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[6:23] <johnwest> hello to you all
[6:23] <johnwest> i have a connection problem and looking for help
[6:24] <johnwest> with updating to node 991
[6:25] <johnwest> would anyone help me pls
[6:25] <johnwest> i am a 24/7 node so the sooner it works the faster i can ad you
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[6:30] <johnwest> would somebody pls help me with this problem
[6:33] <johnwest> why does noone wanna help?
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[6:35] <_ph00> because no one saw your messages
[6:35] <_ph00> so far
[6:36] <_ph00> what's the problem again?
[6:37] <johnwest> i have to update to the newest node
[6:37] <johnwest> but nothing happens
[6:37] <_ph00> what do you nean the newest node?
[6:38] <_ph00> latest verasion?
[6:38] <_ph00> version
[6:38] <johnwest> node 991
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[6:38] <_ph00> OK, that's build 991
[6:38] <_ph00> the ndoe is always <your nodename> node
[6:38] <_ph00> what version have you now? 990?
[6:39] <johnwest> on fproxy it says he is doi g the final check
[6:39] <johnwest> since 2 days already
[6:39] <johnwest> but nothing happens
[6:39] <_ph00> it's being doing the final check for 2 days?!?
[6:39] <_ph00> k
[6:39] <johnwest> yes
[6:39] <_ph00> what OS are you one?
[6:39] <_ph00> (wndows, right?)
[6:39] <johnwest> yes
[6:39] <_ph00> k
[6:40] <_ph00> run update.cmd
[6:40] <_ph00> should be in your freenet folder?
[6:40] <johnwest> ok
[6:40] <_ph00> what java version you have?
[6:41] <johnwest> update.cmd.sha1 ?
[6:42] <johnwest> wher do i find java?
[6:42] <_ph00> java, on windows...
[6:42] <_ph00> control panel
[6:43] <_ph00> is there any file called update.cmd only? without sha1?
[6:43] <times_> _ph00: what i can change a web page?
[6:43] <johnwest> java 1.5.0 version
[6:43] <times_> _ph00: it is possible?
[6:43] <_ph00> no
[6:43] <johnwest> can't find that file
[6:43] <_ph00> you missed the last 2 digits
[6:44] <_ph00> should be 1.5.0.06 or 07, or 09... but anyways
[6:44] <_ph00> as long as you have 1.5.0 you should be fine
[6:44] <_ph00> weird...
[6:44] <johnwest> ok java 1.5.0_08-b03
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[6:45] <_ph00> maybe your folder settings (options?)
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[6:45] <_ph00> are set to hide something
[6:45] <_ph00> maybe a file called only 'update'?
[6:46] <_ph00> times_ I don't get it
[6:46] <_ph00> what do you mean 'change' a web page?
[6:46] <johnwest> i found a file called update
[6:46] <_ph00> you want to make freenet pages?
[6:46] <_ph00> right
[6:46] <_ph00> must be that
[6:46] <times_> _ph00: why? the key?
[6:47] <times_> _ph00: yes i make a web pages
[6:47] <johnwest> ok
[6:47] <times_> _ph00: but what I can edit/change my start page?
[6:47] <_ph00> you know what? if you go to folder option and uncheck "hide file extension for known file types" your life will get much more easy
[6:49] <johnwest> _ph00, thank you for the help its runing again
[6:49] <times_> _ph00: can You see my web page?
[6:49] <_ph00> edit, change your start page.... the re are some links where you can add stuff, like bookmars etc, but my advice is simply: make a freenet folder in your bookmarks (favorites, whatecver), use the keys to the freesittes you visit in the address line, and then bookmark them just as any other site
[6:50] <times_> _ph00: no , noo bookmark
[6:50] <johnwest> _ph00 i have 1 moe question
[6:50] <_ph00> to make new freesite, you do that in html like regular sites, then you upload them with jsite... I guess. I 've never done that
[6:50] <times_> but CHK@
[6:50] <_ph00> you do http://127.0.0.1:8888/CHK<key>
[6:51] <_ph00> get to the page, and bookmark it
[6:51] <_ph00> to make a new page
[6:51] <_ph00> you make the page in html
[6:51] <johnwest> _ph00 how do i find certain boards and freesites?
