can't
[13:27] <nextgens> it's a fact
[13:27] <nextgens> you are behind a nat
[13:27] <Rleyh> ok
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[14:54] <Nico_32> what is your networkSizeEstimateSession ?
[15:03] <Zothar> an advancedDarknet statistic
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[15:25] <sandos> # networkSizeEstimateSession: 972 nodes
[15:25] <sandos> # networkSizeEstimate24h: 391 nodes
[15:25] <sandos> # networkSizeEstimate48h: 457 nodes
[15:25] <sandos> # avrConnPeersPerNode: 7.160464 peers
[15:25] <sandos> # nodeUptime: 1w4d
[15:35] <basti_> how can I find other boards in frost?
[15:40] <nextgens> damn churn!
[15:41] <nextgens> according to sandos's node, it's even worst than what I thought
[15:41] <sandos> ?
[15:41] <sandos> how can you see churn from that
[15:42] <nextgens> well, it has counted 972 different locations in almost more than a week
[15:42] <nextgens> and only 391 of them are still active
[15:42] <nextgens> (have been seen in the last 24h)
[15:43] <nextgens> meaning that the equivalent of the network's size has "vanished" during the week
[15:43] <nextgens> how can freenet possibly work if it's like that all the time ?
[15:57] <sandos> uhm.. It neednt have vanished
[15:57] <nextgens> ?
[15:57] <sandos> unless I am misunderstanding anything
[15:57] <sandos> its possible we simply happen to not see any swaps from them, no?
[15:57] <nextgens> on such a small network it's unlikely
[15:57] <nextgens> but yes, it's possible
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[16:00] <Dandalf> hi everyone
[16:01] <Dandalf> i get this
[16:01] <Dandalf> Freenet is currently attempting to detect your external IP address. If this takes more than a few minutes there is something wrong and you can use the Temporary IP Address Hint
[16:01] <Dandalf> what should i do
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[16:05] <fm_rz> hi there.
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[17:25] <nextgens> sanity_> hi
[17:25] <nextgens> sanity_> I've set up a jabber server on emu
[17:25] <nextgens> sanity_> so far it works
[17:26] <nextgens> tell me if you want an account/gateways to be added
[17:27] <nextgens> sanity_> connections are going to be SSL only
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[17:30] <fasta> I forwarded the Freenet port in my router, I enabled UnPnP, but I still get "Port restricted cone NAT detected". Is that normal?
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[17:32] <nextgens> fasta> freenet isn't up&p aware
[17:32] <fasta> nextgens: but better than this the configuration won't get?
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[17:39] <anonymouse> is the lack of upnp a security feature of some kind? or just something that hasn't been built yet?
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[17:45] <Nitemare> i have a question. every 5min to 1hr all my peers get disconnected for some reason. the only way i've found to reconnect is to restart my node every time. is there any settings i can change to prevent this from happening?
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[17:49] <anonymouse> weird; my node always reconnects to others
[17:49] <anonymouse> some kind of host firewall issue?
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[17:52] <_ph00> wtf?!
[17:52] <anonymouse> w?
[17:53] <_ph00> my node ate up all my peers!!!
[17:53] <anonymouse> =(
[17:53] <_ph00> well ok
[17:53] <anonymouse> explains why you haven't been connected to me
[17:53] <_ph00> let's do some reconnecting
[17:53] <Nitemare> i don't know. i've tried turning my firewall off tho
[17:53] <_ph00> you were one of my peers... (now the problem is "who were the other ones)
[17:53] <anonymouse> that part i can't help you with
[17:54] <anonymouse> i guess this makes a good argument to save a copy of the node config file
[17:54] <Nitemare> i think you're on my list _ph00
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[18:11] <_ph00> nitemare I don't think I had you as a peer before, maybe you changed node name?
[18:12] <Nitemare> i did a while back
[18:12] <_ph00> what was you previous node namme?
[18:12] <_ph00> r
[18:12] <Nitemare> you had to ask...
[18:12] <_ph00> (my internet radio is playin deep purple!)
[18:12] <Nitemare> i don't remember lol
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[18:13] <_ph00> you previous nick name here?
