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[1:07] <Carradine> Hey!
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[18:08] <mike1400> hello
[18:10] <mike1400> I'm trying to start freenet, but when I run it, I just get: /etc/init.d/freenet start
[18:10] <mike1400> * Starting Freenet now ... [ !! ]
[18:10] <greycat> oh please, please don't tell me you used a .deb packag.e
[18:10] <mike1400> no
[18:10] <mike1400> I'm running Gentoo
[18:10] <mike1400> I emerged it from the portage tree
[18:10] <greycat> OK. I know nothing about the Gentoo packaging of Freenet.
[18:10] <mike1400> oh...
[18:11] <Sugadude> Probably as old as the .deb package...
[18:11] <mike1400> I updated it once I'd merged it
[18:12] <mike1400> Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache
[18:12] <mike1400> * Congratulations on merging freenet, please run
[18:12] <mike1400> * # ebuild /usr/portage/net-p2p/freenet/freenet-0.5.2.1-r8.ebuild config
[18:12] <mike1400> * to update freenet to the latest jars and seednodes.
[18:12] <mike1400> * This step is also necessary to configure freenet for
[18:12] <mike1400> * first use. You may also run this step again at any time
[18:12] <mike1400> * to get any updates available to freenet
[18:12] <mike1400> * Anyone who merged a freenet prior to 0.5.2.1-r3 will
[18:12] <mike1400> * need to change their logFile setting to /var/freenet/freenet.log
[18:12] <mike1400> * in order for freenet to continue to function
[18:12] <greycat> well, if it doesn't work, then we suggest you just try the tarballs straight from the upstream source (freenetproject.org/snapshots/ or whatever it is)
[18:12] <mike1400> k
[18:12] <mike1400> thanks
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[18:31] <mike1400> ah! it's working, albeit rather slowly
[18:32] <Sugadude> It should(????) improve after a while.
[18:32] <mike1400> k
[18:41] <Prototyp1X29A> its a big while :)
[18:43] <Sugadude> lim(t->inf) ;)
[18:51] <mike1400> does anyone here know anything about frost (the p2p app that works on top of freenet) because I can't get that working now...
[18:51] <mike1400> ?
[18:55] <Sugadude> What's the problem?
[18:56] <mike1400> sh frost.sh
[18:56] <mike1400> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: frost/Frost (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)
[18:56] <mike1400> I have no idea what any of that means
[18:58] <Sugadude> Frost has two versions, one for Java 1.4.x and one for 1.5.x (AKA Java 5), make sure you downloaded the correct version for your Java version.
[19:00] <greycat> write once, run anywhere! well, almost anywhere... well, if the user has the right version...
[19:01] <mike1400> lol
[19:01] <Sugadude> greycat: Java 1.5 is quite differenet from 1.4, for the worse, if you ask me.
[19:03] <mike1400> it's working now, I just assumed (wrongly) that I'd have the latest version of java for some reason
[19:03] <mike1400> and why is it worse?
[19:04] <hobx_> they added syntactic sugar which destroys the conceptual clarity of the language.
[19:04] <greycat> that wouldn't affect running the bytecode, though, so there must be more...
[19:05] * mike1400 wishes he understood anything of what hobx_ and greycat said
[19:05] <mike1400> lol
[19:07] <Sugadude> I think it's worse because they call it 'Java 5' instead of Java 1.5
[19:07] <Sugadude> (And what hobx_ said, too)
[19:07] <greycat> well, that's just Sun's way. same thing with Solaris 7, err 2.7, err 5.7.
[19:10] <Sugadude> I thought the Solaris version thing was because SunOS was just the kernel, whereas Solaris is the OS.
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[19:11] <Sugadude> (Like Linux v2.6.x vs. Mandriva 10.2)
[19:11] <greycat> Linux is the only thing in the universe in which the kernel has a separate version number from its operating system
[19:12] <Sugadude> So does Solaris. Solaris 10 uses 5.x kernel, IIRC.
[19:13] <Sugadude> Anyway, Sun suxs and Microsoft r00lez yo! <duck />
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[19:16] <mike1400> right, why is there nothing in the 'newbie help' board of frost?
[19:16] <rah> because nobody has sent any posts?
[19:17] <greycat> maybe they're all waiting for you?
[19:17] <greycat> or if this is your brand new node, maybe you haven't found them yet
[19:19] <greycat> a new node takes a while to learn the network
[19:19] <rah> what's the largest datastore size that fred is known to cope with?
[19:19] <mike1400> some of the other boards seem empty
[19:19] <rah> I have a very large store; currently ~80GB
[19:19] <rah> and fred seems to be having troubles
[19:23] <mike1400> so new messages might appear in time?
[19:25] <Sugadude> mike1400: Yes, just leave it overnight.
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