[6:51] <_ph00> you use jsite tom upload it, and when it's ready, you get the key
[6:52] <_ph00> johnwest, how did it go? did you update?
[6:52] <_ph00> times_, what you mean if I can see your webpage? Make one, post the key on a frost board and ppl will see it
[6:54] <_ph00> johnwest, use frost. stay subscribed to the "boards" board, once in a while click the globe icon, there you see a list of known boards, which grows with time, each time someone adds a board it gets in your list and you cabn add it
[6:54] <_ph00> you want to subscribe to the 'sites' board too: that's the one where the keys to new sites aer posted
[6:55] <times_> _ph00: yes. I send You a key
[6:55] <times_> You can see it?
[6:55] <_ph00> where?
[6:55] <_ph00> did you private message me?
[6:56] <_ph00> you can't do that if you haven't registered your nick
[6:56] <johnwest> _ph00 yesit works fine again. Thanks for the help
[6:56] <_ph00> k
[6:56] <times_> _ph00: ok
[6:56] <times_> _ph00: CHK@FfD-a7vCmVZsBFTeHeShBY9W3n2JR03LqpsleGHKdQ0,Ux7Teu-huIlXy24AOLIwEhyxYWw34w2a9pD1f43ruG0,AAEC--8/apel-modlitwa1.xhtml
[6:56] <_ph00> so now you kneo, if you have update problems, hit 'update.cmd'
[6:56] <_ph00> or simply update, if you have 'hide extensions' on
[6:58] <times_> _ph00: tell me if You see my web page
[6:58] <_ph00> times_, I got "data notr found"
[6:58] <_ph00> not*
[6:58] <times_> hm...
[6:58] <_ph00> what did you do?
[6:59] <_ph00> did you use jsite?
[6:59] <times_> no
[6:59] <_ph00> do that
[6:59] <times_> web interface
[6:59] <times_> jsite not working on my system
[6:59] <_ph00> make a simple basic webpage, just to test, and use jsite top upload it
[6:59] <_ph00> is not?
[6:59] <_ph00> what system?
[6:59] <_ph00> (not wndows again...)
[7:00] <times_> Linux java 1.4
[7:00] <times_> i make a web page
[7:00] <_ph00> I don't really know anything about jsite, I never used it; all I know is that you're supposed to use it to upload freesites
[7:00] <_ph00> wrong java
[7:00] <times_> and publish trought web interface localhost :8888
[7:01] <_ph00> you need 1.5
[7:01] <_ph00> best would be 1.5.0_09 (slack comes with that)
[7:01] <_ph00> but 1.5.0_06 will do
[7:01] <times_> _ph00: i don't install that version
[7:01] <_ph00> why not?
[7:02] <_ph00> don't say "because it's not free..."
[7:02] <times_> because a free net working in user space, not root
[7:02] <_ph00> ?
[7:02] <times_> _ph00: You added me?
[7:02] <times_> i add You key
[7:02] <_ph00> of course you run freenet as user not root... but maybe I don't understand what you mean
[7:03] <_ph00> what have you added?
[7:03] <_ph00> and where?
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[7:03] <_ph00> and where should I add you?
[7:03] <times_> to Your net freenet
[7:03] <_ph00> I don't know what we're talking about any more
[7:03] <toad_> hi folks
[7:04] <times_> ok, my key is here http://cl1p.net/times
[7:04] <times_> su
[7:04] <johnwest> _ph00 thanks for your help i will go back to the refs page
[7:04] <_ph00> all I know is that you gave me a key and asked me to check if I could see a page, which I couldn't
[7:04] <_ph00> johnwest, np
[7:04] <_ph00> hey batrax
[7:05] <_ph00> times_, that would be an url, most probably to your refs, and no thanks, I have peers enough...