[18:14] <Nitemare> always been Nitemare
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[18:15] <_ph00> I don't think we were peer before then
[18:15] <sanity> has anyone seen toad in the last few days?
[18:15] <_ph00> but ok
[18:15] <_ph00> sanity, I saw him connecting to #freenet-chat for a bunch of seconds some 3 or four days ago
[18:15] <_ph00> some 10 seconds or so
[18:16] <sanity> hmz
[18:16] <_ph00> and it *was* him, the cloak was right
[18:16] <Nitemare> i had your's and i swear we were connected for a while... don't know, i'm easily confused lol
[18:17] <_ph00> np
[18:17] <_ph00> maybe I remeber wrongly
[18:18] <_ph00> you know drugs, rock and roll and no sex...
[18:18] <_ph00> that fucks the brain up...
[18:18] <Nitemare> you got that right
[18:18] <Nitemare> mine's shot all to hell
[18:18] <_ph00> griffon25, theseeker, you have mail
[18:18] <_ph00> griffon26
[18:19] <_ph00> woah
[18:19] <_ph00> rnow they're playing led zeppelin!
[18:19] <_ph00> that's what I call a classic rock station
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[18:20] <hopeatikari> hi
[18:20] <Nitemare> mine is playing rollins band
[18:20] <_ph00> cool
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[18:27] <CIA-14> zothar * r10686 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add percent Time Routable and export it and a few other things via FCP.
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[18:28] <Griffon26> _ph00: so do you
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[18:52] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10687 /trunk/apps/Thaw/ (17 files in 6 dirs): It's now possible to reimport indexes from freenet
[18:57] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10688 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Fix NPE
[18:57] <Jflesch> oops
[18:57] <Jflesch> I didn't see FreenetLogBot message
[18:58] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10689 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/core/FreenetURIHelper.java: Add missing class
[19:00] <sleon> # networkSizeEstimateSession: 818 nodes
[19:00] <sleon> # networkSizeEstimateRecent: 457 nodes
[19:00] <sleon> # nodeUptime: 1w1d
[19:00] <Jflesch> \o/
[19:00] <sleon> Jflesch: how is thaw going?
[19:00] <Jflesch> sleon: well :)
[19:00] <Jflesch> indexes are starting to work correctly :)
[19:01] <sleon> Jflesch: did you solved that issue with download-locksups?
[19:01] <sleon> Jflesch: i looked at source and tryed to find it
[19:01] <Jflesch> sleon: no ... it happens not really often .. so it's really hard to find what's wrong
[19:01] <Jflesch> sleon: I'm not sure it's on Thaw side
[19:01] <sleon> Jflesch: somehow it has something to do with locked state
[19:01] <Jflesch> I honnestly believe it's on the node side
[19:02] <Jflesch> sleon: no, the lock are only the visible part of the problem
[19:02] <sleon> Jflesch: i think it somehow goes into the state where the lock on the file is on and then never leaves it
[19:02] <sleon> ok
[19:02] <sleon> Jflesch: i try harder next time :D
[19:03] <sleon> Jflesch: but ignoring this issue , thaw is a really great tool
[19:03] <sleon> Jflesch: i am so excited it is there now
[19:03] <Jflesch> sleon: As I see the problem: Thaw send a GetRequestStatus to fetch a file from the node, and the node doesn't answer... so it wait ... just wait ... (-> lock)
[19:03] <Jflesch> sleon: I've partially solve this issue
[19:04] <Jflesch> now Thaw use multiple connections to retreive the files from the node ^^
[19:04] <Jflesch> so if a connection stay locked, it's not really a problem
[19:04] <sleon> Jflesch: so you step away from single socket design?
[19:04] <Jflesch> yes
[19:04] <sleon> Jflesch: problem is that it saves the state of connection somewhere :|
[19:04] <Jflesch> ?
[19:04] <sleon> Jflesch: so you need completely delete download and add it again to be able to fetch it
[19:05] <Jflesch> for the locked ones ?
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[19:05] <sleon> yes
[19:05] <Jflesch> currently yes ... as I said, I didn't really solve this problem
[19:05] <sleon> Jflesch: where is the locked-state saved?
