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[2:11] <TheSeeker> jax: there is no search
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[9:23] <CIA-14> mrogers * r10662 /trunk/apps/load-balancing-sims/phase6/ (20 files in 2 dirs): Fun with polymorphism
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[9:28] <fasta> Where are partial downloads stored?
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[9:47] <_ph00> fasta, in <path>/freenet/downloads
[9:48] <fasta> _ph00: I don't see the file currently being downloaded there. I do however see the completed files.
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[9:49] <_ph00> maybe it's hidden? do you have the option "show hidden files" enabled?
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[9:49] <fasta> ls -a does not show it
[9:50] <_ph00> well, then it's not there
[9:50] <fasta> that's why I asked :P
[9:51] <_ph00> it should be somewhere in freenet, have you tried 'find'?
[9:52] <_ph00> I always assumed it was there... (never needed to see a patially downloaded file)
[9:53] <fasta> I have, and it's not there. I think they assemble it later on.
[9:55] <iwantnode> I think in freenet .7 it is asembeled at the end. In .5 you see them
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[10:22] <_ph00> now that's even wierder
[10:23] <_ph00> I downloaded a bunch of txt files, thaw says they're done and available, but they're not in the dir where they hsould be
[10:23] <_ph00> should*
[10:28] <iwantnode> i have never used thaw so dont know
[10:28] <_ph00> it's just an interface
[10:28] <_ph00> the node is still doing the downloads/uploads
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[10:41] <_ph00> heh
[10:41] <_ph00> find found them
[10:41] <_ph00> ...in the parent directory to the one where they should be
[10:41] <_ph00> (my mistake probably)
[10:47] <kneerel> hi where can i get nodes ? is there a site to get them from ?
[10:48] <_ph00> #freenet-refs
[10:48] <_ph00> and you need them to add you too
[10:48] <kneerel> thx!!
[10:49] <_ph00> adding peers won't work: you have to exchange. i.e. you add one, he adds you, *then* you connect
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[10:51] <kneerel> I see... I will try it...
[10:51] <Gzinfeu> Hi all
[10:51] <Gzinfeu> I need peers to connect, no ?
[10:52] <Gzinfeu> Can someone send me a node ?
[10:52] <Griffon26> Gzinfeu: read the topic
[10:53] <Gzinfeu> The FAQ ?
[10:58] <Griffon26> I suppose. The FAQ would probably tell you what refs are and then you would know that the part you should look at is "if you would like to exchange references, please join #freenet-refs."
[11:01] <_ph00> Gzinfeu, go to http://127.0.0.1:8888/darknet, copy the text from 'lastgoodversion' to 'end' included, copy the text under "my reference" from "lastgoodversion" to "end" included goto http://pastebin.ca (or to dark-code.bulix.org) paste the text and post here the address to your paste
[11:01] <_ph00> oops
[11:02] <_ph00> post your refs' url on #freenet-refs not here
[11:02] <_ph00> also read the faq,
[11:02] <_ph00> you need to understand what you're doing
[11:04] <Gzinfeu> Hummm...I used http://refex.s-coding.nl/ref.php
[11:04] <_ph00> is that a patebin?
[11:04] <_ph00> any pastebin is good
[11:05] <Gzinfeu> It was a link on the FAQ
[11:05] <_ph00> k
[11:05] <Gzinfeu> So i think that it is good
[11:05] <_ph00> *any* pastebin is good
[11:06] <Gzinfeu> It didnt worked
[11:06] <Gzinfeu> I try you suggest
[11:08] <Gzinfeu> http://pastebin.ca/203735
[11:08] <_ph00> nice
[11:08] <_ph00> now add /raw in the middle
[11:09] <Gzinfeu> ?
[11:09] <_ph00> http://pastebin.ca/raw/203735
[11:09] <Gzinfeu> ok
[11:09] <_ph00> that makes life easier for those who need to copy the text
[11:09] <Gzinfeu> And then ?
[11:10] <_ph00> now join #freenet-refs, give them your url, and goto others' urls to add their refs: you copy the refs and add them in your darknet page
[11:10] <_ph00> each one you add, has to add you as well, then you'll connect
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[11:56] <_ph00> I'm sorry, I know the 'no content discussions' rule, but this is importants, and it's only ...inspired by a frost message (anonymous post on the e-books board)
[11:56] <_ph00> does anyone know if this is real?
[11:56] <_ph00> <quote>
[11:56] <_ph00> Toad, one off the main coders of freenet told me today, about a high risk security hole in the freenet nodes. Whith the hole it is possible to run every code you want one nodes you know the IP. Someone can spy your harddisk with no problem. Your p?ersanal data is in danger! Toad also some me an piece off code, to test the security hole. I don't belive it, but it works.
[11:56] <_ph00> </quote>
[11:57] <_ph00> sounds to me like a fake (at least, I hope it is)
[11:57] <_ph00> anyone knows anything about this?