[7:05] <_ph00> go to #freenet-refs, you 'll get lots of peers
[7:06] <_ph00> (batrax is "frog-like" in latin)
[7:06] <toad_> anything gone catastrophically wrong lately? /me is borrowing ian's laptop
[7:06] <_ph00> I was wondering how could that nick switch be explained
[7:07] <_ph00> freenet is working fine for me
[7:08] <_ph00> some people complains about auto-updates not working, but I don't know about that because I never wait for the autothingy
[7:09] <_ph00> but I haven't been around much latesly, I was wrestling with my simulation games (got IL-2 working under wine)
[7:10] <_ph00> and I hope to get flightsim9 working that way too (I need to install directx)
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[7:53] <johnwest> _ph00, question, I can not upload any messages to frost
[7:54] <johnwest> you can help me with that pls?
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[7:54] <_ph00> that takes some time, that's all
[7:55] <johnwest> i get an error that it was not possible to upload my message
[7:55] <_ph00> hit "send", then do something else. You don't see the message right away.
[7:55] <johnwest> and if i wanna try again on satrtup or so
[7:55] <_ph00> that happens sometimes. retry a couple of times, then hit 'retry at next startup'
[7:56] <johnwest> ok
[7:56] <johnwest> and how do i find certain freesites?
[7:57] <times_> hi is here anybody who not add me to your key list?
[7:57] <_ph00> on a board called 'sites'
[7:58] <_ph00> ehat you mean by 'key list'?
[7:58] <_ph00> what*
[7:58] <times_> please tell me the document is seeing in free net:
[7:58] <times_> CHK@AcKsmdxdH1Pnvuow5KX5pWj-yiCtcadGzVE56TtLrd8,kh1-9F3Gn~gs-LGGZNQ1HWYiISGzLmOsHnNneSygNHU,AAEC--8/%22Ankara_niezadowolona?force=235f8f6d5a13c534cf2cd482a417a7bde3cf49ef23e9db0a90930e6174ccd060
[7:58] <times_> sites
[7:58] <times_> ok
[7:58] <_ph00> oh
[7:58] <_ph00> you want people to read your pages?
[7:58] <_ph00> maybe you should write them in english...
[7:58] <_ph00> but anyway
[7:58] <times_> ok
[7:58] <times_> this is test
[7:59] <_ph00> post the keys on the frost board called 'sites'
[7:59] <_ph00> for the real pages
[7:59] <_ph00> for the test page use the 'test' board
[7:59] <times_> but I don't know the people Who dont have me on list sites
[7:59] <_ph00> people dopn "have you" on list sites
[7:59] <times_> see my documents
[8:00] <_ph00> you can be in a list of people, as you are a person, you can't be in a list of sites, because you're not a site
[8:00] <_ph00> if you want people to read your pages, post the keys on frost
[8:00] <_ph00> 'test' board for test pages, and 'sites' board for actual pages
[8:01] <times_> _ph00: ok I see a test sites http://localhost:8888/USK@PFeLTa1si2Ml5sDeUy7eDhPso6TPdmw-2gWfQ4Jg02w,3ocfrqgUMVWA2PeorZx40TW0c-FiIOL-TWKQHoDbVdE,AQABAAE/Index/40/test.html
[8:01] <times_> what I can add my sites?
[8:01] <_ph00> add your sites?
[8:01] <times_> frost
[8:01] <_ph00> you mean "add to your sites"?
[8:01] <_ph00> ahhh
[8:01] <_ph00> you make a new boad called 'sites'
[8:02] <_ph00> even better, see if you find a 'sites' board on your boards list (click the globe icon)
[8:02] <_ph00> then right-click and do 'add board'
[8:03] <_ph00> then, on the 'sites' board, post a message with a couple of lines about your site, and the kwy
[8:03] <_ph00> for test page, no need to explain anything, just say "test" and add the key, on 'test' board
[8:03] <times_> slowly I dowload fros t :)
[8:04] <_ph00> yes
[8:04] <_ph00> freenet is slow
[8:04] <_ph00> that's the price you pay for ebing anonymous.