[19:05] <Jflesch> the file remains locked ... but at least the other are not locked with
[19:05] <Jflesch> FCPConnection
[19:06] <Jflesch> ( thaw.fcp.FCPConnection )
[19:06] <sleon> Jflesch: and in which file is it saved when i shut down thaw?
[19:06] <Jflesch> the locks ? they are not save
[19:06] <Jflesch> d
[19:06] <sleon> Jflesch: that means it is "saved" somewhere on the node
[19:07] <Jflesch> oh in the node? I don't know
[19:07] <sleon> Jflesch: it is somehow so, because as soon any file gets locked, you have no chance to get it
[19:07] <Jflesch> I didn't look at the node source code currently ... I will do it since the indexes will be ready
[19:07] <sleon> Jflesch: so you remove it, and as we know that thaw only shows downloads in the queue on the node and does not save anything about queue localy
[19:08] <Jflesch> sleon: but Fproxy is still able to fetch them, even if in Thaw they are locked
[19:08] * sleon excpet indexes
[19:08] <sleon> then i asume that it is sort of a state on the node
[19:08] <sleon> Jflesch: right
[19:08] <sleon> Jflesch: but you can not download them
[19:08] <sleon> Jflesch: i think now too that it is fcp/fproxy issue
[19:15] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10690 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (core/FreenetURIHelper.java plugins/index/Index.java): Take into consideration an index revision increase
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[19:21] <troythered> when installing freenet onto a linux box, do I need to be able to run X or can I get away with just a console
[19:23] <troythered> damn, no time, bbl
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[19:54] <Jflesch> s/a file/many files/ .....
[19:54] <Jflesch> (too late I guess :p)
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[19:57] <sleon> Jflesch: :D
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[20:15] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10693 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/ (Index.java IndexEditorPanel.java): Fix index reloading resume
[20:16] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10694 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Fix the fix
[20:25] <sleon> * Cached keys: 102,510 (3.12 GiB)
[20:25] <sleon> * Stored keys: 26,023 (813 MiB)
[20:25] <sleon> * Overall size: 128,533/122,755 (3.92 GiB/3.74 GiB)
[20:25] <sleon> * Cache hits: 13,520 / 350,489 (3%)
[20:25] <sleon> * Store hits: 1,645 / 294,241 (0%)
[20:25] <sleon> * Avg. access rate: 0/s
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[20:38] <_ph00> Nitemare, diconnected. is you node up?
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[20:53] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10695 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix right click menu in link table
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[21:20] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10696 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/ (IndexTree.java LinkTable.java): Doesn't allow to add an already added index
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[21:59] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10697 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Put a higher priority on the index downloads and insertions
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[22:14] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10698 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Set MaxRetries=-1 for the indexes
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[22:19] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10699 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/Index.java: Refix NPE
[22:24] <sleon> Jflesch: regreshion tests :D
[22:24] <sleon> Jflesch: do you know how to use JUnit?
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[22:26] <Jflesch> sleon: no, sorry
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[22:26] <Jflesch> (and this NPE would have pass the test since the exception was caught ....)
[22:28] <CIA-14> nextgens * r10700 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (31 files in 6 dirs): Thaw: remove unused imports
[22:29] <nextgens> Jflesch> you're still catching two NPEs in PluginManager
[22:29] * nextgens suggests you try to do it otherwise
[22:29] <nextgens> what about testing the size of the vector ?
[22:30] <nextgens> where would the NPE come from ?
[22:30] <Jflesch> nextgens: I will look at this tomorow
[22:34] <netcrusher88> how do insert with a USK key?
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[22:53] <CIA-14> nextgens * r10701 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (55 files in 8 dirs): Thaw: pass the source code through eclipse's code cleanup assistant... Fix a comparator implementing the hashCode() method... Put the constant side on the left end when doing an equality test
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[23:56] <thill2708> I can't seem to join any peers I enter :(
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[23:58] <_ph00> thill2708, what do you mean exactly?
[23:59] <_ph00> you add peers and they won't connect?
[23:59] <thill2708> basically
[23:59] <_ph00> ok
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