[11:58] <sandos> hahaha
[11:58] <sandos> nice one
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[12:05] <_ph00> I told
[12:05] <_ph00> looks like a fake to me
[12:06] <_ph00> but it could scare people, maybe that's the point
[12:06] <_ph00> ...whatever
[12:06] <MineHaunter> My node ate my peerlist
[12:06] <_ph00> *what*?
[12:06] <_ph00> oh
[12:06] <_ph00> I know what may be happened
[12:07] <_ph00> check your freenet dir and see if you have two differnt numbers in your *-<port-number> filenames and dirnames
[12:07] <MineHaunter> I do
[12:07] <_ph00> right
[12:08] <_ph00> now, find out what's your older port number (the peers-<number> file has some peers in it
[12:08] <_ph00> stop the node
[12:08] <_ph00> edit wrapper.conf to make it point at the right port
[12:08] <_ph00> restart
[12:09] <_ph00> tell me how it goes
[12:09] <MineHaunter> these files are both 0 bytes
[12:09] <_ph00> even the older peers-<number>
[12:09] <_ph00> ?
[12:09] <MineHaunter> yep
[12:09] <_ph00> check out peers-<number>~
[12:10] <_ph00> with a ~
[12:10] <_ph00> if something chenged it, it should be there
[12:10] <MineHaunter> no backups :(
[12:10] <_ph00> damn
[12:10] <MineHaunter> Now I know I should backup the freenet directory
[12:11] <_ph00> I'm lousy on backups too
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[12:37] <fancyfine> I have not used freenet in some years. It used to come with some peers, and gain more automatically - now I have to add them by hand? Only the first ones, or all?
[12:38] <MineHaunter> all of them
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[12:39] <fancyfine> then traffic is only between known peers? does this not reduce anonymity?
[12:41] <MineHaunter> You can choose your peers, and no one except them know that you are running freenet
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[13:10] <Griffon26> _ph00: you think toad would give code to exploit such a flaw to some random anonymous user? And you think that if toad had given it to someone, that someone would be likely to post a warning like this anonymously?
[13:11] <grillide> hola _ph00!
[13:11] <_ph00> no
[13:11] <_ph00> hola
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[13:12] <_ph00> I think that's a troll
[13:12] <_ph00> oh, I got it (grillide= ... I know who)
[13:12] <grillide> eheh
[13:12] <grillide> I've been disconnected.. hjubal is a ghost :(
[13:13] <_ph00> so kill him
[13:13] <_ph00> /msg nickserv ghost hjubal <password>
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[13:14] <_ph00> *dead!
[13:14] <grillide> thx.. i was looking for the rtfm:P
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[13:14] <_ph00> no, you were looking for TFM
[13:14] <_ph00> (R = read)
[13:14] <hjubal> indeed!
[13:15] <CharAttack> very productive discussion
[13:15] <_ph00> maybe they shoud make a /rtfm command available
[13:15] <_ph00> like /rtfm ghost
[13:15] <_ph00> CharAttack, so add something more productive
[13:16] <CharAttack> cannot :P
[13:17] <hjubal> sorry CharAttack :\
[13:17] <hjubal> next time I'll send a private msg
[13:17] <CharAttack> its okay
[13:17] <CharAttack> i find /rtfm very funny
[13:18] <CharAttack> i read a bit of the log
[13:18] <CharAttack> is there a way to put together a not completed download for preview?
[13:19] <_ph00> why you wanna do that?
[13:19] <_ph00> it would spoil the surprise :P
[13:19] <CharAttack> lol
[13:19] <CharAttack> i actually dont want a surprise
[13:20] <CharAttack> i prefere selecting
[13:20] <CharAttack> and i start at least every second sentence with i
[13:22] <CharAttack> i use this anaphor to dramatise my needs
[13:22] <_ph00> that's almost needed in germanic languages, as you can't conjugate verbs to impy the person as in latin laguages, you have to specify *who* does what, do when you talk about yourself you'll be almost forced to start sentences with *I*
[13:22] <_ph00> imply*
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[13:23] <CharAttack> you're right
[13:23] <CharAttack> i probably talk too much about myself
[13:23] <_ph00> of course I am :P
[13:23] <_ph00> no, that's not the point
[13:24] <_ph00> I didn't say you shouldn't tal?k about yourself, I said, when you do, you must start with I
[13:24] <CharAttack> i know ;)
[13:25] <CharAttack> i thought i would come here to learn something about freenet through discussion, but it seems no one wants to teach
[13:26] <_ph00> ask a question, someone usually answers
[13:26] <CharAttack> except about germanic languages
[13:26] <_ph00> you can't go "teach me"
[13:26] <CharAttack> ok
[13:26] <CharAttack> what is my problem?
[13:26] <_ph00> you ask me?
[13:26] <_ph00> what am I a goddamn shrink?