[8:04] <_ph00> but it's getting better
[8:04] <_ph00> ebing?
[8:04] <_ph00> being*
[8:07] <times_> meybe
[8:08] <times_> what about Entropy project?
[8:08] <times_> http://entropy.stop1984.com/
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[8:12] <times_> frost working but what working?
[8:12] <times_> what I can know where is new information
[8:46] <times_> frost working quicly
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[10:24] <johnwest> -ph00: how come i do not get any new messages in frost all morning?
[10:25] <johnwest> all the board r keeping the same number of articles/messages
[10:27] <nextgens> try refreshing the freenet boarf
[10:27] <nextgens> try refreshing the freenet board
[10:31] <johnwest> nothing happens. i right click and click on refresh board right?
[10:31] <nextgens> yes
[10:31] <johnwest> nothing happens. I ahve all morning 90 messages that i ca read but
[10:32] <johnwest> it stays on 90 messages
[10:32] <johnwest> haven't read anything yet
[10:32] <nextgens> hmm
[10:32] <nextgens> here I've got the cvs version of frost; and I dunno how to count messages with it
[10:33] <johnwest> oh it just says ( 90 )behind freenet and that's the same number all day
[10:34] <johnwest> behind boards it says ( 40 ) and that hasn't change all day either
[10:35] <johnwest> don't know what to do
[10:36] <johnwest> _ph00 or nextgens, can you help me with this problem
[10:45] <nextgens> sorry, I dunno what's going on
[10:45] <johnwest> ok
[10:46] <johnwest> any idea what it could be?
[10:46] <nextgens> have you tried restarting frost and the node ?
[10:48] <sbc> johnwest: When is the latest message from? What index is it at?
[10:48] <nextgens> sleon> the current cvs version of frost doesn't compile
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[10:57] <johnwest> i tried with restarting frost and node
[10:58] <johnwest> because i had to update to node 991
[10:58] <johnwest> but it did not work
[10:59] <johnwest> the oldest message in freenet-refs dates from october 2nd
[10:59] <johnwest> that doesn't seemcorrect right?
[11:01] <sbc> johnwest: No. I have messages from today in that board...
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[11:01] <johnwest> so how do i fix that
[11:02] <sbc> johnwest: Start checking the basics? Are you connected to the network? Is your node running? Stuff like that?
[11:03] <johnwest> i am connected to 5 peers ( 3 connected and 2 busy )
[11:03] <johnwest> so my node should be running i think
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[11:50] <johnwest> when i start frost it says to make sure my node is running. But it is running
[11:51] <johnwest> why can't i not get any new messages?
[11:56] <sbc> johnwest: I think a frost warning like that indicates that frost can't connect to your node. Are you using any non standard ports, or some ssh port forwarding that might be the cause of trouble?
[11:57] <CIA-14> nextgens * r10661 /trunk/freenet/src/freenet/clients/http/DarknetConnectionsToadlet.java:
[11:57] <CIA-14> Small hack on fproxy to deny node removal if there isn't one week of inactivity.
[11:57] <CIA-14> Maybe it should be done in Node.removeDarknetConnection insteed.
[11:59] <johnwest> it worked fine untill yesterday
[12:00] <johnwest> this morning i updated to node 991 and now it is not working
[12:00] <johnwest> cia-14 i have no idea what you r talking about
[12:00] <johnwest> i am a newbie
[12:02] <nextgens> CIA-14 is a bot
[12:08] <johnwest> ok but how can i solve this irritating problem?
[12:11] <nextgens> I don't know what your problem is :$
[12:11] <nextgens> and I'm not a frost expert
[12:11] <nextgens> if freesite browsing works, I doubt it's a freenet problem
[12:11] <nextgens> have you installed a firewall/something recently ?
