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[5:09] <toad_> encryptio: :)
[5:09] <toad_> encryptio: does it work now?
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[7:16] <nextgens> hi
[7:17] <nextgens> about SCMs : what about svk ?
[7:17] <nextgens> (the distributed SCM based on subversion )
[7:18] <encryptio> toad_: ... mostly, yeah. =)
[7:18] * nextgens doesn't think that the distributed approach is the way to go and would be in favour of subversion
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[7:25] <toad_> nextgens: my understanding is that SCM seriously sucks
[7:25] <toad_> but I can see major advantages to something distributed
[7:26] <toad_> the basic one being that we want it to be as easy as possible for untrusted, anonymous third parties to contribute
[7:26] <toad_> preferably over freenet
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[7:26] <toad_> because they DO have a lot to offer, they just generally keep out of sight
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[7:26] <toad_> partly because the anonymous remailer network is looking distinctly suspicious nowadays...
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[7:26] <nextgens> ;)
[7:28] <nextgens> maybe submitting patches over a "maillinglist over freenet" would be enough ...
[7:28] <nextgens> as subversion is providing revisions number per branch, contrary to CVS
[7:28] <nextgens> wich is per file
[7:33] <toad_> it might, but it'd be better if they could maintain their own branches and we could merge when it looks good
[7:33] <toad_> a la git
[7:35] <toad_> with easy remote merging on their side so they can keep their branch up to date with the latest trunk changes
[7:35] <nextgens> well, I don't think it's a good point as for now, the main (only) commiter is you ...
[7:35] <toad_> ... and i want to change that!
[7:35] <nextgens> and therefore, using a distributed SCM will only add fuzz
[7:35] <nextgens> :)
[7:36] * nextgens is still working on his transport layer ...
[7:36] <nextgens> but it's far away from beeing usable
[7:37] * toad_ is looking forward to that
[7:37] <toad_> at one point we decided that pluggable transports were a post 1.0 issue
[7:37] <toad_> but it'd be nice to have TCP for 0.7
[7:37] <nextgens> I know ;)
[7:38] <toad_> and ideally some rendezvous transports
[7:39] <toad_> that's a confusing term... low bandwidth IP-address-independant transports
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[7:57] <joga> Hi. The "java freenet.node.Main --config" just hangs after printing "INFO: Optimized native BigInteger....." any idea?
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[9:23] <toad_> hi
[9:23] <toad_> joga: that's odd...
[9:24] <toad_> hi folks
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[9:30] <Sugadude> Hi toad-with-underline.
[9:30] <Sugadude> Have you been to Frost lately?
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[10:22] <toad_> Sugadude: anything in particular you want me to see?
[10:22] <Sugadude> toad_: I was just wondering if the Toad that showed up recenetly is really you.
[10:24] <toad_> heheheheheehehehehe
[10:25] * Sugadude looks puzzled.
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[10:35] <grumbel> how good or bad does freenet normally hold already downloaded data?
[10:36] <grumbel> ie. I am trying to downloading something with frost and am at 40%, now if I retry to download the same file again via the webinterface I restart at 2% and don't go up much faster then on the inital download
[10:38] <Sugadude> grumbel: How long ago did you start downloading the file through frost? How long ago did you start downloading through the webinterface?
[10:38] <Sugadude> Are you enabling "Get all blocks even if some failed" (?) in the webinterface download?
[10:38] <grumbel> frost download is running for three days, webinterface download started 10mins ago
[10:39] <grumbel> same issue is with freenet pages, while they sometimes come in faster when I already where there, they often do not (this is with editon based ones)
[10:39] <Sugadude> How big is the file? How big is the Freenet datastore?
[10:40] <Sugadude> How full is the datastore?
[10:40] <grumbel> datastore should be 50% full at the moment
[10:41] <Sugadude> Should or is?
[10:42] <grumbel> 'should' because I have no idea how to find out the correct value, just did 'du -sh' the freenet dir
[10:42] <Sugadude> Good enough.
[10:43] <grumbel> couldn't find a "Get all blocks even if some failed" in the webinterface
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[10:43] <Sugadude> toad_: Does Freenet still use probabilistic caching?
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[10:44] <Sugadude> grumbel: Well, the quick answer I'd give you is: Don't use the webinterface to download splitfiles. Fuqid/FuQT or Frost are much better.
[10:45] <Sugadude> But I feel something strange is happening here.
[10:45] <grumbel> ok
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[17:31] <dli> fiw doesn't run with sun-jre 1.5.0 ?
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[18:27] <toad_> it should
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