[13:27] <_ph00> </italian mobster accent>
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[13:27] <CharAttack> wait i second i go looking up shrink
[13:27] <_ph00> psychologist
[13:27] <_ph00> (in the US)
[13:28] <CharAttack> sl. means slang, doesn't it?
[13:28] <_ph00> shrink is a verb meaning "become smaller", but it's used as a noun to signify psychologist, psychiatrist, stuff like that
[13:28] <_ph00> I think so
[13:28] <CharAttack> i see
[13:29] <_ph00> how's thet possible that so many people don't know that word? it's extensively used in all american movies/tv shows
[13:29] <CharAttack> i shrink away from this amount of knowledge...
[13:30] <CharAttack> i actually never heard it
[13:30] <_ph00> mm...
[13:30] <CharAttack> o wait
[13:30] <_ph00> more probably, you never noticed it
[13:30] <CharAttack> there was a compression app called shrink
[13:30] <_ph00> now you know what it means so you'll notice it next time
[13:30] <CharAttack> probably
[13:30] <_ph00> the compession tool means shrink as in becoming smaller
[13:31] <CharAttack> yes i got that one
[13:31] <_ph00> maybe shrink to say psychologist comes from the idea that they squeeze your brain, or something
[13:32] <CharAttack> of course
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[13:32] <_ph00> well, I can do my own brain-squeezing... at the same price, and much more fun :P
[13:33] <_ph00> ...man... the colors....
[13:33] <CharAttack> if you see colors you probably don't have shrink-free concrete in your walls
[13:34] <_ph00> sometimes I can't tell colors from sounds
[13:34] <CharAttack> onomatopoeia
[13:35] <_ph00> onomatopaeia is a word coming from a sound, like "bang"
[13:35] <_ph00> how does that realtes to my psychedelic experiences?
[13:35] <_ph00> relate
[13:35] <CharAttack> onomatopoeia means in german literally "Sound-painting"
[13:36] <_ph00> tha's greek, not german
[13:36] <_ph00> it's used in many languages, anyways
[13:36] <_ph00> aha
[13:36] <CharAttack> i mean we have a own word for this
[13:36] <_ph00> now I know why you didn't know slang words
[13:36] <CharAttack> and it literally would mean in English sound-painting
[13:36] <_ph00> because in germany, they dub movies
[13:37] <_ph00> get the original versions on the internet and you'll leran a lot more english
[13:37] <_ph00> and
[13:37] <CharAttack> if dub means rerecording with own voices then yes
[13:37] <_ph00> the movies will become a lot better
[13:37] <_ph00> dubbing = adding local voices
[13:37] <CharAttack> you won't believe it but lots of our DVDs have an English track, too.
[13:38] <_ph00> they do that in a lot of countries, including the one where I live, but I think it's totally wrong
[13:38] <_ph00> I never pay money for watching movies
[13:38] <_ph00> so, as they're all dubbed on TV, I must get them on the internet
[13:38] <CharAttack> you can also download dvds, right?
[13:38] <_ph00> dvd images yes
[13:39] <CharAttack> no, just print the dvd
[13:39] <_ph00> we switch this conversation to #freenet-chat
[13:39] <CharAttack> it works with blue ray :P
[13:39] <_ph00> this should be the freenet support channel
[13:39] <CharAttack> i know i wanted reading the support but there is none
[13:40] <_ph00> ?
[13:40] <CharAttack> I know. I wanted to read the support provided to the user questions, but there is no support.
[13:41] <CharAttack> (Because there are no questions.)
[13:41] <_ph00> keep waitng
[13:41] <CharAttack> ok
[13:41] <_ph00> or, ask own questions
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[13:42] <CharAttack> ok
[13:42] <CharAttack> why doesn't it matter to which node you are connected
[13:42] <CharAttack> how is it possible that you always get all the data
[13:42] <CharAttack> because of udp?
[13:43] <CharAttack> (actually you never get all the data, but I mean theoratically)
[13:43] <_ph00> because you're connected to some, who are connetced to some more and so forth
[13:44] <_ph00> so it doesn't matter who you are directly connected to, you 'll get the data anyways
[13:44] <CharAttack> but only if the people you are connected to are not only connected to you and themselves
[13:44] <_ph00> and the more nodes request the same file, the more that file will be mirrored on different stores, the easier it becomes for anyone to get it
[13:44] <CharAttack> what you say was actually the reason why i wanted your ref
[13:45] <CharAttack> thats clear
[13:45] <_ph00> no, you don't need *my* refs
[13:45] <_ph00> you need some 10 connected peers, that's all
[13:45] <CharAttack> but what if my "relatives" also don't have *your* ref?
[13:46] <_ph00> they'll have someone else, who in his torn will have someone else... can take some 50 jumps to get to me, but it will
[13:46] <_ph00> turn*
[13:46] <Gzinfeu> How do I change the ports used by freenet ?
[13:46] <_ph00> why you think 2 jumps is the maximum?