[12:15] <johnwest> no i am behind a router but it worked fine untill this morning
[12:15] <johnwest> after updating to node 991
[12:15] <nextgens> well, I'm running 991 and here frost works :)
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[12:17] <johnwest> it is driving me nuts
[12:19] <johnwest> dunno what to do with it
[12:19] <nextgens> try rebooting/reinstalling frost
[12:19] <johnwest> ok
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[13:13] <mrflibble> hi everyone
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[13:25] <sbc> hi mrflibble
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[14:11] <mrflibble> just sttarted playing with 0.7
[14:12] <mrflibble> what determins whether a key is "cached" or "stored"? atm i've got 1gb cached and 18mb stored
[14:14] <Dynode> What do I need to do in order to use DynDns service in my reference ? My node doesn't like it when I replace my physical.udp=IPNUMBER line to point at a dns name
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[14:15] <mrflibble> lol
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[14:25] <Dynode> I need to get my DynDns hostname to show in my reference but i dont know how to modify the ref so that it will work.
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[14:30] <mrflibble> ooh, frost on 0.7 is a lot quicker
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[14:57] <nextgens> tell Dynode that he is looking for ipAddressOverride
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[14:58] <nextgens> the fridge is empty :<
[15:00] <nextgens> mrflibble> what about fproxy, don't you think it's quicker as well ?
[15:08] <mrflibble> not sure really!
[15:08] <mrflibble> only got about 15connections so maybe that's why
[15:08] <nextgens> more connections won't help
[15:09] <mrflibble> oh
[15:09] <mrflibble> well no, then, i don't think it's any quicker
[15:10] <mrflibble> i'm just going through each page of the angela devi porn (for speed testing purposes only, of course)
[15:10] <mrflibble> and they're taking quite a long time to load
[15:10] <mrflibble> sometimes a refresh is needed
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[15:37] <yallla> trying to install I get ******************** File menucheck.png not found. Exiting
[15:37] <yallla> whys that? (on linux )
[15:38] <nextgens> no idea
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[15:43] <yallla> is this the right place to get help with install problems
[15:44] <nextgens> yes
[15:44] * nextgens wrote the installer
[15:44] <nextgens> but I've never seen your error
[15:45] <nextgens> try re-downloading it
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[15:45] <nextgens> wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/installer/new_installer.jar
[15:45] <nextgens> java -jar new_installer.jar
[15:45] <yallla> hmm, it's a fresh install on a freshly install mandriva
[15:45] <sleon> sf is down again??
[15:45] <nextgens> what's the output of "java --version" ?
[15:45] <yallla> right, that is what I'm doing. After second line I get the error
[15:45] <nextgens> sleon> yep, the website is down :/
[15:46] <yallla> 1.4.2
[15:46] <sleon> second time in one week
[15:47] <sleon> this ain't good
[15:47] <nextgens> yallla> paste the full ouptup please
[15:47] <nextgens> output
[15:47] <yallla> java version "1.4.2"
[15:47] <yallla> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.1 (4.0.1-5mdk for Mandriva Linux release 2006.0)
[15:47] <yallla> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[15:47] <yallla> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
[15:47] <yallla> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[15:48] <yallla> ops, sorry :-|
[15:48] <nextgens> ok, that's gnu's jre
[15:48] <nextgens> get sun's one
[15:48] <yallla> right! thanks
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[15:49] <nextgens> http://java.com/java/download/index.jsp
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[15:50] <sanity_> crap, why is the site down?
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[15:51] <nextgens> sanity> it's SF's fault
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[15:51] <nextgens> sanity_> it's SF's fault
[15:51] <nextgens> not much we can do against that, except moving it to emu
[15:51] <sanity> hmmm
[15:52] <sanity> the website is basically our only remaining dependency on sf
[15:52] <nextgens> and the only part sucking on a regular basis ;)
[15:55] <sanity> yup
[15:56] <sanity> only issue is whether emu would survive a slashdotting
[15:56] <sanity> ok, better go
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[16:00] <nextgens> yay, yetAnotherNPE
[16:01] <nextgens> hmm
[16:01] <nextgens> it has been fixed in the trunk
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[16:14] <sanity> nextgens: toad and i are @ google
[16:15] <nextgens> ah cool :)
[16:15] <nextgens> and what are you doing there ?
