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[9:58] <nextgens_> hi
[10:15] <nextgens_> sanity: here ?
[10:16] * nextgens_ is wondering if 'other lists'(non freenet-related) should be public and shared too
[10:20] <nextgens_> archives are now aviable
[10:37] <nextgens_> https://emu.freenetproject.org
[10:42] <nextgens_> toad_: servalan is down :'(
[10:42] <nextgens_> I can't populate archives :|
[10:43] <nextgens_> I finish the post-commit thing and then will write a small searchengine
[10:48] <nextgens_> toad_: please validate your mantis account at bugs.freenetproject.org so that we can allow user self-registration
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[11:59] <nextgens> toad_: here ?
[12:32] <nextgens> toad_: here ?
[12:33] <nextgens> toad_: I need your opinion on 'how and when' to build snapshoots
[12:34] <nextgens> what will the tags directory look like ?
[12:34] <nextgens> I've done a small script in ~svn-data/bin wich is launched every 10 mins
[13:06] <sandos> you need websvn ;)
[13:08] <sanity> hi all
[13:08] <nextgens> sanity: hi
[13:08] <nextgens> sandos: ?
[13:08] <nextgens> it's just used to browse the repository a la CVS, isn't it ?
[13:09] <sandos> well, not really
[13:10] <sandos> if youre using svn, then using websvn is much nicer compared to viewcvs
[13:10] <sandos> imo
[13:13] <nextgens> sanity: your point ? is it usefull ?
[13:14] * nextgens is using the svn command tool :P
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[13:17] <nextgens> the SVN website/updating tool is now working properly :)
[13:19] <nextgens> the snapshoot tool is still work in progress but I need to talk to toad_ to achieve it
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[13:21] <nextgens> sanity: they are several things in the Sf's project directory wich aren't in the SVN yet ... should we do some cleanup ?
[13:21] <danderson> sandos: it is?
[13:21] <nextgens> kronfol_final_thesis.pdf, the wiki, ...
[13:21] <danderson> wow, must have evolved nicely then
[13:21] <danderson> at one point viewcvs was really much better
[13:22] <danderson> anyhow, that doesn't matter, because trac rocks them all by a long way ;)
[13:22] <sanity> nextgens: do we really want the wiki in subversion?
[13:22] <sanity> i mean, the thesis - yes
[13:22] <danderson> nextgens: if you want to put the wiki in subversion, you should check out SubWiki.
[13:22] <danderson> a wiki engine that's geared to using svn as storage.
[13:23] * nextgens is putting the thesis in SVN
[13:25] <nextgens> into
[13:26] <nextgens> sanity: should your slides be there too ?
[13:26] <nextgens> the ss directory
[13:27] <sanity> nah, they are old
[13:27] <sanity> i would just tar them up and put them in the parent directory, or somewhere safe
[13:27] <nextgens> ok
[13:30] <nextgens> ok, so, it remains the snapshoot and the "seedfile" problem
[13:32] * nextgens will have a look at subwiki ... but even, as we are using a mysql database ATM, wiki's page are quite static :/
[13:36] <nextgens> danderson: do you have any opinion on "how should we manage the tag directory in svn" ?
[13:37] <nextgens> usually, we are creating snapshoots of the old cvs HEAD and calling them "versions"
[13:37] <danderson> well, two things you need to consider
[13:37] <nextgens> as the network needs up-to-date nodes to perform well, it's not an issue
[13:38] <nextgens> but with svn, I'm not sure we should copy a new 'branch' each time
[13:38] <danderson> if you intend on keeping as "release policy" that "when we find something nice, we push a release out the door"
[13:38] <danderson> then you can completely dispense with tags
[13:38] <danderson> well, depends
[13:38] <danderson> if you want to stick to your old numbering, then you'll need tags to keep track.
[13:39] <danderson> if you're willing to changes that, you can just use the svn revision as release number
[13:39] <danderson> the downside is that you won't have release numbers increasing by +1 each time.
[13:39] <danderson> nextgens: what is the problem with tagging a release each time?
[13:40] <nextgens> and that we are using it in the code to ensure nodes can connect together
[13:40] <nextgens> it will become a pain to find the latest one
[13:41] <nextgens> as we will have many things in /tags
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[13:41] <nextgens> well, maybe we could create a /tags/old directory :|
[13:42] <danderson> what is the problem with a large tags/ dir?
[13:42] <danderson> nobody will ever be checking it out
[13:43] <danderson> at worst, ls will become a little tedious, though if release numbers increase monotonously, it'll be easy to find your way around
[13:46] <nextgens> ok, I'm going now ...
[13:46] <nextgens> Will be back on monday
[13:46] <nextgens> seeya
[13:53] <danderson> nextgens: if you need the net during the weekend
[13:53] <danderson> stop by :)
[13:53] <danderson> oh, damn
[13:53] <danderson> he left 5 minutes ago
[13:53] <danderson> :(
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[18:14] -alindeman- {Global Notice} Hi all. We are aware that some channels were cleared and are currently inaccessible. We are isolating a cause currently and are correcting cmodes on channels that were affected. If you are still having trouble joining an affected channel, let a freenode staffer ( /stats p ) know. Thank you.
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[18:39] -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're having issues with an attack. We're restoring a previous services backup. Please bear with us.
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[18:51] -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. As you are now aware, services are back up. This would be a good time to change your channel password if you can. Please check with first level support (/stats p) if you need help, and bear with us, as we might be a bit bogged down. Thank.
[18:55] -lilo- [Global Notice] This would be a good time to mention that freenode needs help with out 'freenode-registry' project, which would certainly help us avoid some compromises and recover more effectively. If you're interested in helping out, stop by #freenode-registry. I may have spotty availability for the next few hours or day, but will want to talk to you personally. Thanks.
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[18:59] -lilo- [Global Notice] (and by the way, that channel name is #freenode-registry without the dots, thanks!)
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[19:34] <rah> "The director of the new agency, whose identity will remain secret and is simply known as "Jose", will report directly to the head of the CIA, Porter Goss."
[19:35] <rah> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4340318.stm
[19:36] -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. Just to make sure everyone knows, we are reasonably-certain your passwords have not been compromised, but password changes are a very prudent precaution at this point. Thanks!
[19:41] -lilo- [Global Notice] Specifically, for your information, services passwords are hashed, and no direct access to our database files was involved in the attack. So any possible compromise would be in the form of changed passwords. Thank you!
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