[13:47] <_ph00> in freenet.ini I guess
[13:47] <CharAttack> isn't this a very slow connection between you and me?
[13:47] <Gzinfeu> I found it, forget it
[13:47] <_ph00> why you want a direct connection between you and me anyway?
[13:48] <CharAttack> because you seem to me like a 24/7 guy that has all the data stored...
[13:48] <_ph00> all you want is download a file I uploaded, it shoule be in my peers' stores and in their peers stores, so request it and you'll get it even if I'm down
[13:48] <_ph00> and I don't have all the data stored, my store is small
[13:49] <_ph00> and for a parnoid guy like myself, the more you insist in wanting my refs, the more I'll suspect you are a bad guy
[13:50] <CharAttack> i'm glad that not everyone says "you don't need mine, my peers have my files"
[13:50] <_ph00> I said "I don't need yours, I have peers enough", remember?
[13:50] <CharAttack> yes i do
[13:50] <CharAttack> and the only people who need some are the ones who dont have enough
[13:51] <CharAttack> the newbies, like i am
[13:51] <_ph00> who knows, maybe I'll need more when some of my peers will quit
[13:51] <fasta> CharAttack: "all the data stored"?
[13:51] <CharAttack> i know its not all the data...
[13:51] <_ph00> *nobody* has 'all the data stored'
[13:52] <CharAttack> it looks to me, as if the newbies are one group and do not have enough connection to the contents of freenet
[13:52] <_ph00> anyways, I think I undertsnd what you mean, if noob only connect to noobs, that will creat two separate networks, a noobnet and a oldusernet
[13:53] <CharAttack> yeah
[13:53] <_ph00> well, that's not a real problem
[13:53] <fasta> _ph00: If you use Linux: do you automatically start your node at boot?
[13:53] <_ph00> fasta, yes, and no
[13:53] <_ph00> I use slackware, and I start manually
[13:53] <fasta> CharAttack: the question you are asking is a FAQ. There's only one "network".
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[13:54] <fasta> (although, I wonder whether the answer on that FAQ is correct, heh)
[13:54] <_ph00> I made a symbolic link to the freenet dir in my home dir, so all I need to do is cd to freenet and ./run.sh start
[13:54] <_ph00> nn need for an auto start at boot time, when you only boot once or twice a week
[13:54] <fasta> _ph00: that's what I did first. Now, I added it too my boot scripts.
[13:55] <fasta> _ph00: I think it helps the network a lot more.
[13:55] <_ph00> nah
[13:55] <_ph00> what helps the network is the node staying up, not the way you start it
[13:55] <fasta> _ph00: That's what I mean.
[13:56] <fasta> _ph00: I don't really run it that often otherwise.
[13:56] <_ph00> so what's the difference? you autostart and I manually start at each boot, both nodes are up all the time
[13:56] <fasta> _ph00: none if you put it this way.
[13:56] <fasta> _ph00: I mean that *I* didn't start it manually at boot everytime.
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[13:57] <CharAttack> fasta actually i cant find it in the faq
[13:57] <_ph00> well, if you're the kind of guy that boots and starts surfing (or whatever) right away, having it in the boot scripts can be good. me, I always run freenet, tor, privoxy etc manually after startup, so I'm used to run some terminal lines firt
[13:58] <_ph00> s
[13:58] <_ph00> fitst
[13:58] <fasta> CharAttack: Will I be able to browse more freesites on the "Darknet" if I get more connections?
[13:58] <_ph00> what you need is not *lots* of connections, but *stable* connection
[13:58] <_ph00> s
[13:59] <fasta> _ph00: oh, you look on Freenet everyday?
[13:59] <_ph00> "I look on" freenet?
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[13:59] <CharAttack> fasta this is not my question
[13:59] <fasta> _ph00: "browse"
[13:59] <fasta> CharAttack: Look at the answer
[13:59] <_ph00> no, not really
[13:59] <CharAttack> great
[13:59] <Gzinfeu> My freenet is blocked to Freenet is Starting
[13:59] <_ph00> most of the time I just let it run
[14:00] <_ph00> Gzinfeu, windows, huh?
[14:00] <Gzinfeu> yes
[14:00] <_ph00> kill the process and restart
[14:00] <_ph00> maybe reboot, even
[14:00] <Gzinfeu> Just a right clic and Exit also works, no ?
[14:00] <_ph00> (the old windows-cure-for-everything)
[14:00] <_ph00> if it's stuck, it won't
[14:00] <fasta> The Windows version automatically starts up at boot, right?
[14:00] <_ph00> but try
[14:01] <Gzinfeu> Freenet responds
[14:01] <_ph00> I think you can sat it to start at bootup
[14:01] <_ph00> set
[14:01] <CharAttack> I think the answer is also not my question, but doesn't matter.
[14:01] <CharAttack> Have to go. Bye. Thanks.