[16:16] <nextgens> attending to a talkshow ?
[16:17] <sandos> @ google?
[16:17] <sandos> hmm ;)
[16:18] <TheSeeker> part of me wants google to run some ubernodes, but the rest of me fears their ability to analyze data and fold to governments :P
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[16:18] <sandos> google is all about centralisation... :)
[16:19] <TheSeeker> I doubt that google would mind having an external store for obscure data... :P
[16:21] * nextgens will try to go to their office in london
[16:21] <nextgens> I've seen they are organizing a meeting for SoC students there
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[16:25] <TheSeeker> I had an upload at 100% of blocks inserted when I went to bed last night... it's still at 100% this morning, and hasn't finished :P
[16:27] <sleon> TheSeeker: roflol
[16:28] <nextgens> sanity> I haven't received any news from google regarding my application for an internship yet :|
[16:29] * nextgens gtg
[16:29] <nextgens> bbiab
[16:29] <TheSeeker> Fuqid is showing ~100% 8290/8290 [8290] in the progress column, and fpoxy is simply showing 100% :P
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[17:58] <anonymouse> _ph00: my new java is working out great
[17:59] <_ph00> cool
[17:59] * anonymouse moves the mouse around in real time =P
[17:59] <_ph00> now, time to dump it all and sitch to some serious OS
[18:00] <_ph00> switch
[18:00] <anonymouse> "time"
[18:00] <anonymouse> is the problem
[18:00] <anonymouse> i don't hate windows enough to make it a priority to switch
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[18:07] <_ph00> I don't hate windows either. it *was* a fairly good OS, before XP
[18:07] <_ph00> what I hate is MS marketing policy of forcing ppl to win
[18:08] <_ph00> I installed a windows partition yesterday: win 98.
[18:08] <_ph00> for gaming etc.
[18:09] <_ph00> works great. I got microsucks flightsim2004 and il-2 working fine on 1600MhZ, 512 RAM, 64 video RAm
[18:09] <_ph00> (overclock 2000)
[18:09] <_ph00> I used to get "slide shows" on xp, but not on 98
[18:09] <_ph00> </ot>
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[18:23] <bagpuss> Can I share my old Freenet 0.5 datastore on Freenet 0.7, or do they use different formats?
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[18:36] <_ph00> no
[18:36] <_ph00> and yes
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[19:34] <tigotigor> hi guys, I'm trying to uninstall freenet 0.7 on my computer but when I press uninstall, nothing happens! is this a known problem? what should I do?
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[19:58] <mrflibble> tigotigor - i had that problem
[19:59] <_ph00> is that on windows?
[19:59] <mrflibble> i had to uninstall it manually and then used the web installer instead
[19:59] <mrflibble> for me, yes
[19:59] <mrflibble> also, check you've got java 1.5, i think that was my problem (i had 1.4 installed when i first tried installing 0.7)
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[20:00] <_ph00> you did unsinstall it eventually , right? I mean tigotigo
[20:00] <_ph00> and yes, having java 1.5 is important
[20:00] <_ph00> (using linux is also good)
[20:00] <nextgens> mrflibble> you've already uninstalled .7 ?
[20:01] <mrflibble> no, before it got it working, nextgens
[20:01] <mrflibble> no, before i got it working, nextgens
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[20:01] <mrflibble> it would be handy if the installer checked what v of java it was using
[20:02] <_ph00> you can check by yourself beforeee using the installer....
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[20:02] <mrflibble> of course, but i didnt see any intructions mandating what v of java it needed
[20:02] <_ph00> (hm? befroeeee? my keyboard is a bit too sensitive)
[20:02] <mrflibble> :)
[20:03] <_ph00> right.
