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[4:41] <Agent_Jesus> bwa!
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[5:19] <nextgens> hi
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[10:15] <tessier> Hello all
[10:15] <tessier> I see that freenet is still trucking along...
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[10:55] <toad_> heya folks
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[11:04] <toad_> hi linyos
[11:09] <linyos> hello.
[11:09] <linyos> hey, you know anything about electronics?
[11:09] <linyos> like the basics.
[11:10] <toad_> only the very basics :)
[11:11] <linyos> i'm having fun trying to design a simple circuit.
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[11:11] <TheBishop_> yepp, electronics here :)
[11:12] <linyos> TheBishop_: oh, great. maybe you can tell me how to do this.
[11:12] <TheBishop_> what do you mean?
[11:13] * linyos tries to explain this clearly.
[11:14] <TheBishop_> ok, maybe by dcc-chat?
[11:14] <linyos> i've got two sets of recessed lights in my parents house. one is for the kitchen and one is for the hallway.
[11:14] <linyos> there's a light near the entrance to the kitchen. i want this light to turn on when either of the two switches is turned on.
[11:15] <linyos> so i figured i'd run both switched wires to this light.
[11:16] <linyos> but i can't just connect them both to the light, because then it would bridge the two circuits so that all the lights would go on from either switch.
[11:16] <TheBishop_> sounds like you need two relais on the two circuits to turn on the third set of lights
[11:17] <TheBishop_> because of AC current the diode-trick won't do
[11:17] <linyos> yeah, i first thought of a diode, but then i realized that it was AC....
[11:18] <TheBishop_> either of the relais should turn power to the third circuit
[11:18] <linyos> TheBishop_: you have a part number for such a relay?
[11:19] <TheBishop_> um, no. in germany, relais which are operated by 110/220V have another name than relais for 6/12V
[11:20] <linyos> ok. i'll look around.
[11:20] <TheBishop_> look for 110/220V relais at your local store/distributor
[11:22] <linyos> my other idea was to use two diodes (one on each switched wire). that would cut off half of the AC waveform, so i guess i'd have to put in capacitor so the light bulb would get enough power...
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[11:22] <linyos> but i will check out relays.
[11:33] <TheBishop_> the diode thing would give 50% of power through, a capacitor wouldN
[11:34] <TheBishop_> s/N/n't work/
[11:34] <TheBishop_> and diodes make problems with tubes
[11:35] <TheBishop_> normally they just blow off (because of the inductors)
[11:36] <TheBishop_> eh, coils
[11:36] <linyos> do incandescent lights care about the waveform you feed them?
[11:36] <linyos> oh well, relays it is.
[11:37] <TheBishop_> incandescent?
[11:37] <linyos> ordinary light bulbs with a white-hot glowing filament in a vacuum, et.c
[11:37] <linyos> (as opposed to fluorescent lights.)
[11:38] <TheBishop_> ah, no, they only have a neglible amount of inductance
[11:38] <TheBishop_> no problem for a diode
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[12:50] <toad_> hmmmmmmm
[12:50] <toad_> what's a reasonable size limit for files inside a zip manifest?
[12:58] <hobx_> What does the zip file impose?
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[13:01] <toad_> it doesn't afaik
[13:01] <toad_> you mean what cost does it impose on us?
[13:01] <toad_> well, we cache them
[13:01] <hobx_> no, I meant what size limits do zip files have
[13:01] <hobx_> it would surprise me if they don't have some limit
[13:01] <toad_> none that i know of
[13:02] <toad_> if they have a practical limit it's humongous
[13:07] <toad_> i doubt that the cost of reading from disk and decrypting (symmetric) will be greater than the cost of unzipping... but even if it is, this architecture lets us have .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2 perhaps) archives as well as .zip ones, where it's a clear gain
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[13:44] <NullAcht15> It seems that, after upgrading to build 5106, I cannot insert large splitfiles using freenet.client.cli.Main anymore
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[18:07] <toad_> [18:47] <NullAcht15> It seems that, after upgrading to build 5106, I cannot insert large splitfiles using freenet.client.cli.Main anymore
[18:07] <toad_> what happens when you try?
[18:33] <NullAcht15> It fails whil while trying to encode the first segment
[18:34] <NullAcht15> but right now I want to go to bed. I'm tired
[18:34] <NullAcht15> night
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