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[14:01] <Gzinfeu> For lunch at startup, pur a shortcut in the Start Menu, Programs, Startup
[14:02] <_ph00> right
[14:02] <_ph00> so it doesn't start at boot by default
[14:02] <_ph00> you can launch any app at startup that way
[14:02] <Gzinfeu> It's already done by default
[14:02] <Gzinfeu> yes
[14:02] <_ph00> it is?
[14:02] <Gzinfeu> :-p
[14:02] <_ph00> k
[14:03] <fasta> That's what I meant.
[14:03] <fasta> That's smart of the developers.
[14:03] <_ph00> a bit intrusive
[14:03] <Gzinfeu> Freenet can't pass the step :
[14:03] <Gzinfeu> 5 oct. 2006 16:01:41 (freenet.node.Node, main): starting ListenSelector..
[14:03] <_ph00> but windows users are used with intrusive stuff
[14:03] <fasta> The Windows users don't understand nor care, so why should the developers?
[14:04] <fasta> And if they care they can easily disable it.
[14:04] <_ph00> I've used windows for years, and eventually I switched to linux because of thet attitude.
[14:04] <_ph00> that
[14:05] <_ph00> I mean, if I want a program to start at boot, I set it
[14:05] <_ph00> like, I had to use SpybotSD to disable all those useless autostart registry entries
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[14:05] <Gzinfe1> Freenet can't pass the step : 5 oct. 2006 16:01:41 (freenet.node.Node, main): starting ListenSelector..
[14:06] <_ph00> many apps go straight in the registry, you don't see any menu/starup entry
[14:06] <_ph00> Gzinfe1, format the drive and install linux (WARNING: process may cause data loss)
[14:06] <_ph00> :P
[14:06] <_ph00> no really, I don't know what's wrong
[14:06] <nextgens> Gzinfe1> hmm
[14:07] <nextgens> do you have a weird setup, with multiple network interfaces ?
[14:07] <nextgens> and/or a missconfigured routing table ?
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[14:10] <fasta> Is it possible to send a message to a disconnected node?
[14:13] <_ph00> it will be send wen it reconnects, of course
[14:14] <fasta> _ph00: But the message stays in my local queue then?
[14:14] <fasta> _ph00: it does not work by posting a message in the data store where the other node can fetch it from?
[14:16] <_ph00> I don't really know, all I know is that a diconnected node won't fetch anything
[14:18] <_ph00> btw, those n2ntm are still a bit buggy, best not using them if not really needed: once I got the same message over 300 times, and another time I got the same message each time the sender peer reconnected, for a week. then another one sent a message to test, twice, and I never got it
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[15:24] <chickenface1> anyone wanna exchange node ?
[15:24] <chickenface1> http://dark-code.bulix.org/t8hmx6-18980?raw
[15:25] <MineHaunter> chickenface1: go to #freenet-refs to exchange refs :)
[15:25] <chickenface1> k
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[16:02] <_ph00> hehe
[16:02] <_ph00> [OT]
[16:03] <_ph00> I found a 'list of car names that when preceded by the word 'anal' sound like bad porn'
[16:04] <_ph00> like anal Fiesta or anal Hummer
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[16:13] <SharkP> hi
[16:13] <SharkP> is there someone to help me?
[16:13] <SharkP> ad possibly,italian?
[16:14] <SharkP> but nevermind if is english
[16:15] <SharkP> Someone help me!
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[16:16] <SharkP> who want to help me?
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[16:49] <sleon> SharkP i help you
[16:49] <sleon> :D
[16:51] <sbc> sleon: He's gone... Didn't give us long time to respond...
[17:01] <sleon> sbc: yep :)
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[17:07] <Gzinfe1> Some of you want to send me their ID ?
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[17:13] <_ph00> why would I send you my ID?
[17:13] <_ph00> he's gone...
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[17:16] <Gzinfeu> How do we browse through freenet ?
[17:16] <Gzinfeu> And not the 'normal' internet ?
[17:20] <Griffon26> Gzinfeu: read the faq yet?
[17:21] <CIA-14> nextgens * r10663 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/keys/FreenetURI.java: Try to detect URLEncoded freenet URIs and handle them
[17:21] <nextgens> I'm not sure about what I've just commited
[17:21] <nextgens> it needs testing
[17:21] <Gzinfeu> I'm going to finish it
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[17:31] <sleon> wooot
[17:32] <nextgens> ?
[17:32] <sleon> jtc frost site is disappered from sf.net
[17:32] <sleon> 3. Error notes: File does not exist: /home/groups/j/jt/jtcftost/htdocs/
[17:32] <nextgens> works for me
[17:32] <sleon> nextgens: url?
[17:33] <nextgens> are '%' allowed in freenet uris ?
[17:33] <nextgens> http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/
[17:34] <sleon> nextgens: http://sleon.dyndns.org/~sleon/frost-site_down.png
[17:34] <nextgens> I'm not fully happy with my latest commit
[17:35] <nextgens> the feature is neat
[17:35] <nextgens> the implementation isn't smart
[17:35] <sleon> nextgens: what are URLEncoded URIs ?