[20:03] <mrflibble> my keyboard is giving out
[20:03] <mrflibble> space bar, g and t repeat too often
[20:03] <tigotigor> well I got 1.5, but how to uninstall it manually?
[20:03] <mrflibble> oh well, at least it hasn't got a windoze key on it
[20:03] <mrflibble> tigotigor - on windows?
[20:04] <tigotigor> yeah
[20:04] <_ph00> you heard that, devs? who takes care of the webpage, etc? a line in the instructions suggesting to check what java you have before installing, would be fine.
[20:04] <_ph00> tigo: why you need to uninstall?
[20:04] <mrflibble> check in the services list to see if there's a freenet service (mine never got installed the first time i tried)
[20:05] <tigotigor> cause I got a java.exe process that eats up memory
[20:05] <mrflibble> how much ememory u got?
[20:05] <tigotigor> and I suspect it's because freenet runs in the background
[20:05] <tigotigor> um, 1 gb ram I guess
[20:05] <_ph00> anyways, the problem could be that it was still running when you tried to uninstall
[20:05] <tigotigor> how to shut it down then?
[20:06] <mrflibble> 1gb should be fine, i'm running 2 freenets in that amount
[20:06] <_ph00> a java process eating memory? just stop freenet and see if it is the problem, why uninstall?
[20:06] <tigotigor> because I got freenet closed, but somehow it gotta be on
[20:06] <_ph00> I'm running freenet on 512 MB ram, and I still have some ram left to use the OC
[20:06] <_ph00> (linux)
[20:06] <_ph00> PC*
[20:07] <tigotigor> my antivirus keep on scanning (norton) freenet files... so it gotta be on
[20:07] <_ph00> are you *sure* it's down? or have you just shut the browser down?
[20:07] <mrflibble> hehe
[20:07] <_ph00> norton sucks
[20:07] <mrflibble> tigotigor - freenet runs in the background as a service
[20:07] <_ph00> better not using any antivirus...
[20:07] <mrflibble> im with u there _ph00
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[20:07] <tigotigor> okey, how to shut it down then?
[20:07] <mrflibble> yeah, it'd never find anything anyway. just exclude the dirs from the virus killer
[20:07] <tigotigor> well norton came with the computer... what do you use instead?
[20:08] <_ph00> OK this is way too OT, I'll post my "antivirus" technique on #freenet-chat
[20:08] <tigotigor> okey, but still, if I want to uninstall freenet manually, how do I do it?
[20:08] <tigotigor> or how to close the service?
[20:08] <_ph00> fire up your browser and goto the fproxy page
[20:09] <_ph00> if that works, freenet is still up
[20:09] <mrflibble> control panel->admin tools->services
[20:09] <mrflibble> find the freenet service and click stop
[20:10] <tigotigor> mkay
[20:10] <mrflibble> my freenet 0.7 is only using ~120mb, but then i've only been using it about 3 days
[20:10] <tigotigor> yeah there it is
[20:10] <_ph00> you can kill the service using task manager
[20:11] <_ph00> ok, try cicking "styop freenet"
[20:11] <_ph00> stop*
[20:11] <_ph00> in the home fproxy page
[20:11] <mrflibble> oh yeah :)
[20:11] <_ph00> I don't know how the wiondows command line goes
[20:11] <mrflibble> that would be the easy way _ph00......
[20:11] <tigotigor> oki
[20:13] <_ph00> you wanna know something easy: here's my "antivirus". I install windows in a small dedicated partition, and use another partition to store data in it, the OS sees that as two separate harddisks. Then I don't use any antivirus or software firewall, only a NAT router and spybot SD
[20:13] <tigotigor> it seems to be down now, but the uninstaller doesn't work anyway
[20:13] <tigotigor> _ph00, well I've been meaning to do that for some time now... it's always seemed like a very nice thing to do...
