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[11:36] <nextgens> ok, perfect :)
[11:37] <nextgens> It's not self loading at bootup though :/
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[11:38] <nextgens> I will migrate old logs there... assuming they haven't been altered :|
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[4:35] <linyos> since when does open source == aryan master race...
[4:36] * linyos is inspired to write a video game on this theme.
[4:36] <Elly> [21:13:29] <linyos> wow, even stupid primitive brown people
[4:37] <linyos> that's the clear implication.
[4:38] <Elly> oh, you were pointing out an implication instead of making one
[4:38] <Elly> point withdrawn.
[4:38] <linyos> i mean, why would computer nerds in pakistan be any less likely to pass microsoft's exams than computer nerds anywhere else?
[4:38] <linyos> obviously, because pakistanis are genetically inferior brown people, it must be....
[4:39] <Elly> uhh...english as a non-primary language?
[4:40] <linyos> then why not say "Windows is so easy to administer that even kids who don't speak English can pass MCSE exams."
[4:40] <linyos> it clearly equates being pakistani with being unlikely to pass exams.
[4:41] <linyos> (unless they are easy microsoft exams)
[4:42] <linyos> i bet if that were published in the popular press, the writer would have had his balls broken in public over it.
[4:46] * Elly shrugs
[4:46] <Elly> I think the POINT is that it's 'kids'
[4:47] <linyos> i agree, he probably put in the 'in pakistan' part because of a subconscious bias.
[4:47] <linyos> i mean: would 'in japan' have quite the same effect?
[4:48] <linyos> no, because japanese kids are supposed to be smart.
[4:51] <linyos> the point is that the ethnicity of the kids is beside the point, unless you're preaching racial inferiority.
[5:05] <Elly> I bet you he's making reference to pakistan having the youngest-ever MSCE certified guy
[5:11] <linyos> "Windows is so easy to administer that Foo Bar, a eight-year-old boy from northwest Pakistan, has passed Microsoft's MCSE exams."
[5:11] <linyos> i would not object to that, he is simply describing the boy.
[5:12] <linyos> but the point of his real sentence is to come up with a "very incompetent group", and the group he chooses is "pakistani kids"
[5:14] <linyos> you'd not choose that unless you were appealing to a subconscious western bias against south asians.
[5:20] <linyos> sort of like if hitler said to some drunk nazi, "stop dancing like a primitive african tribesman". you can bet he is not merely describing the ethnicity of the tribesman---he is using the tribesman's ethnicity as evidence against him, ie that the dancing must be very vulgar if an african, in particular, would do it.
[5:20] <linyos> just like microsoft's exam must be very easy if a pakistani, in particular, can pass it.
[5:21] <linyos> just like hitler's intentions are plain in his culture of nazi racial supremacy, the intentions of this writer are plain in our culture of prejudice against south asians
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[12:36] <nextgens> ok, perfect :)
[12:37] <nextgens> It's not self loading at bootup though :/
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[12:38] <nextgens> I will migrate old logs there... assuming they haven't been altered :|
[11:51] <nextgens> erf :-S
[11:51] <nextgens> logbots weren't on time :(
[11:59] <TheSeeker> you mean, not time stamped?
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[12:30] <nextgens> no, they were, but badly according to my own clients logs
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[14:47] <linyos> http://indymedia.nl/nl/2005/11/31455.shtml
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