[17:35] <nextgens> sleon> temporary glitch I guess
[17:36] <earthsound> sleon: you misspelled the URL
[17:36] <earthsound> it's not ftost
[17:36] <nextgens> freenet%3AUSK%40-HLvzn-GqguXrYIyc7xa0vkPUFeN0CM7tI1qRHbuJxM%2C5S54Kx5HTTBMMFZ26zxwnYfwgzw-EE6lWqj5CIOs5rM%2CAQABAAE%2Fflog%2F5%2F for instance
[17:36] <nextgens> insteed of freenet:USK@-HLvzn-GqguXrYIyc7xa0vkPUFeN0CM7tI1qRHbuJxM,5S54Kx5HTTBMMFZ26zxwnYfwgzw-EE6lWqj5CIOs5rM,AQABAAE/flog/5/
[17:37] <nextgens> but I'm not sure my changes won't have side effects
[17:37] <nextgens> it needs to be tested
[17:37] <_ph00> I'm gonna be down for a couple of hours so remember the wise words of the 'duide'
[17:37] <_ph00> "don't panic"
[17:37] <_ph00> seya later
[17:37] <_ph00> (that was 'guide' not "duide")
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[17:41] <sleon> earthsound: jtcforst.sf.net
[17:41] <sleon> ups :D
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[17:41] <sleon> i have had a long night and day today
[17:41] <sleon> :D
[17:41] <earthsound> :)
[17:41] <earthsound> http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/
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[18:04] <tortelinni> hello ppl
[18:04] <sleon> nextgens: why are you encoding it ? ? to mate it harder guess the type of content from uri ?
[18:04] <sleon> tortelinni: hi
[18:04] <tortelinni> sleon: hi
[18:04] <tortelinni> sleon: tell me my page is enable in freenet?
[18:04] <tortelinni> http://localhost:8888/CHK@tCbae0rnuqbZJK~mGdU4~FCup88pK~Shxjul9fLcsyc,Q3ly0LOYqAMlIyqLRQhGDGkvN8uOiphCvSxqMNBjvUY,AAEC--8/komercja-i-freenet.html
[18:05] <tortelinni> i never know what i can put with http or without
[18:05] <tortelinni> CHK@tCbae0rnuqbZJK~mGdU4~FCup88pK~Shxjul9fLcsyc,Q3ly0LOYqAMlIyqLRQhGDGkvN8uOiphCvSxqMNBjvUY,AAEC--8
[18:05] <tortelinni> with filename or not?
[18:06] <sleon> tortelinni: i don't understand what i should do
[18:06] <nextgens> sleon> I'm not, browser do
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[18:07] <nextgens> sleon> btw, are you still working on frost from time to time ?
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[18:07] <tortelinni> sleon: see my web page & tell me do You can see it
[18:07] <tortelinni> sleon: CHK@tCbae0rnuqbZJK~mGdU4~FCup88pK~Shxjul9fLcsyc,Q3ly0LOYqAMlIyqLRQhGDGkvN8uOiphCvSxqMNBjvUY,AAEC--8
[18:07] <tortelinni> witaj testo :)
[18:08] <testo> no witaj
[18:08] <testo> ale tutaj tez privy nie dzialaja
[18:08] <tortelinni> interesuje mnie takie pytanie czy prawda jest , ze osoba posiadajaca plik z freenetu u siebie nie wie co posiada. Dla mnie to jakas straszna niekonsekwencja
[18:08] <tortelinni> i troszke naciagane
[18:08] <testo> prawada
[18:09] <testo> wprawada
[18:09] <testo> nie jestes w stanie sprawdzic co masz u siebie
[18:09] <tortelinni> ale jesli ja mam mozliwosc zobaczenia pliku to mam mozliwosc go odkodowania
[18:09] <tortelinni> proste
[18:09] <testo> nie :)
[18:09] <testo> to nie takie proste
[18:09] <tortelinni> ok Ty nie mozesz dowiedziec sie co ja mam u sebie, ale TY wiesz co masz TY u siebie
[18:09] <testo> nie
[18:10] <testo> w tym cala filozofia tego systemu
[18:10] <tortelinni> to inaczej
[18:10] <testo> nic nie jestes wstanie wiedziac ani skad, ani od kogo
[18:10] <tortelinni> powiedzmy, ze rzad USA zakazuje a polacy sie zgadzaja :) ze nalezy plik taki a taki usunac z dysku
[18:10] <testo> to jeesli chodzi o zewnatrz
[18:10] <tortelinni> podaja jego nazwe i klucz
[18:10] <nextgens> may you move to #freenet-chat please ?