[20:14] <_ph00> now the viruses always target C: so id I get a nasty vireus or something, all I do is reformatting the win partition and reinstall it: all my data is still on D: (but I can do that because I only use win for gaming,and not even much)
[20:14] <_ph00> (end of the OT)
[20:14] <_ph00> is it down?
[20:15] <tigotigor> yeah, but the uninstaller doesn't work anyway
[20:15] <mrflibble> hmm, maybe _ph00 so long as none of your friends use your machine
[20:15] <_ph00> OK, now all you have to do is manually delete all the files, then use regseeker to clean the registry
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[20:15] <tigotigor> okey
[20:15] <_ph00> mrflibble, what's the problem with friends using the machine? windows works as usual
[20:16] <_ph00> and anyways, I'm on linux for 98% of the time
[20:16] <_ph00> btw, I use win98 for gaming, not xp. 98 eats up way less resources, so I can gety fairly good FPS and stuff on my old crappy machine
[20:17] <_ph00> (I won't be talking more about that, if you want to hear more, join #fdreenet-chat)
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[20:19] <mrflibble> because eventually some ttwat will try and use IE instead of firefox and get u infected with something
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[20:21] <_ph00> I don't have IE
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[20:21] <tigotigor> firefox ain't flawless either though...
[20:21] <_ph00> and anyways, windows is for gaming only. web surfing is on linux
[20:22] <_ph00> opera is good
[20:22] <_ph00> but I use ff because I like being able to add functionality using extension
[20:24] <_ph00> ff is heavier and slower than opera. but it can be tewaked a bit using about:config ancd chengisng some metwork settings (why can't I keep myself from going OT?)
[20:24] <tigotigor> how do I use regseeker _ph00?
[20:25] <_ph00> download (duh) then unzip it to Program Files, go to ...\program files\RegSeeker and run Regseeker.exe
[20:25] <_ph00> (make a shortcut to your start menu if you want)
[20:25] <_ph00> then click 'clean the registry'
[20:26] <tigotigor> okay
[20:26] <tigotigor> but I should delete all the freenet files first I guess?
[20:26] <_ph00> when it's done searching, do 'select all' ( a button) then right click on the selected stuff and do 'delete'
[20:26] <_ph00> yes
[20:27] <_ph00> delet freenet files first, then empty the recyclebin
[20:27] <_ph00> you may want to use ccleaner
[20:28] <_ph00> a trash cleaning utility. it adds an entry to your recycle bin right-click menu, so you open it from there, then hit 'run' and it cleans the filesystem of useless stuff
[20:29] <tigotigor> okay great, thnx for the help
[20:30] <_ph00> you can also use that to easily keep under control your startup apps: windows tends to accumulate startup stuff, which makes starting very slow; if you idelete those useless entries and onl?y keep the needed ones (like 3 or 4) windows will start much faster, and you 'll have some more resources because less apps will be rinning in the background
[20:30] <_ph00> spybot search and destroy is also good
[20:30] <_ph00> and now
[20:30] <_ph00> enough
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[20:30] <_ph00> we've done enough OT
[20:31] <tigotigor> =)
[20:32] <_ph00> for OT questions (like OS stuff, etc, ask on #freenet-chat, I'm in there most of the time)
[20:32] <tigotigor> ah okey
[20:32] * _ph00 goes get some food
[20:32] <_ph00> hmm...
[20:33] <_ph00> one sandwich and some 4-5 beers will do fine
[20:33] <_ph00> bbl
[20:33] <tigotigor> hehe okey
[20:34] <tigotigor> that's pretty much what kind of applications that a man needs during start-up
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[23:21] <asdqwerty> hi. can anzone tell me how can i get some references?
[23:22] <Jflesch> asdqwerty: you should ask on #freenet-refs
[23:22] <asdqwerty> aha ok thanks :)
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[23:45] <jax> hi. i managed to set up my references. i wonder how does the search works? where do you enter the keyword? (mybe i sound noobish but i prefer asking instead of trying :) )
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