[18:11] <testo> a u sibie nie jestes wstanie zobaczyc co inni udostepniaja
[18:11] <nextgens> or stick to english
[18:11] <testo> ok
[18:11] <testo> chodz na ten chat
[18:11] <tortelinni> nextgens: we talking about freenet :)
[18:11] <testo> bo na skikuja
[18:11] <tortelinni> what freenet working
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[18:16] <tortelinni> I strongholds, around wvery who has files into the cache (my node) knows them content
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[18:19] <_Wicker_MaN_> I need help, I write on the channel ?
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[18:20] <_Wicker_MaN_> hobx nextgens QshelTier sanity sleon I need help, I write on the channel ?
[18:21] <sbc> _Wicker_MaN_: Just ask your question. If people can help you, they will answer.
[18:22] <_Wicker_MaN_> I'm installing freenet now, and in the "downloading required files" step, i got some errors :
[18:22] <_Wicker_MaN_> A system error has occurred.
[18:22] <_Wicker_MaN_> elp, I write on the channel ?
[18:22] <_Wicker_MaN_> <sbc> _Wicker_MaN_: Just ask your question. If people can he
[18:23] <_Wicker_MaN_> System error 1067 has occurred.
[18:23] <_Wicker_MaN_> The process terminated unexpectedly.
[18:23] <_Wicker_MaN_> sbc sorry, ctrl+v error
[18:24] <_Wicker_MaN_> yesterday he not show this error, but freezes in "Downloading freenet-ext.jar"
[18:24] <_Wicker_MaN_> sorry for bad english
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[18:26] <_Wicker_MaN_> this is the fourth time i try to install freenet, and my "add and remove programs" list on windows xp have 4 references for freenet
[18:28] <tortelinni> nextgens: I will be mistake?
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[18:31] <johnwest> hi
[18:31] <johnwest> looking for someone who wants to hep me with a problem connecting to Frost
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[18:37] <sanity> i created a build of current Frost cvs for anyone that is interested : http://locut.us/tmp/frost-cvs-2006-10-15.tar.bz2
[18:39] <johnwest> CIA-14, would you be so kind to try to help me pls
[18:39] <sbc> johnwest: CIA-14 is a bot, can't help you much. Try to describe your problem, and people in here will help you if they can.
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[18:40] <johnwest> ok the problem is this:
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[18:40] <johnwest> could not establish connection to freenode
[18:41] <johnwest> make sure your node is running and freenet is configured correctly
[18:41] <johnwest> that's the message i get when i start frost
[18:42] <johnwest> when i look on fproxy i am connected to 3 peers
[18:43] <johnwest> someone can help me with this pls
[18:43] <sbc> johnwest: Is the node binding to the FCP correct port?
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[18:48] <johnwest> i think so
[18:48] <johnwest> port 46148
[18:49] <johnwest> i am behind a router, maybe the problem is there
[18:50] <johnwest> i have fowarded port 46148 to my ip adress
[18:50] <sanity> johnwest: that isn't the fcp port
[18:50] <sanity> that sounds more like the fnp port
[18:51] <sanity> fnp is the protocol nodes use to talk to each-other, generally it is on a randomly selected port
[18:51] <sanity> fcp is the port clients on your computer use to talk to your node, it is generally on a standard port
[18:51] <tortelinni> sanity: 8888 port?
[18:51] <sanity> tortelinni: no, that is yet another thing, that is the port of the http interface to Freenet, Fproxy
[18:52] <sanity> fcp uses port 8481 by default in Freenet 0.7
[18:52] <sanity> learn more here : http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0
[18:52] <johnwest> what is fcp and fnp?
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[18:53] <johnwest> so i should forwardmy rouer to port 8481 instead of 36148??
[18:54] <_Wicker_MaN_> I'm getting erro during installing
[18:54] <_Wicker_MaN_> System error 1067 has occurred.
[18:54] <_Wicker_MaN_> The process terminated unexpectedly.
[18:54] <_Wicker_MaN_> What is the pre-requisites to installing works ?
[18:55] <_Wicker_MaN_> I have java and IE 6
[19:05] <johnwest> sanity, i am trying to get this thing workin since last friday
[19:09] <johnwest> should i forward my router to fnp port or fcp port?
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[19:21] <johnwest> why can't anyone help me with this??
[19:33] <bokal> hi johnwest
[19:34] <bokal> you shold forward fnp port
[19:34] <bokal> please note that it is udp
[19:35] <bokal> if you look in the bootom of the darknet page, you find "My Reference"
[19:35] <johnwest> ok
[19:35] <bokal> there is a line called physical.udp
[19:35] <bokal> the port is the on after the first ip
[19:36] <johnwest> ok it says 46148 should i forward that on my router?
[19:36] <johnwest> i have a speedtouch router
[19:38] <bokal> yes do that
[19:39] <bokal> if you are having troble try looking at http://portforward.com/
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[20:11] <MineHaunter> now, I think I found a minor bug
[20:11] <MineHaunter> well it's not really a bug, but it's annoying
[20:11] <MineHaunter> I inserted two keys, KSK@foo and KSK@foo?bar
[20:11] <MineHaunter> If you try to fetch KSK@foo?bar using fProxy you get instead KSK@foo
[20:11] <MineHaunter> to fetch KSK@foo?bar you have to request KSK@foo%3Fbar
[20:11] <MineHaunter> maybe the '?' character should be made invalid in key names
[20:12] <MineHaunter> or maybe fProxy should consider the '?' as part of the URI instead of a parameter separator
[20:12] <MineHaunter> one of the two :)
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[21:18] <mrflibble> hi everyone
[21:19] <mrflibble> ne1 use jsite? i have a problem
[21:20] <MineHaunter> please explain your problem
[21:21] <mrflibble> oh, never mind!
[21:21] <mrflibble> it was complaining about a lock file cos windoze crashed
[21:21] <mrflibble> just ran it aggain, and it's loaded, doh
[21:22] <mrflibble> where does it save its settings?
[21:22] <mrflibble> oh, ignore me, it's in my settings dir
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[21:33] <mrflibble> there was a jsite tutorial page in freenet, but i can't find it now, anyone got a link?
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[21:56] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10664 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Thaw now implements a search mechanism
[22:00] <Jflesch> damn
[22:01] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10665 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/plugins/index/SearchResult.java: Fix 1.4 compatibility
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[22:03] <Jflesch> \o/
[22:11] <sbc> mrflibble: It's not on freenet, but did you see http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetJsite ?
[22:14] <CIA-14> jflesch * r10666 /trunk/apps/Thaw/src/thaw/core/PluginManager.java: Reactivate index functionality by default
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[22:15] <Jflesch> sbc: what's the problem ?
[22:16] <Jflesch> oops
[22:16] <sbc> Jflesch: No problem for me, but mrflibble asked about a jsite tutorial. I pointed him to the wiki.
[22:16] <Jflesch> I didn't read correctly, sorry
[22:16] <sbc> Jflesch: It's late here to :) I shouldn't even be here... Night all
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[22:21] <mrflibble> thanks sbc
[22:22] <mrflibble> that will be fine for now, just trying to remember some sites to bookmark
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[22:30] <mrflibble> Your node has too many peers (51 > 50). :(
[22:31] <mrflibble> that';s a bit harsh, only 19 are connected!
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[22:33] <investigator> I saw a message in Frost to the effect that there is a 'big security hole' posted by someone who is spelling challenged. Is there anything to this, or is it some kind of troll?
[22:33] <mrflibble> i read that too investigator
[22:33] <investigator> personally, I think it's just a troll
[22:33] <mrflibble> sounded like a troll 2 me as he didn';t really give any evidence
[22:35] <investigator> the message is titled 'very impotent!'
[22:35] <investigator> LOL
[22:35] <mrflibble> hehe
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[22:45] <_Wicker_MaN_> what is the recommended number of connected nodes i need to have ?
[22:45] <investigator> at least 3, preferably more
[22:45] <mrflibble> <50 according to an error msg i'm getting
[22:45] <_Wicker_MaN_> i have only 3, can I have a good performance whit this number ?
[22:46] <investigator> it's basic
[22:46] <mrflibble> _Wicker_MaN_ you're connected to me, and i've got a ~20 currently connected
[22:46] <mrflibble> this should keep u going for a while till you can find more people to connect to
[22:47] <investigator> mrflibble, want to exchange refs?
[22:47] <_Wicker_MaN_> reccomended settings to be in firefox to use of freenet, where i found ?
[22:48] <_Wicker_MaN_> sorry for my bad english
[22:48] <mrflibble> if you'd like, investigator - http://dark-code.bulix.org/6qjff4-20044?raw
[22:48] <investigator> http://code.bulix.org/gjwu10-19548?raw
[22:48] <investigator> added
[22:49] <mrflibble> hmm, too many nodes = "critical error". seems a bit much to me
[22:49] <investigator> hmm...
[22:49] <mrflibble> i mean, onlt 16 are connected right now
[22:49] <mrflibble> only
[22:49] <investigator> doesn't sound right
[22:50] <investigator> I understood that 30 was about max
[22:50] <mrflibble> Your node has too many peers (52 > 50). This will impact your performance as all peers (connected or not) consume bandwidth and CPU. Consider ?cleaning up? your peer list.
[22:50] <investigator> you mean mine?
[22:50] <mrflibble> no, me
[22:50] <investigator> oic
[22:50] <_Wicker_MaN_> investigator added http://dark-code.bulix.org/ym70yn-20418?raw
[22:51] <investigator> added
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[22:55] <nextgens> MineHaunter> please submit a ticket for it on mantis https://bugs.freenetproject.org
[22:56] <investigator> gotta go
[22:56] <investigator> later
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[22:57] <nextgens> mrflibble> <<50
[22:57] <MineHaunter> nextgens: ok
[23:05] <_Wicker_MaN_> http://dark-code.bulix.org/ym70yn-20418?raw
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